Original address: https://mainichi.jp/articles/20220304/k00/00m/040/105000c
Hara: Hon-Inbo battle "10 consecutive victories" talk Fumihiro × (part 1) "What is the strongest player?"
From: Daily News
Author: Maruyama Jin
Translation and collation: make excuses to be quiet My name at the little broken station is not "find an excuse to be quiet", very angry
The 25th Ben in Fang Zhixun - Zhao Zhixun Jiudan and the 26th Ben Yin Fang Wenyu - Jingshan Yuta Jiudan, who has the qualification of the 26th Ben Infang, began a dialogue in the 150th anniversary commemoration of the founding of the Daily News " Zhao Zhixun × How the Absolute King of Jingshan Yutai was Born ~ Ben In fang Battle 10 Consecutive Hegemony Dialogue ~". In the second issue, we asked these two to introduce a key game of chess on the way to 10 consecutive games. In the 10 consecutive championships, both sides have won the decider after 3 wins and 3 losses. Zhao Zhixun had 3 times, and Iyama Yuta had also had 2 times. The moderator of this conversation is Yukinori Yoshihara.
"Hands are shaking"
——Each of them will introduce the key chess game in the 10 consecutive championships of Ben infang.
Yuta Iyama: Every year the Battle of Honinbo was very difficult, and it was full of 7 rounds when he first won the title of Honinbo from Kyigo Yamashita. Last year's series of 10 consecutive championships also reached the decider, which should be these two times. Especially last year, in the case of 1 wins and 3 losses, and the content of those games was very bad, but fortunately, they were all adjusted back in the end.
After being eaten by your opponent in game 4, you have to participate in an international tournament the next day, and then you win that game.
Yuta Iyama: Participated in China's Go League. After winning that game, his state eased up.
——After just finishing the two-day system, I believe that I am very tired, and then I have to face the World Series after one night, this process is not very hard.
Yuta Iyama: After all, that was the first time I had to play other games after the two-day system, and to be honest, I was a little uneasy, but at that time, my state was very bad, so if that was the case, I would try to come up with the best content. I was eaten early in the game of the 4th game, so I mentally felt that I couldn't be worse than that game, as long as the next game started to gradually recover.
——Teacher Zhao Zhixun also had the experience of playing 7 games in the process of 10 consecutive games, and whether he also had a key game of chess.
Zhao Zhixun: Let me add the content of Yuta Iyama. Last year, in the 2nd to 4th game of the Ben innings, Yuta Iyama's chess game content was really bad. It was also the first time I saw Yuta Iyama play such a chess game, and I was also very shocked. At the end of the 4th game, I finished the game against the Chinese player, and I read the whole game, and the content of that game was really very good. It was a completely winning game, and that victory made me think that the goddess of victory was still taking care of Yuta Iyama. If you don't have that game of chess and still perform dull, you are likely to lose last year's seven chess pieces. From my point of view, I care more about the content of the game than winning or losing, and yuta Yamayama played that game really well. Win clean and neat, sweeping away the fatigue before. It's quite touching to think about it now.
For Wang Licheng's 6th game, Zhao Zhixun Bai 20 continued to form an imitation chess if he played in the ☆ position, but the actual battle was in the A position
——So how to evaluate your own 10 consecutive masters.
Zhao Zhixun: My words have been for decades and have long been forgotten, but in the year of the impact of the 10 consecutive hegemons, I really want to have this 10 consecutive hegemons. That year and Wang Licheng made 3 wins and 2 losses in the 6th game, as long as the victory can achieve 10 consecutive championships, that game I played to the 18th hand and Wang Licheng played an imitation chess. Because I really wanted to win that game, and I forgot about the rest of the game.
—— I remember in the news, I saw the sentence "Finally my hands were shaking".
Zhao Zhixun: Maybe it's really like that, I really want to win that game.
- Why is that?
Zhao Zhixun: The number of "9" is actually quite embarrassing, and it would be best if I could reach "10". Before Mr. Takakawa Katsura had 9 consecutive bullies, but I always felt that it was quite awkward to stop at "9", and "10" was much cleaner.
—— Did Yuta Iyama ever realize the 10 consecutive hegemonies?
Yuta Iyama: Zhao Zhixun's 10 consecutive championships is indeed a record that is difficult to break, and I did not think that I could challenge the 10 consecutive championships, and last year's Ben in the Battle of Ben in fang, because I realized that I could impact this goal, so I wanted to win. Then I wanted to face ben in the best condition. Challenger Shibano Tiger Maru is indeed a very difficult chess player, and I try to do what I can.
——Judging from the opponents of qifanqi in the past years, they all played against the senior chess players at the beginning, and then they met challengers who were younger than themselves, did they have any special ideas about this?
