Interview | Zhang Liang
Talk about | Cao Xuanbin
Record | Suo Yu
As a recorder, this is probably the most special interview I have ever seen, before which I had never participated in an interview at 1 a.m., after which I suddenly felt that my life had been sublimated, and it seemed that I could win the title of some fighter who wore stars and wore the moon and fought tenaciously.
Cao Xuanbin, a musical talent who exudes a cultural atmosphere, is really a good man, at least, a young man with three qualities - sentient, talented, and energetic.
Please feel the life of this explosive combat power casually: the first three months of the conference received the demand to write the theme song for the Qin Merchant Hundred People, and then took a little gap in the busy schedule, and the lyrics, composition, and production were all completed in three months. Everyone pondered and pondered, without this "three haves" foundation, can there be such an effect? Without affection, you may not take this job; without talent, you can't take this job; without motivation, you can't do this job well.
At this time, I actually thought of the ancestor of the Qin people, Fei Lian, the man with the general wind, and then looked at the eyes, what kind of efficient young man was this?
At this time, I even remembered the three hardness of Qin Shang, the hardness of people, the hardness of goods, and the hardness of temper. Look at the man in front of you again, this wave of operation hardcore is not it? Is it hard or not? Is the work hard or not? Tough or not? This kind of work is also picked up, you say that the temper is not hard?
The following is an efficient interview program between Qin Shang Hundred People and Cao Xuanbin, and it is recommended that the audience and friends quickly prepare a small bench to watch the hard-core youth with us
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Zhang Liang: "Qin Shang Hundred People's Association" may give the outside world the feeling of being commercial, as a musician with very cultural feelings, why are you willing to do the theme song of Qin Shang Hundred People's Association?
✤ Cao Xuanbin: The current era is so commercial and the speed is so fast, which makes me feel more and more that "spirit" is a very valuable point. Recently, I was rehearsing the musical "Qu Yuan", and I often shared with the producers my understanding of the character of "Qu Yuan" and some personal attitudes that I wanted to express, which would play a very important spiritual role. Qu Yuan's spirit has influenced the whole world.
This script, I will silently recite the lines every morning on the way from home to the rehearsal hall, every time I read Qu Yuantoujiang's scene, I will cry, I will really be moved by him, from the bottom of my heart, I feel that his personal spirit is very great, is a spirit that is particularly scarce in modern society. His worldview is too big, so he will have such a high pattern of life, and the mentality, those feelings, the spirit and thoughts he had when he threw himself into the river were very similar to mine. Of course, I can't compare with Qu Yuan, but this kind of thinking and spirit, as well as the attitude toward the truth, even if it can't be understood, is something I will insist on in my own life.
Although I can't talk about "achievements" today, every achievement stems from the spiritual attitude of pursuing the truth, which should come from the immortal spirit in the bones and blood of the Qin people. It is also because it matches the three views of Mr. Feng Lun, chairman of the Chamber of Commerce, so the creation of this song is very smooth and smooth, it carries the humanistic value and spiritual quality of the Qin people. At the same time, I also feel that the Qin merchants will be able to condense the spirit of the Qin people in modern society into a particularly large spiritual force and do more influential things.
Zhang Liang: You and Feng always have a very similar place, there is a feeling in doing things, not completely for commercial purposes. Many people think that Feng is always a businessman who is very different from a businessman, and many of the things he does may not be done by a businessman. You give me the same impression that you are very persistent in doing things, and there is a feeling of total commitment. Watching your performances on the Internet and on TV is also this feeling, the feeling of full immersion, across the screen, everyone can also feel, this is particularly touching.
✤ Cao Xuanbin: Like Uncle Feng, I am a Cancer, and I am relatively emotional.
Zhang Liang: The song "Shangtu", as soon as its words came out, everyone felt very feeling, and wrote out a lot of things in the hearts of the merchants, and at the same time you are a Shaanxi person, and you have some understanding of Shaanxi culture and the personality characteristics of Shaanxi people, after all, the spiritual characteristics of Qin shang are still inseparable from the land of Shaanxi and its cultural accumulation. I'd love to know what kind of process you were going through when you conceived this song?
