The needle catheter was broken in the baby's blood vessel, and it was not removed for 5 years, and the hospital lent money to the child's parents to take the baby for treatment

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2024-05-13 08:52Posted on the official account of Shaanxi Huashang Daily Gale News

The scar on the child's head has become a scar in Bai Haihai's heart in the past five years. The scar was dropped in 2019 when the needle in the blood vessel was removed. As the child grows up, the scar on his head gradually gets bigger, and the scar on Bai Haihai's heart gets deeper and deeper.

In December 2018, a 5-month-old child was infected with nasolacrimal duct surgery in Yulin Xingyuan Hospital, and the 1.5cm long catheter at the tip of the needle was broken in the blood vessel when the indwelling needle was removed. More than 5 years have passed, and the needle location has been found and it has flowed to the face. Surgery or not, there are risks. Xingyuan Hospital has been borrowing money to pay patients for medical treatment, and the hospital said that it has lent 199,000 yuan so far.

A needle has brought great changes to a family, from struggling to be well-off to being in debt, Bai Haihai's barber shop and clothing store have been closed, the child has not been cured, and the needle has not been taken out, "The hospital is not willing to borrow money now, what should I do next?" ”

The scar on the child's head has always been a scar in the heart of his father Bai Haihai

Coming out

The needle broke off in the child's head and was not removed after surgery

At the end of 2018, Bai Haihai's youngest son, who was just more than 5 months old, had a blocked nasolacrimal duct, and Bai Haihai and his wife took the child to Yulin Xingyuan Hospital to see a doctor. On December 28, 2018, when the nurse pulled out the needle, the indwelling needle catheter broke in the vein of the child's head.

On the same day, Xingyuan Hospital confirmed that the position of the needle catheter was on the head through a B-ultrasound examination, "Their hospital couldn't solve it, so they organized an ambulance that night and assigned a nurse to transfer the child to Xi'an Children's Hospital to pick up the foreign body." "At Xi'an Children's Hospital, I also found a tubular echo under the skin of the head. However, on December 30, 2018, the needle catheter could not be found during the operation, and the doctor said that it may be due to a change in blood flow. After the operation, the needle catheter was never found. The doll's eyes were not good, and she was infected, and she was hospitalized in the First Affiliated Hospital of Jiaotong University.

More than five years have passed, and the needle has not been taken out yet, and this accident is a change for Bai Haihai's family, and the days to come will be like a catastrophe. Since 2019, Bai Haihai and his wife have taken their children to seek medical treatment all over the country, Xi'an, Beijing, Shanghai, and Hohhot, but they have never found the exact location of the needle catheter. Until October 2023, after a month in Beijing, Beijing Children's Hospital affiliated to Capital Medical University finally found a needle catheter, which had flowed down the blood vessel to the left side of the neck, "I asked a lot of doctors, and basically said that they didn't dare to take it, there was no precedent, and the 6-year-old baby would be paralyzed once it touched the facial nerve, and there was a great risk of surgical injury." Bai Haihai said that there is a risk if you don't take it, and the needle will flow down to the heart and lungs, and if something happens, there will be no time to rescue. It is difficult to say whether the needle will be adsorbed to the blood vessel wall or flow rapidly in the future.

In March this year, Bai Haihai took the child to Beijing Children's Hospital again, this time the B ultrasound, the needle catheter could not be found again, and it took a week to do CT scanning, and the child had been sick for a few days, but they returned to Yulin. On April 7, CT was done in Yulin Xingyuan Hospital, and this time it was clearly seen that the 15.2mm foreign body was on the left side of the neck, "I couldn't find it in the past few years, and the hospital thought it was difficult for us to find them, but this time I found it, and the hospital had to admit it." ”

Yulin Xingyuan Hospital

rough

The anterior part of the indwelling needle has not been removed

On December 28, 2018, the ultrasound examination of the Fourth (Xingyuan) Hospital of Yulin City showed that a thin tubular hyperecho with a diameter of about 0.8 mm and a length of about 15 mm was visible under the skin of the left temporal part of Tongtong, which was about 1.3 mm away from the epidermis. On the same day, Tongtong's inpatient revised diagnosis in the hospital showed: "1. Infection after nasolacrimal duct exploration 2. Suspicious foreign body in the scalp?"

