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Liu Ye was regarded as an "outlier" because of his birth, and suggested that Liu Bei be destroyed, but he may not understand Cao Cao's thoughts

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Cao Cao was able to establish his own foundation in the chaotic world of the Eastern Han Dynasty, inseparable from the two groups of Wen and Wu, that is, the Ruying Counselor Group and the Yu Pei Wu General Group, which ensured that Cao Cao could guarantee the correct development direction in the chaos, and could also ensure that the big battle could be won, and among the strategists under Cao Cao, there were always some special cases, such as the well-known poisoner Jia Xu, if nothing else, the trick of plotting to let Li Daoguo lead the troops to attack Chang'an was really too poisonous, so Jia Xu had actually been very peaceful after returning to Cao Cao's camp, there was a counselor. Because his origin is somewhat sensitive, plus he is not a member of the Ruying Group, he is used and guarded by three generations of the Cao family, and the element of prevention is more, this person is Liu Ye.

Liu Ye was regarded as an "outlier" because of his birth, and suggested that Liu Bei be destroyed, but he may not understand Cao Cao's thoughts

Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Biography of Liu Ye Liu Ye Zi Yang, Huainan Chengde people, Yi Yin De. Han GuangWuzi Fuling King Postponed also.

Liu Ye Yangzhou people, but also the descendants of the Han family, his origin makes his life's career slightly sad, in the chaotic world of the Eastern Han Dynasty, he has three choices, the first is obscure, living in seclusion, the second is Kuang Fu Han Room, taking Liu Bei's route, the third is to assist the Ming Lord, to calm the chaotic world here, obviously he chose the latter, but the problem is that Cao Cao used the name of the Han Room to conquer the princes, even if Cao Cao himself did not want to usurp Han, but most of his descendants, Most of cao Cao's clique has the intention of usurping Han, then Liu Ye, the figure of the Han Dynasty' relatives, In the Cao Wei group can only be regarded as "outliers", everywhere is excluded, so Liu Ye has also become the most bizarre counselor, Cao Cao's side of most of the counselors' biographies are recorded, their own plot was adopted played a key role, but Liu Ye is powerful, his biography, most of the records are, his suggestions are denied, Cao Cao Pi a temperament, in the face of Liu Ye is "I do not listen, I do not listen."

At the beginning of the chaos in the Eastern Han Dynasty, Liu Ye was blackmailed by the local Zheng Bao, hoping that Liu Ye would assist him, Liu Ye naturally did not want to mix with this nameless generation, but helpless people had soldiers, and in the end he used a ruse to kill Zheng Bao, the process was not important, the important thing was that he accepted, Zheng Bao's part, Liu Ye briefly mastered a unit that nominally belonged to him in his life.

Liu Ye was regarded as an "outlier" because of his birth, and suggested that Liu Bei be destroyed, but he may not understand Cao Cao's thoughts

Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Liu Ye's biography "Ye soothes and comforts, Xian Xi is pleased, and Push Ye is the mainstay. Ye saw that the Han Room was gradually weakening, and he was already a subordinate, and he did not want to support the army, so he entrusted his subordinates and Lujiang Taishou Liu Xun.

At that time, Liu Ye did not command this army himself, saying that the Han Dynasty was approaching, this was the mandate of heaven, with these people defected to Liu Xun, at first glance Liu Ye really "people and animals are harmless", properly without ambition, so it is a big mistake to think, to know that these people are Zheng Bao's old department, only temporarily forced to obey Liu Ye due to the situation, Liu Ye's family assets are not strong, can not afford to raise this army, so there will inevitably be a mutiny, If Liu Ye takes over this army is a big fool, but it is different to take people to Liu Xun. Liu Ye had the capital to defect to Liu Xun, and Liu Xun was also the most suitable person for Liu Ye to defect at that time, and Zheng Bao's old department became Liu Ye's entry ticket to Liu Xun's group.

It's just that Liu Xun is not a male lord, or a person who covets small profits and has no vision.

Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Liu Ye's biography xun asked him why, and said: "Although the shangzhi is small, the city is strong and deep, it is difficult to attack and easy to defend, and it is not easy to move every day, then the soldiers are tired outside, and the domestic is empty." If you take advantage of the void and attack me, you can't stay alone. It is the general who surrenders to the enemy and retreats with nowhere to go. If the army will come out, the disaster will come to an end."

"The Biography of Jiang Biao" Jian'an three years of policy, pseudo and Xun Hao alliance. Xun Xin obtained the shu crowd, and shi Yuzhang's Family of the Emperor Wan yu was in Jiangdong, and advised Xun to attack it. Xun Had done so, and the light army attacked the Lu River in the morning and night, and the Xun people surrendered, and Xun Du and hundreds of people under his command returned to Cao Gong.

Liu Ye was regarded as an "outlier" because of his birth, and suggested that Liu Bei be destroyed, but he may not understand Cao Cao's thoughts

To put it simply, it was Sun Ce who played tricks, spent money to let Liu Xun go to the rear, and then took the opportunity to raid Liu Xun's rear, when Liu Ye was bitterly persuading Liu Xun, the result of Liu Xun, a financial fan, could not listen to it, and was taken by Sun Ce, and then Liu Xun could only turn to Cao Cao, which was the third year of Jian'an, that is, the year when Cao Cao destroyed Lü Bu and gradually pacified Xuzhou, after which Cao Cao's focus was to die with the Yuan clique in the north, but Liu Ye did not participate in the stage of the most critical 7 years of the rise of the Cao clique to pacify the Yuan clique. Cao Cao left it out in the cold, probably for more than a decade.

Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Liu Ye's biography "Taizu to Shouchun, when there was a mountain thief Chen Ce in the Lujiang River, tens of thousands of people, guarding in the face of danger... Taizu also made Sikong Cangcao.

This is the Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Liu Ye's biography in the "invisible" after Liu Ye defected to Cao Cao for many years of historical records, obviously this is Cao Cao completely pacified the Yuan clique before going south, that is to say, at least twelve years after Jian'an, at this time, Cao Cao led the army to the south, when dealing with Chen Ce, asked Liu Ye, after pacifying Chen Ce, Liu Ye was requisitioned by Cao Cao, for Liu Ye who wanted to make a difference, it was impossible to retire himself, did not want to be requisitioned by Cao Cao, can only say that Cao Cao deliberately did not reuse him, but in the later period of Cao Cao, The original strategist team was almost withering away, so Liu Ye gradually approached Cao Cao's strategist class.

Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Seventeen years of Xun Yu's biography... He would enlist Sun Quan and ask yu Laojun to stay in Yu Yu, because he stayed behind, to serve guanglu doctor to hold the festival and join the military of Cheng Xiang. Taizu Jun to The Beard, Yu Disease stayed in Shouchun.

Romance of the Three Kingdoms. The Biography of Cheng Yu is the later Middle Xia gradually flattened, and Taizu Yu said: "The defeat of Yanzhou, without the words of the king, why did I come to this point?" The Zongren conferred cattle wine assembly, Yu Said: "Contentment is not disgraceful, I can retire." It is a self-imposed return to the soldiers, and the door is closed.

Liu Ye was regarded as an "outlier" because of his birth, and suggested that Liu Bei be destroyed, but he may not understand Cao Cao's thoughts

Guo Jia died early, Xun Yu died of illness because he did not approve of Cao Cao's claim that Wang was "accidentally", Cheng Yu was suppressed by Cao Cao before the Battle of Chibi, and it was in this situation that Liu Ye was activated by Cao Cao and entered the Counselor Group of the Cao Clique. And Liu Ye's participation in the war for Hanzhong was extremely high, and Liu Ye's performance was doomed to be that he would not be truly valued by the Cao clique.

Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Liu Ye's biography "It is better to attack." So they entered the army and fired more crossbows to shoot their battalions. Lu Ben, Hanzhong Suiping.

