Read "Senior Engineer Should Talk to Civil Servant Retirement Benefits" to talk about whether senior workers in enterprises can pay more?

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I just read a micro-headline, the title is probably "The pension of senior engineers in enterprises should be the same as that of civil servants", and the writing of this article may have been inspired by the Ministry of Education's "to raise the treatment of teachers to the level of civil servants". In fact, this kind of appeal is not wrong, because enterprises should also pay attention to knowledge and respect talents, and the senior engineers of enterprises are not as good as primary and secondary school teachers?

However, the current state-owned enterprises only look at who has a background, then whose position is high, the state-owned enterprises in this period are all nepotism, most of them are the world, the son inherits the father's business, who has a relationship can be promoted, who will be paid. Under the premise that all students have academic qualifications in today's society, positions are above everything else, and professional titles are useless. I saw an in-service senior engineer of a central enterprise on the Internet, who told that he was only paid according to his position.

He said in the micro headline:

"According to the national policy, the salary of senior professional titles is higher than that of department-level positions, and they can enjoy the treatment of deputy department level, but they are different in different units. For example, colleges and universities shall enjoy the treatment of deputy department level according to the regulations of the Ministry of Education. It is not the same in different companies. For example, AVIC Hongdu, a subsidiary of the Aviation Industry Corporation of China where I work, is not linked to the salary of the position and the title, and it is according to my administrative level."

Now there are many people who comment on the Internet that the pension of retired senior engineers is low, and the pension is low because of the low pension of senior engineers, and before the restructuring of senior engineers, they go to those enterprises that do not die and live to make a living, do not jump jobs to display their talents, and who complains about the low pension after retirement? Some also complained that the senior engineers of the enterprise were fake, and some senior engineers were evaluated by their own units, and their own units were following, which was just nonsense. It seems that those public institutions and primary and secondary school titles are real. I don't know that in the 80s and 90s, the senior professional titles of enterprises are the same as the evaluation of careers and universities, and the senior judges are composed of experts and professors organized by the province, and are evaluated by the provincial senior professional title evaluation committee, and the Municipal Personnel Bureau is the following. Do they all think that those really senior engineers have gone to public institutions and schools to become teachers? Only senior political engineers and senior economists are left, but in fact, public institutions also have various senior teachers according to their majors, and there are also archivists (intermediate) who are also senior... In short, there are all kinds of complaints about senior engineers on the Internet, as if everyone in the enterprise should be equal, no need for knowledge, no need for talents, especially the internal tearing of the inner skin of the enterprise, and the complaint about the senior engineer, no wonder the civil servants of other organs and institutions say that the pension of the enterprise should be low, who told you not to study hard? We are the exam, who is to blame if you can't pass the exam? It seems that the retired civil servants have been admitted in the past, and the senior engineers of the enterprise are not able to pass the civil service examination before they are demoted to the enterprise.

No wonder people say that there are many trolls on the Internet, in fact, these people are some young people today, they don't understand history, don't understand the policies of the past, and they don't break the law by spraying at will on the Internet, but they are injured so unjustly and suffer in the enterprise for a lifetime.

After reading the many comments on this micro headline, I have to tell these young people that in the era of preparing for war and preparing for the people, the students and senior engineers who worked in the military industrial enterprises in the mountains all the year round are examples, and their retirement pensions are only more than 3,000 yuan, which is less than half of the pension of those primary school teachers.

At that time, the cadres of the organs did not require high academic qualifications, and only talked about political ideology and culture, and later went to the university for training before they were transferred to civil servants, and there were many people who got a fake diploma to be transferred to the public, and told a story: The head of an organization in a certain city asked the vice president of the city's education college to get a fake diploma and be promoted, and the vice president was unwilling to cheat, and he was originally going to be promoted to the dean, but later even the vice president was dismissed.