According to the discharge record of Xi'an Children's Hospital, Tongtong, who is more than 5 months old, was hospitalized for five days on December 30, 2018, and was discharged on January 4, 2019. Two days before admission, the child was found to be disconnected from the root of the indwelling needle during the anti-infection treatment of Yulin Xingyuan Hospital due to nasolacrimal tunnel inflammation, and the stump was not found. The B-ultrasound examination in the hospital showed that it was a left temporal subscalp tubular echo, which was considered a foreign body and had been located on the body surface. The surgical records showed that the scalp foreign body resection was to be performed, the exploratory incision was extended to the side of the head and tail mark, and the cord was separated layer by layer, and no foreign body was found. If a foreign body is present, it may have drifted.

On October 16, 2023, the ultrasound diagnosis report of Beijing Children's Hospital affiliated to Capital Medical University showed that a tubular structure was visible in the inner and lower edge of the left parotid gland and the local external jugular vein branch (posterior mandibular vein), with a length of 1.7cm, a thickness of 0.1cm, and a local venous inner diameter of 0.27cm. Tubular foreign body in the left posterior mandibular venous cavity (which can be matched with a cannula in combination with the medical history), and no thrombus is seen in the local venous lumen.

On April 7, a CT image taken by Xingyuan Hospital showed that a 15.2mm foreign body was visible on the left side of the neck. The reporter saw that it was shaped like a needle

CT imaging shows a foreign body visible on the left side of the neck

The needle-like foreign body is up to 15.2 mm long

On April 23, in a "Statement of Temporary Loan Treatment Fees" from the Medical Department of Xingyuan Hospital, the patient Tongtong was admitted to the pediatric department of the hospital on December 26, 2018 with the complaint of "2 days after nasolacrimal duct exploration with fever for 1 day", and after the intravenous infusion of the child was completed on the 28th, after the nurse took out the indwelling needle, she found that the front end of the indwelling needle (polyperfluoroethylene propylene hose) was defective, and the head B ultrasound report was urgently checked: thin tubular hyperecho appeared to be visible under the skin of the left temporal region. On the 29th, the child was transferred to Xi'an Children's Hospital for diagnosis and treatment. On January 10, 2019, the patient's family came to the hospital to report that the child had undergone surgery at Xi'an Children's Hospital, but the defect at the tip of the indwelling needle was not found during the operation. Considering that the defect at the front end of the indwelling needle (polyperfluoroetylene hose) has not been removed, the child is young, and the follow-up treatment is complicated. The hospital is willing to work with family members to actively seek diagnosis and treatment, find needles, and eliminate potential risks. The child's family is in financial difficulties and has spent part of the cost of treatment at Xi'an Children's Hospital, and will be examined and treated in Beijing and other hospitals in the future.

regret

The nasolacrimal duct was not cured and caused a big disaster, and my son's circle of seeing a doctor turned lonely

On May 6, a reporter from Huashang Daily Gale News came to Yulin City and met Bai Haihai's family. Speaking of the nasolacrimal duct surgery, "I regret it, if I had the current life experience, I would not have given my son nasolacrimal duct surgery at that time, and the nasolacrimal duct blockage will not have much impact, at most there will be more tears." Bai Haihai's wife, Ms. Li, said that the ophthalmology department of Xingyuan Hospital was better in Yulin, and the doctor cooperated with him as much as he said, and did nasolacrimal duct exploration on the same day, but she didn't expect that the follow-up would bring such a big problem. This is a minimally invasive operation, go with it, go home on the day of the end, and become inflamed within two days, and go to Xingyuan Hospital for infusion to reduce inflammation.

The needle part of the indwelling needle is fixed to the child's left head with a large piece of adhesive tape, and when the nurse pulls out the needle, because the tape cannot be removed, the tape is shaved off in its entirety with a shaving clipper. "When the nurse left with the tape, I said you let me take a look, and when I looked at it, I found that there was no needle part of the indwelling needle, and the needle was broken in the blood vessel." Ms. Li said that now she can't remember why she suddenly asked to take a look at the indwelling needle that was pulled out, thanks to a glance, otherwise the indwelling needle in the blood vessel would become an eternal secret, no one knows, and no one can think of the reason for the accident.