At that time, Cao Cao's conquest of Zhang Lu was blocked by his first Zhang Wei, coupled with the precarious terrain of The land of Hanzhong, Cao Wei's superior cavalry was difficult to exert its might, and there were problems with logistics supplies, so Cao Cao wanted to retreat, and Liu Ye only suggested just four words, Cao Cao agreed, the record of the Three Kingdoms Chronicle may be a little too brief, if this way Cao Cao will not retreat, personally I agree with another theory, that is, in the process of Cao Jun's retreat, because some Cao Jun's generals mistakenly entered Zhang Wei's camp in the dark night, causing a great disturbance in Zhang Wei's army, Cao Jun took the opportunity to attack, Only after taking Hanzhong, this is not important, what is important is Cao Cao's attitude towards Liu Bei after taking Hanzhong.

After Liu Bei took Yizhou, Cao Cao decisively took Hanzhong, like a sword hanging over Liu Bei's head, which can be said to have achieved its strategic purpose, and the two masters around Cao Cao at that time, namely Sima Yi and Liu Ye, both advised Cao Cao to take advantage of the situation to invade Yizhou and destroy Liu Bei, and it was Sima Yi who advised him first.

Liu Ye was regarded as an "outlier" because of his birth, and suggested that Liu Bei be destroyed, but he may not understand Cao Cao's thoughts

Book of Jin. Emperor Xuan's Chronicle begins with Zhang Lu and says to Wei Wuyue: "Liu Bei deceived Liu Zhang, and the Shu people did not attach themselves to Jiangling, and this opportunity must not be lost." Now, in the middle of the Wei Han Dynasty, Yizhou is shaken, and the army is approaching, and it is bound to disintegrate. Therefore, it is easy to be skilled. A saint cannot violate the time, nor can he lose the time." Wei Wuyue: "Man is bitter and has no feet, he has long right, and he wants to regain Shu!" Words don't follow.

Sima Yi's words, Cao Cao did not listen, but also expressed the meaning of people to be content, Sima Yi should know the meaning behind Cao Cao, so there was no more advice, but Liu Ye could not bear it, he also advised Cao Cao to take the opportunity to destroy Liu Bei and avoid future troubles, he may not have considered why Cao Cao did not listen to Sima Yi's advice, even if Liu Ye advised, even if he said the flowers, the core of which was still inseparable from Liu Bei's entry into Yizhou, people's hearts were unstable, could Cao Cao not know?

Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Liu Ye biography Liu Bei, Ren Jie also, there is a degree and late, the Shu day is shallow, the Shu people are not ashamed. In the present broken Han Dynasty, the Shu people were terrified, and their momentum tilted themselves. The gods of the public, because they are crushed by it, are all invincible... Taizu does not follow.

Why did Cao Cao not go far to fight Liu Bei? Doesn't he understand raising tigers? Did he lack the decisiveness of the first time? It should be known that although there is also danger in capturing Hanzhong and attacking Liu Bei, the degree of crisis is far less than that of Jian'an during the Northern Expedition to Wuhuan in the twelfth year.

Liu Ye was regarded as an "outlier" because of his birth, and suggested that Liu Bei be destroyed, but he may not understand Cao Cao's thoughts

Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Emperor Wu's Chronicle of the Emperor wu was a great man. The bus is heavy in the rear, and there are fewer people who are armoured, and both left and right are afraid.

The "Biography of Cao Cai" was cold and dry, there was no water for two hundred miles, the army was short of food, thousands of horses were killed for food, and the ground was chiseled into more than thirty zhang to get water.

At that time, Cao Cao was in order to completely eliminate the Yuan clique, under the premise that most of his subordinates did not support that military operation, only Guo Jia supported it, Cao Cao dared to march north, so when it came to the issue of treating Liu Bei after the capture of Hanzhong, was Cao Cao old? Obviously, without the strength of the northern expedition to Wuhuan, Liu Ye did not seem to have thought about this problem.

