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Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?

(The electric vehicle market is gradually strengthening, more and more people are buying electric vehicles, and the topic of who saves money on electric vehicles and fuel vehicles is also constantly debated.) Based on this, EV Car Life and Used Car Xiao Fat jointly launched a new column based on the comprehensive calculation of daily car cost + second-hand car use depreciation cost to calculate the real cost of vehicle use. )

In the last issue, we calculated the real comprehensive cost of electric vehicles and fuel vehicles, and chose the BMW 3 Series and Tesla Model 3. After comparing the cost of the car with the cost of vehicle loss, it is found that the BMW 3 Series is more economical.

Which ever thought, was supported by Tesla people a spray, said BMW recharged! (If you want to see the content, you can look at the previous issue of the article) In this regard, we also replied to some controversies that netizens commented more at the end of this issue.

In this issue, in order to no longer have electric vehicle owners say recharge, we chose two SUVs that are also saichiro-Volkswagen, ID.4 X and Tiguan L.

Although the positioning of the two cars is slightly different, the price is very close. The price of the 2022 ID.4 X subsidy is 205,288,880 yuan-278,288 yuan, and the guiding price of Tiguan L is 215,800-281,800 yuan.

This time, let's use these two models of the same brand to see more than 200,000 electric vehicles and fuel vehicles, who can save you more money!

Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?

Comparing the standard, we still continue to use 3 years and 60,000 kilometers as the standard for conventional vehicles (standardized and equivalent use status comparison).

Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?

The cost of daily use of the car, ID.4 X big advantage wins!

Let's first talk about the very intuitive cost of using a car, which is also to continue to pay money after buying a car.

As a fuel vehicle, Tiguan L, in this part, compared to ID.4 X will have a relatively strong disadvantage, as for how much the cost difference, let's analyze it in detail.

Let's start with the Tiguan L, and let's take the best-selling 330TSI two-wheel drive model as an example:

Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?
Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?

Tiguan L first insurance is 5000 kilometers, and the first insurance is free, and after the first insurance, it is maintained every 10,000 kilometers. In the normal and good use process of 60,000 kilometers in 3 years, the minimum maintenance price required for Tiguan L is 6629 yuan, and the small maintenance price is 941 yuan.

In terms of premiums, taking the 330TSI automatic two-wheel drive enjoyment version priced at 215,800 yuan (the terminal price has preferential treatment) as an example, in the case of 1 million yuan for the three, commercial insurance is about 4720 yuan, compulsory traffic insurance is 950 yuan, the total premium is about 5670 yuan, and the total cost for 3 years is about 14175 yuan (in the case of no insurance, the next year is calculated by 20% discount, and the third year is calculated by 30% discount).

In terms of fuel consumption, the car NEDC fuel consumption is 6.6L/100km, the average fuel consumption of the owner's reputation is 9.5L/100km, and it needs to add 95 gasoline, in the medium-sized SUV, the fuel consumption is at a medium level. Taking the Beijing oil price on the writing date as an example, the No. 95 gasoline is 9.21 yuan / liter, and the fuel cost of 60,000 kilometers in 3 years calculated by the owner's reputation is about 52497 yuan, and the average annual fuel cost is about 17499 yuan.

Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?

Taken together, the cost of 60,000 kilometers in 3 years of Tiguan L is about 73,301 yuan, the average annual cost is about 24,434 yuan, and the average kilometer is about 1.22 yuan. Next, let's take a look at how much the electric SUV, id.4 X, which is also SAIC Volkswagen, can reach in terms of car cost?

The following is the cost of the ID.4 X car:

Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?
Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?

The ID.4 X has the same maintenance cycle as Tiguan L and is also free of charge. Compared with Tiguan L, it also reduces the cost of oil, machine filter, air filter, spark plug, etc., and only needs to spend money on routine inspection and air conditioning filter. However, the 351 yuan one-time inspection fee is somewhat expensive, combined down, ID. The maintenance cost of 4 X 3 years and 60,000 kilometers is 2915 yuan, which is less than half of tiguan L.

