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Looking forward to the "new" Kirin chip from the Kirin 9010 | Is the next-generation Kirin core expected to catch up with the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2?

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Huawei's Pura70 series broke Huawei's previous convention, using a processor that can be said to be a new upgrade on the P series - Kirin 9010.

Kirin 9010, judging from the name, everyone may think that this SOC is a small iteration of the Kirin 9000S, a bit similar to the Plus version of the Snapdragon 8 series.

However, as long as you have read the relevant scores, IPC tests and internal analysis of this sensor (refer to Geek Bay), you will find that this SOC is not a small iteration.

Compared with the Kirin 9000S, the Kirin 9010 has been greatly upgraded in many aspects.

Let's make a list of upgrade points: (based on the Geek Bay test video)

Looking forward to the "new" Kirin chip from the Kirin 9010 | Is the next-generation Kirin core expected to catch up with the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2?

From the perspective of the upgrade of the core architecture level, the Kirin 9010 has been upgraded to a considerable extent at the large core level.

Those front-end transmitter units may be relatively unfamiliar to everyone, but everyone should be familiar with the cache.

According to the results of Geek Bay's software reverse analysis, the L3 cache of the Kirin 9010 generation has been upgraded from 4MB to 8MB in the previous generation, which has doubled.

Some friends may have no concept of this data, let's make a horizontal comparison:

Looking forward to the "new" Kirin chip from the Kirin 9010 | Is the next-generation Kirin core expected to catch up with the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2?

To put it simply, the L3 cache of this generation of Kirin 9010 processors has caught up with the level of contemporary flagship processors, and it is a significant improvement compared to the Kirin 9000S.

The larger the cache, to a certain extent (at a reasonable size), it can reduce the number of times the CPU accesses the memory, thereby reducing power consumption.

The improvement in the IPC performance of this generation of Kirin 9010 is largely due to the increase in cache capacity.

In terms of actual performance, the Kirin 9010 scored 1442 points for single-core and 4471 points for multi-core under Geekbench 6.2.2.

Compared with the Kirin 9000S, the comprehensive improvement is not very large, with a single-core increase of 8% and a multi-core increase of about 11%.

Looking forward to the "new" Kirin chip from the Kirin 9010 | Is the next-generation Kirin core expected to catch up with the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2?
Looking forward to the "new" Kirin chip from the Kirin 9010 | Is the next-generation Kirin core expected to catch up with the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2?

In terms of peak performance, the Kirin 9010 is indeed not very large, and the peak performance is only a single-digit increase.

However, there is one factor that should not be overlooked – frequency.

The frequency of the Kirin 9010 does not rise but falls compared to the Kirin 9000S, please take a look at the following picture, the CPU super-core of the Kirin 9010 is lower than that of the Kirin 9000S, and the frequency is reduced by 0.32Ghz.

Looking forward to the "new" Kirin chip from the Kirin 9010 | Is the next-generation Kirin core expected to catch up with the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2?

The frequency setting is so conservative, many people speculate that it is caused by the process not being able to hold it down, and I personally think that this is indeed one of the main factors.

However, I personally believe that Huawei itself wants to "suppress" the Kirin 9010 at a level similar to that of the Kirin 9000S.

The reason is also very simple, if the Kirin 9010 is fully evolved, then wouldn't it make the users who bought the Huawei Mate60 series clowns?

After all, it is only half a year before the release of the Huawei Mate60 series.

This can be seen from the power consumption curve of the Kirin 9010, the CPU energy efficiency ratio of the Kirin 9010 is significantly lower than that of the Kirin 9000S.

In other words, the Kirin 9010 can still have a higher limit performance, but it is limited by the frequency and does not play it.

And don't forget, the other three big cores of this generation of Kirin 9010 have not changed, and they are consistent with the Kirin 9000S.

In addition, this generation of Kirin 9010 has not changed on the GPU side, and it is still the Maloon 910 architecture.

For the Kirin 9010, my personal opinion is that it is a product that integrates some of the capabilities of the next-generation Kirin chip.

Therefore, by studying the Kirin 9010, we can actually roughly guess the actual performance of the next generation of Kirin chips.

Looking forward to the new Kirin chip, it is not a big problem to surpass the Snapdragon 8+ as a whole.

First of all, let's make a bold guess about the new Kirin chip.

Let's start with the CPU part.

Huawei's new Taishan super-large core released on the Kirin 9010, I personally think that it will also be continued on the next generation of Kirin chips, at most only partial adjustments.

For example, the frequency of the new Kirin chip will definitely increase, and I guess that it can at least reach the same level as the Kirin 9000S super large core, that is, about 2.6Ghz, which is about 0.3Ghz higher than the Kirin 9010.

Then, according to the consistent improvement level of the chip industry, the 0.3Ghz frequency increase of the ultra-large core can roughly bring about a single-core performance improvement of about 15%.

If we take into account other peripheral configurations, optimization of power supply strategies, etc., it is conservatively estimated that the CPU single-core performance of the new Kirin chip is expected to be about 20% higher than that of the Kirin 9010.

Note: The IPC performance of the Kirin 9010's new super-large core is 20% higher than that of the Kirin 9000S.

As for the CPU multi-core performance, I personally predict that the increase will be very large, and it is expected to reach about 25%-30%.

Don't think I'm bragging, that's normal.

Because at present, the performance of Taishan's new super-large core, whether it is real high frequency or medium and low frequency, is stronger than the Taishan core on the Kirin 9000S.

Therefore, in the future, the new Kirin chip will definitely be fully equipped with this super-large core, but it is just a distinction in frequency.

At present, the existence of one super-large core has brought nearly 10% increase in multi-core performance, and if the other three large cores are also replaced with a new core architecture, the overall multi-core performance increase of 25-30% is absolutely no problem.

Based on this, let's also make a rough performance score prediction:

Looking forward to the "new" Kirin chip from the Kirin 9010 | Is the next-generation Kirin core expected to catch up with the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2?

Overall, the CPU single-core performance of the next-generation Kirin chip basically reaches the Snapdragon 8+ level, and the CPU multi-core performance is expected to reach or even surpass the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2.

As for the GPU, it is not particularly easy to predict at present, but if you have seen the disassembly of the Kirin 9000S chip, you will know that the overall size of the Malonn GPU of the Kirin 9000S is only half of that of the Kirin 9000.

The Kirin 9000S is disassembled, and only three GPU cores are seen.

Looking forward to the "new" Kirin chip from the Kirin 9010 | Is the next-generation Kirin core expected to catch up with the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2?

However, the performance is basically tied, which means that the energy efficiency ratio of Ma Liang's GPU architecture is still very strong.

The next generation of Kirin chips can increase the scale, from three to 4-6, and the performance is expected to increase by about 30%.

As a result, the GPU performance of the new Kirin chip is basically between the Snapdragon 8+ and Snapdragon 8 Gen 2.

To sum up, based on the available data, it is reasonable to speculate that the CPU single-core performance of the new Kirin chip is expected to be equal or slightly lower than that of the Snapdragon 8+, the CPU multi-core performance is equal and surpasses the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, and the GPU performance is between the Snapdragon 8+ and Snapdragon 8 Gen 2.

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