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Choose the ideal ONE or mocha DHT-PHEV? This is a technical topic| electric view

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Written by | Liu Jihao

On March 31st, although it rained a lot that day, I ran outside for a whole day, because a brother was planning to change cars, and the time was very "rushed", so we had to brave the rain to go shopping.

It is purely a coincidence to say that it is rushed. On the one hand, because the price of oil will rise again the next day, but more importantly, the two cars in the brother's alternative will have to spend more money the next day (one of the cars will increase in price, and the other car will expire in favor of the other), so. He wanted to take advantage of the last day to settle the order first and save some silver.

His car purchase budget is around 300,000, the requirements are relatively large, sometimes involving a family trip, the general compact car has not been satisfied, but also hope that the amount of oil exhaustion is low, after all, the price of oil is really high now. And the two alternatives he initially circled, one is the ideal ONE, the other is the WEY Mocha DHT-PHEV - although the technical routes are different, but in layman's terms, both cars are rechargeable oil cars, whether it is daily commuting or long-distance travel, there will be no anxiety.

Choose the ideal ONE or mocha DHT-PHEV? This is a technical topic| electric view
Choose the ideal ONE or mocha DHT-PHEV? This is a technical topic| electric view

In my "technical control" view, his two choices are quite realistic, and it can be seen that he has done some homework. So, who is better?

On power and fuel consumption

The ideal ONE is a bit like a fuel car

For the ideal ONE, there is no need to emphasize its configuration or space, because at the price of three hundred thousand, it is rare that you can buy such a high-tech C-class SUV, and the cumulative delivery of 31716 vehicles in the first quarter also shows that the market recognizes it today.

Choose the ideal ONE or mocha DHT-PHEV? This is a technical topic| electric view

"These 4 big screens are a bit broken," the friend said. After experiencing the rich intelligent driving assistance features of the ideal ONE, he said that he was "as excited as seeing the latest mobile phones".

My view is a little different, because although I am not exclusive to these so-called high-tech, I am not obsessed, yes, that is the icing on the cake; no, there is no impact, after all, the car is used to drive, their subjective feelings, the real evaluation of users, is decisive.

In terms of this experience, the overall achievement of the ideal ONE's power is not outstanding.

Choose the ideal ONE or mocha DHT-PHEV? This is a technical topic| electric view

Maybe you will retort that zero hundred acceleration is only 6 seconds 5, how high are you demanding power? Don't get me wrong, I said the power is not brilliant, not that it is slow, but because it is equipped with two drive motors - the same extended range hybrid, Huawei AITO asked the M5 dual motor version zero hundred acceleration fastest only 4.4 seconds, even if it is plug-in hybrid, the friend's alternative Mocha DHT-PHEV dual motor version only needs 4.8 seconds, all of which reflect the advantages of electric drive to the fullest, not to mention that the next two cars are cheaper.

Of course, this can only show that the motor used by the ideal ONE is a little weaker, not to mention, for the general family car, 6.5 seconds is enough, there is no need to be too true. But there is a detail to note, that is, the ejection mode must use the intervention of the engine to exert maximum power.

Choose the ideal ONE or mocha DHT-PHEV? This is a technical topic| electric view

As a range extender hybrid model, because its engine role is only charging, will not directly drive the wheels, so the power limit is the maximum power of the drive motor, the ideal ONE two motors add up to 245kW, as long as the power battery can match this data, the 245kW can be really output to the wheel. But the problem is here, even if the battery is sufficient, the ideal ONE catapult mode needs the engine to work at the same time, which means that the battery itself cannot meet the output limit of 245kW - some insiders have previously exposed the relevant insiders: the ideal ONE Car's 40.5kWh battery, the maximum discharge rate is 5.5C, can only provide the motor with a limit power output of 222.75kW, and the remaining 22.25kW needs to be superimposed after the engine generates electricity.

But then again, how many people usually use the so-called catapult mode? For the average user, you can think that its peak output is only 222.75kW, which is much better than the power in the lowest charge state.

Choose the ideal ONE or mocha DHT-PHEV? This is a technical topic| electric view

What really makes users tangled by this set of extended range power is fuel consumption. According to its official statement, in full oil and full power, the ideal ONE's NEDC comprehensive working condition cruising range reached 1080 kilometers, and the sales terminal was relatively honest, saying that "850 kilometers to 900 kilometers can be ensured", but is this really the case? We take the official nominal minimum state of charge of 8.8 liters / 100 km as a reference, its 55 liter fuel tank can provide a limit endurance of 625 km, plus the official claim of 188 km of pure electric endurance, that is only 813 km theoretical data.

The author has an ideal ONE friend around him, bought a few months ago, the current mileage of more than 8,000 kilometers, according to him, full of electricity and full of oil, drive to the power left 20%, oil lights on, the city can run up to 700 kilometers, if it is high-speed, according to the speed limit to 600 kilometers. "High-speed fuel, especially after the electricity is less than 70%, in order to save fuel, the electricity consumption is generally maintained, but the average fuel consumption of a long trip down 100 kilometers is also 9-9.5 liters."

Choose the ideal ONE or mocha DHT-PHEV? This is a technical topic| electric view

What is the difference between this power level and fuel consumption and the same level of fuel vehicles? For example, BMW X5, its 2.0T version of the maximum power of 195kW, zero hundred acceleration of 6.9 seconds, and the ideal ONE catapult mode is very close, the same speed limit standard, its 83 liter fuel tank can run 750-800 kilometers at high speed before the lights, the average fuel consumption of 100 kilometers is also more than 9 liters.

