Will humans live on Mars?

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Will humans ever live on Mars?

Will humans live on Mars?

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Dan Bradbury

Do you think humans can really build civilization on Mars?

Can, as in “totally possible within the laws of physics”? Yes, of course. We have the engineering prowess to invent the technology to do so.

Do you think humans can really build civilization on Mars?

Yes, like, "Is this entirely possible under the laws of physics"? Yes, of course. We have strong engineering skills to invent such technology.

Can, as in “right now”? No. As a general rule, if we haven’t done it EVER, then we don’t have the technology. We can send probes (barely, at that). We haven’t sent people. Entire processes and technology would need to be invented to do that. As I mentioned, if we took the limit off the top of spending, then that would make it happen sooner.

Can, as in “will we ever”? I think so. I don’t think we’ll colonize Mars. I think that —based on any obxtive view of history— we become less and less comfortable with perils the more technology we have to remove them.

Yes, it's like, "Can we do it now? No." In general, if we've never done it before, then we don't have the technology. We can send probes (barely). We haven't sent anyone to Mars yet. To do this, the entire process and technology need to be invented. But as I mentioned, if we don't count the cost, then it's possible to achieve it faster.

Yes, like, "Can we do it in the future?" I think it will. I don't think we're going to colonize Mars. I think it's based on an objective view of history – that as we have more and more technology, we become less concerned about danger – and we have more and more technology to eliminate it.

To that end, I think that 1000–3000m diameter rotating ships in space with the ability to maneuver out of the way of obxts and the ability to harness energy from the sun will be our future. We may not even be “human” at that point, perhaps rotating will be a worthless thought. If we remain much as we are, then some form of gravity, a large interior space (a few kilometers across) with an internal light source and heavily regulated environment will be the aim.

For this, I believe that in the future there will be a need for space-rotating spacecraft with a diameter of 1000 - 3000 meters, which are able to avoid objects and be able to use the energy of the sun. At that point, we may not even be "human" anymore, and spinning may be a worthless idea. If we keep the status quo, then some form of gravity, a huge interior space (several kilometers wide), internal light sources and a strictly regulated environment will be the goal.

Ernest W. Adams

What is the likelihood that humans will eventually live on Mars?

For short periods on a scientific outpost, good.

For their whole lives on a permanent colony, not good. Any population living on Mars will require assistance from Earth indefinitely.

Also it’s a pretty lousy place to live regardless. I don’t think many people are going to want to raise their children in a place where they’ll never see a flower or an animal.

How likely is it that humans will eventually inhabit Mars?

Spending some time at a scientific outpost is very likely.

It is unlikely that they will colonize Mars permanently and spend their lives on Mars. Any population living on Mars will need Earth's assistance indefinitely.

And one way or another, it's a very bad place. I don't think many people want their children to grow up in a place where they can't see flowers or animals.

Sebastian Boyd

can we survive on mars?

While it is true Humans cannot survive on Mars without a spacesuit and special equipment, it does not mean we can’t live there.

Mars has all the resources necessary to sustain civilization as we know it. Iron, Carbon, Water Ice, Silicon, and just about every other element needed to support industry on Earth can be found in various forms on Mars. Using these resources, we can manufacture plastics, metals, electronics, with which we can make clothing, habitats, vehicles, computers, solar panels, wire, piping, containers, or anything else we require.

Can we survive on Mars?

While humans can't survive on Mars without spacesuits and special equipment, that doesn't mean we can't live there.

Mars has all the resources we know we need to sustain civilization. Iron, carbon, water ice, silicon, and almost every other element that underpins industry on Earth can be found on Mars in various forms. Using these resources, we can make plastics, metals, electronics, and with them we can make clothing, habitats, vehicles, computers, solar panels, wires, pipes, containers, or anything else we need.

In the shorter term, it is possible to produce both Oxygen and rocket fuel (Methalox) on Mars using the well known Sabatier Reaction, which uses hydrogen (Either imported or split from locally mined water ice) and the planet’s plentiful Carbon Dioxide atmosphere to produce Methane and water, which can then be split through electrolysis into Oxygen for breathing and Hydrogen to use as fuel or be fed back into the reactor to make more Methane and water.

As for growing food, tests have been performed growing wheat, beats, carrots, and many other crops in simulated Martian soil with moderate success. However it is known that Martian soil lacks much of the nitrogen that plants need to be healthy. This can in fact be remedied very easily by mixing the soil with specially treated solid waste (yes poo) exactly as is done to fertilize fields on here on earth, as human waste is very high in nitrogen and other things plants need to grow, such as helpful bacteria.

