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The author | the Car East-West team
Edited by | Xiaohan
Musk's latest interview is coming, 55 minutes and 55 questions, and the golden sentences continue!
Just yesterday, Musk was invited to attend the TED 2022 conference speech, and had a more than 50-minute conversation with Chris Anderson, the head of TED, starting from Musk's recent tens of billions of dollars to buy Twitter, and also talked about sensitive topics such as Musk's "securities fraud" and whether he was the real founder of Tesla, and finally talked about life philosophy.
TED is a private, nonprofit organization in the United States, known for its TED conference, which aims to "spread everything worth spreading." TED was born in 1984 by Richard Saul Uman. Since 2001, Chris Anderson has taken over TED, founding The Sapling Foundation and running the TED Conference. Every March, the TED Conference convenes many outstanding figures in science, design, literature, music and other fields in North America to share their thoughts and explorations on technology, society and people.
Musk at the TED site
As the closing speaker of the 2022 TED Conference, Musk shows that his influence is very strong. TED officials described Musk's speech this way -
"Time has passed since we met in Vancouver three years ago for the TED Conference. Everything is different, and we are facing a new, wonderful, and celebratory era. The future is coming to us with extraordinary possibilities that we dare not imagine, in medicine, AI, clean energy... And the way we work and learn, and even the basic economy and the all-encompassing social system, are undergoing profound changes. ”
▲ TED official description
In this show, Musk did not speak alone on stage, as usual TED Speakers did. Chris Anderson, the head of TED, shared the stage with Musk for a face-to-face interview. Throughout the interview, Musk's golden sentences were frequently published, and he also talked about a lot of exciting topics:
1) I'm not always right
2, 2022 is confident to achieve FSD
3, the development potential of humanoid robots will be much greater than that of cars
4, can not let the humanoid robot for OTA
5. Consider launching Miss Robot
6, robots are cheaper than cars
7, self-exposure to the worst thing to start a business
8, lived in the factory for 3 years, running around like a madman
9) I know more about manufacturing than anyone alive
All in all, this nearly hour of conversation is informative and wonderful, and it is an important window to understand Musk. The following is a full compilation of the actual recording of this video dialogue by Che Dongxi, and in order to meet the Chinese read it slightly.
First, we are confident of solving the problem of fully autonomous driving this year
Chris Anderson: In a few minutes, Elon Musk will come to the stage and have a conversation with me. Before that, let's take a look at my previous interview with him at Tesla's factory in Texas. The day before the opening ceremony of Tesla's Texas Gigafactory, I had the privilege of being invited to visit that Gigafactory and visit Elon Musk's Gigafactory in advance, and I responsibly tell you that it was really shocking.
▲Outside Tesla's Texas factory
In Musk's view, a sustainable future is not just about producing electric vehicles, but about building a system that can produce a large number of electric vehicles. After obtaining a certain profit, it is able to fund further growth.
At the time, when I was at the Texas factory, I wasn't sure if Musk would come to our show, so I took the opportunity to record a lengthy interview with him, and now I'll show 8 minutes of that footage.
The following is a transcript of the video conversation of the interview:
1. Chris Anderson: Now let's talk about a question about artificial intelligence. I'm curious about your timeline, how do you predict things in the future? Some of the things you predict are surprisingly accurate, while others are not. When it comes to predicting sales of Tesla vehicles, you're predicting very accurately. In 2014, Tesla cars sold 60,000 units a year, and you said at the time that Tesla would sell 500,000 units a year by 2020.
Musk: Yeah, we sold almost exactly 500,000 cars in 2020.
2. Chris Anderson: Five years ago, when you were last at TED, I interviewed you about self-driving. At the time you said yes, this year (2022) I was confident that Tesla would have a car driving from Los Angeles to New York without any intervention.
Elon Musk: I'm not always right.
3. Chris Anderson: So let's talk about the difference between the two. Why is the time for FSD to be implemented so unpredictable?