That is to say, the power and fuel consumption level of the ideal ONE is actually basically the same as that of the 2.0T medium and large fuel vehicles.

Mocha DHT-PHEV strength has

But it should not be aligned with the ideal ONE

Mocha DHT-PHEV is a new face, and even this is the first time I have actually tested it. As far as the sales are concerned, it looks slightly younger than the ideal ONE, not so stable, although the co-driver has less of a screen in front of it, but the main driver has more AR-HUD blessings, and the overall feeling of the two cars is actually between Bo Zhong, which is a more powerful sense of technology.

Choose the ideal ONE or mocha DHT-PHEV? This is a technical topic| electric view

But our focus is also on the most core powertrain, unlike the ideal ONE, the Mocha DHT-PHEV is a plug-in hybrid route, the difference is that the engine can directly drive the wheels.

Test drive is a four-wheel drive version of the dual motor, as mentioned earlier, it only takes 4.8 seconds to accelerate zero hundred, and the feeling of pushing you on the back of the chair and pushing it away is really not something that ordinary people can control. Therefore, the two-wheel drive version with a cheap price of 20,000 pieces is a more rational option, not to mention, the two-wheel drive version of zero hundred acceleration is only 7.4 seconds, only 0.9 seconds slower than the ideal ONE, but the pure electric endurance is longer, the theoretical number is 204 kilometers, 16 kilometers more than the ideal ONE.

Choose the ideal ONE or mocha DHT-PHEV? This is a technical topic| electric view

It should be noted that the pure electric mileage of mocha DHT-PHEV is closer to the WLC standard of the real car scene, and it is less moisture than the NEDC standard of the ideal ONE.

In addition, the motor power of the MOCHA DHT-PHEV two-wheel drive version is only 130kW, the peak torque is 300Nm, which seems to catch up with the ideal ONE's dual motor is a big difference, but because it is plug-in hybrid, the engine can directly participate in the power output, and the total power and total torque of the system are slightly higher than the ideal ONE. However, at the time of pure electric output, because the MOCHA DHT-PHEV two-wheel drive version has only one motor in the drive, the overall acceleration process is slightly slower than the ideal ONE (mainly reflected in the starting and initial stages, and the mid-section engine is different after the intervention).

Another point to note is that the Mocha DHT-PHEV takes the plug-in hybrid route, its high-speed cruise is the direct output of the engine, this working condition is exactly the efficient range of the engine, but it is the inefficient range of the motor, so it has more advantages than the ideal ONE in energy consumption indicators. Even at its lowest charge, the Mocha DHT-PHEV consumes only 5.55 litres/100 km (2WD) and 6.3 L/100 km (4WD), and is still WLTC standard.

Of course, most of the car owners' daily fuel consumption will be higher than this number, the two-wheel drive version is roughly 6-6.5 liters, and the four-wheel drive version is 7-7.5 liters. But even so, the same is 55 liters of fuel tank, full of oil and electricity, the same dry until the oil lamp is on, the battery power is 20%, mocha DHT-PHEV two-wheel drive version of a tank of oil can actually run 900-950 kilometers, and the manufacturer advertised a tank of oil 1,000 kilometers is closer, more reliable than the ideal ONE.

Therefore, in terms of technical performance, the author takes a high look at the MOCHA DHT-PHEV. Of course, because this car has just been on the market, its quality and durability have yet to be discovered by more users in the process of using the car.

However, although the author is more inclined to mocha DHT-PHEV, but its price is not quite agreeable, the reason is very simple, it is a B-class SUV, the price of the four-wheel drive version is close to the ideal ONE positioning C-class car, which is not in line with the brand's market position, after all, Mocha's 2.0T fuel vehicle also sells for about 200,000 yuan.

Objectively speaking, the Mocha DHT-PHEV should refer to the AITU S5 of the same B-class SUV - although it is also a range extender hybrid SUV, but it is also a 1.5T engine, the same is a 40 kWh battery, the latter has huawei's blessing, in the case of little difference in configuration, its entry-level two-wheel drive model is less than 250,000, nearly 50,000 yuan cheaper than the Moka DHT-PHEV two-wheel drive version.

『 Final Remarks 』

After this day, my friend finally failed to make a final decision, because my suggestion was to let him look again, because whether it is a mix or a range increase route, more and more manufacturers will launch new models, do not be led by the short-term price adjustment of the manufacturer.

In addition, although the power and fuel consumption performance of the ideal ONE are not good enough, for ordinary families, as long as they charge more, to ensure that the daily electricity is sufficient, the daily transportation is basically used as an electric car, after all, the average person can not run several long distances a year, and it takes several months to fill a tank of oil.

Finally, the author also wants to emphasize that we cannot deny the entire range extender route because the ideal ONE's extended range system is not performing well, because the specific product performance is closely related to the manufacturer's cost decision, and the author also believes that after a few years of ideal ONE replacement, this range extended range system should undergo qualitative changes.

As for the MOCHA DHT-PHEV, it has shown its strength that is different from the traditional plug-in and hybrid models, both the power and the level of endurance are eye-catching, and the rest is the test of its product strength by time, and the test of its cost performance by the market.

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