Author —— Kaga User: Cream Flower Roll Jun
The first quarter of 2022 has passed, and the competition of independent brand hybrid models has also begun to enter a white-hot stage, each of which has come up with its own hybrid models to join the battlefield, and the situation of hybrid models has been broken. I have already test-drived Qin Plus DM-i, Song Plus DM-i, and the performance of Macchiato DHT, BYD DM-i system and Great Wall DHT system on these three cars can be called quite outstanding, and the high degree of product completion of Macchiato has left a deep impression on me. Recently, another independent brand giant Geely also brought its latest main model Xingyue L hybrid version into the battlefield, both from product positioning or from the price range and Wei brand latte formed a head-on confrontation situation, many netizens are consulting which of these two cars is stronger and more worth buying, and I myself am also full of curiosity about Geely's set of 1.5T+ 3-block DHT powertrain, decided to compare Song Plus DM-i and Macchiato DHT last time, The Geely Star-Vietnam L Hybrid Edition and latte DHT were compared to the competitors.
[Say in front] Because the pure fuel version of the Hoshikoshi L I have written an experience article, and the Hoshikoshi L hybrid version model and the pure fuel version of the model in terms of interior design, static experience and other aspects of the difference points are very small, so the introduction of the static part of the Hoshikoshi L hybrid version in this article is limited to the part that is different from the fuel version, and the common point is that please look at the experience article of the pure fuel version.
In addition, the models of this article's test driving experience are the top model of the Star-Etsu L Hybrid and the top model of latte DHT (excluding the electronically controlled suspension), and the models of other configurations may have differences in product strength from the models of this experience, so it is not possible to fully apply the views of this article to other configuration models.
【Exterior design】 The overall design of the Xingyue L hybrid version is not separated from the pure fuel version, but in order to highlight the identity of the hybrid version, Geely has made a relatively large detailed change in the front face and rim shape, first of all, the Geely family-style straight waterfall type middle net shape is canceled, and replaced by a large number of horizontal short strips of the same color as the body, and added a luminous car logo; the rim also uses a low wind resistance design to highlight the "new energy identity". However, in general, from my aesthetic orientation, the design of the Xingyue L hybrid version looks like a "strong sense of plastic", which is not as advanced as the pure fuel version.
Geely Hoshikoshi L 1.5T Thor Hi· Appearance of the X oil-electric hybrid version
From the design at a glance can see that the latte DHT is between the mocha and macchiato DHT products, or continue the "magic VV series" modeling routine, like the other two cars, I personally feel that it is not good, although the macchiato looks a little more advanced, but still full of the incongruity brought about by the failure of the magic reform, the headlights, trim and other details of the shape is not with the lower Haval products to open the gap, the sense of cheapness is stronger.
The appearance of the Wei brand latte DHT
In short, with my personal aesthetic orientation, from the perspective of design alone, the Star-Vietnam L Hybrid Version is far better than the latte DHT even if it is not as good as the gasoline version.
【Interior design】 The interior design of the Hoshikoshi L hybrid version is almost identical to the pure fuel version, and the views on this interior design can refer to the experience article of the pure fuel version, the only change is the color scheme, compared to the gasoline version of "white + brown splicing leather", "blue + gray flipped fur" combination, the interior color of the Hoshigoe L hybrid version is changed to "white + blue splicing leather", and "pure black flipped fur" combination, of which the blue and white scheme uses a deeper shade than the gasoline version of blue flipped fur, with a higher saturation of blue The sense of grade has been reduced, and the texture of the pure black fur interior is good, but it seems a little monotonous, in general, these four sets of interior styles I still think that the gasoline version of the blue + gray fur scheme is the best look.
Geely Hoshikoshi L 1.5T Thor Hi· Interior color scheme of the X-oil-electric hybrid version
Latte DHT interior continues to continue the family design, at first glance looks almost the same as Mocha and Macchiato, but in fact there are some design details and space layout differences, but also reflects the latte in the Mocha and Macchiato product positioning, overall the sense of luxury and technology created is still relatively strong, but the front row of the central air conditioning outlet compared to Mocha is more abrupt, I personally do not like it, in addition, the show car "white + purple" color matching is also easy to cause aesthetic fatigue, Although three other color schemes are also available, it is not known how the other colors actually perform because they have not seen the actual car.