In the photographs of the time, it can be seen that the indwelling needle was glued with a large piece of adhesive tape, and most of the front of the needle was missing, and the adhesive tape was stained with broken hair residue.

Speaking of these, Ms. Li's eyes were red from time to time, and when she went to Xingyuan Hospital, the nasolacrimal duct was not passed, and the pus infection was particularly serious, and she left the needle in the doll's blood vessel, and did not take out a big incision on her head. "Such a small doll, suffering such a great sin. has caused such a big disaster now, and it has turned lonely in a circle. ”

Indwelling needles from the same batch

worry

I signed a waiver agreement when I went to kindergarten and was worried that my future enrollment and job search would be affected

Now Tongtong is almost 6 years old, in the kindergarten class, "before entering the kindergarten, we signed a waiver agreement with the school, what happened to our doll in the kindergarten has nothing to do with the kindergarten." Ms. Li said that she is actually very relieved that the child is in school, understands and knows the special situation of the child, and the teachers can take care of it, "Every time I ask the baby if she likes to go to kindergarten, the cuteness goes, and the teacher treats him well." ”

In the second half of the year, the school will start in September, Tongtong will be in the first grade, Bai Haihai is thinking that before the child goes to elementary school, he can do surgery to remove the needle catheter in the blood vessel, so that life can return to the right track. She had a failed operation before, which also made Tongtong's mother more cautious about the next treatment plan. "Now that the needle catheter is located under the facial nerve, I have to minimize the risk of surgery. As a mother, I can't allow and accept that I try and make mistakes with my son again. Ms. Li said that her son had nine stitches on his head when he was less than half a year old, and the wound was only five or six centimeters at that time, and the scar had grown to 10 centimeters after being measured a few days ago.

"When the operation was opened, I couldn't find the needle catheter, and I opened it up and down to find it, so the wound was big." Bai Haihai said that after more than four hours of surgery, he finally took out nothing and sewed it up, leaving a large scar on the child's head, where the scalp was missing, and there was no longer hair growth. Bai Haihai will deliberately cover it when giving a haircut to a child, but he can't cover it. He has always been worried that this big scar will affect his child's schooling, and even affect his child's job search in the future. ”

tangled

Before I found it, I still had a fluke mentality, and the catheter was not easy to develop, which is also the worry

In October last year, the position of the needle was determined to be in the neck, and it was never found before, "The hospital always said that the needle was not in the doll's body, and we also had a bit of luck." Bai Haihai said that the couple had fantasized over and over again, what if it really fell to the ground? What if the needle really wasn't in my son's veins? "I couldn't find it every time I checked it, and I really hoped that as the hospital said, the needle was not in the doll's body, but in the end I found it." Bai Haihai was very complicated in his heart, but fortunately, now that he knew the location, he was one step closer to taking it out.

Ms. Li said that she wanted to escape before, but after finding the location of the needle, she had to face and accept this fact. The most obvious change in myself is to be more cautious, "I took the child out to play on May Day, and when I came home in the afternoon, the child fell asleep on my arm, and my first reaction was to change him direction, and I was afraid of touching the left side of my neck when I hugged him." ”

Bai Haihai and his wife have tacitly understood each other over the years, and they have never taken the initiative to mention Tongtong's illness to their children. "My sister probably knew that my brother had needles in his veins, but we didn't tell her anything about it, and she heard it when adults talked. My sister has asked many times, what is my brother's illness? We didn't tell her, how can you say such a small child? What do you think when you hear it? This should not be left to them. Bai Haihai said that his son knew that he had a scar left by the operation, and he did not know that there were needles in his veins. My son has been less than half a year old, and he is not on the way to see a doctor, and he understands it somewhat.