Musk: There are a lot of problems with self-driving, and sometimes you think you've solved the problem, but in the end you find that you're just running into a ceiling problem. If you use a chart to describe the progress, then [autonomous driving R&D] is like a series of logarithmic curves, the progress starts to rise in a straight line, and then it starts to fall, and your return (R&D progress) is decreasing. But to solve FSD, you have to solve real-world AI. Road networks are designed as biological neural networks – that is, the brain and vision (eyes) work together, and in order for the brain and eyes to work with computers, real-world AI and vision need to be solved.
▲ A logarithmic curve function
4. Chris Anderson: Do you think it's possible that the logarithmic curve won't turn around quickly with an architecture you have now?
Musk: To be honest, I admit that what I'm talking about next may be seen as drawing a pie, but I'm actually confident that Tesla will fix this this year.
5. Chris Anderson: Is there such a factor, in fact, you are deliberately making a prediction table with a higher timeline to motivate the confidence and morale of Tesla employees. If you don't have fighting spirit, you can't do anything. Recently you made a surprising statement, you said that Tesla may be going to do the most important product development this year, is tesla humanoid robot Optimus? Didn't the process of developing autonomous driving give you the confidence to do something special in this area?
▲ Tesla humanoid robot
Elon Musk: Yeah, it took me some time to realize that to solve the problem of autonomous driving, you need to really solve the real-world ARTIFICIAL intelligence. A smart car is actually a robot with four wheels, and then you can extend it a little further and think of it as a robot with legs. What we need at the moment is basically intelligence in the real world and expanding manufacturing scale, which are two things that Tesla is very good at, so we basically only need to design the specialized actuators and sensors needed for humanoid robots.
People have not yet realized that the development potential of humanoid robots will be far greater than that of automobiles.
6. Chris Anderson: I think the first application of humanoid robots that you mentioned might be manufacturing, but ultimately the vision is for people to use these things at home.
Musk: Very correct.
7 Chris Anderson: If you have a robot that understands the three-dimensional structure of your house, knows where or should every object in the house be, and is able to identify all objects. It's a bit surprising, so what would you let the robot do? Cleaning and tidying up?
ELON MUSK: Yes.
8 Chris Anderson: Making dinner and mowing the lawn.
Musk: Pour tea for Grandma, read family photo albums with her, and take care of my Grandma.
9 Chris Anderson: To be precise, robots can recognize everyone in the house and can play a game of catching balls with your children.
ELON MUSK: Yes. I mean, obviously we need to be careful not to turn into a dystopia. One of the most important things is to install a localized ROM chip on the robot, which cannot be upgraded by an OTA. Once you or anyone else gives a "stop, stop" command to the robot, the robot stops. This kind of robot cannot be updated remotely. I think it's important to have such a security feature.
10 Chris Anderson: Yeah, that sounds sensible.
Musk: In that regard, I think there should be a regular regulatory body. I've been saying this for years, and while I don't like being regulated, public safety is an important thing.
Chris Anderson: Do you think robots will appear in most homes in 2050 or at some point in the world? People might think you'll basically have your own butler.
Musk: Yeah, people let robots do something.
12 Chris Anderson: You'll have your robot butler.
Musk: Yeah, you're going to have your robot buddies, for the most part.
13 Chris Anderson: How many programs do you think it would take to write a robot to become a human sexual/love partner? You know that when robots become human partners, they can't avoid the topic of sex.
Musk: I did say on the Internet that Tesla would make robot call girls.
Musk tweeted whether Tesla wants to produce Catgirl robots
Both sides laughed...
Musk laughed
Musk: That's what people really want...
14 Chris Anderson: When do you think the first humanoid robots will be produced and sold?
Musk: Tesla tends to apply robots first and foremost to jobs that are dangerous, boring, repetitive, and people don't want to do. This year, we might produce an interesting prototype robot, and most likely within two years, we'll do something useful out of it. Then, the practicality of humanoid robots will grow rapidly year by year, the cost will be reduced, and the scale of production will expand.
