【Text/Observer Network Feng Zhiyuan】
Recently, with the disclosure by the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the audit document that "Chinese intellectuals received funding from the Japanese side", Jiang Fangzhou and others who appeared on the list were pushed to the "cusp" of public opinion for a while.
Today (8th), another netizen posted that Jiang Fangzhou appeared in a Japanese documentary broadcast in July last year, talking about the "system" and other issues in the era of the epidemic, and the interview clip quickly attracted the attention of netizens.
Subsequently, Jiang Fangzhou was interviewed by the Observer Network. She said that the Japanese media did not present the interview in its entirety. The interview lasted about 40 minutes to an hour, and she talked about her life during the epidemic, her creation, donations to her hometown, and China's effective control of the epidemic prevention process, including the use of health codes and a series of technical means. But the show only intercepted a short segment.
(Screenshot of NHK documentary)
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In the program, NHK first "recalled" the scene when he went to Jiang Fangzhou's house to visit in March 2019.
"Citizens are 'labeled' and strictly regulated..." The Japanese narrator first described Jiang Fangzhou's virtual society, but she immediately explained that "this is an elevated stage, and I did not explicitly say that it is China."
The Japanese narrator put it bluntly, "To Chiang's shock, in an increasingly controlled society, people are too simply submissive."
The camera then shifts back to 2020 under the epidemic.
In the interview, Jiang Fangzhou said at the beginning, "You see, people are also very quick to adapt to being classified. If you put it last year (2019), you might have a hard time imagining it. Now everyone seems to have accepted it."
Regarding the "classification" mentioned here, Jiang Fangzhou once introduced in an interview in 19 years: in her novel, "everyone will have points, look at the points to determine the area where you live, as well as wealth, performance, such as running a red light and so on." She said, "This is actually a way that many societies are discussing now."
The Japanese reporter who spoke to her did not seem to agree with her attitude, saying in Chinese: "After the outbreak of the epidemic, we all found that for the safety of many people, it is more effective to force strong words."
Jiang Fangzhou quickly took over the conversation, "But... But I think it would be a very dangerous idea to give this kind of answer so flippantly."
Originally, we were talking about the management of personnel under the anti-epidemic situation, but Jiang Fangzhou changed his words and took the initiative to elevate the topic to the level of "political system".
"Because human history has been thinking and arguing about 'what kind of political system is the best', it's a very, very long process. Using an extraordinary period (referring to the epidemic) state to judge which (system) is good and which is not good, this kind of arbitrariness of thinking itself is a very dangerous thing."
Immediately, the interview screen came to an abrupt end.
Seeing this scene, many Chinese netizens expressed different opinions. "In the face of the life-and-death test of the epidemic, Chinese gave the perfect answer, but she had to find a way to prove that There is a problem with China's system."
Others believe that Jiang Fangzhou "didn't say anything, but he also said everything."
But others felt that she said "no problem".
"Is it bad in this video that China is not good... Isn't it very objective, such as 'whether a system is good or not is a problem that human beings have been exploring, and it would be a bit arbitrary to say the conclusion directly'... What's the problem..."
Some netizens also retorted under this comment that "the reporter uses 'coercion', which means that the people are opposed to the government, but as long as a normal person understands that isolation and epidemic prevention is a measure generally recognized by the whole society, the result is that Jiang directly attributed this to the system..."
In fact, in front of Jiang Fangzhou's interview clip, Japanese reporters also interviewed several young Chinese women, who not only bluntly said that China had some problems caused by insufficient preparation in the early stage of the fight against the epidemic, but also actively affirmed China's achievements in fighting the epidemic.
"Everyone is more patriotic than before, and their trust in the Chinese government has also increased", "After controlling the epidemic, Chinese are more supportive of the motherland." After hearing the interviewee say this, the Japanese reporter also showed a slightly relieved expression.
At this time, Jiang Fangzhou, who was called a "young opinion leader" by the narrator (若きオピニオンリーダー), appeared as an "introduction" that led to the "impact of strong control on individuals".
After Jiang Fangzhou's interview footage, the documentary uses an apparently "carefully selected" image (pictured below) to begin to talk about the "impact of China's strict control on individuals under the epidemic"...
Jiang Fangzhou: The expression was taken out of context by the Japanese media
In response to this program, Jiang Fangzhou was interviewed by the Observer Network, and she said that the Japanese media did not fully present the interview content. The interview lasted about 40 minutes to an hour, and she talked about her life during the epidemic, her creation, donations to her hometown, and China's effective control of the epidemic prevention process, including the use of health codes and a series of technical means. But the show only intercepted a short segment.
In addition, in the interview, the host tried to guide her to talk about the advantages and disadvantages of China's system, and used words such as "authoritarian" and "coercive means". In this regard, she first denied this premise, and believed that it was not objective and arbitrary to define it as "authoritarian" in an extraordinary state, and then in the interview there were statements such as "this kind of arbitrariness of thinking is dangerous".
Jiang Fangzhou also said that during the epidemic period, the focus of her life and work is to cooperate with the fight against the epidemic, in addition to donating money and materials, she also wrote a handwritten letter to encourage wuhan students to feel at ease with the college entrance examination. In the future, she will continue to work on this.
"Network V is funded by the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs" has attracted heated discussion
Jiang Fangzhou, the "protagonist" of this article, recently followed the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs' disclosure of the audit document "Chinese intellectuals received funding from the Japanese side", and the scholar He Bing and the writer Xiong Peiyun on the same list have become the focus of public opinion.
Some netizens criticized this kind of "taking money to do things", and Hu Xijin, editor-in-chief of the Global Times, also posted an article on the afternoon of the 7th, saying that "it is a common practice of international exchanges to invite various people from other countries to travel and study in their own countries at the expense of a country, and it is not possible to accuse or strictly characterize them because some people in China have participated in exchange activities funded by Western countries."
However, Hu Xijin also said that with the intensification of the confrontation between the United States and China and the increase of ideological conflicts between China and the West, the above-mentioned exchanges between China and the West are decreasing sharply, and the mutual prevention of each other's "infiltration" through international exchanges has never been improved. In the current environment, to carry out international exchanges, we must face the deepening of the ideological gap between China and the West, cross various complexities, and explore ways to constructively expand such exchanges. Patriotism is the nature of the vast majority of people, and as for some people being questioned about patriotism, they need to conduct their own personal reflection, rather than closing a certain door to China's opening up to the outside world.
In the face of controversy, Jiang Fangzhou Responded via a picture on Weibo that "this exchange (to Japan) is an open and normal cultural exchange, and hereby declares."
Today (8th), she responded again, saying that "Japan has committed crimes in World War II and has not apologized so far, which is unforgivable and beyond doubt." She also clarified that any additional costs other than living research expenses were confiscated during the day.
Jiang Fangzhou finally said that during the exchange in Japan, I also saw a complex aspect of society, and observed the social problems of Japan's old and young children, the lack of vitality and even psychological distortion of Japanese young people, and the objectification and suppression of women in Japanese society, which were recorded in the book.
"I respect the netizens who speak out for the country, I believe that misunderstandings will always pass, and I sincerely wish the motherland and hope that the country will get better and better."
Jiang Fangzhou's Weibo responded to public opinion
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