In March this year, when I was doing B ultrasound in Beijing, and I couldn't see the needle catheter again, a group of doctors surrounded Tongtong for a long time, "He must have heard what the doctor said, but after he came back that day, he only said to me, 'Mom, next time I can't lie down for so long, I can't move, I'm a little tired.'" He never asked about the illness, and he never said anything that would make his mother sad. Ms. Li said that the needle catheter left in Tongtong's body was not as easy to visualize as the metal material, which was her concern. After the indwelling needle was inserted into the blood vessel, the metal part was withdrawn, and the catheter wrapped outside the metal remained in the blood vessel for infusion, which was exactly the case, so the operation in Xi'an that year would fail, and the B ultrasound in Beijing in March was not seen.

The people around Bai Haihai are also persuading him that life should be seen in a better place, "Relatives and friends enlightened, I also listened to it, and then when I woke up the next day, I would still be defeated by reality." In fact, it is internal friction, and I will persuade myself, my life is very good now, at least my children are around, my family loves each other, and there are many people around me who have not yet married and become divorced, so I can only think in a good direction. Bai Haihai said that enlightenment and self-enlightenment, and then falling into despair, is a cycle.

adapt

Once deeply depressed and afraid to take the baby out, the neighbor thought that the scar on the child's head was falling

One difficulty after another made Ms. Li deeply depressed. "For a long time, I didn't even dare to hug the baby, or even look at him, to that extent." Ms. Li said that her eyelids are soft, and she can't look at the photos of her children when they were young, and she cries when she sees them. Before the age of two, Tong Tong rarely went downstairs except to see a doctor. The child is introverted, and Ms. Li is constantly self-reflecting, "I also have a reason, sometimes I don't dare to take my child out, and I am introverted when I see few people." Ms. Li said that at that time, she felt that the baby was also very inferior, and she did not grow longer with less activities, and was shorter than children of the same age. Later, I figured out that I couldn't let the baby be treated differently because of the fault of the hospital. Since her son was two years old, Ms. Li often took him out, "I will be worried in my heart, but in front of the child, I treat him as an ordinary child, but fortunately, the child is much more outgoing now." ”

Ms. Li said that when the mother and son first started to go downstairs, Ms. Li sat on the bench for two hours, and the child lay on her lap for two hours. Later, while playing in the community, other people's grandmothers saw the scar on his head and said, "You fell out of bed and got it?" I don't want to say more, I'm afraid that people will know that there are needle catheters in the blood vessels, and then hide and don't play with our children, so I replied yes. Later, some people often say, you see that parents don't worry about it, and they break the baby's head, which will affect it for the rest of their lives. ”

A while ago, my son said that he liked basketball and boxing, and Ms. Li also wanted to sign up for a martial arts class or basketball class for her son, "My first reaction was actually scared, little boys are lively and active, whoever punches over in case it hits the blood vessels again, and the needles flow to the heart and lungs." But I still thought that I was going to treat him as an ordinary child, but no one dared to accept him. I bought him a basketball and slapped it myself. ”

Changes

For the sake of the baby's business, the barber shop and the clothing store were closed

In 2008, Bai Haihai went to Beijing to learn hairdressing before finishing junior high school, "I have the skills, and it took more than 20,000 yuan to learn hairdressing." "After completing his studies, he worked as a barber in Beijing, and he also went to Hebei and Northeast China. In 2013, Bai Haihai returned to Yulin with his craft, opened his own barber shop, and met his wife, "She came to my shop to cut her hair." The two of them worked together, bought garages one after another, and had daughters and sons after getting married, and everything was developing for the better.

In 2018, the house book came down, in addition to the barber shop, in September of that year, Bai Haihai and his wife opened another children's clothing store. In order to facilitate the opening of the store, Bai Haihai also bought a basement as a warehouse when buying the house. The wife went to work, the husband looked at the store, and thought that life would get better and better, but then this happened to the son. "I don't know when to go to treatment, I don't know when to go to the hospital, and I can't work. For the sake of the baby's business, I couldn't take care of my time and energy, and within a few months, both stores were closed. On May 6, the Huashang Daily Gale News reporter saw that in the basement, there is still a backlog of children's clothing and supplies for opening a hairdresser, hundreds of children's clothes are piled up on the two-layer shelf bed, a few years have passed, and the new clothes that have not been unsealed also look shabby, "These styles are now outdated, no one wears them, last year someone said that they took away 300 yuan to me, I said put it first." ”

