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There is a right and wrong grudge between Shen Guosun and Chen Zude

author:A millennium of fantasy

From 1992 to 2002, Chen Zude, who served as the president of the Chinese Chess Academy and the president of the China Weiqi Association, was the decision-maker and actual head of the Chinese Weiqi.

There have always been some voices of Shen Guosun on the Internet, exposing his various disagreements with Chen Zude. But for a long time, he was alone in talking to himself, but in April 2002, after Chen Zude made the decision to retire early, Nie Weiping suddenly said an intriguing statement to the media, saying: "Chen Zude has done some work for more than a decade, but the level of Chinese Go may have dropped a little." This remark immediately caused an uproar.

Shen Guosun was finally no longer fighting alone.

There is a right and wrong grudge between Shen Guosun and Chen Zude

Chen Zude

There is no unprovoked love in this world, nor is there unprovoked hatred, frankly speaking, Chen Zude and Shen Guosun have contradictions, and they are very deep, of course, Chen Zude and Nie Weiping are also contradictory.

Chen Zude, as one of the main decision-makers of Chinese Go, has gone through more than ten years, and for such a long time, some people have questioned him, standing on his opposite side, how to say it is a normal thing, who has not yet put an opponent?

Therefore, Shen Guosun and Nie Weiping staged a good scene of double ghosts shooting the door, which is also an inevitable result.

First of all, Shen Guosun is not accustomed to some of Chen Zude's practices and style of behavior, which will be described in detail later.

First of all, the contradiction between Nie Weiping and Chen Zude, Nie Weiping is nine years younger than Chen Zude, usually the top of the team, living together in the collective dormitory, Nie Weiping only likes to read Go books, other books do not read at all, and Chen Zude loves to read books, privately has many literary masterpieces, once, Nie Weiping's friend Jiang Mou came to visit the door, this person also knows Luo Jianwen, he saw a certain literary masterpiece belonging to Chen Zude, and as a result, he proposed to borrow it, Nie Weiping borrowed this book from Chen Zude, Jiang said that he would definitely pay it back, but he would not die. Later, Jiang Mou told that the book was lost, Nie Weiping had to confess this matter to Chen Zude, Chen Zude's world famous works, during the Cultural Revolution, belonged to forbidden books, there was no place to buy, so Chen Zude was very angry, he said two words to Nie Weiping," "hooligan", and also hit Nie Weiping in anger, Nie Weiping, who had just been scolded and beaten at the beginning, had to endure, just because of the loss, but you can't fight endlessly, so it evolved into a mutual beating, Nie Weiping's counterattack was very rough and wild, So the friendship boat of the two people was declared over because of this disappeared book, and there was no interaction between Nie Weiping and Chen Zude in life in the future, and the future exchanges were all working relationships.

There is a right and wrong grudge between Shen Guosun and Chen Zude

Shen Guosun

Chen Zude usually wears a pair of glasses, polite and polite, a humble gentleman's style, if he comes to you, it is really a Confucian demeanor, between the hands and feet like a spring breeze, this may be chen Zude's first impression left by many people.

Before his term of office, the Chinese Go community has gradually surpassed Japanese Go, at least the Chinese Go community believes so, the landmark event is that Nie Weiping led the Chinese Go team to win three Sino-Japanese Go tournaments, but since the first year of International Go (1988), Japanese Go has won consecutive championships, South Korean Go has risen strongly, but Chinese Go has become a vulnerable group.

In the more than ten years of Chen Zude's leadership, the Chinese Go community has won few individual world championships, only three times, namely Ma Xiaochun's double title in 1995 and Yu Bin's LG Cup in 2000.

Therefore, Nie Weiping's statement that China's Go score has declined is not entirely unreasonable.

Someone confessed: I don't like Lao Nie, he has been living in the halo of applause and flowers, resulting in an extremely self-righteous personality, it is recommended to see a psychologist. Mr. Chen Zude is highly respected, has high moral character, and has moral articles, all of which are first-class and have extraordinary chess skills. The level of Chinese Go has declined, should you nie be responsible?

The last sentence is equivalent to throwing the pot for the leader.

Nie Weiping alone has three times when the world champion has fallen, and the first world runner-up was also a breakthrough achievement in the Chinese Go world at that time. And Nie Weiping also has his own contribution, he cleared many obstacles for his teammate Ma Xiaochun in the 6th Toyo Securities Cup, ensuring the success of the Chinese Go industry.

During Chen Zude's tenure, there are two things worth mentioning, one is that Qian Yuping abstained after winning the final right to the Fujitsu Cup in 1992, there are many versions of this matter, there are many opinions, I only believe that I think the most reliable version, that is, Qian Yuping suddenly fell ill some time before the decisive battle, and when he was ill, he had a headache and could not think at all. In addition, Qian Yuping has a strange theory, that is, if I don't go down, I don't lose. He uses this to escape reality and stress. This theory is weird, a bit like an ostrich. In short, he is sick and can't go to the competition, no one can persuade him, you can't always send a person with a sick mind to Japan to fight Zhao Zhixun.

