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Is there a big difference between domestic hybrids and Japanese hybrids? 丨 Brother Mo Mo answered

Is there a big difference between domestic hybrids and Japanese hybrids? 丨 Brother Mo Mo answered

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Q1 : Now that the domestic hybrid has stood up, is it still necessary to buy the hybrids of Honda and Toyota? Is there a big difference between domestic hybrids and Japanese hybrids? | 01:08-05:35

Q2: There are so many Chinese people who buy Tesla now, if at this time through the promotion of patriotic education to call everyone to buy domestic electric vehicles, will it play a positive role in the development of domestic electric vehicles |? 05:36-07:35

Q3: Lantu and Denza are all laying out pure electric MPV, Ande Yin thinks that MPV is suitable for pure electric |? 07:36-09:00

Q4: If the purchase tax of new energy vehicles is not exempted in 2023, and the price of the car is 20,000 or 30,000 yuan, will it have any adverse impact on | the new energy industry? 09:01-10:34

Q5: Is there any point in plugging in the DC port of the mixed car |? 10:35-12:49

Q1: Now that the domestic hybrid has stood up, is it still necessary to buy the hybrids of Honda and Toyota? Is there a big difference between domestic hybrids and Japanese hybrids?

Is there a big difference between domestic hybrids and Japanese hybrids? 丨 Brother Mo Mo answered

Domestic hybrid, to the great wall DHT and DM-i, from the smoothness of the complete loss, fuel consumption is basically flat about the same level; acceleration and power is stronger, mainly Qin PLUS DM-i than 1.8 THS and 1.5 i-MMD is a crushing advantage, but the same powertrain song PLUS, facing 2.5 THS and 2.0 i-MMD, although the acceleration has advantages, but not so big, 1.5T DHT in the middle and back section is theoretically stronger.

The real domestic hybrid is strong in two points, one is noise control, especially BYD's, 3500 rpm 120km/h cruise can hardly hear the engine sound, it is simply terrible, the overtaking acceleration action with high load, the noise suppression is also significantly stronger than the Shuangtian hybrid (and because the battery is large, many times the Shuangtian wants the engine to intervene at high speed, dm-i this side is not in a hurry to pull the high speed), the second point is the advantage of the convenience of the PHEV policy charging, the domestic hybrid desperately presses the price, Japanese batteries of about 18 degrees Celsius are sold at least 50% higher. Other details, such as PHEV's DC fast charging capacity, external discharge capability, fuel tank volume, etc., the Japanese generation of models are also short boards, at least within 3 years these problems are difficult to solve, until the next generation of models have hope.

There are also problems before the domestic hybrid, mainly in the calibration experience, such as BYD's engine start jitter, forced power preservation logic, the earliest test version of the Great Wall DHT is too focused on efficiency and power to cause bad feelings, etc., but in theory can get enough feedback and data after OTA repair.

Q2: There are so many Chinese people who buy Tesla now, if at this time through the promotion of patriotic education to call everyone to buy domestic electric vehicles, will it play a positive role in the development of domestic electric vehicles?

Is there a big difference between domestic hybrids and Japanese hybrids? 丨 Brother Mo Mo answered

Pick up a question, buying a car is very expensive and accounts for the indicator, after all, it is a very troublesome thing, I think as long as the economic and political situation of the society is not chaotic to the point of needing to close the country, after experiencing the previous Nanjing boycott of Japanese goods, everyone should understand that it is useless to expect patriotic education to call for domestic production, and the product itself is good enough.

My family has basically changed from the former BBA to pure domestic production, tank 300, Song PLUS DM-i, and a planned ET5 (it is estimated that this thing will be a little more controversial), none of which was bought because of patriotism, all of which are concerned about the product itself. Tesla's strongest place at present is the cost control and profit margin of mass production, with a strong brand image and just a good price positioning, it is true that domestic cars want to encroach on its sales is not easy, but at present, it is still difficult for Japanese-European electrics to compete with domestic products, so there is still an opportunity, take it slowly.

Q3: Lantu and Denza are all laying out pure electric MPV, does Brother Yinge think that MPV is suitable for pure electric?

Is there a big difference between domestic hybrids and Japanese hybrids? 丨 Brother Mo Mo answered

The main problem of pure electric MPV at present is: the body structure and weight are very large, which means that a larger battery is needed; but the thickness space occupied by the battery with a larger capacity especially affects the height and vertical space of the MPV (SUVs and cars are slightly worse, but the impact on the MPV is very large), and it is necessary to use a very thin battery with high energy density, and the cost goes up at once. Therefore, the initial pure electricity or extended range MPV will be positioned relatively high-end and more expensive, which will definitely affect user acceptance.

Q4: If the purchase tax of new energy vehicles is not exempted in 2023, will the price of the car be 20,000 or 30,000 yuan, will it have any adverse impact on the new energy industry?

Is there a big difference between domestic hybrids and Japanese hybrids? 丨 Brother Mo Mo answered

Electric vehicles because of license plate policy and other reasons, the purchase may still have to buy; a major advantage of PHEV will be reduced, but with such a year or two of development time, we gradually see the new generation of PHEV in the use of other advantages in the cost of use, it is also possible to maintain a good sales.

Q5: Regarding the DC port of the mixed car, is it meaningful?

Is there a big difference between domestic hybrids and Japanese hybrids? 丨 Brother Mo Mo answered

Personally, I think it still makes sense. Like Song PLUS DM-i, I use eviction mode power consumption can be controlled at about 13kWh/100km, according to the more expensive national grid pile 1.66 yuan a degree to calculate, it is 2 cents 1 km, pure oil is about 5L/100km, the current oil price is 4 cents faster than 5 cents, the gap is still quite obvious.

In fact, the DC port charging speed is not fast, only 15kW, but the problem is that like Beijing, it is too difficult to find AC piles outside. Go to the mall, the shopping mall or something, just charge an hour and a half basically from 25% to more than 80%, does not affect the travel habits and can indeed save some money...

Well, this issue of Yin Ge Mo Mo answered to this end, welcome to continue to ask questions in the WeChat comment area! We'll see you next time, bye-bye!

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