Taking the lead in resisting overtime, I quit

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Author | Wang Lu, Zou Shuai, Wang Min, Tang Yahua

Edit | Wang Min

"Workers work hard overtime for a long time."

In the past few days, the rumored "China Electronics Department Overtime Incident" has finally reached a conclusion, and the police reported that the chat records were fabricated and the person concerned was administratively detained.

On April 4, the chat record of Chen Mou, a suspected employee of CETC, who was angry with the leader due to forced overtime, spread rapidly on the Internet. After the incident fermented, the relevant units of CETC quickly launched an investigation and reported the case. On April 7, the police reported that Chen had been dissatisfied with his previous job search for CETC and was dissatisfied, so he fabricated and produced a number of screenshots of WeChat chat records that "angered leaders and vented emotions".

The matter came to an end, but the matter of forced overtime resonated with the workers. Many people in the workplace have long hated long-term overtime and excessive overtime, but they have to endure it for various reasons such as life. However, some workers were the first to stand up and resist forced overtime.

Recently, Shen Ran chatted with several professionals who have led the resistance to overtime culture about their stories. Some of them, after having already found a new job, faced with the leader's requirement of mandatory overtime, directly opened and left the work group, and a series of actions were completed smoothly; Some people were also required to clock in on time because they worked overnight, and went directly to the leader's office to start arguing. Although he was also worried about being fired, he stayed because there was no one to replace his job.

When someone interns, the leader often organizes a meeting before leaving work, because he is not afraid of losing his job, takes the initiative to make suggestions, and brings regular employees with him; Some people can't complete overtime because the KPIs are too heavy, and the leader's feedback wants to reduce the intensity, but the leader believes that there is not enough overtime; There were also people who were fired not long after the work group refused Party A's overtime request, because of poor work attitude.

Here's their story.

Dare to intimidate leaders in the group because I have already received a new offer

Wu Yanzu|32 years old, Zhejiang engineering industry

There are relatives in the family who have just passed away, so I have already decided that I will visit the tomb on Qingming Day. The day before the holiday, the day was still normal, arrived at the company at 8 a.m., left work at 6 p.m., and after arriving home from work, the boss suddenly sent a message in the group, "Everyone should have swept the grave, arrange to work overtime tomorrow." ”

At this time, several colleagues complained in the small group, but no one in the company group dared to speak. I was about to leave my job, and I got an offer, so I wrote it and sent it out. "I received XX, tomorrow I will come to the company to sweep the tomb for XX, thank you for the cultivation of XX, so that I can come to the company to rest on the Qingming Festival." Please send me the resignation report and I will come and fill it out tomorrow. "XX is my boss's name.

I didn't have a momentary emotional outburst, but I was dissatisfied with the company's forced overtime for a long time. The company I work for is not small, with an annual output value of more than 100 million, but often overtime, and there is no overtime pay, can only be transferred, but the company's transfer needs to be approved by the boss, basically passed, the company's salary is not higher than the standard of peers.

Even during the Spring Festival, I worked overtime, once working overtime for nearly two weeks and staying up all night for four days. The source of overtime has a lot to do with the boss, likes to procrastinate, and often struggles with unimportant things. For example, in a project plan, the other party clearly proposed to reduce the offer, but the boss wanted to reach a contract by introducing the strength of the enterprise, wasting a lot of time, and he would revise the plan more than a dozen times, each time overturning the content of his previous decision.

After I posted that text in the company's office group, no one from the other colleagues spoke, only personnel private chat, I don't want to be impulsive. I can also understand the thoughts of my colleagues, after all, I have to eat mixed food, coupled with the bad employment situation, I still have to endure a little more if I don't find a good home, and if I don't plan to leave, I guess I will continue to endure. The next day, my colleagues basically went to work overtime.

In fact, if it were not for this matter, I would still be hesitant to leave, after all, I have worked in this company for 5 years, I have certain feelings, and I do technical work in a niche industry, the universality is very low, and it is difficult to use my work experience in my next job, so the interview has not hit a wall, and changing tracks is a challenge for me.