We put the time before and after Cao Cao's conquest of Zhang Lu and we will find out why Cao Cao did not want to fight Liu Bei, Cao Cao's conquest of Zhang Lu was Twenty-two Years of Jian'an, the time was pushed forward, Jian'an Eighteen Years, Cao Cao was crowned as the Duke of Wei, the establishment of the State of Wei, the time was pushed back, Jian'an twenty-one years, that is, after taking Hanzhong, Cao Cao was named the King of Wei, and the usurpation of Han was only one step away. Therefore, Cao Cao did not fight Liu Bei in old age, nor was he indecisive, but his focus was on "back" rather than "front", and Liu Bei competed for Yizhou, there was indeed an objective probability of defeating Liu Bei, but what if the war lasted, the main force was deep in the Hanzhong line of Yizhou, and what to do if there was chaos in the rear, when Cao Cao first fought Ma Chao, Hejian Tianyin and Su Bo rebelled, causing "You and Ji fan movements", Cao Cao almost did not directly lead the army back to quell the rebellion, and even Cao Ren in the south was recruited to the north to put down the rebellion, if he and Liu Bei died in Yizhou What if similar unrest occurs in the rear?

Liu Ye was regarded as an "outlier" because of his birth, and suggested that Liu Bei be destroyed, but he may not understand Cao Cao's thoughts

So during that time, the most important thing for Cao Cao was not to expand the territory, the power of the Cao clique was already large enough, as long as the strength was accumulated, the time problem when unifying the world, and the people's hearts were the most difficult for Cao Cao to recover, then running the Wei state and weakening the influence of the Han chamber was the most important thing that Cao Cao needed to do at the end of the period, since he had already taken Hanzhong and occupied a geographical advantage that could threaten Liu Bei, it was okay, Cao Cao naturally did not want to fight with Liu Bei again, and the later Battle of Hanzhong was also initiated by Liu Bei, and Cao Cao belonged to the passive response.

Under this premise, Liu Ye's suggestion naturally made Cao Cao even more suspicious, after all, Liu Ye could never get rid of the identity of a descendant of the Han Dynasty, even if Liu Ye was really bold and loyal and made correct suggestions for the country, but the question was, the country worth Liu Ye's contribution was the Han Room or the State of Wei? Liu Ye did not give Cao Cao an answer.

On the seventh day of the reign of Fu Zi, the Shu descender said, "Shu Zhong was shocked by dozens of shocks a day, and although he was prepared to cut it off, he could not rest in peace." Taizu Yan asked Ye Yue, "Is it still possible to strike now?" Ye Yue: "Now that it has been decided, it is not yet possible to strike." The army returned.

When some of the Shu people who escaped said that Liu Bei had killed some of the panicked people, cao Cao asked Liu Ye if he could still beat Liu Bei? Liu Ye said that he could not fight, this answer was a little vague, so that Cao Cao did not understand Liu Ye's meaning, perhaps Cao Cao wanted Liu Ye to say the meaning of stabilizing the rear, but Liu Ye still only said the front line, for Cao Cao, the things on the front line in Hanzhong are small things, and the time in the rear is a big thing.

Liu Ye was regarded as an "outlier" because of his birth, and suggested that Liu Bei be destroyed, but he may not understand Cao Cao's thoughts

Besides, after only 7 days, even if Liu Bei really used killing to temporarily quell the unrest in Yizhou, is this considered "Xiao Ding"? But when Cao Cao's army entered Yizhou, those who disobeyed Liu Bei would immediately help Cao Cao deal with Liu Bei, Liu Ye used this excuse to say that he could not be requisitioned, perhaps he also sensed Cao Cao's meaning by this time, but did not support Cao Cao's claim to the throne, so he chose an excuse and retired.

This is also my personal point of view, Cao Cao has always been very jealous of the identity of Liu Ye's descendants of the Han family, the more talented Liu Ye is, the more defensive Cao Cao will be, and at the same time, Liu Ye's interpersonal circle is not good, "Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Liu Ye's biography of Ye ye in the dynasty, slightly not handed over to the people at the time. Obviously, it is difficult to integrate with Cao's Ruyin group, Cao Pi Cao Rui is also defensive about Liu Ye, Liu Ye also often refutes Cao Pi's strategy, personally feel that Liu Ye is isolated by Cao Cao and The Ruying group because of his birth, so even if he is the elder of the Three Dynasties of Cao Wei, although he has repeatedly put forward correct suggestions, but most of them are not adopted, and in order to enter the ranks of the Three Dukes and Nine Secretaries, it is appropriate to use "heterogeneous" to describe his position in the Cao clique.

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