Xin'an Evening News Anhui Network Dawan News A few days ago, Dong Hongxiang, former president of the Anhui Old Wine Collection Special Committee and a state-level sommelier, was a guest of the Dawan Huipai column named by the gujing tribute wine vintage original pulp 20. From the collection of old wine, to wine tasting and liquor culture, Dong Hongxiang and Huipai "meet happily with a pot of turbid wine". In the old wine showroom, which smells of wine as soon as you enter the door, an "immersive interview" of the old wine is being staged. Dong Hongxiang talked about his "cup of wine life", and also talked about the drinking value and collection value of a glass of wine, and what kind of mentality to face the old wine collection fever.
An old wine collector who makes drones
Huipai: Just introduced Dong Hongxiang is one of our most curious characters, liquor collectors, but looking at your introduction yesterday, your job is not this.
Dong Hongxiang: Right. My job is to do drones, production, research and development, drone talent training, and drone applications, the national drone pilot practice standards, we developed. We have the only test center for drone pilots in Anhui, which is my main business. As for the liquor collection, this is my hobby.
Huipai: I was just thinking that we are an immersive interview today, which is different from the previous Huipai interviews. Just entered this space, the nasal cavity is filled with the aroma of liquor, your introduction, in fact, and my mind is quite contrasting. Listening to the introduction is an IT man, what is the story behind the collection of old wine?
Dong Hongxiang: It was more than 20 years ago, when I was still working in the organ, but I couldn't drink enough, and it was difficult to drink alcohol, and I was allergic to alcohol. Once when it was my turn to invite guests, I took two bottles of Shandong old wine from the commissary, and everyone drank very happily, and that time inspired me, I began to look for some old wine, the original purpose was to drink and play among friends. After 2007, the stock market was sluggish, which made it clear that old wine also had value-added functions, and I did not expect that old wine was still worth collecting, and since then it has been out of control. At that time, there was not much money, the original aged wine was very cheap, the people had several bottles of wine at home, and they were afraid of expiration for a long time, and they did not dare to drink it and sell it. In my more than 20 years, the collection of old wine was the earliest from the mouth of the wine, and then divided into categories, sets, a little bit over.
Huipai: At first, I thought you were collecting good wine, but I was still allergic to alcohol. So how did you decide to collect?
Dong Hongxiang: The edible value of baijiu far exceeds the taste of new wine. The biggest value of this thing is to drink, that is, the value of eating, and slowly find that there is cultural value behind it. Collection, before can not talk about, is to buy old wine, buy a lot, after classification, you see my room interior furnishings are in accordance with the set of tie.
Good wine does not have a "curing standard"
Huipai: You also said that the first function of wine is to drink. Do you have a talent for this piece of wine tasting?
Dong Hongxiang: You are not the only one who asks this question, the people who have contacted me are very curious, think that you don't drink how to know the quality of this wine? How to judge the price and value of wine? The threshold of my wine tasting is OK, the lower the threshold, the more sensitive the taste of the wine, and the threshold is an indicator of taste. Drinking and tasting is a part, it is impossible for me to open every kind of wine to taste, from the taste, hops, and finally open to taste. In fact, open and look at the hops to know, how many degrees of this wine, worth to collect, is it a series of wines or distillery main wine, not necessarily to drink. I tasted a small bite of good or bad basically know almost, a few years ago I specially ran to Luzhou old cellar winery to learn winemaking, learn to taste wine.
Huipai: Is there anything special about this? For example, if I go to the market now and face two kinds of wine for a hundred pieces a bottle, which one is more suitable for me? Which is better? I know that now Chinese drinking will judge whether the wine is good or not, although I do not drink liquor, but I am very confused, they say that not choking the throat and not hurting is a good wine.
Dong Hongxiang: From my point of view, what suits you is the best, what you like, what you think is appropriate, that is good wine for you. It's not just about looking at ads and prices. The wine itself from brewing, blending to the factory, now the pricing of the wine is not the era of cost pricing, but the quality of the wine is still different, a bottle of wine in the preparation of the base wine and seasoning wine, ancient 20 and dozens of ancient wells, that difference must be very large. There is also a bottle of wine in the supermarket, there are some indicators, some parameters, is the standard of brewing, the degree, the excellent grade, look at these basically know what this bottle of wine is like. If you say from the perspective of collection, you still want to collect a higher degree, more than 50 degrees.
Huipai: I went to buy wine, A few hundred dollars in my pocket, the focus is on what to see, can you judge that this bottle of wine can be taken home, is it worth buying wine?
Dong Hongxiang: If you have a new bottle of wine, GB is standard, and there will be obvious signs when you eat alcohol-prepared wine.
Huipai: So it still depends on the personal taste, there is no curing standard.