There is a right and wrong grudge between Shen Guosun and Chen Zude

Qian Yuping

Another thing is the "fake chess" scandal that broke out in the Weibei Tournament on April 9, 2001, in the sixth round of the zhejiang team and Jiangsu team, Zhejiang Xinhu team chess player and coach Chen Linxin through the Jiangsu team coach Ding Bo instructed The young chess player Liu Xi of the Jiangsu team to deliberately concede defeat, the win or loss of this game affected the outcome of the Zhejiang team, the Hong Kong team, the Beijing Beixin team who eventually rushed into the first division team, so the impact is far-reaching, the nature of the matter is very bad. This is a major event that shakes the fundamentals of the Go movement, after the incident, Liu Xi admitted his mistake, in the end he was only an executor, so Zude's leadership, in line with the principle of punishing the former and curing the disease and saving people, did not deal with Liu Xi, and said "Liu Xi has no responsibility, he is a good child." Chen Linxin and Ding Bo took passive resistance to resist the opportunity of the organization to save, Chen Linxin and Ding Bo were both banned for a year, Chen Linxin was also cleared out of the national team, transferred from Beijing back to Zhejiang, Chen Linxin's welfare benefits were all adrift, which can be described as a heavy loss.

There is a right and wrong grudge between Shen Guosun and Chen Zude

Chen Linxin

Chen Zude, Wang Runan, Hua Yigang, luo Jianwen, the leaders of the Chinese chess academy who came from chess players, were heartbroken by such a thing.

So the question is, what is the result of this fake chess incident? On this side, the mood of the leaders must be uneasy, but the Shenzhen team suddenly found that the water inside was too deep and too muddy, so they directly found Hua Yigang of the Go Department, admitted it, and said that they would not delve into this matter any longer, this attitude made the leader both surprised and moved, so the matter was settled.

These few events that happened during Chen Zude's tenure still had a certain degree of negative impact on him.

So some people say:

Under his rule, Chinese Go not only has not improved, but even has signs of regression, especially the so-called Go league he painstakingly operated, which is really like a farce, always making people feel that how to look at it is a copy of Chinese football A. The current situation of Chinese Go is indeed a bit unbearable, and Chen Zude should resign and take responsibility for a little leadership failure.

There is a right and wrong grudge between Shen Guosun and Chen Zude

Nie Weiping

After talking about the uproar caused by Nie Weiping, let's talk about Shen Guosun, who is one year older than Chen Zude, he is Chen Zude's former teammate and subordinate, in 1982 he left the national team for some reason and went to the "Ministry of Sports of China" as a reporter. The reason for leaving, no one knows, this should be deliberately concealed.

Qian Yuping left the national team due to illness and returned to Shanghai, and his welfare benefits were retained. Chen Linxin left Beijing for Zhejiang, and his welfare benefits were revoked. Shen Guosun left the national training team, of course, the welfare treatment is gone, this may be a clue, the contradiction began.

Shen Guosun, born in 1942, was one of the first 10 chess players in China to win the Dan position, he was the 5th place in the 1962 National Go Individual Competition and the 3rd place in the 1964 National Individual Competition. In the 1973 Sino-Japanese Go Match held in China, Hebai defeated The Japanese multi-champion Einan Sakata Kudan, becoming the first Chinese player to defeat the Japanese Go title king.

Shen Guosun began writing the book "The Tao and The Devil of Go" in 2006. The work has been serialized in Suzhou City Business Daily and Game Education Network, which has aroused strong repercussions among chess fans.

In his book, he took the initiative to explode several pieces of Chen Zude's black material.

There are mainly a few of them,

First, from July 16, 1965 to August 5, the Chinese Go delegation visited Japan, in the 35 games of the game won 11 wins, 22 losses and 2 draws, China's five young chess players whether black or white adopted a kind of star, small eyes and dismantling the edge layout, so this layout was later called "Chinese flow layout", this layout, Chen Zude took the lead in the early sixties, coincidentally, An Yongyi also wrote this layout routine into his own Go book "New Law of Go", but, The media is like this, once the convention becomes the use of a title, it is fixed, so this layout will be called the Chinese flow layout in the future.

  Shen Guosun mentioned that why is there a "pure" layout? Because the Chinese Go training team has raised the use of "Chinese stream" to the height of whether to surpass Japan. Shen Guosun never used the "Chinese flow layout", because he could not make such a layout, and at the same time he was disgusted by the temptation of "referring to deer as horses", and he did not want to be a vassal of Chen Zude. Later, the training team came to the young Nie Weiping, and Nie Weiping never used the "Chinese stream". Therefore, in the game of "referring to deer as horses", he is also unqualified. So, who were the five members of the team who visited Japan in 1965? Very well, their list is Chen Zude, Wu Songsheng, Wang Runan, Jiang Guozhen and Huang Jinxian.

