The company forced me to leave: threats, PUA, surveillance, grabbing mobile phones, I couldn't stand it

Written by Wang Hongxia

Editor/Chen Jiying

In the four recruitment seasons, companies have also begun to change blood, but not all companies are willing to pay reasonable consideration for layoffs.

Jiang Shan, who joined a well-known mother and baby platform after graduation, did not mention compensation when she was "friendly" dismissed.

Jiang Shan knew the reason, "When I first joined, I was an Excel and conference tool person, and there were a few times when I was not familiar with the operation. Another time I angered the founder, I landed the mouse on the conference room, she held a meeting inside, when she was young and did not understand, she knocked on the door and went in to get it, and she directly hit me. ”

The first time she was persuaded to quit, she had no experience, and she didn't know to compensate, plus because of the company atmosphere, she was also very unhappy, just thinking of running away quickly.

Tiger, CEO of TiancaiHang, who provides headhunting services, told Financial Story Club that in his more than ten years of experience, the forced departure without compensation can be heard almost every day, and it is more common for grass-roots employees and small and medium-sized enterprises. "If you want to eliminate someone, the general direct manager will negotiate with the Hr department on what method is the most cost-effective, because the cost of the department is usually linked to the performance of the manager."

In fact, Jiang Shan's experience is still "peaceful", and some more urgent means such as job transfer, PUA, wearing small shoes, cold violence, etc., are not uncommon.

Fang Yu encountered a workplace PUA in his third year of work, and he was responsible for marketing at a large real estate company in Beijing, and later turned to an operation post. Because I was new to operations, the work results were not satisfactory, and every time I reported, I was criticized by the direct leaders for "lack of experience, dragging the team back", and did not give suggestions for improvement.

Daily suppression has become the norm, and even if the target is completed beyond expectations, Fang Yu is still not recognized.

At first, Fang Yu did not realize that he was PUA, the whole person was very unconfident, fortunately, under the explanation of his friend, he saw the truth clearly and immediately chose to leave.

Jiang Shan and Fang Yu's encounter is only a microcosm, the network was forced to leave the news abounds, in the conflict with the company, the hit workers are often still in the ascendant, what they can do more is to resort to the Internet, in order to seek psychological relief:

"Our company will force pregnant women to leave their jobs, and the means are unscrupulous."

"First let you idle yourself feel bored, see if you don't move, then give you a lot of work to crush you, and then buckle your hat and say that you are not capable, I have the privilege of learning." 」

"Chinese New Year's Eve night was dismissed on the same day, on the grounds that the business ability was not good, but before I also arranged for the New Year's duty, resulting in me not buying tickets in advance, Chinese New Year's Eve night with a bunch of personal belongings crowded on the subway, a person in the rental house cried all night."

"I just negotiated with the company today, the leader actually wanted to beat me, and then I called the police before I didn't do it, but I didn't get the resignation certificate, and I didn't dare to go to the company to get it."

"Finance Story Club" found four people who have been forced to leave their jobs, they have experienced the dangers of the workplace, and they are willing to be a lesson for others.

Cajoling, threatening, grabbing my phone, calling the police, I was about to be forced out of depression

Wu Qian 29 years old finance almost 2 years into the job

It has been more than half a year since she was forced to leave, but Wu Qian still has a psychological shadow, "Occasionally looking back, I still hate and feel bad, sometimes I shed tears, even if the current job, all aspects are better than the last one." ”

Wu Qian's former company was a manufacturing listed company in a second-tier city. In the nearly two years since she joined the company, she has been in charge of finance.

When the company asked her to talk about leaving, she had just finished working overtime for more than half a year, and the cumulative overtime time on the system was as high as 286 hours, "this is unloading and killing donkeys."

For more than a month, the drama of cajoling, threatening, grabbing mobile phones, calling the police, and cold violence took turns on her.

The first to appear was the personnel manager, he urged Wu Qian to hurry to the conference room on the work software, Wu Qian said that she would first deal with the urgent work at hand, but the personnel manager still urged non-stop, which made Wu Qian realize that the situation was not right, and she was ready to record.