15 Chris Anderson: To what extent do you think the cost will be?
Musk: Actually I don't think the cost is going to be ridiculously high, it should be lower than the cost of a car.
16. Chris Anderson: But if you can pay $25,000 (about 160,000 yuan) in one lump sum, buy a robot to replace a worker with an annual salary of $30,000 to $40,000 (about 190,000 yuan to 255,000 yuan), and the workers also need to pay annual wages, and the robot can work longer without vacation. I mean, robots are likely to quickly replace certain types of jobs. Will the world be worried about this?
Musk: I'm not worried about people losing their jobs. We've got a severe shortage of labor, and it's going to be exacerbated in the future, so I don't think there will be any unemployment in the future, and there will still be a shortage of labor. It would be ridiculous if the world were to have an abundance of everything, any goods and services would be available to anyone who needed them, and the goods and services would be very cheap.
Second, the acquisition of Twitter for free speech became an accident of traffic
Chris Anderson: Everybody's interest in Musk's live streaming, here's one of the links that I think is important – live streaming. Welcome listeners from all over the world to TED2022, we are listening to those with lofty ideals this week about the next era of humanity, and we will invite the most far-sighted among them - Elon Musk!
17 Chris Anderson: Hi Elon, welcome! Elon, a few hours ago, you made a proposal to buy Twitter, why?
Musk tweeted to buy Twitter
Musk: How do you know?
18 Chris Anderson: I don't know.
Musk: By the way, have you seen the movie "Teddy Bear"?
19 Chris Anderson: I've seen it, so I have a question, why is this proposal being made?
Musk: Oh well, well, I think it's very important to have an inclusive free speech stage.
I think twitter, whether it's asked or not, should open source its algorithms, and they should let people know that people are free to speak within the scope of the law, which is very important. Therefore, whether it is algorithms or artificial, there should be no problem of behind-the-scenes manipulation.
20 Chris Anderson: But when we talked last week, you were still talking about not wanting to buy Twitter, it was a source of pain for you, everyone would blame you for all the problems, what exactly changed your mind?
Musk: No, I think I bought Twitter, and people will still blame me for everything. Everybody twittered, but if something went wrong, it was 100 percent my fault. I'm going to get hurt and sad.
21 Chris Anderson: But you still want to do it, why?
Musk: I mean I hope it's not too miserable, but I still think it's important and interesting, just as Twitter is important to democracy. In addition, it is also important to the United States and other countries, and in fact it helps the rest of the world more widely in freedom than the United States. So if we can increase trust in Twitter as a public platform, the risk to human civilization will be reduced. So I think it's going to be a bit painful, and I don't know if I'm really going to be able to get it, and my intention is to keep the legally permissible shareholders of private companies, at around 2,000 people.
We're not coming from the perspective of how to monopolize or maximize my ownership of Twitter, but we try to take on the responsibilities we can take on.
22 Chris Anderson: You don't necessarily want to pay $40 or whatever $1 billion in cash, do you? You want them to do this with you, right?
Musk: I think I can afford it. But I would say that this is not the way to make money. Rather, I feel that if there is a public platform that can be trusted and accommodated to the maximum, it will be very important for future civilizations. But those numbers you said, I don't care.
23 Chris Anderson: Okay, I see what you mean, it's not about money, it's about doing something more moral. You describe yourself as an absolutist of free speech, but does that mean that people have nothing they can't say and can say?
Musk: Well, I think it's obvious that Twitter or any forum is governed by the laws of the country where it's located. Therefore, it is clear that the United States has some restrictions on freedom of expression. Of course, Twitter also had to abide by these correct rules.
24 Chris Anderson: So you can't incite people to violence, like you can directly incite violence. For example, you know you can't shout a fire in a movie theater.
Musk: Yes, it's a crime.