There is a right and wrong grudge between Shen Guosun and Chen Zude

At the beginning of Chen Zude's selection of the national training team, he was the main team member, and the sense of responsibility was very strong, this is the class committee member in the eyes of the class teacher when he was a child, the psychology of the teacher and the school leader is: I vote in favor of what he does, and the relationship between the class committee members and the ordinary students in the class will not be too good. Why? You know.

The most ruthless, Chen Zude is still very able to drink, because of the large number of socializing, the communication ability is also strong, this is simply the standard configuration of cadre seedlings. Chen Zude lived up to expectations, and after withdrawing from the chess player sequence due to illness, he immediately transferred to the management, deputy director of the fourth department of the Chess and Card Department of the Chinese Chess Academy, specializing in chess and card professionalism, and finally became the president of the Chinese Chess Academy and the chairman of the Chinese Weiqi Association.

Shen Guosun is also a person who loves Go, and he has also cultivated many talents for the country in the national team. In his early years, he coached professional chess players such as Shao Zhenzhong and Jiang Zhujiu. Later, he also coached Professional chess players such as Zhou Kui, Fu Chong, and Peng Liyao. But he left the national team in 1982, but presumably he was not satisfied with the arrangement.

Second, in 1963, when a Japanese Go delegation headed by Masao Sugine visited China, Chen Zude was given the lead and Hanko defeated Masao Suganai. In 1965, Iwata Tatsumi Kudan lost to Chen Zude in a match-up that was set up as a milestone breakthrough.

In 1973, the national training team was reorganized, and from July to August, the Japanese Go delegation headed by Sakata Eiko visited China, and he was invincible, even if the Japanese delegation had women and amateur chess players such as Omosaku Ota, Seiko Ogawa, Yasuro Kikuchi, and Shu Nishimura, the overall record of Chinese chess players was only 14 wins, 2 and 40 losses.

Einan Sakata, who came to China in 1960 at the first Sino-Japanese Go Friendly, said after defeating Guo Tisheng, one of the strongest Chinese Go players at the time, that "the opponent is only the first or cannot be resisted". And the amateur chess player Who once humiliated Chen Zude and Hideo Ando got up and walked when playing, imitating it was Sakata Eiko when playing in China. Fourteen years have passed in a hurry, at this time Sakata Eiko still stands in the list of Japan's most peak strong, he was the champion of Japan's "ten dan" battle that year, Shen Guosun in 1964 was the third place in the Chinese Go Individual Competition, this result, indicating that Shen Guosun has the strength of the third strongest person in the Chinese chess world. Shen Guosun took the initiative to ask for help, went to battle bantian, he grasped the mistake of Sakata Rongnan's light enemy and won in one fell swoop, which was a breakthrough victory for Chinese Go players, Shen Guosun's battle in Shanghai, played the morale of Chinese chess players, the pace of progress that was stagnant by the Cultural Revolution, and also with such a boost of strength, he carried forward the past and set off again. (Evidenced by appendix chess scores).

Unfortunately, in the annals of Go edited by Chen Zude and the reminiscences, this game was deliberately suppressed, and it was not counted without raising the publicity, and it was described as "several games of chess in which the Chinese side defeated the Japanese side, most of which relied on the middle game battle to lay the victory." For example, Shen Guosun defeated Sakata Einan's game of chess, layout and prologue stage, Sakata Einan had the advantage, in the middle stage, Sakata Einan went in a wrong order, and was caught by Shen Guosun and cut off a piece of chess to win. ”

There is a right and wrong grudge between Shen Guosun and Chen Zude

Sakata Takeo

  This text is a passage from the "History of Chinese Go" edited by Chen Zude, which seems to tell everyone that the matter of Shen Guosun Sheng Bantian Rongnan was an accident.

But the honor that should come will naturally come, and after the game, Sakata Einan said to Shen Guosun, "This is your life's masterpiece", which came out of the mouth of the loser, which had a dramatic effect. And this game of chess has indeed become the glorious battle of Shen Guosun's life, even if too many stories have been blown in the smoke and dust of the years, this game, this victory, but always in the annals of history, brilliant, timeless.

Shen Guosun hinted that Chen Zude was weak and defeated Tatsuaki Iwata himself, and Masao Suganai was hyped, while he defeated Japan's then 56 champion Sakada Einan but did not make a sound.