"Life was really good at that time, and there was no financial pressure." Recalling the past, Bai Haihai's expression always revealed longing. "The nurse, I believe she didn't mean to, but there must have been something wrong with the way she pulled out the needle." Bai Haihai said that the hospital's attitude now is to admit that there is such an incident, but not to admit that it is a medical accident, "An 'accident' in the mouth of the hospital has changed the life of our whole family." ”

"When my daughter was a child, the slides were bought at home. When my son arrived, he basically didn't buy a large item, and the financial pressure was relatively high. Ms. Li said that her monthly salary of 5,000 yuan and half of the mortgage went out. The husband mainly takes care of his son and runs to the hospital, so he can only do odd jobs to make up for it, "I haven't mentioned the difficult situation of life before, and if the credit card can't be repaid, we will pay the minimum payment, which should not be our current situation." From the former well-off to the present debt-indebted, the hospital said that you should bear it yourself, why can't I accept this statement. Ms. Li said that at the beginning of this year, Bai Haihai proposed to sell the house, "but I forced it not to sell, and the house was sold again, and there was really no home." "There are two elderly people to support in the family, two children to go to school, and there is no precedent for successful surgery in China for my son's similar condition. However, every time I went to the hospital to get money, I couldn't find anyone and couldn't speak, and it took several days, and the people below said to report to the top, and the people above hid and disappeared. The health department coordinated, and also said that the hospital would simplify the process, and now hope that the hospital can compensate for the losses over the years, and can give a written explanation of how to deal with it, so that in the future, the baby will not have to run around the hospital so hard.

"Borrowing"

thought that "borrowing money to see a doctor" was "reimbursement by ticket" and "borrowed" more than 100,000 yuan in five years

Looking back, Bai Haihai simply used the word "happiness" to describe it. At that time, the income was okay, and now the main life is to take the children to see a doctor and find a hospital to "borrow money". In 2018, the needle catheter was left in the child's body when the needle was removed, and the family members paid for the first time to see a doctor and take the child for surgery. In 2019, the hospital promised to lend money to Bai Haihai to treat the child "out of humanitarianism". "The hospital was too difficult to speak, I didn't understand it at the time, and at that time I thought that I could get the money, I had to treat the doll first, and I could take out the needle catheter, and I didn't think about borrowing. Every time I ask for money, I finally get it, but it's hard to get it. "Because the needle catheter will flow with the blood, Bai Haihai still insists on taking the baby to check and find the needle, and it costs hundreds of thousands of yuan to see a doctor, mainly for the cost of transportation and accommodation to other places." I couldn't find it for a few years, and Xingyuan Hospital also said that the indwelling needle was not in the body, and it was unwilling to be responsible anyway. Under pressure, I kept looking for it, and I found it in Beijing Children's Hospital in October last year, and I also saw it in Xingyuan Hospital in April this year, and it was in the neck. ”

In the past few years, Bai Haihai's daily routine is to "borrow money" from the hospital to take the baby to see a doctor, and after the money is spent, he takes the medical, transportation, accommodation and other bills for the doctor, and then goes to the hospital to "borrow money" and then take the baby to see a doctor. And this "borrowing money", in Bai Haihai's eyes, has always been equivalent to "reimbursement" for the expenses incurred in seeing a doctor, and the hospital is responsible for it. Bai Haihai said that in the past few years, the hospital has at least "borrowed money" from him to let him take the baby for examination and treatment, and he has always wanted to make big things small. After returning from medical treatment in Beijing in March this year, he communicated with Xingyuan Hospital again to "borrow money" for examination, but was rejected by a vice president surnamed Wang. "The dean agreed and asked me to go to him, but he said that the needle catheter was not harmful in the body or even the heart and lungs, and I was really sad when I heard it. Ignoring my doll's condition and pushing me at the elevator entrance is so annoying, too hurtful, and too insulting to me. ”

