Editor-in-Chief's Foreword:
"Record Of Chinese Medicine" has always been concerned about the role of Chinese medicine in the new crown epidemic, and we have also interviewed the famous Uncle De in Guangdong many times. I believe that friends who often pay attention to our content are not strangers. He has been to Wuhan in Hubei, Xingtai in Hebei, Ruili in Yunnan, Yingkou in Liaoning, and now he is in Guangzhou and continues to participate in the prevention, control and treatment of the new crown epidemic. In the interview we have just completed, we once again conducted an interview and exchange of treatment ideas and treatment methods of Traditional Chinese medicine in the face of the new crown epidemic, and hope to have some inspiration and help for everyone.

Zhou Bing: Hello Uncle De
Zhang Zhongde: Zhou Bing, Zhou Daohao.
Zhou Bing: I'm sorry, you are so busy and bother you. I see that you have been on the front line of the epidemic in the past six months, Wuhan, Hebei, Yunnan, right? And Liaoning you also went.
Zhang Zhongde: It was only three days after I came back from Liaoning, and I came back on May 26.
Zhou Bing: After coming back, there is now an epidemic in Guangzhou, so we would like to interview you by phone, mainly some content of TCM epidemic prevention. Isn't the treatment of the epidemic in different places, Wuhan, Xingtai, and Ruili in Yunnan, you also went to Liaoning, are these treatment plans the same, or are they different?
Zhang Zhongde: The treatment plan of Chinese medicine is the same, and there are also different. The same we mean is that the treatment plan of TCM called the search for core disease mechanisms is the same above. But in terms of what it specifically falls into the treatment of drugs, because Chinese medicine has changed slightly according to its regional differences, but the general direction is the same. For example, most of the use of "three parties and three drugs" at the same time, according to the local living environment, living habits, environmental factors, climatic factors and the patient's physique have some small differences, to some local differences in some things into, but overall still unchanged, first of all, its core disease mechanism has not changed, its cause is unchanged, prescription medication is roughly the same, but there are appropriate adjustments.
Zhou Bing: If we talk about this idea from the perspective of the Junchen Zuo envoy of Chinese medicine, then which one is the "three parties and three medicines"?
Zhang Zhongde: Ephedra, plaster.
Zhou Bing: Then you said the general conditions of the prescription, because I have also learned a lot of Chinese medicine treatment methods in recent years, so this time in the north you seem to be using a combination of typhoid fever and warm disease to treat, but Guangdong and the south seem to be more of a method of warm disease?
Zhang Zhongde: Yes, we still use the method of wen disease in Guangdong in Yunnan to treat it, but there are also some patients who use the tongfang "lung clearing and detoxification soup" for treatment. At the same time, some patients, when the symptoms of "lung clearing and detoxification soup" are not particularly suitable, we will switch to the prescription of warm disease.
Zhou Bing: You just mentioned one, because of different geographical environments, different eating habits, different adjustments, which kind of medicine is regulated, or what additions and subtractions are made?
Zhang Zhongde: In principle, we do not make big adjustments, but if it is in the southern region, the humidity and heat are relatively heavy, then we will increase the amount of plaster and herbs. Because it is our southern region, Yunnan, Guangxi, Fujian, Guangdong this side of the summer and humidity is very heavy, this kind of May day, April and March, some places are already very hot, different from the north. When we went to Liaoning in March, it was already twenty-eighty-nine degrees and thirty degrees, and it rained again, so the summer humidity was very heavy, so we increased the heat-relieving and wet-reducing drugs in it, and we mainly reduced the wetness of the surface, so we were in (plus) the amount of herbs and gypsum would be larger, and the amount of heat and humidity would be more, such as barley, coix, some of which we would increase the amount of Cangshu, anyway, we are targeting the southern region, this is the summer and humidity of the climate from March to May, Combined with the degree of heating to adjust appropriately, the effect is very good.
Zhou Bing: This time Guangzhou has undergone some changes, and then everyone is also paying more attention, this time is also based on the "three parties and three medicines" as the core?
Zhang Zhongde: There are "three parties and three drugs", there are also "lung clearing detoxification soup", there are also some good drugs in Guangdong itself to fight against the new crown, plus this time the disease is a different strain, so in terms of drug use, we use the three together, the original Guangdong's better party "pneumonia no. 1 party", and then "lung detoxification soup", plus combined with the current, we also choose our "Dachai Hu soup", "Fuzheng lung soup".
