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Jiang Zilong, a writer of Tianmu Shudan Dialogue: I write stupidly, and words are voices emanating from the soul

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When people live to be 80 years old, how will they view the people and things in this world? Recently, "Notes on the Human World" published by writers publishing house provides an answer.

The author of this book is Jiang Zilong, a famous writer who is 80 years old this year. 80 years of years, to give Jiang Zilong a wealth of life experience, he once served as the navy, factory director's office secretary, deputy secretary of the general party branch of the workshop, and later became a professional writer, once served as vice chairman of the China Writers Association, chairman of the Tianjin Writers Association.

From the publication of the short story "New StationMaster" in 1965, the literary creation began, and in 1979, the publication of "Qiao Factory Director's Duty Record" and "A Day of the Mechanical and Electrical Director" caused strong social repercussions, and Jiang Zilong was recognized as a milestone in Chinese literature in the new era and the founder of reform literature. In December 2018, he was awarded the title of Pioneer of Reform, awarded the Pioneer Medal of Reform, and was named a representative of the writers of "Reform Literature".

This collection of essays composed of 40 articles not only records the various characters of the current society, one by one, but also records the perception of an 80-year-old man on various phenomena in the human world.

In addition to the wisdom that can only be achieved at this age, in an interview, Jiang Zilong also maintained the sharpness and directness of young people. Whenever a question is thrown over, the point of view he gives is always very clear, and even sometimes with a certain personal bias, this kind of unpretentious let people in the process of communication very clearly obtain his value coordinates, in the collision of thinking.

The following is the text of the dialogue:

Jiang Zilong, a writer of Tianmu Shudan Dialogue: I write stupidly, and words are voices emanating from the soul

Notes on the Human World, Writers Press

Tianmu Bibliography: Why did you decide to write this book in the first place and name it "Notes on the World on Earth"?

Jiang Zilong: There is nothing strange in the human world, this book is written about what an 80-year-old man saw, heard, felt, and even many mysterious people and things. Especially in today's world, there are explosive news, explosive accidents every day, some accidents have stories, and some stories have accidents. I used the note-taking technique, nothing more than to restore the current human world more realistically, so I named it "Notes on the Human World".

Tianmu Book List: Readers say that it is very comfortable to read your works, and it is also very insightful, how did you cultivate this temperament/style?

Jiang Zilong: It can make readers feel "very comfortable", which is a great praise for me, and of course, it is also an encouragement and encouragement. I think there are too many people and words that make people uncomfortable right now. As for how do you ask how this "temperament or style" is developed? To be honest, I don't know, I haven't really thought about it, because it's the first time I've heard someone say this about my work. I guess it may have something to do with the authenticity of the words, not hypocritical, not pretentious, not arrogant, there are fireworks in the world, words are the voices emanating from one's own soul. In fact, I lived to be more than eighty years old, and I still felt that I was still not likely to be a person, and when I was young, I was scolded as "Fierce God No. 1", and I was still not good at socializing when I was old.

Tianmu Book List: In the book, characters like "Xiong Guansan" and "Wang Gui" can now be seen everywhere in society, how do you think of "XiongGuansan" and "Wang Gui"? Do you like people like "Bear Crown Three" to be friends? How to get along with "Wang Gui"?

Jiang Zilong: A personality like me will not hide his emotional orientation, and he has made some real friends in his life, and there are also things I hate and hate me. "Xiong Guansan" is my friend, after the implementation of the policy I went to see him at home, the pain and wheelchair has already tortured this iron man out of shape, and died not long after. "Wang Gui" naturally lives well, and does not have any intersection with me at work, but he is the kind of person who looks at me unfavorably and knows that I am not pleasing to the eye. One summer during the noon break, everyone was swimming in the river next to the factory, and he thought I was a schoolboy who danced and inked, and wanted to beg for a bargain to fill me in the water. I didn't expect that my water and strength were much better than his, and I took the opportunity to twist his two hands, drag him to the center of the river, and then squeeze his neck and press him to the bottom of the river... Let him fill the river, and his hands and feet no longer struggle before dragging him ashore. Since that time, when he saw me again, I could hide, and I couldn't hide or smile and no longer smile and smear me on my mouth.

Tianmu Book List: In "Men's Stories", you wrote men so "ill-fated", at the end, write to let men change! Early change and early dipping, what do you want men to become? Do you have a model figure in mind for the man you prefer? Who is it?

Jiang Zilong: I shouted in "The Story of Men", men change quickly, change early and get wet... There are two layers of meaning, one is to become a completely feminine cannon, maybe it will be fame and fortune, Jun is not seen on the current variety stage, whether it is a village old man or a city man, a mouth singing female voice high cavity, immediate applause bursting, big red. Maybe one day in the future, the male protagonist in the film and television program will have to let the woman play, and the female protagonist will let the man play. Another layer is to remind men to change back to themselves and preserve some "love seeds" for humanity, just as some botanists have called on China to keep some of its own grain seeds. Scarce things are expensive, and in the case of increasingly serious feminization, being a real man does not necessarily have no food. However, I think of male role models, mostly in history books and my novels, that have not yet been encountered in real life.