Dong Hongxiang: Not a curing standard, the standard of the people before was that I drank it the night before, and the next day the mouth did not dry the head did not hurt, and now I want to mouth not dry the head is not painful too simple, add some aspirin to the pain tablets, very good to deal with. My advice is still to buy some large wineries, from my point of view is a large winery, relatively able to guarantee and guarantee, because to maintain their own brand image, in addition to its own technology is definitely better.
The old wine collection should also be repaired inside and outside
Huipai: As an old wine collector, can you talk about your collection?
Dong Hongxiang: "Home" does not dare to say, just a collector's hobbyist.
Huipai: You said you started by collecting Kouzi wine.
Dong Hongxiang: Right. At that time 30 dollars a bottle, 53 degrees. Kouzi wine itself is a local famous wine in Anhui, and later gujing tribute, blast furnace, seed, first from Anhui, any county and city in Anhui can find the famous wine of the 90s and 80s.
Huipai: When collecting, you also have your own consciousness.
Dong Hongxiang: Right. It's a hobby.
Huipai: What is the starting point of the collection? For example, if you have any good advice, if I want to collect some liquor, I want to use it when I plan to marry my daughter in ten years or some big thing.
Dong Hongxiang: Or according to personal economic ability, in fact, each price point has a relatively good price of wine. In addition, it is best to choose a wine above 50 degrees. Why, wine above 50 degrees is delicious. If you look at China's famous wines, they are basically 52 degrees and 53 degrees, and if you look at Luzhou Laojiao, Gujing Gong, Jian Nanchun, and then look at Maotai is 53 degrees. From a chemical point of view, most of a bottle of wine is ethanol, and then water, some minerals, a little bit of esters, in fact, ethanol and water, 52 degrees 53 degrees, is the most closely bound molecules, put for ten or twenty years, there will be no changes in the molecules, the wine body is relatively stable. In other words, it will become more and more fragrant, very mellow. Or, for example, 68 degrees of wine, the combination is not tight. Therefore, it makes sense to collect this degree of wine.
Huipai: Now I can understand why your WeChat id is 53 degrees. You just said that if I have money, I can collect high-end wine brand wine, and if ordinary people are interested in hobbies, how can they avoid lightning when collecting?
Huipai: From my point of view, the first is the degree, the second is the large winery, the third is to choose the taste that suits you as much as possible, the fourth is to look at some of the standards in the wine label, the fifth is to be well preserved in the process of our collection, do not see the light, the environment is not too wet or too dry, and it is delicious to put twenty years, which takes some thought.
Huipai: It is not simple, not only is it a matter of economic strength, but also some technical things, I see that many of your wines are still plastic sealed, and you want to dig the cellar?
Dong Hongxiang: The cellar is not OK. I tried to hide some wine on the first and second floors of the basement, suitable for putting some wine that had just come out, the old wine had to be dried, and in the rainy season in the Jianghuai region, these labels were broken, and the collection value went down.
Emblem: External integrity is also important.
Dong Hongxiang: Right. Relatively dry. You see my transparent tape, some of the wine has been treated like this. If you want to put a decade or twenty years, of course, some bottle types are not suitable, but along the seam, raw tape is inert, generally will not have chemical changes with ethanol alcohol, with time more and more tight, put a decade or twenty years. Now the wine, many boxes can not be opened, it is best to be able to deal with it. A lot of wine will still run, and the wine packaging process of the big winery is relatively good, relatively good.
The collectible market is a backdrop to collecting
Huipai: Just now we said collection, you said just a hobbyist, what is it like to walk into the collection room every day? We will consider his appreciation space as a way of investing, is there any potential stock that you think is potential?
Dong Hongxiang: Less than a hundred yuan of bar, Gujing Gong 55 degrees of light bottle of wine, now may be forty or fifty yuan, including Mianzhu Daqu, many wineries in the low-end many varieties can be concerned, the wine of the big distillery, the product line is relatively stable, will continue to produce, with the year there is a possibility of appreciation, one is the drinking value, one is the economic value of sales. As far as possible, choose a large brand, grain wine, and the proportion of edible alcohol is lower, according to the tastes of the people themselves.
Huipai: In the process of your personal collection, you have more experiences, is there a good story to tell?
Dong Hongxiang: All those who engage in collecting, there are many stories, when collecting every object, how every bottle of wine in my house came from, and the communication with the seller, are all stories. From my own point of view, before I worked in the unit, the economic conditions are not too good, all the pocket money is used to buy wine, buy wine you have to have a place to put ah, at that time there was no warehouse, it was piled under the bed behind the sofa, and then more and more, can not put down, squeezed other space, the family is very incomprehensible, said messy you do not drink, buy so much wine for what to do. This kind of persistence of myself did not want to make money, and I did not have this awareness until 2007 and 2008. Any kind of behavior, any kind of collection, if there is no market recognition, certainly not. Like the previous philately, spark collection, wine this thing, before there was no concept of old wine, and then the wine value-added, so that you have more motivation to collect, we play longer than the average people, more contact, more cognition, slowly formed a circle, our wine can be traded in the circle, feed us to continue to buy and collect. Every bottle of wine has a story behind it, and there are too many stories.