In April this year, after repeated communication, Xingyuan Hospital provided Bai Haihai with a description of the temporary loan treatment fee, the last sentence: "After the hospital decided to study and decide, it was agreed to temporarily borrow 20,000 yuan (20,000 yuan) from the patient for the child's diagnosis and treatment in a higher-level hospital." In the event of a dispute, this part of the cost will be resolved through legal means. Coupled with the unpleasant experience with Vice President Wang, Bai Haihai realized that borrowing money is different from reimbursement. Q: What will happen to this fee in the future? Bai Haihai was silent at first, "I don't know...... This time, the IOU has been paid before May Day, but the money has not been transferred to us after the holiday. If someone sues me, do I have to pay it back? He said that he is currently lending more than 100,000 yuan from the hospital.

child

Seeing my mom pick up and hug after school, I like Spider-Man and want to learn to play basketball

At 4:50 p.m. on May 6, Bai Haihai and his wife went to pick up their children from school together. Usually Bai Haihai picks up the children, and the mother can only go to work when she is resting. At about 5 o'clock, under the leadership of the teacher, Tongtong lined up to come out together, and a long scar on the left side of his head was very conspicuous. Tongtong walked to the gate of the kindergarten, where Ms. Li was already waiting in line. "Mom! Mom! As soon as Tongtong saw Ms. Li, he happily rushed out and hugged her, and couldn't wait to start sharing the new things that happened in the kindergarten with her mother, "I ate fish today, but it was delicious." ”

Along the way, Tongtong was quite lively, not very recognizable, chatting with reporters. He said that he was the second-to-last in the class, and there was only one child who was lower than him, liked basketball very much, and wanted to learn to play basketball. I like to wear handsome to school," the teacher said, the collar of the clothes should be turned down neatly, so that it is handsome. Tongtong said that he likes school a little, and a classmate in his class has to go to school every day when he is sick.

When I returned home, there were bags of medical records and film materials on the table. Kiriki takes Spider-Man's drawing and starts cutting paper. He's going to cut out Spider-Man and stick it to the window, "I like Spider-Man the most, he's the best superhero, better than Captain America and Ultraman." Tongtong said that every night, her mother tutored her sister with homework, and her father washed the dishes, and she was responsible for playing.

Tongtong's sister, who is in the first grade this year, said that every night when she writes her homework, her younger brother begins to look for her mother all over the house, "My brother and I pick rice and I pick fruits, he loves to eat melon, I don't like it very much." He doesn't like noodles, I love noodles the most. I like my brother too. Tongtong's sister said that every morning, her father went out at 7:20 a.m., first to send her, then to her mother, and then to her younger brother.

Ms. Li said that her daughter has always been very outgoing, and her son has been significantly more lively in recent years, "It's better to be lively, otherwise it will be too distressing." ”

Good friend

The child's mother was looking for needles and sticking tape to the floor of the hospital room for hours

On May 7, a reporter from Huashang Daily Gale News contacted Ms. Wang, a friend of Ms. Li, and the two have known each other for more than 10 years. Ms. Wang said that she knew something about Tongtong, and that the child went to Xingyuan Hospital for surgery because of nasolacrimal duct problems, but he became infected, and went to Xingyuan Hospital for injections to treat the infection, so the indwelling needle needle was broken in the doll's blood vessel. "When the needle was pulled out, there was no needle part, and the child's mother was in the hospital ward, gluing all over the ground with duct tape, looking for the needle, looking for several hours. At that time, I wondered if the needle would fall to the ground, and if I could find it, it would be a false alarm. ”

Ms. Wang said that everyone around her knows about this incident, the child's mother has been on leave for a long time, it takes time to see a doctor for the baby, Bai Haihai's barber shop can't be opened, and the couple's clothing store was closed two or three months after the accident. "The two of them used to be okay, but it cost a lot to see this disease for the doll, but now it is difficult, and the conditions are not comparable with before. The main reason is that the baby suffered such a big crime, and everyone is very sympathetic. ”

hospital

"If you look for the Health Bureau, then you will find a superior unit"

On the morning of May 7, a reporter from Huashang Daily Gale News and Bai Haihai and his wife came to Yulin Xingyuan Hospital. I found multiple offices but didn't see the dean, and asked the staff next door and the hospital office, saying that the dean was not there.