Yuta Iyama: In recent years, especially young people have often appeared in title battles, so I haven't thought about it in recent years, but at first I really didn't want to lose to a player who was younger than me. Every fight is very difficult, but there is a lot to learn from talented young people, so I want to continue to grow.
Yuta Iyama's strength is not limited to chess
——From the perspective of Teacher Zhao Zhixun, where is the secret of Yuta Iyama's strength?
Zhao Zhixun: I think this is the result of playing thousands of games with his teacher. In that year, I played 1 game of chess with my teacher. A few thousand plates is unimaginable. Not to mention that he learned chess with the new means at that time, his talent is needless to say, and his character is also very good. Some players have occasional bursts and are lucky enough to get a title or two, but real champions don't emerge so easily. Multiple factors need to be linked together to have absolute strength. If even one of these factors is missing, it may not be so strong.
- How do you feel after listening to this?
Yuta Iyama: To be honest, I didn't expect Teacher Zhao Zhixun to answer the question so sincerely, and I was quite touched. When I was a child, Mr. Kunio Ishii taught me a lot of things by hand and cultivated my own basic skills.
——I believe that there are many scenes that give me headaches when I am in the game, and how to make decisions when I can't make a decision.
Yuta Iyama: Many times I am actually ambiguous, although my words do not mean that the situation is not clear, I always want to play the best chess game in the current situation. Rather than being undecided, my words actually want to play the best first-hand chess.
——Teacher Zhao Zhixun has many experiences of winning consecutive victories after 3 consecutive defeats. What kind of mentality is it after losing 3 consecutive games?
Zhao Zhixun: I remember the matter of Yuta Iyama clearly, but my own affairs are too long to forget. Yuta Iyama won a three-game game in the end last year, and the content was to suppress the opponent. I feel that a man like Yuta Iyama has finally returned to himself. Contrary to 3 consecutive defeats the content miraculously bad, then found their own feelings and won all the games that followed. And I often make stupid mistakes to lose 3 sets in a row, if I don't win 1 set, I really can't say it, and I win 4 sets in a row. Of course, I am not humble when I say this, and the strength of Izuyama Yuta and I am not a dimension at all. I was completely walking on a tightrope and shakily getting 10 consecutive masters, so I can't really remember anything in retrospect. It was just a stroke of luck. We can see by looking at the content of the chess game, and Yuta Iyama won very cleanly and neatly. After winning Shibano Tiger Maru in the 5th set, the 6th and 7th sets were also won. When Shimono Tiger Maru realized that he could win, he felt that he had lost himself. So if you just look at chess, I think Yuta Iyama is really strong.
- Have you ever felt favored by the Goddess of Victory?
Yuta Iyama: Sometimes I have confidence in decision and judgment, and sometimes I have no confidence. When playing chess, I am sometimes confused and troubled. However, I still don't care too much about the result, and sometimes when I subconsciously come up with my best means, the state is actually OK. When the state is not good, I will be very concerned about the result, and sometimes I will let myself use too much force.
——Teacher Zhao Zhixun won the 10 consecutive championships of Ben Yinfang, does he have his own secret?
Zhao Zhixun: My words, in the past 10 or 20 years, the content of the chess game has been very bad. This time, after Yuta Iyama won the 10 consecutive championships of Honinbo, I also realized that there must be questions for me, and I also considered a lot. Human beings, no matter how strong they are and how good their character is, you still need the favor of the goddess of victory, and you can't do it without luck. When reviewing, it can be felt that many people are really strong, but there are also many people who just can't win the championship. So you have to have a little bit of luck. Yuta Iyama's strength is really strong, but there is also a lot of luck. Therefore, Yuta Iyama will also be very modest to give an interview after winning the game, and maybe he thinks the same in his heart. "There are still many deficiencies in my strength, and it is pure luck to win", this sentiment can feel the humility of Yuta Iyama. Although Yuta Iyama was as powerful as a godman, he certainly didn't think so.
——What is the thing that is gratifying after reaching 10 consecutive championships?
Yuta Iyama: If I hadn't gotten the 10 consecutive championships of Honinbo, I wouldn't have had today's event, so I'm really happy. When I won the seven crowns, I also thought it was incredible, and I still think about it now. Rather than reaching a 10-game streak, I'm still focused on the games ahead. I wish I had grown a little more than I do now.
Zhao Zhixun: My words have not yet reached the age of looking back on the past, so every day in the future is bound to work harder. I'm a late-stage chess player, so everyone is looking forward to my future performance. When Yuta Iyama storms the 20-year-old Honinbo, I will be a challenger.