Shen Guosun also mentioned a detail: at the beginning of this century, there was a city in the south that held a "Go Festival" celebration. The organizer wrote the speech for Chen Zude, chairman of the Chinese Weiqi Association, to review. In the speech, there is the sentence "In 1973, Shen Guosun defeated Sakata Eiko Ixuda". Chen Zude picked up his pen and ticked off this sentence. One of Shen Guosun's friends who participated in the Go festival told Shen Guosun about it afterwards, saying: "I didn't expect Chen Zude's qi to be so small. "Maybe in Chen Zude's heart, he felt that Shen Guosun's victory over Bantian Rongnan, the less he knew, the better." Otherwise, how to explain it?

Appendix Chess Score

Based on the Sino-Japanese Go Match between Shen Guosun Zhibai and Sakata Einan (Black), 240 hands, white chess eight-eyed victory, played in Zhengzhou on August 6, 1973.

There is a right and wrong grudge between Shen Guosun and Chen Zude

Appendix 1: Shen Guosun Zhibai's 208th hand caught Einan Sakata's (black) 207th excessive move.

There is a right and wrong grudge between Shen Guosun and Chen Zude

Appendix 2: After a series of exchanges, Sakata Eio returns to the 27th hand to try to contact,

There is a right and wrong grudge between Shen Guosun and Chen Zude

Appendix 3: Unfortunately, Shen Guosun's hand fell with a knife, and the seven seeds of the black triangle were all won, and Shen Guosun won beautifully.

Shen Guosun also mentioned the final of the first Ying Cup in 1989, Nie Weiping in the case of a 2-1 lead, Ying Changqi hoped to put the last two games in China, Cao Xuanxuan proposed to play two games in South Korea, Chen Zude expressed his support for Cao Xuanxuan, and Mr. Ying Changqi repeatedly reiterated that the Ying Cup was held Chinese, and it must be Chinese to win the championship. Chen Zude said that Ying Changqi did not understand what a game was, and the game should be fair.

So Chen Zude became a brilliant internationalist, selfless, and Ying Changqi became a narrow patriot.

Later, the compromise set the venue in Singapore.

We have seen from time to time after a few years that Koreans have changed the schedule of the Samsung Cup, LG Cup, etc., showing pure self-interest. This shows that Koreans are not worthy of the four words of selflessness.

Chen Zude is the leader, and the people at the bottom are not in harmony with the leaders, so there is a motivation to say bad things about the leaders, but what the leaders themselves do is right? Only the benevolent will see the benevolent, and the wise will see the wise.

Due to the shortage of funds of the State Sports Commission at that time, Nie Weiping could only go alone.

At that time, Chen Zude was the deputy director of the Fourth Department of the State Sports Commission, in charge of chess bridge, he asked Kong Xiangming to go to Singapore to take care of Nie Weiping, at that time Nie Weiping and Kong Xiangming husband and wife relationship was tense, she had been studying alone in Japan for a year, the whole Go training team knew things, but Chen Zude, the leader, did not know.

Shen Guosun and Chen Zude argued, once mentioned this matter, Chen Zude argued that he was transferred to the fourth division, the Go team was in charge of the training department, and he did not know that the relationship between Nie and Kong had been frozen.

There is a right and wrong grudge between Shen Guosun and Chen Zude

The argument put forward by Shen Guosun is a typical conspiracy theory, I don't quite believe in conspiracy theory, I can only say that Nie Weiping lost two consecutive games in Singapore, not only lost luck, but also exposed many problems, these problems include the problems of the chess players themselves, the problems of leadership, and the problems within the system.

It seemed as if a lid had been hastily lifted, a field of chicken feathers.

Looking back at the previous article, let's make another comparison. Wu Songsheng, Jiang Zhujiu, Rui Naiwei and other nine-dan masters go abroad to make a living, such as South Korea, Japan, in this regard, the Chinese chess academy sent a document to the Japanese chess academy, the Korean chess academy, let them not let the Chinese chess players participate in their games, really a bit of a sense of extermination. But can this be blamed on Chen Zude or Luo Jianwen?

This belongs to the system problem, the Chinese national Go training team bothered to work hard, the cultivation of Go talents, if not for my use, will be allowed to be lost? What a system that is. There are no rules, no squares, at any time, you have to follow the rules, otherwise how can I manage? So it's still one-size-fits-all, and once the ban comes out, let's stop cooking.

 Mr. Chen Zude has passed away, and at the same time he has taken away a lot of right and wrong. Nie Weiping and Shen Guosun are also like Chen Zude, who have made outstanding achievements and contributions to the cause of Go.

 In Shen Guosun's new book on Go, there are two sentences like this: The magic is in the square inches, and the master has the overall situation.

"The magic of the original is in the square inches" is the way of chess; "the master gets the whole situation of life", which is to seek the way.

I hope that in the world of chess, everyone will "spend all the robbery of the waves of brothers in the world, meet each other and laugh and have a vendetta.".

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