In the short term, oxygen and rocket fuel (methane-liquid oxygen, Methalox) can be produced on Mars using the well-known Sabatier reaction, which uses hydrogen (imported or separated from locally mined water ice) and Earth's abundant atmosphere to produce methane and water, which are then broken down by electrolysis into oxygen for breathing and hydrogen for fuel, or fed back into reactors to produce more methane and water.

As for growing food, experiments with wheat, sugar beets, carrots and many other crops have been carried out in simulated Martian soil with some success. However, Martian soil is known to lack the large amount of nitrogen needed for plant health. In fact, this can be easily remedied by mixing the soil with specially treated solid waste (yes, manure), just like fertilizing fields on Earth, since human manure is high in nitrogen and other substances needed for plant growth, such as beneficial bacteria.

Other commonly cited obstacles to human exploration and settlement of Mars are Radiation, low gravity, and prolonged isolation. However, all of these are solvable problems.

It is my understanding that the radiation received from a three-year round trip to the red planet is sufficient to increase the risk of cancer by about 1%, meaning that if you sent a someone who smokes on such a mission and they gave up the habit in the process they would be reducing their risk of cancer by more than 25%. On the surface radiation can be reduced to terrestrial levels simply by burying the habitats people live in or even putting sandbags on top.

The Gravity issue is the most difficult to answer. Mars’ gravity is about one-third that of Earth’s, and while the effects of zero g’s on the human body are well known to be fairly adverse, we don’t know if the gravity on Mars is enough to avoid these effects, but we also won’t be able to find out unless we go.

Other common obstacles to human exploration and settlement on Mars are radiation, low gravity, and long-term isolation. However, all of these problems are solvable.

As I understand it, three years of round-trip to Mars is enough radiation to increase the risk of cancer by about 1%, which means that if you send a smoker on such a mission and quit the habit in the process, their risk of cancer will be reduced by more than 25%. At the surface, radiation can be reduced to Earth level simply by burying the habitat where people live, or even placing sandbags on top.

The question of gravity is the most difficult to answer. Mars' gravity is about one-third that of Earth, and while the ill effects of zero gravity on humans are well known, and we don't know if gravity on Mars is enough to avoid them, there is no answer unless we go up to Mars.

The psychological issues are mostly easily avoidable. being in stressful, high risk situations away from home is something thousands of soldiers go through daily, and the prospect of leaving home and family to explore and settle a dangerous new world is one countless pilgrims, pioneers, and frontiersmen embraced over three hundred years ago.

The question of Mars is no longer how or even why, it is when and who.

Psychological problems are mostly easy to avoid. Being away from home in a stressful, high-stakes environment is something that thousands of soldiers experience every day, and the prospect of leaving home and family to explore and settle in a dangerous new world was embraced by countless pilgrims, pioneers and pioneers more than three hundred years ago.

The question of living on Mars is no longer how to live or why to live on Mars, but when and by whom.

Michael Laitman

I wrote about the idea of humans moving to Mars in an article I once published in KabNet. I’m posting the article here as it has what I have to say on the topic:

A Vision of Humans on Mars in the Year 2100

This is a story about our journey to Mars.

It’s the year 2100. Over 11 billion people inhabit the planet. Heightened global warming caused the sea to rise over coastal regions and islands, displacing hundreds of millions of people.

Many of them didn’t make it.

Diseases, impoverished conditions, famine and wars caused the deaths of millions more in the process.

Hope seems bleak on planet Earth. But as always the case throughout history, people await, still hopeful for better times.

Testimonials of Mars’ first inhabitants portray it as humanity’s safehaven. In the meantime, on Earth people suffer ecological, economic, social and psychological peril.

I have published an article on KabNet, a website related to Kabbalah education and research, about the idea of human migration to Mars. I'm posting this article here because it has my thoughts on the topic:

In the year 2100, mankind has a vision of Mars

This is a story about our journey to Mars.

It's the year 2100 and there are more than 11 billion people on the planet. Rising global warming is leading to rising sea levels in coastal areas and islands, displacing hundreds of millions of people.

Many of them did not survive.

Disease, poverty, famine and war have led to countless deaths in the process.

Hope on Earth seems slim. But as has always been the case throughout history, people are still waiting, still holding out hope for better times.

The testimonies of the first inhabitants of Mars portray it as a haven for humanity. At the same time, on Earth, people are exposed to ecological, economic, social and psychological dangers.