This experience will not affect my future career, and I will still take the lead in resisting long-term overtime, provided that I find my next home. When I look for a job in the future, I will list whether to work overtime as an important consideration, but as long as there is enough money, the company can also be my home.

I don't think there is a good way for professionals to work long-term overtime and take up vacation time when the company encounters them. In order to live, everyone has to choose to endure, because there are so many college students graduating every year, and the price is cheap.

After the Qingming holiday, I left my job and prepared to join the new company next week.

During the internship, the leader likes to have a meeting before leaving work, and I take the regular staff to leave work on time

Tama|27 years old Beijing Internet industry

In my senior year, I joined an Internet company as an operations intern. There were 4 people in our group plus me, 3 of them were full-time, two were at the same level, and the other was the leader of our entire department, she focused on leading our group, and 4 of us also sat together.

The work schedule was 9:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. My daily work content is relatively fixed, the maintenance of several communities, the distribution of content, and daily statistics. I live far away, leaving work at 6:30 and arriving home after 8 o'clock, so I start working efficiently every day when I arrive at the company, and I usually leave work on time.

We work overtime because the leader really loves to hold meetings and assign work during off-hours, and this method does not belong to the overtime within the scope of the company system, and there is no overtime pay. She is usually not at the work station, but will not come back until she is about to leave work, either suddenly there is an urgent matter for us to work overtime, or say "in a while we 4 people have a meeting", and then the person disappears again, sometimes it is not until seven or eight o'clock that she will call us to the conference room in the group. The content of the meeting is almost not focused, that is, asking how a project is doing, and she is a joker, and she starts making small talk as she talks.

Once, it was nearly 7 o'clock when I got up to leave work. The way I went out had to pass the leader's workstation, and she happened to come back, bumped into me head-on, and asked me, "Got off work?" I said yes, and then she looked at the other two and said, "You two work hard every day, she leaves work so early?" None of the three of us spoke, so I smiled and turned away.

That incident made me a little angry and made up my mind that I would definitely not work overtime next time. One Friday, before leaving work, the leader said to have a meeting at 7 o'clock. I knew that a regular colleague had an appointment in the evening, so I took the opportunity to ask her, "Can I not open?" After a while of discussion, we decided that I would start first, and she agreed.

Then I replied in the group, "Sister XX, I made an appointment in advance tonight, sorry I can't attend the meeting." The regular colleague immediately said, "I have something to do at night, or I will change the time." I followed up and said, "Sister XX, if I can, I hope that the evening meeting can be notified earlier, either the day before or the morning of the same day, so that we can arrange work in advance and not delay the meeting." ”

After that, there were a few times when she sent work before leaving work and asked us who would be okay in a while, and we all said that there was something to do, and we would deal with it tomorrow. She didn't say anything, gave herself the steps, and said, "No hurry." "The three of us also reached a tacit understanding, and I even took the initiative to help them do statistics, just to work together to leave work on time, and a few times before the leader returned to the workstation, we withdrew.

Now that I think about it, I'm an intern, I'm not afraid of losing my job, and it's okay for me to start with. I also understand the helplessness of my regular colleagues, and now that I am in the workplace, I also have to think carefully about the wording and consequences. Moreover, when refusing to work overtime, we should use affirmative sentences, not interrogative sentences, otherwise the leader will never know our dissatisfaction. Now, when I encounter the need for overtime, I will first ask myself if this class must be added, if I accept it myself, I will add it, otherwise I will refuse categorically like I did back then.

After working overnight and letting me clock in in the morning, I went directly to the boss's office Battle

Little Sugar|30 years old Beijing graphic design

I have been working in design since graduating from university, first in a big factory, but because I worked too much overtime, I left, and since then I have avoided going to the Internet industry. I have been in the financial industry, the medical industry, and currently work for an entertainment company for 5 months.

When I interviewed for this company, my boss told me that I would not work too much overtime, and this was indeed the case during the probationary period. However, since about January this year, all of a sudden, there has been more work, on the one hand, because the business is recovering after the epidemic has been released, and on the other hand, we originally had four designs, but they all left one after another, and all the workload was piled on me alone.