Interior of the Wei brand latte DHT
However, if you compare at the interior design level, between the Hoshikoshi L and the latte, I personally prefer the latte, first of all, the sense of luxury at the level of detail is stronger, and I personally do not like the triple screen design.
【Static experience】Star-Etsu L hybrid version in terms of static experience and pure fuel version almost no difference, whether it is the man-machine model in the car, space performance, or seats are consistent with the pure fuel version, details you can move to the pure fuel version experience article.
Geely Hoshikoshi L 1.5T Thor Hi· X oil-electric hybrid version of the seats and space
The only difference is the performance of the load capacity of the trunk, due to the need for more space to accommodate the power battery, the body structure layout of the Star-Etsu L Hybrid Edition is bound to be different from the pure fuel version, and the surprising difference is only reflected in the fact that a layer of mezzanine under the trunk floor of the pure fuel version is occupied, which has almost no impact on the overall loading practicality. Here is a clear praise for Geely.
Comparison of the storage compartment under the trunk floor of the Geely Star-More L Pure Fuel Edition (left) and the Hybrid Edition (right).
Entering the front row of latte DHT, the workmanship, materials and luxury created by the interior can be called a cross-level existence, especially the wireless charging slot design of mobile phones like Mocha, and the excellent mobile phone fixed damping creates a strong sense of luxury. The grip of the steering wheel is almost exactly the same as that of the mocha, and the rear is relatively flat, which is not conducive to stable grip, but the material performance is excellent, and the multi-functional button panel adopts a piano paint design, which is easy to stain fingerprints and produce scratches.
The front ergonomic model gives praise, the steering wheel, seat adjustment range is relatively large, I believe that most drivers can find a comfortable driving sitting posture. In addition, there is an improvement in the front row that I did not expect, that is, the air conditioning touch screen that was criticized on the mocha performed much better on the latte, possibly due to the difference in body size and layout, the angle of the latte DHT screen and the mocha piece have some differences, the screen fitting process may also be improved, the final result is that the content displayed on this screen can be observed even in the outdoor strong light, although there is still a reflective phenomenon, But it will not be completely invisible like Mocha, which solves a major problem at the static level of Mocha.
Front row of the Wei brand latte DHT
The front seat performance is excellent, the same level I really can't think of any model can be used as an opponent to compete with, the seat is wide and soft, the surface material uses a spliced leather + part of the fur combination of material, it looks very luxurious, the distribution of the shape and filling material is reasonable, there is no stress too concentrated area, bringing enough sagging feeling while providing good support. The length of the seat cushion is good, the backrest and headrest can also support the driver's upper body very well, and with rich adjustment functions, the whole seat can fit the curve of the human body very well.
Front seats of the Wei brand latte DHT
The front seat is fixed in my comfortable driving posture after entering the rear row, the space performance is good, the leg space and head space are slightly smaller than the Hoshikoshi L, but it is already relatively spacious, the rear seat and the front row also give a clear praise, all aspects of the performance can not be faulted, whether it is the seat shape, material performance is very good, the comfort is very high.
Rear seats of the Wei brand latte DHT
Trunk performance is not very good in the expected, should be subject to the limitations of the platform architecture design, the Great Wall Group this generation of SUV models trunks have a very high floor problem, latte also unsurprisingly inherited this shortcoming, affecting the vertical height at the same time greatly reduced the convenience of loading, while the depth performance and horizontal width performance is not very good, the loading capacity is much worse than the Star More L hybrid version, criticize, this is also the only hard injury of the latte DHT in terms of static performance.
The trunk of the Geely Star-Vietnam L Hybrid Edition (left) and the Wei brand latte DHT (right).
In general, the static performance of the two cars can be said to be mutually superior and inferior, Geely Xingyue L has a relatively larger riding space and far ahead of the loading capacity, while the latte DHT has more comfortable seats and a stronger sense of luxury interior, friends interested in these two cars must go to personal experience, according to their subjective preferences and needs of the priority to choose the right products for themselves.
The main reason why [Car Engine System] took this piece out and wrote it separately is that the performance of the Geely Star Yue L Hybrid Edition in this regard can be said to be so bad that it is difficult for me to accept it. First of all, the fluency of the system is relatively poor, although the daily operation is not stuck, but the operation delay is more obvious, especially the delay of the driving mode switching has reached a crazy degree, from turning the knob to the system response time has reached about two seconds, in addition, the system can operate the options and realistic content is not rich enough.