Zhou Bing: "Da Chai Hu Tang" is from the Typhoid Fever Sutra.
Zhang Zhongde: Yes, when we were in Wuhan, we also used "Da Chai Hu Tang" as the main treatment, in addition to "Da Chai Hu Tang", there was also our own group of four reverse soup plus minus "FuZheng Lung Saving Soup".
Zhou Bing: Is Fuzheng saving the lungs inspired by Wen Disease?
Zhang Zhongde: No, our Fuzheng lung rescue is mainly for the emergence of some severe patients with new crown pneumonia, it is the most evil and impure, but the righteous qi is also weak, and the four reverse soups are given in it at the same time as detoxification.
Zhou Bing: My own personal feeling is that no matter whether it is every epidemic, in fact, Zhang Zhongjing's typhoid fever theory has always been very magical, there should be 1700 years of inheritance, it is still valid, many people do not know this information, in fact, I want to spread this information again and again, that is, the inheritance of our Chinese medicine.
Zhang Zhongde: Yes, one is Wu Jutong, one is Ye Tianshi, one is Wu Youke, these three are warm and sick, plus Zhang Zhongjing, who is miscellaneous, this fight against the epidemic should mainly come from the theoretical system and basic formula of the four people. No matter what you do in the future, all the parties are adjusted and cut out from the theoretical system within these four people and his original party according to the differences of the present.
Zhou Bing: From Wu Youke to Ye Tianshi to Wu Jutong, there is a lineage of nearly 100 years between them, and then they have been solving various plagues and plagues that have emerged in China.
Zhang Zhongde: Yes, especially in the southern region, he is particularly instructive to us.
Zhou Bing: Why is he particularly instructive?
Zhang Zhongde: Because their drugs are here, they also summarize the humid temperature in the Lingnan region, Zhejiang, southern Fujian, and this temperature uses the temperature disease theory system, which is also called the plague or epidemic theory system, which is a kind of wet poison, depression knot, heat dampness, poison, heat, and depression that appear in this season. So you see many of us, he has not seen the prescription of Wen Disease, they prescribe some pieces of bitter cold medicine, all of which are Qingqing and Qinghua, but Wen Disease everyone especially emphasizes Fuzheng.
Zhou Bing: What is the medicine that helps correct the lungs?
Zhang Zhongde: Dried ginger, appendages.
Zhou Bing: Dried ginger, appendages, this is also somewhat similar to Fuyang's theory.
Zhang Zhongde: So we have patients with yang qi deficiency for these patients, and when this kind of wet poison and evil is very heavy, Guangqing cannot be cleared, and light solution cannot be solved.
Zhou Bing: Actually, this time I heard that there are many comprehensive applications and treatment methods, including the method of Zhang Zhongjing in the Han Dynasty, the method of Wu Youke in the Ming Dynasty, Wu Jutong in the Qing Dynasty, including Ye Tianshi and so on you said, and finally the theory of Fuyang, he is actually a very comprehensive collection of various treatment programs, right?
Zhang Zhongde: Yes, so he is the profundity of Chinese medicine, a manifestation of the three-cause condition, dialectical treatment, he not only keeps the essence of ancient times, he does not only look at the ancient times, he wants to look at the physique of modern people, the living environment of modern people, the current symptoms and symptoms change, each era is different, if each era is the same, then Wu Youke, Ye Tianshi, Wu Jutong, they do not have to change, they are also changing.
Zhou Bing: Do you think the biggest change this time is that there is a point in the new thinking? Or is there an innovative change?
Zhang Zhongde: The innovative change is that in the process of application, this generation of Chinese medicine people will use it comprehensively and not exclude it. Neither typhoid fever nor temperature disease is excluded, and warm disease can be combined with typhoid fever. I think this is the benefit of it, judged by the efficacy of the patient, not by the door, more inclusive and more comprehensive. Ancient people had different ways of obtaining information than modern people, and those who read "Typhoid Fever" in the past must have to understand things in the South, which is quite difficult, right? Now different, the world's things, an hour I can understand clearly, its comprehensive information is even bigger, the composition of this prescription medicine in the north is really based on typhoid fever, the northerners look at his south is really based on this, but there is a small part of the two is communication, he will have a comprehensive. So now people, learning to tolerate the industry is wider, easier to synthesize. So I feel that this time the innovation is that typhoid fever and mild disease are unified in this fight against the epidemic, and they play their respective strengths together and integrate them for treatment.
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