25 Chris Anderson: But the problem is that there are subtle differences between different things. Unlawful acts of violence do not work, but some forms of hate speech do.
Someone tweeted that I hated a politician. It's okay. And the other tweet was I wanted a politician to be dead, with a picture of them on it, a muzzle of a gun, or plus their address. I mean, at some point, someone has to make a decision about what's bad, and algorithms can do that, and of course at some point you also need humans to make a judgment.
Musk: No, in my opinion, Twitter should be in line with national laws and obligated to do so. But if that violates that and it's not clear who's doing what modifications to whom, letting tweets be promoted and downgraded without insight, and having black-box algorithms promote some specific content, I think it might be quite dangerous.
26 Chris Anderson: So the idea of an open Twitter algorithm is a very influential decision that I think a lot of people will welcome and want to understand exactly how it's decided, and will criticize and comment on it.
Musk: I want to improve it, like putting the code on github. You can ask questions and suggest changes, just like you would update your Linux code.
▲ Open source website GitHub
27 Chris Anderson: Now there's an idea that what algorithms need to do is look at how many people flag a tweet as illegal, and then at some point, manually look at it and determine if it's illegal. But algorithms can't tell whether it's legal, good or bad, so the question is who is going to tell if a tweet is illegal. Twitter, Facebook, and other companies hire thousands of people to judge and decide if the images you send are illegal. But the problem is that no one makes an informed judgment.
Elon Musk: Well, if you have questions about this question, let's leave it at that. Because if it's a gray area, I'd say let Twitter exist. But obviously you know that there may be a lot of controversy in a case, and you don't want to promote that tweet. And, I don't know all the answers.
But I'm sure we're just very reluctant to delete things, just very careful about them. But overall, Twitter won't be perfect, but I think we want to really have as much free speech as possible. A good sign is that people you don't like are allowed to say something you don't like, and if so, then we have freedom of speech, and when someone you don't like says something you don't like, it's a sign of a healthy functioning free speech situation and of course it's annoying.
28 Chris Anderson: I think a lot of people will agree with that, so we look at the reaction online, and a lot of people are excited about your arrival and the changes you're proposing, but others are absolutely horrified. These people will say wait a minute, we agree that Twitter is a very important "town square", a place where people in the world exchange opinions and discuss places about life and death, how it can be owned by the richest people in the world, it is impossible. So how do you do it? I mean, there's something you can do to guarantee content and convince people in some very clear way.
Musk: Any manual adjustment will be recognized. For example, if this tweet, if someone does something on Twitter, there will be a message sent, you know they tweeted. But if someone does something to facilitate downgrading or otherwise influence a tweet, such as the ordering of ownership of the media. I mean, you know, Zuckerberg owns Facebook and Instagram and Whatsapp, so he still controls those social media. But we're not going to do those things on Twitter.
29 Chris Anderson: If you commit to open source Twitter algorithms, that's definitely giving people a certain level of confidence. Talk about some of the other changes you've proposed, so how are you going to fix the edit button?
Musk: Yeah, my priority is to eliminate spam and scam bots and the bot army on Twitter, and you know I think those effects make the product worse.
30 Chris Anderson: But just on the edit button, how do you get around the question: Someone tweeted "I'm Elon Rocks" and two million people retweeted the message, and then they edited the message to become "I am Elon Sucks", and then all these retweets made them embarrassed, how do you avoid that, to avoid the retweets being taken advantage of?
Musk: I think we can only have editing capabilities in a very short period of time, and what we might have to do when editing is to zero out all the retweets and favorites.
31 Chris Anderson: All right. I wanted to show you a tweet I sent myself, and it's true that the text is a bit lame and rambunctious, but I actually got 97 likes. Then I posted another one (tweeting that Musk was going to be a guest TED for a talk) and 29,000 likes! So this algorithm, at least for now, is Elon Musk's traffic password.