There are also some problems with the content and layout of the LIQUID crystal instrument display, I feel that there is no careful design for hybrid models, although there is an energy flow display, but under normal circumstances, it is impossible to display the battery's power state (sport mode can), and absolutely the vast majority of hybrid or pure electric models have the kinetic energy recovery and energy output status indication function is also not respected, resulting in I can not judge whether this hybrid system has a CRBS function.
Latte DHT performance in this regard is better, although with Macchiato and Mocha there is a problem of lcd instrument size is too small, but fortunately the information displayed above is still relatively intuitive, in addition to the central control of the large screen menu logic design and operation fluency are good performance, the function is relatively complete, there is no hard injury.
【Powertrain/brake foot feeling】The performance of the powertrain is the most core part of the power of a car product, after entering the hybrid era, due to the addition of electric drive has brought some innate advantages in technical principles, everyone has general expectations for the performance of the hybrid model powertrain. As a HEV model, the Hoshikoshi L Hybrid Edition and latte DHT are also equipped with a set of their own series parallel hybrid system, and from the final result, the performance of the Hoshigoe L Hybrid Edition powertrain can be said to have surprised me, while the latte DHT can be said to be close to perfection.
Hoshigoe L hybrid version of this hybrid system consists of a 1.5T three-cylinder turbo engine + permanent magnet synchronous motor + 3-speed DHT, the maximum comprehensive power of 180 kilowatts, absolute power and the previous test drive of pure fuel version of hoshikoshi L does not have a significant somatosensory gap, or quite abundant, and the addition of electric drive gives people the feeling that the front section of acceleration is more vigorous and coherent.
Power response to bad reviews, yes, the main problem of the Star Yue L hybrid version of the powertrain is actually in the power response, and it is in the least desirable working conditions. In the most common daily driving "taxiing and then accelerating" working conditions, when the driver gives a small power request, the motor will not immediately output power, but will hold nearly a second of time and then pop the car out, from the instrument energy flow can be observed that the Star More L hybrid version can not switch from the charging state to the discharge state in time, seriously affecting the driving experience, as an electric drive model is completely unqualified, it is better to carry a dual-clutch transmission pure fuel version of the model.
Smoothness can not give praise, yes, you read it right, the Star-Over L Hybrid Edition also has significant problems in terms of smoothness, and at a speed of about 60kph per hour, you can often feel the frustration brought by the impact of the 3-speed DHT shift, and there may be two of the five setbacks that are more serious, and the performance in this regard is also far less than the pure fuel version model equipped with a dual-clutch transmission.
The brake foot feeling of the Star More L Hybrid Version is very close to the pure fuel version, as mentioned earlier, due to the reasons displayed by the instrument, I can not judge whether this car is equipped with CRBS function, overall, as with the gasoline version, the initial section of the Brake Pedal of the Star More L Hybrid Edition has a short empty stroke, and the working stroke of the entire pedal is relatively short, but the braking force output within the effective stroke is still in place, but the short stroke pedal is still required for the driver to spend time to adapt to achieve the level of fine control, otherwise it is easy to appear "deep foot." , shallow foot" state.
Latte DHT is equipped with a maximum comprehensive power of 181 kW 1.5T four-cylinder turbo engine + permanent magnet synchronous motor + 2-speed DHT powertrain, and the Star More L Hybrid Version does not open the gap in parameters, absolute power, latte DHT somatosensory power is also quite abundant, and the Star More L Hybrid Version is at the same level.
The two dimensions of smoothness and power response give absolute praise, the performance of this powertrain on the latte DHT is very outstanding, the degree of completion is extremely high, the response to the power request is very timely, the output characteristics are extremely delicate and silky, there is no offensive setback or intrusion, and the overall performance is even stronger than Honda's 2.0L i-MMD.
The brake foot feel of the latte DHT is also praised, the braking force output is very linear, and the connection between kinetic energy recovery and mechanical braking cannot be perceived, and the problem of excessive brake pedal feedback on the Machiato DHT has also been solved on the latte DHT.
[Steering feel / daily control] Hoshigoe L hybrid version of the steering feel of the supervision logic is also almost exactly the same as the pure fuel version, but in the details I personally feel that there are still some small improvements, first of all, with the pure fuel version of the model, the steering wheel back to the steering angle gain is basically completely completely absent, and in the U-turn this need to play a full circle of the working conditions there is a sense of carelessness, the positive torque with the speed gain is more obvious, but the steering wheel in the global matching of the damping is relatively small. The matching of the center area torque and damping is better than that of the pure fuel version, and the steering wheel jam or left and right swing of the pure fuel version of the model is not felt when accelerating at full speed.
