The dialogue between Japanese feminist professor Chizuko Ueno and the UP master, planned by Station B, has attracted strong controversy, and here is a brief comb.
Peking University dormitory chat vs Chizuko Ueno
The first thing to start was Chizuko Ueno and UP "Quan Hee-hee", a conversation between three girls who graduated from Peking University, and the video was posted on February 17 with the title "Peking University Dormitory Chat x Chizuko Ueno | As long as you live freely, you can do anything." ”
As a result, the video flipped a lot of cars, and it attracted a lot of scolding because of the improper questioning.
The 27-minute video is divided into 12 sub-dots, and questions such as "why not get married", "feminist contempt chains", "love brain, relationship with men", "sons and daughters-in-law" and other issues are mentioned.
The most serious rollover point is the first question: "Have you been hurt by a man if you don't get married?" ”
This question is indeed inappropriate and a little offensive, and a closer look at the status of the 3 UP masters shows that they are all married, and two of them have children. In this case, asking this kind of question to Chizuko Ueno gives a bad impression that married women express a sense of superiority over unmarried women.
After watching the conversation, some netizens said that they "felt very disappointed, and then very humiliated", and some directly scolded: "The whole process is asking feminism whether to get married, have children and fall in love, and the topic is completely inseparable from men, as if they have to force Ueno Sensei to admit that their married life is very happy, and it is very suffocating to watch." ”
As far as the video is concerned, the question of "Quan Xi Hee" is indeed not smart, resulting in a show that it is not like a deep discussion of women's rights, but more like seeking recognition from the outside world, in order to prove that marriage is the mainstream, and not marriage is strange.
This may also be because of her own cognition and limitations, which led her to fall into self-doubt and repeated self-evidence.
In fact, some people's cognition of feminism is biased, or they are confused, and they have not really understood and have gone into the wrong area, and some people even think that not marrying or having children, and not being associated with men is the real feminism.
I have seen girls who come into contact with feminism and in turn suffer because they cannot control their closeness to the opposite sex, and feel that only if they do not have illusions about men, can they be considered real women's rights.
But in fact, women's rights are not meant to be completely separated from men, let alone suppress their desires. As Mr. Ueno said, feminism is freedom, equality, freedom to be yourself, whether you choose not to marry and have children, or to marry and have children, as long as you maintain yourself and have a rich heart.
That extremely misogynistic feminism is not really feminism, feminism is a kind of liberalism, you have the right to make any choice and the right to understand that you are a free and independent individual.
Speaking of "full hee-hee", it is not strange to be washed, but its practicality is not how bad it is. They give me the feeling of being more like feminists who grew up in a secular framework and are engulfed in a secular framework, they are still in contradictions and swings, in the predicament that women face today, so that they show that state of screwing.
The conversation with Chizuko Ueno is like asking a question to a mature elder, and Chizuko Ueno's answer is indeed gentle and powerful, which is very inspiring.
Otoko Lord vs Chikako Ueno
Although the video of "All Hee Hee" overturned, it triggered a very hot discussion, whether it was scolding or praise, in short, the traffic was there.
After the end of this wave, on February 20, there was another dialogue video, which was a dialogue between Chizuko Ueno and the male UP protagonist "Jianghu Lifting People", including patriarchy, stigmatization of feminism, flattery, feminist men, etc., the whole video is 31 minutes, rich in content, in-depth dialogue, and the level is immediately apparent under the comparison between the two.
The evaluation of these two videos is almost completely opposite, the previous video was ridiculed by the whole network, and the question of "raising people in the rivers and lakes" was more recognized.
Scroll down to the comment area of "Jianghu Lifting People", you can see that the first hot comment is "This is the interview, around the interviewee and the book itself", and "When I meet readers who really understand, it is obvious that Chizuko Ueno is very happy when talking to people." ”
An interview around feminism, with three women talking to them asking absurd and low-quality questions, and men digging deeper into the high-quality questions. Such an obvious woman and a man, one suppressed and one raised, instantly triggered new discussions.
Why is it that women, when discussing feminism, are not as deep and thoughtful as men?
This problem, some people began to suspect that it is a carefully planned traffic behavior that belittles women and men.
Planning deliberate arrangement?
Someone came out on Weibo to explain that the "personal world of the big beauty" posted screenshots of the dialogue with the organizers, and the whole process of combing the content of the two UP main dialogues was carried out.
To put it simply, the editor commissioned the blogger to collect the questions, and said that it would be appropriately placed in the questions of the UP conversation, but did not specify which UP owner, did not expect this situation to occur in the end.
It is not sure whether it is deliberately arranged by the program group and the unequal distribution of male and female UP masters.
But this has set off a new wave of discussion, and netizens commented on it:
"The interview arrangement is too unequal, invite a feminist professor to interview, but still love men, this place is really not too outrageous."
"Women's questions are asked by men, what a hand! After reading it, it is estimated that many people will: Wow, this man really understands us, what a good man! ”
"Let women ask marriage and love, let men ask equality and ask men condense, are these two really not praising men and stepping on women?"
In addition, in response to this question, "Jianghu Juren" also made a response to refute rumors, "The teacher of the publishing house did make a solicitation, but he didn't give it to me because he was too rushed", saying that most of his questions were asked by himself and posted his outline.
In general, the focus of the incident was whether the planning was to solicit questions from women's discussion groups, but focused on the distribution of questions. However, this melon needs to be looked at again, and the careful focus is not to draw conclusions now.
Such a whole event, in short, no matter which side, the flow is there, only the world of Chizuko Ueno as a tool man is completed. Of course, more people have seen Chizuko Ueno's book and paid attention to her ideas.
Finally, I sighed that Mr. Ueno is 75 years old and still so productive and energetic, which is really powerful. Her life is also admirable, always following her own pace, respecting and tolerating different choices, gentle and firm.