The first interview, the atmosphere is quite friendly, the personnel manager said that he will transfer her to another department, "there has been no suitable people to recruit, I hope you go to help, and the workload is much smaller."

This made Wu Qian relax her vigilance, continuous overtime, has made her physically and mentally exhausted, a relaxed new position, very attractive, she took the initiative to cooperate with the handover, and even forgot to ask whether the salary and benefits were adjusted, "I did not think that the company had malicious intentions at that time." ”

But the handover speed is too fast, the morning conversation, before the end of the handover, Wu Qian felt wrong, "I will come back tomorrow, what are you afraid of?" ”

The direct leader directly pulled Wu Qian not to let go, wu Qian only then determined the company's malice, she resolutely refused to transfer.

After the two had been deadlocked for more than an hour, Wu Qian was able to withdraw and go home.

The next day, the personnel manager began to coerce and induce, first salute: "Why are you not willing to transfer again?" Worried about wages? The salary will not go down", see Wu Qian is not moved.

Hou Bing: "Little girl, I have seen a lot of people like you, don't think you want to make trouble, the company is very powerful, the relationship between a certain leader and the leader of a certain bureau is very good, eat together every day, you a girl from out of town don't know what to do."

Seeing that Wu Qian was soft and hard and did not eat, he said to the stall holder, "If you don't want to adjust, just stay, anyway, the company does not have to expel this kind of thing."

Wu Qian picked up the mobile phone video, and the personnel manager came to grab the mobile phone, "He grabbed my mobile phone and ran to the IT department to let my colleagues unlock it, but people did not want to participate in the farce."

The personnel manager accused Wu Qian of violating the right to portrait, and Wu Qian countered that he violently grabbed the mobile phone.

After two hours of stalemate, the personnel manager reported to the police, but the call was not 110, but the police leader's phone, and also instructed the other party to "don't make too much noise, afraid that the big leader will know."

Under pressure, Wu Qian had to delete the video recording in front of the police, but quietly prepared a copy.

As for the reason for forcing her to leave, Wu Qian had asked her direct leaders several times, but the latter was in a state of limbo.

Later, a colleague vaguely told Wu Qian that the initiator behind this scene was the financial director, "The director brought his own people to the company, and asked me to hand over the core work a few months ago, but I refused." But during that time, I was always very busy, and I needed to work overtime, so I didn't deal with me, and when I was finished, I began to deal with me," Wu Qian suddenly realized.

What makes Wu Qian even more angry is that the director never comes forward by himself, encounters Wu Qian directly avoids her eyes, and all actions rely on the department personnel manager, the right-hand man, "The personnel manager has always worshiped high and low, if the leader likes you, he will not be able to hold it, if the leader scolds you, he will immediately fall into the well." Usually I hate him, and he hates me. ”

The director avoids, the direct subordinate leaders are indifferent, the personnel manager falls into the well, and Wu Qian is isolated.

But in the whole conflict, Wu Qian never felt fear, "it is grievance, in the case of no mistakes in the work, I was transferred, and all my efforts were erased, saying that I could not do it and could not say where I could not do it." Aggrieved, uncomfortable, angry, unable to sleep, that time really almost depressed. ”

After that, the company knew that Wu Qian was a hard stubble, did not dare to interview again, and did not mention the transfer and handover, but banned her access control, took away the computer, and let Wu Qian empty sit at the workstation to play with the mobile phone.

This trick is very poisonous, but also a common means for enterprises to force employees to leave, on the surface do not violate labor laws, only wait for employees to survive.

Wu Qian was helpless, "I consulted a lawyer, but the company did not publicize, did not reduce wages, punched cards, wages did not affect, perfectly avoided the labor law." ”

But Wu Qian really couldn't swallow this breath, she wanted compensation, and she wanted to seek justice.

Colleagues came and went at the workstation, and she became helpless to do, and the strange eyes of others and the occasional sigh made Wu Qian feel like a needle. Occasionally, enthusiastic colleagues look at her pitifully and will help her open the door to meet her, but no one dares to communicate with her in the company.

Wu Qian, who was marginalized, after suffering for a month, was sure that she would not be able to get compensation, she could only start looking for a job, and after getting the ideal offer, she decisively left her job.