In terms of insurance price, we chose the pure long-endurance version priced at 205,288 yuan to calculate, which is close to the landing price of the Tiguan L 330TSI automatic two-wheel drive comfort version. In the case of 1 million yuan for the three, the commercial insurance premium is about 5328 yuan, the compulsory traffic insurance is 950 yuan, the total premium is about 6278 yuan, and the total cost for 3 years is about 15695 yuan (in the case of no insurance, the next year is calculated by 20% discount, and the third year is calculated by 30%).

In terms of energy consumption, the last time the Model 3 calculation method we used the scene calculation of supercharge and slow charging 50:50, but because ID.4 X is more inclined to the attributes of home use, and collects the actual scene of most netizen cars, we decided to calculate this part of the cost of slow charging and fast charging 80:20 scenarios.

The official comprehensive energy consumption of the pure long-endurance version is 14kWh/100km, and the actual energy consumption of the owner's reputation is 17.1kWh/100km. The slow charging fee is still taking Beijing as an example, which is 0.4883 yuan / kWh; fast charging is calculated by the most expensive time period of the State Grid, which is 1.8 yuan / kWh, and more than 60% of the State Grid charging stations are free, so they are not included in the charging parking fee.

Through the calculation of the owner's word-of-mouth power consumption, it can be seen that ID.4 X spends about 4008 yuan on slow charging, about 3694 yuan on fast charging, and about 7702 yuan on comprehensive charging, with an average annual charging cost of about 2567 yuan. Compared with the fuel cost of Tiguan L of nearly 18,000 yuan a year, the charging cost of ID.4 X is only 1/7 of that of Tiguan L.

Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?

The cost of ID.4 X for 60,000 kilometers in 3 years is about 26312 yuan, an average of about 8771 yuan per year, and an average of about 0.44 yuan per kilometer.

In contrast, the three-year car cost of ID.4 X of 26312 yuan has a great advantage over the 73301 yuan of Tiguan L, which is less than half the price, and can save more than 40,000 daily car costs in three years.

Next, let's look at the advantages of the Fuel Vehicle of Tiguan L - the depreciation cost of used cars is calculated by subtracting the price of the vehicle sold by the user.

3 years 60,000 kilometers of used car damage, Tiguan L advantage is obvious!

In view of the loss of the two cars, our old friend and authoritative expert in used cars - used car Xiao Fat also gave an in-depth analysis.

Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?

Used car xiao fat said: Tiguan L, the residual value of used cars has been stabilized, and the performance is not as good as before!

Volkswagen Tiguan L as Volkswagen's earliest SUV model, adhering to Volkswagen's consistent brand impression, in the second-hand car market still has a certain amount of influence, after all, from 1988 Shanghai Volkswagen Santana so far, Volkswagen's second-hand car is being "disliked" by young users in first-tier cities, but 2, 3, 4-tier cities, Volkswagen's second-hand car reputation is still good, 3-5 years or so of retention rate considering the real retention rate after the new car discount is still OK, if you use MSRP comparison, it is a bit of a stretch.

Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?

After 5 years and 100,000 kilometers, 8 years after 160,000 kilometers, because the maintenance costs of German cars may be geometric growth, so the change also exists, but in our comparison with the data of 3 years and 60,000 kilometers, although the retention rate of Tiguan L is not as good as before, and the same level of Honda CRV, Toyota RAV4 There is a certain gap, but the gap is not large, compared with electric vehicles or advantages.

At present, the preferential price of the new car terminal is more than 30,000, the highest discount in history is more than 38,000 yuan, at present, we are calculated according to a reasonable 32,000 discounts, of course, if you consider the replacement subsidy and other factors, there may be more discounts, long-term expectations, up to about 10,000 yuan of new car concessions may be possible, but this calculation is not counted for the time being.

Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?