Subsequently, he found the vice president surnamed Wang mentioned by Bai Haihai and asked about the progress of the incident.

Vice President Wang: "What results do you want?" ”

Ms. Li: I would like a written report.

Vice President Wang: I want to make a written report to Director Zhang (the staff member who handles medical disputes) and tell me that I can't help it if you want to make unreasonable demands.

Bai Haihai: We're not asking for something unreasonable, are we?

Vice President Wang: I don't know what you're asking for. We have taken the responsibility before, you go to the health bureau, then you go to the superior unit, we can't deal with it for you.

Immediately afterwards, the vice president surnamed Wang made a phone call and left the office on the pretext that he had a meeting. At the elevator entrance, the reporter asked about the progress of the processing, and the vice president surnamed Wang said that it was inconvenient to disclose it, and he wanted to find the propaganda personnel in charge of the hospital office, "Now the superior unit has dealt with it." "Then will the hospital no longer negotiate a settlement?" It's not convenient for me to say that. ”

Yuyang District Health Bureau

It has not been determined for a long time, but the indwelling needle product is no problem, not a three-no product

Subsequently, the Gale News reporter of Huashang Daily and Bai Haihai and his wife came to the "superior unit" in the mouth of Vice President Wang - Yuyang District Health Bureau.

After learning about the situation in the morning, the staff who was responsible for handling and coordinating the matter immediately contacted Yulin Xingyuan Hospital to inquire about the progress of the processing: "You can't just write materials, but the actual problems need to be solved." You can't push it out, you can't have such an attitude, how to deal with it, what you said at the last meeting, you can't go back on your word. ”

The staff said that the matter has been coordinated several times, because the time is long, it is really difficult to deal with, the family can first put forward a short-term treatment plan, and the long-term goal will be proposed after the whole solution, and at the same time let the hospital come up with a process plan to avoid the family every time they run away, and the family should also understand the hospital. "The most important thing at the moment is to get the needle out of the doll's veins first." The staff said that as for the loan, there will definitely be a way to deal with it in the end, "The hospital admitted that there is no dispute about this matter, and the final payment is not a problem." ”

The staff said that the nature of the incident has not yet been determined, and whether it was an accident has not yet been determined. At present, the location of the needle catheter has been found, and now it is the core problem to take it out, "The reason why the indwelling needle remains in the blood vessel has been a long time now, but the investigation of the indwelling needle product is no problem, not a three-no product." Whether it is human or not is not clear. ”

—— Doubts ——

1. Why do nurses use faders when removing needles? Unclear, it was an accident that the hose remained in the blood vessels

After the coordination of the Yuyang District Health Bureau, the reporter of Huashang Daily Gale News and Bai Haihai and his wife came to Yulin Xingyuan Hospital again. The reporter found Director Zhang mentioned by Vice President Wang, and Director Zhang said that the current location of the needle catheter is the mandibular vein, and the specific situation was introduced by the person in charge of the hospital.

The person in charge said, first, it was not left over from the operation, and second, it was not a needle, it was a flexible tube. Thirdly, the patient was less than 1 year old at the time, and now he is almost 6 years old, and the hose has no effect on his growth and health. "Whether it's the quality or the nurse's operation, it can only be said to be an accident." He said that at the time of the incident, the indwelling needle was stuck to the head, it was a scalp needle, and it had to be changed once every 3 days. "At that time, we proposed that the hospital take it out, but the family did not agree, so the hospital sent someone to accompany the family to take the child to the children's hospital for surgery, including the scar on the child's head." Why does the nurse push the needle with an electric clipper when she pulls out the needle, and is this operation in line with the norms? "I don't know about this." The person in charge said.