✤ Cao Xuanbin: When I received this matter, I immediately contacted my "super partner" and my "iron porcelain", he was the lyricist who used to create "Don't Jun Sigh" with me, and also the lyricist of our "Business Journey", but he was actually a well-known commercial photographer, and many of the super A commercial commercials we saw, and the covers of various celebrities in international fashion magazines were all from him. He settled in Shanghai, also the pride of the younger generation in Shaanxi, and he is the photographer Li Qi. When I first wrote "Shang Tu", I collected some key words, and I wanted to express the spirit of Qin Shang with more "points" and points that everyone could remember at once. And these keywords are recorded on the mobile phone, there are "holding the simple shouzhong", "open" and so on, but in the final creation, did not use the most straightforward expression to go.
Some time ago, I just made a TV series called "The Years of Passion" for the 70th anniversary of the Central Propaganda Department, which tells the story of overseas scientists who broke through the resistance of all sides after the founding of the People's Republic of China and returned to the motherland to devote their lives to the study of two bombs and one star. All the music of that play, including the theme song, was made and sung by me, and the dedication of the scientists to the cause and the country touched me deeply in the creative process, and it seemed that there was an inner spiritual connection. Although we are not the same profession, the same era, the spiritual core is very resonant. During the broadcast of the TV series, everyone responded that the music of this TV series is different from all the music of this genre? I think this kind of theme should not only have a slogan-style, large-scale structure and expression.
It was also when the TV series was first broadcast that Faye Wong sang a new version of "My Motherland and Me", and many people criticized Faye Wong, saying that Faye Wong's voice was not suitable for singing this song at all. And I, I believe that Faye Wong's standard does not sing ugly, this is the first; the second point, I think, her expression of this song is her own attitude, which is enough to make people recognize; third, I think patriotism can also be "warm", "soft", and not always "strong" and "slogan". When writing "Business Path", I also hoped to achieve this pursuit, to dismantle the grand theme, relate it to the details, and then sublimate the spirit and the larger worldview through the details.
Regarding the sorting of the three views, there is a personal summary, I think there is a "world view" first, because understanding how big the world is, so it will produce a view of life. Knowing which direction your life is going in the world, when you finally fall on the values, you naturally know what you can do and what you can't do. When writing this song, it is also such a way of thinking, hoping to make the "pattern" things not shouted out, nor obscure, but very specific, very subtle, very moving.
Everyone says that "the mall is ruthless", but how much emotional accumulation is behind those "ruthless"? Most people think that people who do business are very realistic, they always face the world calmly, and when all reality and calmness become a habit of ours, sometimes we may become very numb. I hope that the businessman can find an exit in my song, the exit of the heart, the outlet of emotions, and every time I hear the melody of the song "Business Path", when I see the lyrics of this song, I can feel an energy in my heart, this energy is invisible, it is a force to return to myself, not a struggle against the outside world.
Chen Daoming acted in a TV series called "Kangxi Dynasty", there is a scene in which he reprimands the civil and military officials in the main hall, he encountered various difficulties when he first became emperor, calmed down various wars, and recovered various territories, but at this moment, he felt that all the problems did not come from the outside world, but from the palace and the imperial court. It seems that all external force problems are only our internal problems, and if we have problems with ourselves, external forces cannot be solved at all, so people must constantly return to themselves.
This was also the same mentality when creating "Business Path". It is actually simpler to treat the outside world, but it is the most difficult to treat "oneself". Every sentence, every word, every detail in the lyrics is where our emotions lie. I think there must be attitudes and concepts, but there must be more details, and I believe that even strong people in the business world cannot completely strip away the most vulnerable side of human nature.
Zhang Liang: While reading the words and listening to the music, it can really make people feel moved for a long time.
✤ Cao Xuanbin: Now when writing such things, the slogan pattern is common, we want to "unite together", and the encouragement like a song is very passionate. In this regard, "The Business Journey" is a special work.
Zhang Liang: Enthusiasm may not be able to go to people's hearts.