At present, Tiguan and Tiguan L used car in the national used car market is a relatively stable "best-selling model", although not amazing but very stable, the overall value preservation performance of the medium level, the profit of second-hand car merchants is also to take the "small profits, high sales" strategy, so the price difference between the retail price of used cars and the purchase price is actually about 10,000 yuan, or even lower, low income and high selling is difficult to achieve.

Comprehensive calculation, 3 years and 60,000 kilometers, the purchase price of second-hand cars according to the current market should be about 118,700 yuan, compared with the current tax-paid price depreciation should be about 82,700 yuan, and the depreciation loss per kilometer is 1.38 yuan.

If this is compared with the Tiguan in that year, the retention rate has fallen to the bottom, the public is no longer the former Volkswagen, and the Tiguan has lengthened the L and has not been able to save the decline.

ID.4 X, service network advantages and big customer strategy impact!

Compared with the creation of new forces, the traditional gasoline car manufacturers may react a little slowly, after all, the "elephant turn" still needs time, especially in the case of vested interests, it is not easy to change these decades, hundreds of years of "old guys". But once you decide to do it well, especially the Ashkenazi brands, plus time, and then consider the previous layout and related, these brands of electric vehicles still have a lot to look forward to.

At least the mileage "water content" is not so high, and it is not very good at playing the "lock power" set, the most important thing is the battery explosion, brake failure, the traditional brand is still not dare to "innovate", more conservative.

Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?

For the current ID.4 X, its residual value after 3 years and 60,000 kilometers, there is certainly no ready-made data, but we have comprehensively considered the current 1-3 years of Volkswagen ID.6, Audi e-tron, these "same family" performance, combined with historical performance and industry experience for residual value prediction analysis, of course, there must be some people commenting on various BB, it doesn't matter if you think you can convince me professionally, I send you a car model, welcome to discuss.

First of all, a problem, the current Volkswagen ID. series, in Europe ID.3 series performance is not worse than Tesla Model 3, and even has a catch-up trend, these future will also affect the changes in the domestic electric vehicle market, we have to take as a certain consideration factor, to look at the long term.

Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?

Another phenomenon, the current second-hand car market has a lot of 2 years, thousands of kilometers, hundreds of kilometers, or even tens of kilometers of volkswagen ID.6 series or 4 series, these cars are either 4S shop test drive and other channels down, take advantage of the loss of less, hurry to sell, or is a large customer policy such as the leasing company what is quickly eliminated within half a year, after all, the rental of the head of the electric car loses money faster!

205,000 yuan landed ID.4 X minimum with the current data and forecasts, 3 years and 60,000 kilometers after the actual retail sales of the second-hand car market is about 90,000 yuan less than 100,000 yuan, but this is the retail price, The purchase price of second-hand cars will not exceed 75,000 yuan, after all, considering a series of uncertain factors such as the turnover rate, risk, battery cost and so on of these cars, so the actual loss of this used car after 60,000 kilometers in 3 years is about 129,600 yuan, and the loss is not small, but compared with electric vehicles, it is also said that in the past, it is equivalent to a loss of 2.16 yuan per kilometer.

Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?

However, this data may have great variables in the future, and we will give a special account here.

If the price of this car is reduced by the new car, the annual replacement will affect the residual value of the second-hand car, and the probability is relatively large.

At present, volkswagen's ID. series is not good for ordinary users to retail, there are a large number of leasing companies to buy large customers, these customers often 7-8 discount to buy, and then about 3 years of large-scale market "selling" affect the price of these second-hand cars is very obvious, which is also a lot of traditional car manufacturers selling vehicles regardless of the front and after "may cause problems."

Manufacturers of second-hand car residual value management, if the public allows these electric vehicles to "free market transactions", and does not strengthen the actual real service capabilities of the second-hand cars of the 4S store of the Volkswagen system itself, it will lead to the residual value of electric second-hand cars Is difficult to have a good performance.