Unexpectedly, the company finally disgusted her and deducted half a month's salary, but Wu Qian did not want to worry about it, "The leader of the general manager office is right, if I encounter this kind of thing again, I will definitely not spend it with it, and really test my mentality." ”

Today's Wu Qian still has lingering feelings about that experience.

I will never disclose my pregnancy plans to the company again

Zhang Hui 28 years old Operation Has been employed for nearly 1 year

In July last year, Zhang Hui, who had just been transferred to a new post, was suddenly interviewed by her direct leaders, and as soon as she opened her mouth, she asked when she would leave her post, and Zhang Hui was unprepared and confused.

When she first joined the company, the company repeatedly confirmed the intention to have children, she did not hide it, and told the original leader that there was a pregnancy plan in the later stage, which buried the hidden danger.

The current leader is here for this reason: "I heard your former leader say that you plan to leave in July and August. ”

Zhang Hui clarified: "I said that I was planning to get pregnant, not resigning. If the body can bear to continue to work in the later stages of pregnancy, if it really can't bear it, you may consider leaving", in the face of sudden questioning, she did not have time to carefully organize the language.

The leader began to talk about performance: "The original leader said that I want you to leave your job before I want you, and then you usually do not perform well, and the salary is not low." ”

She was a little flustered.

The leader continued to exert pressure: "Why didn't the original leader keep you?" That means that you don't do a good job before you want to change groups, otherwise what do you do? ”

The leader was smiling and giggling and saying harsh words, which made Zhang Hui stunned.

She looked at her mobile phone and said that she would leave at the end of August, and the leader would not hesitate to "do it as soon as possible, find a job." ”

Soon the company arranged for her to hand over the work, leaving only the work of helping her colleagues with chores.

After this conversation, Zhang Hui regretted for a long time, "I was too honest, I reported the pregnancy plan with the original leader, and now I regret breaking my intestines".

Zhang Hui, who walked on thin ice, had confused thoughts, knowing that the company forced her to leave without compensation, and she was worried that people would speak softly, and if she found arbitration, the company would wear small shoes.

She went to the Internet to post for help, and actually attracted hundreds of messages, some with the same disease, some random tricks to make her get pregnant quickly, but almost all of them encouraged her not to give up compensation and insisted on using legal weapons to defend her rights and interests.

Zhang Hui was much more determined, and then the direct leaders, Hr, and directors took turns to talk and put pressure on 4 or 5 times, and the reasons for the dissuasion were all pulled to performance, and she was firm, "I never thought of taking the initiative to leave. First of all, the labor contract did not explain that I would be dissuaded if my performance was not up to standard, and secondly, even if there was such a point, I had to negotiate compensation before I could be dismissed. ”

She made a recording of every conversation, "normal commuting, a day's shift to pay a day, as long as I am not in a hurry, the one who is in a hurry is the leader."

It was more like self-consolation, in fact she was afraid of the company's means. After all, some companies on the Internet even dare to force pregnant women, and she has no bottom in her heart, and she can only take a step and look at one step at a time.

Glued for almost 1 month, the company's attitude finally relaxed, Hr said that it can compensate 0.5w, Zhang Hui's monthly salary of more than 8k, which is far from the "N +1" statutory compensation amount of nearly 1.7w, Zhang Hui categorically disagreed, "At the beginning I frankly said the pregnancy plan, did not secretly marry or even secretly conceive, but you forced me for this reason, if I continue to work, I can receive 2 ~ 3w maternity allowance in the later stage, 0.5w absolutely do not accept." ”

In the end, the company sent the original leader to coordinate, telling her that the company can compensate up to 1w, and it is estimated that it will go to court, and the court will not be able to solve it for a while and a half.