Indwelling needles of the same batch

2. Why is it a form of borrowing money to see a doctor? The hospital is responsible for borrowing money, and whether to repay the money or not requires a third-party appraisal

The person in charge said that in recent years, the hospital has given 199,000 yuan to the family in the form of loans for the child to see a doctor, "This is a medical accident, but we have to think about the patient!" It's already happened in our hospital, and we can only take responsibility for it. Since the hospital is responsible, why is the medical expenses for the family members in the form of "borrowing money and making IOUs"? "There is a conflict between the hospital and the patient, and a third party is needed for judicial appraisal, and the family is unwilling to go through this procedure and mediate with a third party. When you take care of your illness and take out the tube, you will know who is right and who is wrong. The person in charge said that it is difficult to determine whether it is a medical accident or a medical accident, "so we are out of humanitarian considerations, first of all, we first protect the health of the doll, so we will lend money." ”

Will the family members repay this "loan" in the future? The person in charge said that this is subject to the results of the third-party appraisal, and if the family wants to go to the appraisal now, the hospital will cooperate, "It can be identified whether the fracture of the indwelling needle is a problem of product quality." ”

3. What is the next step? The hospital recommends surgery to remove the needle catheter as soon as possible

The person in charge said that it is now recommended that the family remove the needle catheter for the child as soon as possible. "It has been found in Beijing Children's Hospital in November 2023 that any surgery has risks, and now it is the patient's family who is unwilling to take this risk. The point of contradiction between parents is here, and it has little impact on the doll now, but it is risky to take this. He said that the Health and Construction Commission organized two discussions, "Now the family is asking us to compensate for lost work, and we want money, and we must have a fair judicial appraisal to determine who is responsible." Some of the requirements made by the family members to the hospital could not be met, so they were stuck here. ”

The person in charge said that some time ago, the patient's family also came to the hospital to borrow money, "We have already borrowed money from him, and it has been transferred to the account." The family has always said that they only signed a receipt of 20,000 yuan on April 23, but the hospital has not given the money. The person in charge did not answer this question. Before the deadline of 6 p.m. on May 10, Bai Haihai said that he had not received the "loan".

Will you continue to borrow money to see patients in the future? The person in charge said that now that the catheter has been found, "either it will be taken surgically or not, and the family must have an attitude." Our hospital could also do surgery, but after this incident, the family did not trust us. On May 9, the person in charge contacted reporters and said that the hospital had contacted two hospitals in Beijing to operate on the child, but the contact information of the two hospitals could not be provided.

4. What is the impact of a needle catheter? Xingyuan Hospital: Staying in the body has no effect and it is not difficult to remove the surgery

According to the outpatient medical records of Beijing Children's Hospital affiliated to Capital Medical University, on October 18, 2023, Tongtong's current medical history mentions that "the trocar was left for 4 years". During physical examination, surgical scar was found in the left temporal region, about 10 cm long, the scalp was missing, and the neck was not palpated. Diagnosis and treatment plan: It is recommended to remove the foreign body through surgery or intervention to prevent the foreign body from further moving to the large blood vessels, but the surgical removal of the foreign body is more damaging and has certain risks. On May 11, a reporter from Huashang Daily Gale News contacted Beijing Children's Hospital, and the staff said that the specific condition could only consult the doctor, but the doctor could not be contacted by phone, and the Internet diagnosis and treatment could only be hung up to the department, and the doctor could not be designated, and the child was advised to come to the hospital for treatment.

"The last time a patient found a needle was in our hospital for a CT. It will move around because the blood is flowing all the time, and it may move as the blood washes away. The person in charge said that the needle catheter is now in the vein, from the vein to the heart, and finally to the end of the artery, it will stop, no matter where it goes, it will not be blocked, which is equivalent to a thin tube in the thick tube, including the heart blood supply, etc., "Now this thing is actually left in his body, and it will not have any effect on him." ”

After a previous operation, the needle was not removed, and Beijing Children's Hospital also mentioned that "the surgery to remove a foreign body is more harmful", and the family is worried about the risk of surgery, if it touches the facial nerve, it will cause facial paralysis. In this regard, the person in charge said, "We are also out of humanitarianism, so we must take out the doll's management." Blood vessels have a sense of self-protection, they will shrink when encountered, in fact, it is not very difficult, now it stays in the parotid vein, the position is very superficial, the blood vessels and nerves are parallel, and the operation will be taken out, it is a very small operation. ”

Huashang Daily Gale News reporter She Xin editor Dong Lin

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