As a result, I could no longer commute to and from work on time, not only to go back late at night, but even to stay up all night once or twice a month. I remember the most crazy time was that at two o'clock in the afternoon the day before, I said that there was a PPT that needed to be beautified, and it was going to be made at noon the next day, I opened it and looked at it, there were more than 70 pages, and I didn't even have time to eat dinner when I went home at night, and it was changed to four or five o'clock the next morning.

My real outburst came in late March, when HR came to check with me again and asked me why I didn't arrive on time for a few mornings. The leader told me during the probationary period that if I worked overtime, I could not clock in on time, but he still instructed HR to ask me about attendance, and even said that it might affect my salary.

Although I was also afraid of being deducted from my salary, I was still angry, and went directly into the leader's office and said, "I want to talk about my attendance", obviously said before that if I work overtime, I don't have to clock in strictly, and I arrive 1 hour late in the morning, but I can work more than 1 hour after work in the evening.

I even said ruthlessly, "As long as you deduct my salary because of attendance, I will leave immediately." I had 8 jobs on my hands at the time, and I knew it would be difficult for the company to find the right person to replace me anytime soon. The leader did not give me the results directly at that time, and finally dispersed.

Recently just paid last month's salary, the company did not deduct my money, I am still continuing to work, in fact, I also thought about it, this job is not cost-effective, do I want to change a job directly, but because I will study abroad in the second half of the year, there are still three or four months, and it may not be easy to adapt to a job, I think I still have to insist.

In the past half a month, I have not rushed to do the work like before, and if I come to work too late in the evening, now I may directly pretend not to see it and start dealing with it after work.

My colleagues basically worked overtime until eleven or twelve o'clock the night before, and continued to clock in as usual the next morning, and they were dissatisfied with this state for a long time, and after learning that I was directly tough with the boss, they also told me, feeling that I said what they did not dare to say, and silently supported me behind my back.

I think that I dare to be this bird because my outlook on life is that work serves life, and I can't have life without work. This job doesn't work, it's a big deal to find another one.

Working hard overtime could not complete the heavy KPI, and I was fired after taking the initiative to give feedback

Li Yan|30 years old, Beijing, Internet practitioner

When I was in my last company, we didn't have to work overtime at first, but in order to strengthen management and assessment, our department leaders set relatively high KPIs for the people in our department, and in my opinion, these KPIs are a bit unrealistic and difficult to complete.

After the implementation of the new assessment system, six or seven people in our department began to work crazy overtime, and the original point of leaving became basically two or three hours of overtime every day, not to mention staying online at all times on weekends.

Under such high-intensity work, we are just able to complete the assessment indicators, if a certain week is a little slack, the KPI of the month will not meet the standard, resulting in the salary being deducted, if the standard is not met for three consecutive months, the leader will interview.

In fact, some colleagues in the department jokingly mentioned to the leader that the KPI is a bit heavy and there is too much overtime, but the leader thinks that this is normal, saying that he is also busy every day, and the workload is also very large, but it is still completed on time, and our KPI squeeze time can still be completed, euphemistically expressing the meaning of "must work overtime to complete the KPI".

I also worked very hard overtime at first, but then, for 1 month, although I worked hard, overtime, and did not complete the KPI, I myself was a little broken, I felt that my overtime work was not worth it, and the leader should not use such a high KPI to demand us.

Considering that the leader will talk to me sooner or later, I will "start first" and take the initiative to talk to the leader, saying that we work overtime a little seriously and the KPI setting is unreasonable, not only me, colleagues have this feeling, can you adjust it. Although I really didn't want to take the initiative to give feedback, the truth is that there was too much overtime, and I couldn't hold it a bit.

After listening to my feedback, the leader said, "I will consider it", I thought that the leader really took it to heart, but the truth is that the leader only felt that I did not work overtime enough.

Within a few days, HR came to talk to me and said that I was slack in my work and disobeyed the leadership, and I suddenly "exploded", thinking that this was not the case. Later, HR found a leader, the three of us confronted each other, and the leader also listed the bad points of my work in a special article, and listed a whole A4 paper. As a result, he said one thing, I retorted one, and HR didn't know how to reconcile.