✤ Cao Xuanbin: The world is black and white, light and dark, round and square, and contrasting. There will be a difference if there is a comparison, and there will be a change when there is a gap. Music is also like this, can not always be shouting, always "I want to keep moving forward, forward", forward, who does not know forward? Needless to say what everyone knows, find the most heartfelt things that everyone wants to say but don't say, and find the details that everyone usually ignores to express.
The lyrics of "Business Trip" were composed in a week, but the composition was a long time, and the final song was actually written in an hour, but the entire brewing process before the formation took a full 3 months.
Zhang Liang: Yes. Speaking of the difficulty of the process, there is one thing that touched me particularly deeply. Once I went to Chengdu to visit a Shaanxi guild hall built during the Kangxi dynasty of the Qing Dynasty, there was a stele in the guild hall that wrote the construction process of the guild hall, and there was an experience that made people very moved to see it. During the Qing Dynasty, the merchants in Guanzhong sold salt and tea to the southwest region, saying that shu road is difficult, it is difficult to go to Qingtian, there are many mountains in the southwest, and the road is difficult to walk, so this is a hard and tiring job, and the most people who do this work are Shaanxi merchants and Shanxi merchants, after all, they are closer. After they earned some money in the local area, they wanted to build a guild hall in Chengdu. Chengdu locals said that they could not buy a good place, and if they wanted to buy it, they would buy the pond land, and the regulations could not use the local soil to fill the pond. How did you get it later? It is to let these merchants who travel back and forth in Shu Dao pull another cart of soil on the cart when selling goods. In this way, the compatriots on the Sichuan-Shaanxi Road were mobilized to take the soil from Shaanxi to the Shu Road to fill the Pond in Chengdu, and from taking this land to the monastery, it took several years to build the guild hall, and the process was very arduous.
✤ Cao Xuanbin: Shaanxi people are really like this, very stubborn, sometimes the brain does not turn.
Zhang Liang: The personality of Shaanxi people is like this, and during the Qing Dynasty, there was an evaluation of Shaanxi merchants - hard people, hard goods, hard temper, and three hard businessmen. People are very hard, people are reliable; goods are very hard, he will not sell fake defects; temper is also more axis, not very flexible, a tendon.
✤ Cao Xuanbin: Sometimes I wonder, is it culture that influences people's thinking, or does people's thinking form the way culture is expressed? This is a question that we have been for generations, and we still do.
Zhang Liang: In the past, when everyone talked together and chatted, they would find that although the people who came out of Shaanxi to Start businesses in beijing and Shanghai were also Shaanxi people, it seemed that it was not the same when they went back to their local hometowns, and his experience was still different from the people who stayed on that side of the yellow land. Our 100 partners of the QinShang Hundred People Association come from nearly 20 provinces, basically Shaanxi people who have gone out of Shaanxi, of course, there are also some entrepreneurs who have done a good job in the local area. Mr. Feng proposed that some investment funds could be made through the Qin Shang Hundred People Association, and one of the important projects was the Angel Fund, which was specially designed to discover and invest in outstanding Shaanxi entrepreneurs around the world.
✤ Cao Xuanbin: I am looking forward to being able to do what I can in such a pattern as the Qin Shang Hundred People's Association. I am working in the field of culture, and I have always disagreed with our very traditional introduction to Shaanxi culture, saying that we are the ancient capital of the Thirteen Dynasties, how cultured, how accumulated. I said "no", what we have is more of history and culture. Although the cultural industry is not as tangible as traditional brick-and-mortar business, its extensibility and soft influence can be very large, and I hope to promote some positive changes as much as possible in my own field and resource accumulation, and have the greatest possible impact.
Why did Mr. Feng choose me to do this song? First, the fate, everyone's three views are very similar. In addition, my current age is just right to understand the upper and lower understanding. On my birthday this year, I wrote eight words in the circle of friends - "Thank you and stand, look forward to not confused." At such an age, there are also physical strength, resources, courage and confidence, I hope that through my own efforts, I can make some achievements in the cultural field and education, and also make the boundaries of the Qin Shang Hundred People Association wider.
