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Geely is going to make a shot at the M9, with 116 more horsepower, and the acceleration may break 4 seconds?

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Geely is going to make a shot at the M9, with 116 more horsepower, and the acceleration may break 4 seconds?

Before the Beijing Auto Show, Geely threw out a promotional image of a concept car.

This will be a large-sized SUV model, but no specific information has been announced, including the interior layout, three-electric system, and intelligent configuration. What can be known is that this is the flagship model of the Geely Galaxy series, and according to the naming rules of the Geely Galaxy, this car may be named "Geely Galaxy L9". According to Geely's planning, the powertrain of this car will be a plug-in hybrid system, and pure electric power should not exist.

The size of this car has come to about 5.2 meters, and it may be longer than 5.2 meters, and it is positioned in a large SUV or a full-size SUV. At the intelligent level, there is no relevant information about the lidar configuration on the body (concept car), but there is a configuration equipped with an electronic rearview mirror, according to the positioning, the configuration of the intelligent level of this car should be full, but without lidar, it is likely that a pure visual version will be used to do intelligent driving.

In short, there is relatively little information about this car now, but it can be combined with the existing technology of Geely Galaxy to speculate a general situation about this car.

Intelligent driving, unlocking urban NOA?

Geely is going to make a shot at the M9, with 116 more horsepower, and the acceleration may break 4 seconds?

Geely Galaxy series with the possibility of multi-lidar configuration,Basically no,At most, it is the configuration of camera + millimeter wave radar;If possible,Only 1 lidar。 Now the price range of Geely Galaxy is 103,800-228,800 yuan, and the price range of this Geely Galaxy flagship SUV model is likely to be around 250,000 yuan. And this price range basically negates that there will be room for multiple lidars to get on the car.

The existing Geely Galaxy models with lidar are only the Galaxy E8 priced at 218,800 yuan.

However, with the positioning of the flagship model, the Geely Galaxy, a large-size SUV, may use intelligent perception devices will also be adjusted. At the very least, the number of perception cameras will increase to no less than 10 and a maximum of 12 due to the expansion of the size, and the number of millimeter-wave radars can remain unchanged to 5, and then equipped with 1 lidar. This set of perception configuration can basically cover the environment around the vehicle.

Geely is going to make a shot at the M9, with 116 more horsepower, and the acceleration may break 4 seconds?

If there is a lidar on the car, it is very likely to use ECARX's products, 192-line semi-solid-state or 150-line all-solid-state lidar, both of which cost basically 1,000 yuan. The detection distance is 180 meters for the former and 50 meters for the latter (blind lidar), so if you get on the car with a high probability, it should be a 192-line semi-solid-state lidar.

At the level of intelligent driving chips, after ECARX released a new intelligent driving chip, the performance surpassed that of the NVIDIA Orin-X chip, so there is a high probability that the Longying AD1000 chip with 7nm process may be on the new Geely Galaxy model. The computing power of a single chip has come to the premise of 256TOPS, and with the configuration of multiple cameras + 1 lidar, it is enough to run through the L2-level function of urban + high-speed NOA (ZEEKR already has the function of urban NOA, and the software algorithm is opened up and reused, and this possibility is also there).

Can models without lidar have urban NOAs?

Geely is going to make a shot at the M9, with 116 more horsepower, and the acceleration may break 4 seconds?

This possibility is relatively low, with camera + millimeter wave radar to make a high-speed NOA function is relatively simple, as long as you follow the map, identify the front and rear and side models, ramps, you can achieve the approximate function. If both lidar and pure vision solutions support urban NOA, then two sets of algorithms are needed to support it, and two sets of algorithms are opened for one car to use, and it is not realistic to have R&D costs + personnel costs.

From this point of view, the ability of this car at the level of intelligent driving may be that the lidar version has urban + high-speed NOA, and the non-lidar version only has a pure visual high-speed NOA function. This is also a more reasonable configuration, after all, the positioning is not high, and the large-size plug-in hybrid SUV of about 200,000 can support high-speed NOA, which is very cost-effective.

Geely is going to make a shot at the M9, with 116 more horsepower, and the acceleration may break 4 seconds?

Of course, the version that unlocks the urban NOA will also be lethal in the same price range. In fact, the highlight or core point of this car may be in the cockpit system, for the following reasons:

  1. Door design (concept car design, mass production I don't know if it will be retained);
  2. The large size brings space flexibility and enough space for the in-car entertainment system;
  3. The e-mirror may work together with multiple screens in the car;
  4. The Galaxy N OS system with the 8295 chip has not run full of performance on the existing Galaxy series models;
  5. In terms of AI interaction of voice, there will be something new, which is likely to be a generative AI voice model.

Visually,This car will be about 250,000 products with a better degree of intelligence,The upper limit does not need to be expected,You can look forward to what its lower limit capacity is,It is expected that the cockpit8295chip will become standard,And then with the collaboration of multiple screens,The playability of the intelligent cockpit will be significantly improved。

Power system, must be dual motors for four-wheel drive?

Geely is going to make a shot at the M9, with 116 more horsepower, and the acceleration may break 4 seconds?

According to Geely Galaxy's planning, it is very likely that this car will not come out with a pure electric version. The most likely to get on the car will be the power combination of 1.5T engine + 3DHT gearbox + battery pack. The upgrade point should be the specification of the power battery, and the engine and transmission hardware will theoretically not change significantly.

Judging by L113, what will be the driving force?

The L113 is just a design detail on the exterior of the body, the distance between the wheel arch and the accelerator pedal, in a sense, the shorter the L113, the more space in the car, and conversely, the longer the L113, the less space in the car. And this concept can also be used to speculate what kind of powertrain this car uses. Judging from the pictures, the L113 of this car is not too long for a large-size SUV, but a more reasonable length, referring to the L113 length of the M9. And this short L113 design, unless it is the use of a range extension system with a gearboxless design, the design of a transverse engine + gearbox can also achieve such an effect.

Geely is going to make a shot at the M9, with 116 more horsepower, and the acceleration may break 4 seconds?

The design of the short L113 is to eat the dividends of the transverse engine, if the longitudinal engine is coupled with the gearbox, the L113 will be longer, and at the same time, it will further "eat" the space in the car.

Then there will be people who will mention whether the 2.0T engine will be used in this car. This has to be talked about in combination with cost and pricing, the 2.0T engine used by ZEEKR can be matched with the 3DHT system to do plug-in hybrid (EM-P), which can be completely copied, but if you do this, the cost control and pricing advantage will become smaller.

For large-size models, the battery size must be increased, and the battery pack of about 9-18kWh is commonly used in the existing Galaxy L series products. The direction of the upgrade will be about 40kWh, and the pure electric range will be about 280km.

Geely is going to make a shot at the M9, with 116 more horsepower, and the acceleration may break 4 seconds?

At the motor level, if you want to drive the power performance of large-size SUVs, the single-motor configuration will inevitably suffer, which will be reflected in the speed increase and high-speed fuel consumption. Therefore, the optimal solution at the motor level of this car must be equipped with a dual-motor four-wheel drive system, and the existing available solutions have a set of dual-motor combinations with a total power of 475kW, and the possibility of acceleration performance within 4 seconds after using this set of motors is greater.

Now it is still difficult to see through the specific materials and configuration of this car at the level of three electrics, and the possibility of new motor applications is not ruled out, but according to the plan, it will be a product that will be listed in 2025, and this publicity node may be accelerated to be released in 2024, if so, the possibility of copying the Galaxy E8 high-power motor combination is very large.

There are many details left, and we will see you at the Beijing Auto Show.

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