This time, Zhang Hui did not survive the "human affection", the original leader was still good to her, Zhang Hui did not want to embarrass him, and finally reluctantly accepted the compensation of 10,000 yuan, "I am afraid that I will not be able to eat good fruit if I continue." ”

The supervisor moved the workstation behind me so that he could find the stubble at any time

Tian Wenwen 28 years old The administrative front desk has been employed for 9 months

Tian Wenwen worked as a front desk for a large office property company in Guangzhou, and at the end of last year, due to the downturn in the entire real estate industry, she was also optimized by the company. At that time, she had just been employed for 9 months, with a salary of 5k, and according to Article 47 of the Employment Contract Law, the company should be compensated for one month's salary.

She is not the only one who has suffered this, some colleagues have been forced to retire during the probationary period, and the leader threatened during the interview, "I have a reason to say that your probationary period cannot pass." ”

When interviewed by the administrative supervisor, Tian Wenwen decisively opened the recording, "Although I have been mentally prepared, I still have a lot of collapse when I heard about the layoffs, and I kept crying." ”

The supervisor's rhetoric is grandiose: "The company wants to optimize, our department has indicators, you are the one being optimized." ”

Tian Wenwen asked, "Is this a layoff?" ”

The supervisor tried to confuse the concept: "It's not a layoff, the company gives you a month to find a job, during which you can take an interview and you can take a leave of absence." ”

Tian Wenwen asked how to calculate the compensation, the supervisor is soft and hard, "You have only been employed for more than half a year, the compensation is only a month's salary, and you have fallen out with the company, and your back adjustment may not look good." ”

This is a common technique of persuasion, in the name of the other side of the good to do things, some employees will buy it, after all, the future is more important than a month's salary.

But Tian Wenwen did not buy it, she felt absurd, "I have a front desk and what back tune?" Layoffs are the company's problem, why send me away with three words? ”

She later heard that a colleague accepted a one-month transition to find a job, but every time he went out for an interview, he was urged to come back to work, "fortunately, I didn't agree at the time." ”

During the second interview, she insisted that her claim was compensation and asked when the written termination notice would be given.

The supervisor said again, "The company just plans to coordinate your departure, not to dismiss you, there is no compensation statement." ”

"Since it is coordination, then I do not agree", Tian Wenwen did not regress.

In the afternoon of the same day, the supervisor forced Tian Wenwen to change his workstation and hand over the core work, on the grounds that "I know that you are in a bad mood, and you are responsible for sorting out the files this week."

Although the work content is different, but it is the scope of responsibility of the front desk, Tian Wenwen has no reason to refuse.

She tried her best to cooperate, not knowing that the company's cold violence had only just begun.

Tian Wenwen was assigned to a shared workstation, and others came to use the computer, and she had to let it out at any time. The supervisor even transferred the workstation to Tian Wenwen's back, staring at her all the time to find fault.

The whole department also guarded against her, the supervisor created a new department WeChat group, and also changed Tian Wenwen's original computer password, afraid that she would delete the data on impulse.

When she was about to leave work, the supervisor came to reprimand her again, "Shut down the computer before you leave work, aren't you afraid that I will count you out early?" At that time, Tian Wenwen just went to the bathroom, according to the company's regulations, leaving the workstation, he had to turn off the computer screen.

She was also kicked out of all work groups and even removed from attendance punching, and when she went to question, Hr claimed that it was an operation error.

The cold violence that swept over tian Wenwen angrily ran to the toilet and cried.

Most of the time, she chooses to turn a blind eye, coinciding with the difficulty of finding a job at the end of the year, and she wants to stay up until the spring season of the following year.

But she overestimated her endurance, and after more than a month, she accepted the company's conditions, "leaving in mid-January, and taking leave when there is an interview opportunity."

Now, Tian Wenwen still has not found a suitable job.

I was forced to leave my job twice a year, should I deserve it?

Linda 32 years old New Media Editor has been employed for more than 1 year

Forced to leave her job twice in a year, Linda has a shadow on finding a job, "It's been half a year, but it's still very depressing to think of that atmosphere, it's bad luck to meet once, is it my deserving to meet twice?" ”

At the end of March last year, the former owner's CEO suddenly summoned dozens of employees to join the new project and signed a "strange" agreement, which in addition to stipulating a new division of labor, there were also some bizarre clauses, "After signing, passports must be handed in, foreign spouses cannot be found, customs will leave names, and foreign companies cannot be sent..."