Zhang Liang: Mr. Feng said at that time that we should make a brand that is more inclusive and has a wider extension. Our public name is Qin Xianghui, as long as it is Shaanxi dialect- and it is business, art, or culture. You can communicate here, and in this place, you can tell The culture of Shaanxi, the spirit of entrepreneurship, and everyone's stories in a very interesting way, and spread the voice of Shaanxi. We want to make the self-media a platform for cross-border exchanges between Shaanxi people, and we can't always make people feel as if Shaanxi is all Qin bricks and Han tiles, terracotta warriors, Huaqing pond... We want to tell you that there are also some things that are very modern, fashionable and fun on the loess slopes. Now there are several post-80s partners in our QinShang Hundred People Association, and in terms of age distribution, there are post-50s, post-60s, post-70s, and post-80s, and the composition elements are very rich.
✤ Cao Xuanbin: My way of thinking is very open, but it is more truth-based thinking and more attached to the inside. "What is the value of a person's life? Is it someone else's approval of you? Of course, this is the part that everyone needs, but I feel that it is a requirement for my own growth, and I have to analyze it more internally, find my own dark point, constantly change it, so that the soul's things become purer, calmer, and more innocent, and I can return to a state of "no desire and rigidity". This is the most precious thing for me, to constantly explore myself inside, to discover and in the process to find various connections with the outside, such as the connection between you and nature, you and business, you and interpersonal, you and so on.
I used to be a particularly egotistical mentality, moving from behind the scenes to the front of the curtain, and the mentality gap was very large. Producer and artist are two completely different professions, and there is no overlap of jobs at all. When I found that the circle knew your work, but not too many people actually knew about you, I wrote a paragraph - people should see themselves clearly, not look down on themselves.
The entertainment industry is a very complex circle. In the entertainment industry, it is not only necessary to test your professionalism, but also to test your emotional intelligence. When I first entered the entertainment industry and the profession of an artist, I often thought bitterly, not knowing which process offended others. But in fact, I am a person who is particularly sincere and simple in dealing with affairs, but anyone who sees a weak person will be very moved. But the more this is the case, the easier it is to be hurt in a complex environment, and then it is particularly painful, and the more painful it is, the tougher it is, and the sharper the "resistance" will be.
But people will always grow, and in this 10 years of acting career work, I have found a particularly good way to express it. Originally, I thought that evaluating a person's "high emotional intelligence" was a positive word, but then I had a different understanding of myself. I feel that when a person is the purest, purest, and most transparent, when treating others in this way, you don't need to wrap yourself in "emotional intelligence". In this way, life is more pure, more transparent, more solid.
I once said, "One must see oneself clearly, not oneself lightly." Today, we will change this sentence and call it "man must look down on himself in order to see himself clearly." Expressing yourself confidently and truthfully is actually a kind of strength.
I am engaged in music, determined to be a musician, and musicians must maintain inner purity and persistence. In this world, there will be all kinds of drastic changes every day, we must keep up with the pace of the times, but we can't take away our inner rhythm because of the changes of the times, if you don't have this rhythm, you will definitely be eliminated by the times, you have to have a vertical, follow the rhythm of the times, and you have to dissect yourself horizontally, adjust yourself, and connect with all the points in the vertical rhythm. This kind of logical way of thinking, landing in life, all the touch is a moment, all the touch is based on the smallest force, "pop" a hit will be detonated.
Zhang Liang: This is a kind of faith power, and it is not only a kind of faith power, it may have a greater effect on how you see the world and yourself, it may affect your three views, and it may make you see things more thoroughly. Once I went to the monastery, just in time for the monks to go to the evening class, the Sound of Brahman, accompanied by a very simple percussion instrument, as soon as the sound came out, you felt that the absorption force was particularly strong, and suddenly entered the feeling in your heart. In fact, I don't understand much about what they sing, but I just think that kind of music is particularly good and powerful.
✤ Cao Xuanbin: I often do some volunteer work, through the form of music to express faith and emotions, help others, just like the Qin Shang Hundred People will do public welfare funds, people with the heart of the world will inevitably have a spirit of dedication, this dedication is very meaningful.