Elon Musk: Yeah, it's really cool.
32 Chris Anderson: You do build your own huge fan base on Twitter, but some people think that a lot of your tweets are somewhere between awkward and crazy. So is that the reason it's successful?
Elon Musk: I don't know. But my tweets were more or less stream-of-consciousness, because a lot of the stuff I posted wasn't really a grand plan, I just like most people, thought it was funny, and then I took my phone and sent it out while squatting in the toilet or somewhere else. That's over-sharing (laughs).
33 Chris Anderson: But you seem obsessed with getting the most out of every minute of your day, so why not?
Musk: I don't know, I just tried to tweet something interesting, but surprisingly a lot of people still like the stuff I posted.
34 Chris Anderson: So if you don't succeed in investing in Twitter, how do you protect your money?
Musk: I have money, and this is not a forward-looking statement. I mean, actually, even when I was working with Tesla in the first place, my money was secure.
Also, I would like to clarify one thing. The SEC's San Francisco office knew our money was in place, but they still conducted a public investigation with great fanfare. Tesla's finances were already in jeopardy at the time, and banks informed me that if I didn't agree to a settlement with the Securities and Exchange Commission, they would stop providing working capital and Tesla would go bankrupt immediately. So it's like pointing a gun at your kid's head, so I was forced to illegally concede to these bastard securities companies. And, now they say, it makes me look like I'm lying, when in fact I'm not lying, I'm forced to admit it. I lied to save Tesla's life, and that's the only reason.
Note: In August 2018, Musk tweeted that he intended to take Tesla private at $420 per share. He was subsequently indicted by the SEC, accusing him of securities fraud. In the end, Musk was forced to resign as chairman of Tesla's board of directors and serve only as CEO.
35 Chris Anderson: Consider what's actually happened to Tesla since then, but aren't you glad you didn't take Tesla private?
Musk: I mean, it's hard to put yourself in the position you were in at the time. At that time, Tesla was attacked by the most ruthless short sellers in the history of the stock market, and it can be said that Tesla was the most short-selling stock in the history of the stock market. It actually affects our ability to hire people and sell cars. Those short-selling agencies just want to put Tesla to death.
36 Chris Anderson: I mean, a lot of people who support you will say that you bring a lot to the world. So don't waste your time on these battles that bring negativity, it will make people feel like you're defensive.
Musk: Well, I mean I'm a hybrid.
37 Chris Anderson: You're a fighter, you don't like to lose.
Elon Musk: Of course, I don't like to lose. But truth is important to me, and my attachment to truth is even a little morbid.
38 Chris Anderson: Okay, so you don't like to fail. But if you don't succeed in this situation – I mean if Twitter's board doesn't accept your offer and you've said it, you're not going to pay a higher price. So you prepared a Plan B?
Musk: Yes.
39 Chris Anderson: I think we'd like to hear a little bit about Plan B.
Musk: Next time.
Third, it was the real founder of Tesla who saved Tesla for those three years like hell
40 Chris Anderson: Okay. Let's change the subject. In fact, when we were curating this episode, we asked a lot of questions that we wanted to ask you, and one of the questions was interesting – if you could go back in time and change a decision you made in your past life, which one would it be, and why?
Musk: You mean career decision or what?
41 Chris Anderson: Any decision you've made in the last few years, like you decided to invest in Twitter in the first place, or anything you can do.
Musk: Well, I mean, the worst business decision I've ever made was not to have j. B. Straubel co-founded Tesla. It was the worst decision I've ever made, not one of them.
42、Chris Anderson：J. B. Straubel is a visionary co-founder who is fascinated and very knowledgeable about batteries.
Musk: Tesla was a shell company with no employees and no intellectual property at the time of my investment, but one of the other co-founders, Martin Eberhard, concocted a false narrative — I don't want to talk about these dirty things here, but I really didn't invest in a physical company that actually existed at the time.
