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Hara: Hon-Inbo battle "10 consecutive victories" talk Fumihiro × (part 1) "What is the strongest player?"
From: Daily News
Author: Maruyama Jin
Translation and finishing: Make an excuse to be quiet for 3 days in a row
In the Battle of Beninfang in Go, the 25th Honinfang Zhixun - Zhao Zhixun Jiudan, who achieved ten consecutive hegemonies, and the Buninfang Bunyu - Ikuyama Yutakudan, who had the qualification of the 26th Honinfang, began a dialogue in the 150th anniversary of the founding of the Daily News on February 16, "Zhao Zhixun × How the Absolute King was Born ~ The 10 consecutive hegemony of the Honinfang War ~". We will divide the content into three times to present to you, this time against the Ben in Fang War, starting from the Azuchi Momoyama era of the Honin Fang sand counting sand, reviewing the previous generations of Ben In Fang chess players. The moderator of the conversation was Yukari Yoshihara.
The first meeting was 17 years ago
Zhao Zhixun won the title of Benyinfang in the 44th issue of the Battle of Benyinfang in 1989, and after winning the Ten Consecutive Hegemony in 1998, he was hung up with the title of 25th Benyinfang Zhixun. And Iyama Yuta was born in 1989, when he first understood things, Zhao Zhixun was in the Battle of Ben indyo. The match between the two players was played in the 12th Ahan Kiriyama Cup All Japan Express Chess Open in 2005, when Yuta Iyama, who was still a four-dan player, entered the tournament after winning the preliminary selection B, the preliminary A, and the final preliminary, and in the semi-finals, he faced Zhao Zhixun, who was holding the title of ten dan at the time, and finally won the white mid-game. He then defeated Kyūdan Kobayashi in the final, setting a new record for the youngest person to win the title at the age of 16 years and 4 months.
——What kind of existence is Zhao Zhixun to Yuta Iyama?
Yuta Iyama: I still admire Teacher Zhao Zhixun, from the time I first started learning Go, Teacher Zhao Zhixun got the title of Ben infang, and then watched Teacher Zhao Zhixun win ten consecutive championships. It is an untouchable existence for me, and when I meet Teacher Zhao Zhixun, I can hear interesting words and sometimes point out to me harshly, which is a unique teacher for me.
When did you start learning chess?
Yuta Iyama: When I was 5 years old, I remember that the year I was born was the year when Cho Ji-hoon began his 10-in-a-row. I remember when I was in 5 consecutive or 6 consecutive championships, I witnessed everything as a chess fan.
——How did Teacher Zhao Zhixun feel after hearing this?
Zhao Zhixun: I am very moved. For the first time, I knew that a person like Zhao Zhixun was finally regarded as a serious person.
- When did you know about The existence of Yuta Iyama?
Cho Ji-hoon: In the first meeting, I think that after that victory over me, Yuta Iyama won the championship. At that time, rather than talking about his strength, I admired his attitude and character. When you play chess with him, you can feel his sincere feelings and character, and he really does a perfect job in this regard. Although many people are very strong in their chess, Yuta Iyama has a very correct attitude towards Go so far. Such a person can win the world.
Yuta Iyama: Teacher Cho Ji-hoon is really an untouchable existence, and after becoming a professional chess player, you can feel his soul just by playing the game, and I remember that I was very nervous at that time.
Ben is still charming because of the show and the slightly inferior strength
This year will be the 77th issue of the Honinbo War, and the history of honinbo dates back to the Edo period. It was not until the 20th century that the 21st Ben in-house Hideya decided to abolish the hereditary system. The name "Honinbo" was given to the Mainichi Shimbun and the Japan Chess Academy. From 1939 onwards, the "Battle of Ben in Fang" was established to determine the title of Ben In Fang with strength. This time, I asked Cho Ji-hoon and Yuta Iyama to talk about their favorite chess players.
Zhao Zhixun: The chess of the previous dynasties can be said to be the best chess game in our time. Teacher Wu Qingyuan, Teacher Eio Sakata, Anduyuki Fujisawa, etc., they are all playing "The Complete Works of Honin fang Battle" to learn chess. I remember that none of my predecessors did not learn chess without watching the Complete Works of Ben Infang.
Yuta Iyama: It has a history of more than 70 years after the Honinbo War was changed to a strength system, but we must not forget that this is something that has been inherited from generation to generation by the great Honinfang, and if you can obtain the qualification of the honorary Honinfang, your name can also be under the name of honinfang. Ben in-House is very different for me than other tournaments. Teacher Zhao Zhixun is the twenty-fifth Ben in fang, and I have the qualification of the twenty-sixth ben yin fang, from this point I feel very incredible, full of emotions.
——Who are the most favorite and strongest chess players in the past?
Yuta Iyama: I would definitely choose the teacher sitting next to me. Teacher Zhao Zhixun said that the benyinfang of the past generations, their chess scores are like a bible, but the most I put is the chess score of teacher Zhao Zhixun, for me this is my bible, it is a special existence.
--What are your thoughts on chess in the Edo period?
Yuta Iyama: Teacher Doshi and Sensei Hideyoshi, the chess of these two feels very different, although I don't dare to say how much I have put up, but I can feel that the strength is really very strong.
Zhao Zhixun: My favorite is Xiuhe Teacher, that is, Xiu Ce's master's chess game. But he has a lot of personality, and when everyone thinks it's good, he tends to do other things. Doc and Hideyoshi are of course also very strong, just like Yuta Iyama. Although I am also the 10-in-a-row champion of Ben Infang, my strength is completely different. I stumbled to get 10 consecutive champions, but he was very clean and clean, although the last time was very dangerous, but before it was very stable on the road of the king. Therefore, like Yuta Iyama, he felt embarrassed for 10 consecutive years.
Hidekazu sensei's chess pieces are not very dominant, slightly weaker. Although it doesn't look very powerful, in my heart, Xiuhe Teacher is my favorite chess player. Of course, the most influential thing is to watch Wu Qingyuan's chess, I met Wu Qingyuan teacher, I began to play a good chess game. Before that, I had been playing the show and the teacher's chess pieces, and then I was very touched. Shuwa is my favorite teacher, and Mr. Yuta Iyama is someone I respect. Of course, I also have a lot of respect for Teacher Wu Qingyuan and Xiu Ce, but I don't like perfect people. It's like I'm backing Yuta Iyama today.
——In the past Benyinfang, which chess players do you want to play against?
Yuta Iyama: To be honest, there are many, and I want to play chess with Mr. Doksa and Mr. Hidetsu, and their respective styles and characteristics are different, but I want to experience their strength firsthand. In particular, Mr. Xiu ce and I are completely different styles, and the strength that can finally win after taking the lead is a difficult place for myself to imitate, and I hope to feel his strength through the confrontation with him.
Zhao Zhixun: Among the ben in the past generations, the strongest must be Yuta Iyama. However, playing such a chess game in the Edo period felt very remarkable. I'm also looking forward to Mr. Hideta's victory after playing against Yuta Iyama. In an era without the internet and mobile phones, it's curious how they think about chess. This is indeed a miracle.
- If it can be achieved, who would you most like to play against?
Zhao Zhixun: Of course, everyone. Not one left. If I could, I would love to play chess in that era.