More than 200,000 SUVs, choose fuel or pure electric?

Finally, we use the cost of the car and the discount price of the vehicle to comprehensively calculate the actual cost of the next two cars in 3 years and 60,000 kilometers.

Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?

Didn't expect that? Didn't expect that? Didn't expect that?

Shanghai Volkswagen Tiguan L and ID.4 X two models of 3 years and 60,000 kilometers of comprehensive use of the cost of the "brothers" calculation, it is extremely close, it is a draw!

Most people think that it will be like the last Tesla Model 3 defeat bmw 3 series of one-sided results, but it is not.

The difference in performance and price of used cars at different stages reflects the comprehensive ability of a brand and a car as a whole from marketing, products, ideas, management, channels, accessories, services, word of mouth, etc. The so-called road remote horsepower, long-term people's hearts, many successful brands and successful people know a truth, want to speed is not reached, some things although slow but never retreat.

A good car is like a reliable good person, it takes time and really to do things for people to know.

Tiguan L is like a big brother who was once very good but middle-aged, with a flat salary to support his family, but his character is not bad, his friends' reputation is OK, and he lives a down-to-earth life.

ID.4 X is like the little brother of the new generation of Tiguan L, dressed more fashionable, Rap what the feeling is a bit drifting, but after all, family education and environmental background, will not be too flickering, will not do too many things out of the circle, slowly grow up, or suitable for "being a husband" one of the reliable electric vehicles.

However, when you buy a car, you still have to polish your eyes, in this era of oil prices of 9 yuan, the actual comprehensive cost of fuel vehicles and electric vehicles will always be alternating compared to electric vehicles, and the first two phases have seen the clues. If you want to continue to see the real combined cost of different models, remember to keep an eye on us!

Here we also make a preview, the next issue will compare 4 different energy forms of SUVs. Stay tuned for the next issue and feel free to request it!

Next, we answer some of the more controversial netizen questions about the last BMW 3 Series compared to Tesla Model 3:

Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?

Answer: The probability of oil vehicles is not valuable, look at the current retention rate, look at the hybrid retention rate, the trend with the increase in ownership, the new energy retention rate will theoretically increase, but only the theory, Tesla according to the early performance of Model S calculation, when the overall future ownership of electric vehicles to 40% of the fuel vehicle may be the overall retention rate increase, not all people have charging piles and parking spaces, not all people live in the warm south.

Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?

Answer: Tesla's current internet celebrity effect, speculation is greater than the actual, with changes and cognition, as well as the promotion of independent brands, Tesla retention rate will not always be so evil, three years is a threshold, look at Tesla's Model S and X to know, the hype will only be red for a while will not always be red!

Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?

Reply:

For premiums, many people will use some car vertical APP to calculate, but those are calculated according to the price of the vehicle, just the reference price. Tesla Model 3 ushered in three price increases this year, and at the same time, the price increase will also increase, because the invoice price of the car will be higher, which is one of them. Second, according to the calculation of the Model 3 by the China Insurance Research Institute, the price has been raised not long ago, because the body material, battery cost, accident rate, etc., so the premium is higher than other cars. At the same time, we only calculate the official quotation of the insurance company, and do not take into account the preferential discounts such as rebates, because this part will be adjusted at any time with the renewal time of each car, and the recent insurance policy, so it does not represent the norm.

For the charging calculation, slow charging we choose the Beijing area electricity bill, only divided into one section, two sections, and there is no peak valley; secondly, the ordinary fast charging pile provides peak and valley, but Tesla overcharge is also the same price. In fact, there will be some differences in the price of overcharge around the world, we chose to compare the eclectic price to calculate, so that the calculated data is closer to everyone's car data, ten thousand years do not use fast charging piles and there are no slow charging piles at home Two types of people are there, so can not be partial covered, or to take into account the car use scenario of everyone compromise.

Brother "cannibalism", 200,000 budget, choose ID.4 X or Tiguan L? Who saves more money?

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