Huipai: Anhui Province old wine has a story that can be figured out at once, I saw the wine in my hometown of Ma'anshan.
Dong Hongxiang: Taibai, Quarry Rock.
Huipai: Can you drink it?
Dong Hongxiang: I can drink. It's delicious. Look at the hops. Shake it, look at the size of the flowers, and look at the time of the pile of flowers, the longer the time, the better the wine. Shake it gently and look at the hops. In the 1990s, many degrees of wine were relatively high, and many of the wines in Anhui were above 50 degrees. The earliest gujing low-grade wine, or the concept of low-grade wine proposed by the old factory director, China's low-grade wine origin or from the ancient well gong, many people think that low-grade wine is to add water? Not really. That kind of water is water wine is wine, how to go turbid to taste, very complicated.
The concept of collecting liquor "delicious first"
Huipai: Before you collected wine, it was the north of the south sea?
Dong Hongxiang: Take a bicycle to run in the city. Then there was a car. In 2008, when I saw a small shop, I felt that there was something good, and after a minute or twenty minutes, the car was gone, it was a ramp, and the bicycle slid more than a hundred meters, and it was stopped on a tricycle. Too involved in collecting wine, forget it, this is also the most difficult thing for me to collect wine. After 2008, after the price of wine has increased, after the 40 yuan wine has grown to 140, everyone will flock to it, and now there is no need to run around, and the online circle can be traded. Send a request, much more convenient.
Huipai: Does wine culture also have a region?
Dong Hongxiang: It is a very strange phenomenon, in Anhui, you can receive a lot of wine from Hunan Hubei and other places, and you can receive a lot of Wine from Anhui in other places. Why? Once I went to Lu'an on a business trip and saw a Xiangquan wine, a drunkard's wine. We people don't recognize it, so we let it go for a long time, and I said how many more? The waiter said there was another box, and I said give it to me. At that time it was 18 dollars a bottle. Later, the agent came and said that I sent this goods, I still have it at home, and when I went to his house to see it, the whole family was there. The agent also invited me to a meal at noon and said that finally someone had asked me to take over the plate. Now this bottle of wine is a thousand dollars a bottle, the kind of old clay bottle.
Huipai: Did you have this expectation when you received it?
Dong Hongxiang: No. I know this wine is delicious. The concept of my collection, the first is good drink, the end is the cultural value, the category of this piece. I can drink any bottle of wine.
Capital entry is a double-edged sword for old wine collections
Huipai: The circle is getting bigger and bigger, there is capital entering, do you have any confusion in this regard, and your mood of receiving old wine is different from the mood of the old wine.
Dong Hongxiang: This is a bit like the property in Hefei, maybe the price is high and you can't keep up. In recent years, old wine has been fried wildly, and a bottle of old wine is often thousands, and hundreds of pieces are embarrassed to say. Now the old wine has been basically pushed away from the edible value, now it is very difficult, you do not have a thousand million words on hand, it is difficult to enter this circle.
From the perspective of our pure collection, ten years ago, if I didn't do drones, didn't do other main businesses, just became an old wine merchant, and I would definitely earn a lot more in a year than I do now, but certainly not as many varieties as I do now, because I only look at the price. To a certain extent, capital has promoted the development of our old wine industry and formed the status of this industry, but to a certain extent, it has also stifled and hindered the culture and format of old wine collection, and the real play collection is still less, can not withstand the impact of interests brought by it, and more is to realize. After all, I have a main business, and I hope to make an old wine museum and understand the back of each wine, which is also my wish.
Huipai: Because of the hobby to enter, because of the interest-driven investment, there is still a difference in essence.
Dong Hongxiang: Right. My wine can be drunk, and it in turn promotes my main business. Because we Chinese everyone can't escape liquor when they drink, and I don't approve of saying more and more red wine in the future. Baijiu I use as a tool for communication and friendship, such as I invite you to dinner today, your hometown ma'anshan, I take two bottles of this and put it on the table, the quarry of the 80s of the last century is too white, you will feel that I am very careful, this is a business tool.
Huipai: Some people drink loneliness, some people drink the price, and your wine has more functions.
Dong Hongxiang: Right. Memories of hometown, nostalgia.
Emblem: This part of the value is taken to the extreme.
Dong Hongxiang: Play separately.
Huipai: Can find its location and its home, these old wines in your house is the right one.
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