Eventually, Tesla was created by J. B. Straubel and I did, unfortunately, there was a guy and another co-founder who said it was he who created the company, which is not true.
43, Chris Anderson: In the development process of Tesla Model 3, is there still a problem? Tesla nearly went bankrupt, you mentioned before, partly because you overestimated the extent to which factory automation was possible at the time, spent a lot of money, was a little over-automated, but didn't succeed, almost brought the company down, right?
Musk: I mean, the first thing to understand is what Tesla has accomplished, which is the most notable. Tesla's difficulty isn't creating electric cars or creating electric car prototypes or small batch production cars, and for years there have been hundreds of automotive startups across the U.S. market. Yes, so the hard part is not creating a prototype or starting small batch production.
The real difficulty is what a lot of American auto companies haven't done in 100 years — reaching mass production without going bankrupt, which is the really difficult thing.
44 Chris Anderson: Right. Tesla did.
Musk: We basically messed up almost every aspect of the Model 3 production line, from the battery to the battery pack, to the body line, the paint shop, the final assembly, everything was messed up. I lived in factories in Fremont and Nevada, where I lived for three years, repairing production lines, running around every part of the factory like a lunatic, living with the team. That's when I slept on the floor, because then the team members who were going through the difficulties could see me sleeping on the floor instead of in the ivory tower, and they would know that no matter what pain they were experiencing, I was there.
45 Chris Anderson: But some people who know you well actually think that you've made the terrible mistake of pushing yourself almost to the edge of reason, which means you run the risk of making the wrong choice.
In fact, I heard you say last week that you're going to make every minute meaningful because of the tremendous value Tesla is now. It sounds like you're in danger of getting to the edge of reason by being too time-conscious. That doesn't sound particularly sensible.
Musk: I mean, there was no other way to bring Tesla back to life. I almost lived in hell for those three years. （2017-2019）
These three years were the longest painful period of my life, but there was nothing else we could do because we were on the verge of bankruptcy. So you think I want to go through pain, but I don't. But these pains must be done, or Tesla will die.
46 Chris Anderson: After three years, what do you think Tesla has in manufacturing?
Elon Musk: At this point, I think I know more about manufacturing than anyone alive on the planet. Yes, I can tell you how every damn part on that car was made. If you had just lived in a factory for three years and been hitting these machines for six weeks straight, you would be just like me.
47 Chris Anderson: I learned that you are working on a new master plan, and you think that scale production is at the core of this plan, why do you think that scale production is so important?
Musk: At the moment we still rely on fossil fuels, and we should achieve sustainable energy development, so we must use wind, solar, hydro, geothermal and even nuclear energy (I am a believer in nuclear energy, and I have discussed it). But solar and wind energy are indirect, so there have to be fixed batteries, and then we're going to convert all the vehicles to electric, and we're going to do these things with the potential for a sustainable future.
▲Tesla solar panels
So the faster the scale of production, the smaller our impact on the environment, the production of batteries is obviously a requirement to promote sustainable development, we estimate that about 300 TWh of batteries are needed to store electricity, transitioning to a society that is completely electric.
48 Chris Anderson: To achieve something like this, you need to install more than 1,000 times the battery, which is a very amazing thing, in addition to what Tesla did, but also to call on others to do the rest, this is the task of humans, through a lot of work to cope with energy changes.
Elon Musk: Yeah, I think so. How quickly we can scale up and encourage others to scale up is the basis for reaching 300 TWh batteries, and then we also need to recycle these batteries, the raw materials are like high-quality ore, even if the battery pack can't be used, his value is about $1,000 (about 6366 yuan).
This is what is needed for a sustainable energy future, so we are taking a range of actions to accelerate the realization of a sustainable energy future.
It makes sense to write programming all night Musk said I love humans deeply
49 Chris Anderson: I'm going to be very interested in the release of the third part of your master plan, you claimed to have Asperger's syndrome on Saturday Night Live, and I'd love to know what you think about Asperger's syndrome? Even we really want to know about your experiences as children.