Daily handling performance gives clear praise, Star Yue L hybrid version inherits the advantages of pure fuel version of the model, daily handling feels excellent, steering precision, body following is excellent, body posture convergence is also very crisp, this performance is one of the biggest advantages of this car.
Latte DHT's steering feel gives praise, the positive torque with the speed, with the steering angle gain are very obvious, the gain process is also more delicate, linear, matching damping is also just right, the only point I personally do not like the place is the central area of the feel I think can be a little tighter, the basic torque and damping can be played some more, more can create a sense of heaviness and high-grade.
The daily handling performance can also give a good review, but there is still a gap with the extremely sharp and compact performance of the Star-More L Hybrid Version. The steering is more accurate, and the body follow-up performance is also good, but when making a quick U-turn and changing lines, the roll of the body is still significantly larger than that of the star more L, and the body's action is not so crisp, and sometimes there will be a small swing.
[NVH / chassis filter] NVH, the Star Yue L hybrid version for the external ambient sound, wind noise, and tire noise suppression are very in place, but the noise generated by the internal combustion engine at the start of the machine is much more obvious than the hybrid system of BYD, Honda, and great wall, but fortunately, there is no vibration into the car, it seems that the resonance point of the three-cylinder engine is well avoided at the standard time, and the overall performance is much better than the Toyota THS2.
Chassis vibration filter performance gives a clear praise, the chassis of the Star Yue L hybrid version is also very good in terms of comfort performance while ensuring good handling, the vibration will be processed very textured, the sense of premium and the sense of heaviness is very strong, regardless of the size of the vibration processing is in one go, the front and rear suspension are not any tremors, and the body does not have excess shaking. In addition, it is estimated that due to the improvement of the curb quality compared to the pure fuel version, it is easier to trigger the shock absorber work, and the phenomenon of "the texture when the low-speed overstretch is not as good as the high-speed" on the pure fuel version of the model no longer exists in the hybrid version, and praise is proposed.
The NVH performance of latte DHT is also praised, and the isolation of wind noise, tire noise, and external ambient sound is also very in place, and the noise and vibration of the internal combustion engine at the start of the engine in the normal driving of the city are basically negligible, which is better than the Hoshikoshi L hybrid version.
Chassis shock filter performance to the middle of the evaluation, in the specification of 235/55/R19 Michelin Haoyue 4 tires under the blessing, latte DHT can also show a good sense of isolation when dealing with vibration, the overall is more tenacious, but in the past the front and rear axles have some more obvious trembling, the body will also have some excess shaking, it seems a little loose, this performance and the Star More L hybrid version there is still a big gap.
[Comparison summary] It is not difficult to see from the article that the performance of the Star-Vietnam L hybrid version of the model can be said to be unsatisfactory, and the first feeling that gave me was "calibration laziness". Although it inherits the advantages of the pure fuel version of the model space practicality and the excellent chassis quality, on the other hand, it has not been able to solve the problems of steering feel and brake foot feeling of the pure fuel version model, and there are obvious flaws in the powertrain performance of the core competitiveness of the hybrid model. Although the latte DHT has a short board of trunk loading capacity, and there is also a gap between the chassis quality and the Hoshigoe L hybrid version, the excellent driving experience and other aspects of the excellent powertrain calibration level and other aspects of the performance make me have to admit that the comprehensive product strength of this car is stronger than the Hoshigoe L hybrid version, the product completion is higher, and it is a better car overall. Geely can be regarded as a disadvantage this time, and I hope that in the future, I can sink my heart to catch up with my opponents and come up with better products.
Finally, as an aside, I had to complain about the naming rules of the Geely Xingyue L hybrid model, I thought that the naming sequence of the Wei brand coffee series was exaggerated enough, but I did not expect that Geely was more exaggerated this time, and the official full name of the model I tested was called "Hoshikoshi L 1.5T Thor Hi · X Oil-Electric Hybrid Edition Super Rui", I don't know how much water the people in Geely's product department have in their brains to give a car such a meaningless and confusing complex name, combining Chinese, numbers, letters and English words, in addition to outrageous, I really can't find a suitable adjective...