Jiang Zilong, a writer of Tianmu Shudan Dialogue: I write stupidly, and words are voices emanating from the soul

Jiang Zilong Source: Xinhua Net

Tianmu Bibliography: In the article "Women's Talent is Virtue", do you think that women's "talent" is wisdom? The heroine in the text and the "Xue Fool" in "Happiness" have the same good ending, but they are completely two kinds of people, is there merit or virtue?

Jiang Zilong: The female talent in "Women with Talent is Virtue" mainly refers to her "intuition", not what the ancients said, "proficient in piano and chess calligraphy and painting", although she may also be proficient in piano and chess, good at calligraphy and painting. In today's variable and increasingly complex real life, intuition and assertiveness are women's talents. It can also be said to be a kind of right view and wisdom. Such a woman, her own life will not be too bad, married will also become a blessing star for her husband. This is what I want to express as "a woman's talent is virtue." The crazy woman in "Xue Fool" is not talented or talented, but an unfortunate and blessed woman. And Xue Fool, who is as thick as a fool, is the truly far-sighted and wise person, compensating for the immoral environment and fate's harm to this unfortunate woman. Women can have virtue, talent can also have no morality, women can have no talent can also have morality, but it cannot be said that talentlessness is morality, especially living in the current information society of knowledge explosion.

Tianmu Bibliography: You wrote in "The Fate of Beautiful Women", "Women are recognized as material animals, and women who do not pursue material things are simply not self-motivated women", why should there be such a prejudice against women? I'm curious, who is your favorite model woman? How is it?

Jiang Zilong: "People with clothes and horses with saddles" - this is an ancient adage. People have materiality, especially women. The most significant effect of reform and opening up is that Chinese women are beautiful. A woman's life's lesson is to wear clothes that suit her at different ages. You look at the excellent women in modern society, dressed appropriately, and the self-feeling of an excellent soul is very important, and will not let external things detract from their own points or affect the play of their talents. The sadness of a woman is that she has not found and worn clothes that can show her personality and strengths in her life. Why does The Chinese aunt have a bad reputation everywhere? One of the reasons is that they can't wear clothes, and they dare to wear like old witches, usually "there is something to wear", or what is convenient, what is cheap to wear, because they did not learn this lesson when they were young. So from the overall point of view, this group is not eye-catching, coupled with loud noise, greed and cheap and other vices, how to be beautiful? Don't say it because they are old, you go to the developed world to see elderly women, absolutely will not have this impression of "Chinese mother". As for you asking me, is there a female model figure in my heart? Of course there is, is there still a man? But can't tell you.

Tianmu Book List: After seeing the third series of "Peach Blossom Water", the story writes that Zhu Bing and Xiuhe started the car to slowly descend the slope, and it was over, was there no big reversal? Is this the end of the story?

Jiang Zilong: Good eyesight. The "Peach Blossom Water" I originally conceived was a novella, and I was prepared to write a small long story of more than 100,000 words. The original idea was that Xiuhe did not divorce, but her husband did not want to leave, dragging her to take care of the elderly in her hometown. And Zhu Bing wants to build a house and buy land in the countryside, as his home, and now there is a young and beautiful woman who is in love with himself. Not wanting to make a fuss about the epidemic, Xiuhe's husband ran back, and the three of them staged a sensational drama in the pure Loess Plateau, some people said ugly, some people said beauty... Later, when I wrote it until now, I suddenly felt that it was already a complete short story that could be stopped. I am not sure that one day in the future I will suddenly come up with interest again, and then continue to write down according to the original idea, because the plot behind is very interesting, and I am reluctant to discard it.

Tianmu Bibliography: Which one of your favorite articles in Notes on the Human World is?

Jiang Zilong: "Xue Fool", "Rainy Night Pumpkin Field", "Indian Ocean Dark Night".

Tianmu Book List: Among the current young writers, are there any young writers that you prefer?

Jiang Zilong: There are a lot of people, not only like it, but also very admired. People often argue privately about the list and order of the contemporary "four talented women" and "six talents", no matter how many versions and order they are arranged, it shows that there are many talented writers in the contemporary literary world. Of course, I have a version in my mind, and I can't say the specific name. Once the name is said, the people on the list do not think so, and will even be misunderstood as a slap in the face. And some young writers who have personal relationships with me, if they are not on the list, may misunderstand that I think he is not talented. People are old and don't want to cause trouble.

Tianbi Bishu List: Do you want to say or suggest to the current post-80s and post-90s generations?

Jiang Zilong: No. I'm not a smart person, and I rely on stupid writing, so now I basically sit in the audience and watch the talented women perform. When people are old, they must be interesting, and they must not talk nonsense.

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