Why do most of the senior engineers in enterprises work in enterprises after graduating from science and engineering? Because in the 80s, there were regulations above that the assignment of college students was to emphasize the corresponding majors and make the best use of them, so most of the organs selected specialized students, and most of the undergraduates were assigned to the enterprises, but after 90 years, the enterprises were not as good as the organs, and most of the people who were transferred from the enterprises to the organs were related. Even if a small number of college students are promoted to work in government agencies and institutions, you will have to obey unconditionally if you are transferred to work in an enterprise.

Many people mistakenly believe that the senior engineers in the company are the ones who blame themselves for their mistakes, which is completely the current employment to figure out the policy of the time. They also say that the pension of a senior engineer in an enterprise is low, and who calls him a low pension? Is it because their pension is low? And the high pension of civil servants and senior engineers in public institutions is high, is it because the pension payment is high? They often compare the senior executives of central state-owned enterprises with the cadres and senior workers of state-owned enterprises in the 90s after 2000, and they do not know their innocence and helplessness.

I'm talking about a senior engineer in a scientific research institution, after being promoted to a leading cadre in the unit, he was transferred to an enterprise in 93 years, and began to pay pension insurance in the enterprise with salary as the payment base, and the payment index was 1.96 is not low, right?

After the establishment of pension accounts in 1996, the first three years of high index were canceled at the time of retirement and replaced with the deemed index 1, and then the enterprise was restructured in 2001. He did not know that before the restructuring, the director of the bureau led the cadres of the organ to the enterprise to carry out the merger of the organs and enterprises, and the director was a junior high school graduate and a layman, and he wanted to be the general manager and director of the bureau, so he robbed the enterprise manager of the power, and after a few years, he made the enterprise lose money and slapped his ass and left.

When the enterprise was restructured, the senior engineer at the age of 50 could not return to the public institution, and he had to be laid off to make a living on his own, and he could change jobs compared to today's college students? A 50-year-old senior worker was not as good as an undergraduate student in his 20s, and this was the reality because of his age, and he could only teach in colleges and universities, and he could only be hired but not transferred, and he had to buy social security by himself. During the employment period, the purchase index is 1.55, the payment fee is equivalent to 3 times that of regular employees, the payment of 1.55 index is equivalent to 4.65 index payment, and only 1/3 of the total payment is credited to the personal account, and the rest enters the overall planning.

Do you think his pension is overpaid?

Can he compare with his career colleagues? Can he compare with the senior executives of state-owned enterprises after 2000? The senior engineer retired in 2011, and if he can return to the public institution, he will be an old man, and his current pension is at least 7,000 yuan. If you can return to the bureau with the director, you will have an additional financial subsidy of 3,000 yuan and a pension of more than 10,000 yuan after retirement.

And now retired in the enterprise, not counting the high level of workers inclined to 300 yuan, the pension is only more than 3,400 yuan. Is this number of pensions a pension payment index is low? No, laid-off self-payment of 1.55 is very high, not to mention that he paid at his own expense, with the personal part of the paid-in index of 1.55, with the current retirement calculation base, according to the career senior worker deemed index of 1.98 (the actual salary and paid-in before his account was also 1.96 was replaced by the enterprise deemed index 1) even if there is no annuity, his pension is more than 7,000 yuan. Why is his pension only 3,400 yuan?

There are two main reasons for this, the first is that he does not pay more, he pays most of the time is laid-off flexible employment payment, most of the fees he pays are filled in the overall planning, the balance of the personal account is less, and the index is 1/3 of 4.65 to 1.55, even so 1.55 is also very high, and it is regarded as the average index of 1, not only the 1.55 after the account is established, but also the 1.96 index before the account is removed, so the average index is only 1.135, which is the average index of overpayment and less.

Therefore, the pension is only 1571 yuan when the base amount of 1,876 yuan is used to calculate the current year. Twelve years later, the calculation base increased by 3.4 times, but the pension only increased by 2.1487 times, 58% less, of course, the pension is only 1871×2.1487 = 3375.6 yuan plus two years of old-age subsidies only more than 3400 yuan. He did pay more for his pension, but did he get more? No.