When we were arguing, the partner of the company heard about this and came to the round, saying that he would understand the follow-up and let us go back to work first.

After this argument, two colleagues knew that I was resisting heavy KPIs and excessive overtime, and came to me for dinner in private, complaining that they worked too much overtime, but they did not dare to resist head-on and planned to leave.

I was still waiting for the results of the partner's processing, and I also expected that I might need to leave and leave, but I felt that I was doing the right thing, and I still had a glimmer of hope, and after waiting for about a week, the partner talked to me, feeling that after I had a conflict with the leader, the work was not very harmonious, or it was better for me to leave.

In terms of results, this revolt ended in my defeat. But I don't regret it, if I continue to work overtime at high intensity and fail to achieve the KPI, I will definitely not be able to persevere. But next time, in a similar situation, I may try to avoid standing up first and resist and reduce the frontal conflict.

I refused Party A's request for overtime, and the boss fired me

Sample|24 years old, Guizhou Province, advertising industry practitioner

At the end of December last year, Party A asked me to post something in their marketing group at 10 a.m. on New Year's Day, I was "yang" at that time, I wanted to rest well, this is not my job, I said to Party A very tactfully, "I haven't done this kind of work before, I'm worried that it won't be handled well, or your side of the organization is better." ”

Our boss was also in the docking group with Party A, and when he saw that I rejected Party A, the boss immediately called me to criticize me, and then handed over the project to a colleague. By mid-January, another project I had taken on expired and had not been renewed, and I had no project.

The boss talked to me and said that my work attitude was poor, and the company's other projects did not dare to do it for me, and he wanted to fire me and pay me an extra month's salary. I did not accept it and asked for dismissal to give me N+1 compensation.

He did not agree, so he sent me a notice of dismissal, and what was even more unbearable was that the reason for the dismissal was that I had affected the renewal of the project, and the professionalism was not enough and did not meet the company's requirements. But in fact, I refused to work overtime, and the project had already been renewed, and there had been no unhappiness in the project that was not renewed. I refuted to my boss at that time, he said that he could provide evidence, and I took the notice of dismissal to labor arbitration. They were informed by the arbitration side that they were not willing to mediate. There is no trial yet, and news is still awaited.

This refusal to work overtime is actually an accumulation of my dissatisfaction with the company's long-term overtime. Our daily work is basically normalized overtime, and the requirements put forward by Party A, whether they belong to our work or not, can they be done, and the boss will agree. Although sometimes I work overtime until 12 o'clock at night, and I can arrive at the company a little later the next day, but when others go to work in the morning, I have to work on my mobile phone.

There is also no fixed time to leave work every day, and from time to time it is necessary to go until eight or nine o'clock in the evening, twelve o'clock or even later. Sometimes Party A gives a demand after work, and when it leaves work the next day, the boss will let us work overtime that day to make it first. Once Party A had a need after work on Friday, I asked if it was okay to give a plan next Monday, and the other party said yes, but the boss still found an opportunity to criticize me afterwards.

In fact, I have already done a lot of things in this job that are not within my responsibility, but at the end of the year, my boss said that you did not do well in the past year. Said a good 13 salary, because the company's performance is not good, only sent me 1,000 yuan, I heard that some positions are 4,000-6,000 yuan.

I think that beating a worker is to take how much money to do, do a good job to leave a trace, and take up the legal weapon to protect yourself when your rights and interests are infringed.

I think whether to refuse overtime depends on the personal situation and the stage of your career, if you really need this job, or this job can bring great growth, you can accept overtime. If you don't learn much in a job, the salary is not high, there is no overtime pay and no rest, and you work meaningless shifts all day, there is no need to spend it. You can refuse to work overtime, but thinking that refusing to work overtime is likely to mean losing the job.

*The title picture is from "I, get off work at the point". At the request of the interviewee, Wu Yanzu, Tama, Xiao Sugar, Li Yan, and Xiao Zan are pseudonyms in the text.