Musk (center) on Saturday night
Musk: I think everyone's experience will be different, but for me, I'm more like a nerd, not very good at socializing, which makes me a lot of bullying. Frankly, I didn't have a happy childhood, which was terrible, but I read a lot of books and gradually learned more from the books I read and the movies I watched. But it still took me a while to understand what most people intuitively feel.
50 Chris Anderson: So I wonder if this affects you in a strange way, indirectly affecting a lot of people as well. The human brain is malleable, and for some reason, many people spend a lot of time, energy, and mental energy obsessing over the outside world and society, and if this behavior is cut off, it may allow you to understand the inner world on a deeper level than most people.
Musk: I guess it's certainly possible and it's also valuable from a technical point of view, because I find it makes a lot of sense to spend a whole night programming a computer, and I'm sure most people don't like typing weird symbols into a computer all night, they think it's not fun, but I really like it.
So I would program alone all night, which I thought was funny, but I knew it wasn't normal.
51 Chris Anderson: Every entrepreneur sees the possibilities of the future and then takes action to make it a reality. So you'll see the possibilities of science based on a deep understanding of physics and know what the basic equations are and what they can achieve. You'll see the possibilities of technology, combine economics with possibilities, get the actual cost, and then you can imagine a system where you can afford that thing that you made, and sometimes you're convinced that putting some pieces together can do something amazing.
Musk: Yeah, I think I'm absolutely obsessed with truth no matter what my conditions are, and that obsession with truth is why I studied physics because physics tries to understand the truth, the truth of the universe, the truth of the universe, the truth of prediction. For me, no one asked me to study physics, it was just a very natural study to understand the nature of the universe.
The second is computer science or information theory, which I am also very interested in.
52 Chris Anderson: Are you talking about the truth of the universe like the fundamental truth that drives the universe, like a deep curiosity about what the universe is, and why is it?
Musk: When I was a young man, I was very frustrated with the meaning of life, I tried to understand the meaning of life through religious texts, and I also read a lot of books by German philosophers, which is definitely unwise for a young person.
Finally I read The Guide to the Galaxy, which is actually a book about philosophy, just disguised as a silly comedy novel, and Douglas Adams points out that questions are actually harder than answers.
▲"Galaxy Roaming Guide"
53 Chris Anderson: This is actually a pursuit of the problem, how do you think about it?
Musk: There's a suggestion for a worldview or a motivational philosophy about understanding what questions to ask. If we expand the scope and scale of consciousness beyond biology and numbers, we will be able to better ask questions and understand why we are here, how we got here, what the hell is going on, so that's my driving philosophy, expanding the scope and scale of consciousness so that we can better understand the nature of the universe.
54 Chris Anderson: One of the most touching things last week was seeing you hanging out with your kids. What kind of future do you think he will grow up in?
Musk: He vaguely looks like a ventriloquist dummy, how do you know he's real. (Laughs) I feel like he's going to grow up in a very digital future, a world that's very different from the environment in which I grew up, but we all want to do our best to make sure that the future is good for everyone's kids, and that the future should be something we can look forward to and not feel sorry for.
Every morning when you get up, you should be very excited about the future, which will make us struggle for things that we are excited about the future, the future can not be just one tragic thing after another, and then deal with the tragic things one after another, the future will definitely have things that make you excited, like you want to live, which is very important.
55 Chris Anderson: But in terms of the future, there are still some very scary things, you see a road that connects Earth and Mars, and we are excited by artificial intelligence and things like that, but do you really believe in your heart that you are bringing exciting futures to other people.
Musk: I'm doing my best to do that, I love humanity, we should fight for a better future for humanity, we should be optimistic about the future, and we should fight for that optimistic future.
Chris Anderson: I think it's the best time to end this discussion, thank you so much for taking the time to be here, thank you for the work you've done, good luck, thank you.