Most of these were selected as middle-level and over-40+ employees, and Linda was also accidentally selected.

But Linda has relatives abroad, these strange terms may have hidden dangers, intuition tells her that she can't sign, after the meeting she finds her direct superior to raise objections.

After the superiors said that there was no solution, the CEO personally came out, and the two finally broke out into a quarrel.

The CEO was furious, "If you are not happy, you should mention leaving." If you don't go away, you will be fired directly, and it will not affect you well when the time comes! ”

Linda didn't give in either, "There is a mistake and directly present evidence to fire me, no need to sit here and talk." ”

The CEO said contemptuously, "You have the ability to record." ”

The boss's arrogance made Linda feel broken, and for the next two days of stalemate, Linda suffered from insomnia, "suddenly forced to leave, no compensation, no next job." ”

At first, she wanted to fight for compensation, but under the pressure of the boss, she realized that the trend had gone, "The company is not afraid of litigation at all, some are time delays, but I still have to find the next job, and it is not good for me to carry it on." Friends also advised me to leave, don't waste it here. ”

Coupled with the team atmosphere of sneaking horses, she was tired, and she did not want to go around again.

Two months after leaving, she found a new job in the new media she wanted. As a result, the probationary period had not yet passed, and hr and project leaders were interviewed without warning.

The leader is righteous, "Your work is not viewed enough, it is not up to standard, you can find a job again." ”

Linda replied, "What exactly is the standard?" ”

The leader who was charged was angry, "Do you need a standard for eating bowls?" After so many years of doing what standards you yourself have not counted? ”

With her last experience in dismissal, Linda repeatedly insisted that the other party produce evidence that did not meet the employment criteria.

The leader followed the temptation, "Losing some money will not affect your back tune in the future." ”

Linda was indignant, "All I want is justice. ”

This time, she decided to die to the end.

After work that day, it was raining heavily, and Linda rushed to the subway station in the rain, remembering two bad experiences in a row, and she squatted in the subway and collapsed and cried.

Unexpectedly, the next day the leader compromised and took the initiative to say that he would compensate for a week's salary.

According to Article 47 of the Labor Contract Law, if an employee has worked in the employer for less than six months, he shall pay the employee a severance compensation for half a month's wage.

Although it is less than the law, Linda does not want to dwell on it, "In fact, employees do not have so many demands, the company's attitude can be reached, and after this matter, even if you keep it, you have to wear small shoes." ”

She doesn't think it's a victory for a personal confrontation, "it depends on who the person on the other side is, for example, the boss of the first company is too powerful, I really can't say." 」 ”

Now it is difficult to find a job, linda, who is fired twice a year, has lost her way, changed careers and does not know what to do, lies flat and has no money, and is caught in a tangle.

Recommendations

Given the complexity and differences of businesses and individuals, we cannot provide standard recommendations that can be fought over or compromised, and the pros and cons can only be weighed separately.

But at least the typical illegal behavior, the hitter can do it in mind.

Transfer

Malicious transfer is illegal and may be rejected. According to Article 35 of the Labor Contract Law, the transfer of posts must be agreed by the employee himself, and the company terminates the labor contract on this ground as an illegal act, and the employee may retain evidence such as audio recordings, chat records, and job transfer notices to claim compensation.

However, it should be noted that if the labor contract signed at the time of entry stipulates that the job can be transferred or the work place can be changed, then the law may not support the employee.

Discouraged on the grounds of incompetence in the job

The company's ability to work is not good, and it needs to be proved.

The Beijing Higher People's Court once ruled in a case in which the company adduced evidence that "Gao was not competent for the job and was still unqualified after training and re-examination", and the court held that "unqualified assessment does not necessarily mean that it is not competent for the work, but also depends on whether the assessment system is legal and reasonable".

It can be seen that when the court hears similar cases, it will also review the rationality of the company's rules and regulations, and the common last-place elimination system may not be reasonable and legal, because such an assessment standard is too single, and understanding this will not be easily deterred by the company.

(Jiang Shan, Fang Yu, Wu Qian, Zhang Hui, Tian Wenwen, Linda are pseudonyms)