I'm probably the last person to write "Fengsheng", it's time to talk about the "Urshan people"

Text | Ling Hu Boguang

The most twisty movie in the summer of 2023 is probably "Feng Shen", this movie has already counterattacked, and as a result, some time ago, director Wuershan national remarks, and then to the remarks dug up by Na Ran, who played Daji, pushed this movie and the main creator to the cusp of the angle.

Let's talk about it from the remarks of Wuershan and Naran, as well as the casting director. That is, Wu Ershan's statement that "the title of the Han nationality was formed after the Yuan Dynasty", Naran's retweeted "Mulan is a Mongol", and then to the fourth-class Han mocked by the casting director.

I am a film and television blogger, and I will write about it with the dialectic of "looking at problems with the perspective of development" and receiving education.

First of all, the answer: Bo Guangjun, as a post-85 Han youth, especially the descendants of the Sichuan-Chongqing people who "killed the Mongol Khan in Diaoyu City", I definitely disagree with the views of Wuershan and others.

This group of people is obviously different from us in terms of historical view, national view and certain expressions, and this issue is more taboo to discuss (for the sake of not discussing). But just like the "river death faction" from that era, this group of people expressed different things, but many people did not reach the problem of netizens denouncing the "position".

I'm sure someone is going to scold the whitewashing or something, so please keep reading.

Humai, Proton Brigade, Jiuhuan Baiyun? Does "Fengshen " "carry private goods"

I have always looked at problems from the perspective of development, and I am very concerned about the Chinese film and television industry, and the works that have been broken and promoted by the Chinese cultural industry. In the past two years, he has paid the most attention to the works "The Wandering Earth 2" and "Feng Shen", and has not only written countless manuscripts to analyze and recommend. I also watched a lot of behind-the-scenes, interviewed by two directors and main creators.

These stance criticisms combined with the elements of the work by netizens are a bit too "far-fetched".

For example, netizens dug up the cultural elements of "Fengsheng" with private goods, such as Humai, Proton Group, palace maid's round-necked robe, and the nine-fold white ribbon, which symbolizes Mongolian power.

This movie also has bloggers to list the original text of history to refute it, and after I checked it one by one, I found that these points criticized by netizens were completely untenable.

For example, the Proton Army, the Yuan Dynasty did have a Proton Army, but the earlier Chinese dynasties had the same history. In the movie, Ji Fa and others are the Proton Army, and they are also the royal guard Ji Fa. The so-called Suwei, that is, the palace guard. This proton is also a bodyguard, and an army goes to war, and accompanying the Son of Heaven on his expeditions is even more common.

"Zizhi Tongjian Tang Ji XXXII" "Those who enter the guards of the palace are called the attendants, and they are the guards of the Son of Heaven." "Zizhi Tongjian Chen Ji IV" "Emperor (Later Lord of Northern Qi) Shuai Su Guardian rode four hundred, awarded armor, and will fight..."

Look at the Jiubai that netizens criticized, its prototype in Mongolia is shown above, and the movie is shown above

If you're not an emotional blinder, I'm sure you can clearly sense the difference. There is only one Jiubai in Mongolia, and there are 6 in the movie, and this thing is more similar in the earlier Han dynasty.

In fact, before the Yuan Dynasty, this banner in ancient China, similar to the flag abounded, but symbolized the temperament of the Han dynasty, such as the scepter in the portrait of "Su Wu Muyang", which is more like the setting in the movie than the Yuan Dynasty's Jiuhui white yang.

This next is the round-necked robe of the palace maid, which has also been misled by many people to say that it is a Mongolian robe, let's look at the prototype in history.

Finally, there is the suspected Humai problem, the producer of this soundtrack has clearly said that the "Skyfall Xuanjiao" section found eight national baritones. Interestingly, Mont Chorran made it clear that there were shamanic elements in that passage, as well as spreading the humai underneath.

The above is an interview with the original picture, and there are also music production videos, so I won't take screenshots here.

At this time, someone must have said that the hammer was hammered, and we didn't even mention what she said in the interview: "It's not so much that we captured Mongolian music elements this time, but that we still have to seek inspiration from shamanic culture." "I wanted the low part of the male voice to be particularly solid to bring out that sense of power and mystery."

The key is that people in music still do this, this crew in Shang Zhou's architecture, clothing, props, etiquette, musical instruments, and then various cultural elements to do a lot of research and reference, whether this is restored There are many people on the Internet can search, so now the question is.

You: The group of Urshan people are Mongols, pan-Mongolists, trying to divide the country

Me: How did he do it?

You: His "Fengshen " contains Mongolian cultural elements and is very serious

Me: How serious

You: There is Humai, there is a musical element with Humai in the background, there is Humai in Mongolia

Is there a problem with "Feng Shen"? There are problems, and there are not too many problems

As for netizens serving the road according to Wuershan's previous work "Painted Skin 2", that Wo Daihua is a habitual offender, this is even more obvious nonsense.

You carefully recall that the art costume road of Chinese costume film and television dramas obviously began to return after Cao Dun's "Twelve Hours of Chang'an" in 2019, and before that, including his own "Sea Muyun Ji" were flooded with wind. If you add another "not in China and not in the ocean", which domestic costume film and television drama is innocent in that period?

Finally, there is the question of Fei Xiang's American king, and the nationality of the Russian Daji. I think that through the casting of Chen Muchi, Yuan Quan, and then Xiqi Li Xuejian, Yu Shi and Yang Jue, the director team may highlight a sense of alienation and the comparison with the traditional Western Zhou that we are familiar with.

If you insist on carrying private goods, I personally do not object, so what is my point of view in the end?

Wuershan and the group behind him do differ from us in some ways, and I disagree with them, and I think they have a bit of that kind of tendency (just like the River Deaths). But I won't push "capital conspiracy" like fans, but I also don't agree with the current network wearing hats to engage in criticism.

The national speech of Wuershan and others is controversial - there are suspected problematic cultural elements in the work - they carry private goods and deconstruct cultural history - they are Mongolian, pan-Mongolism, separatism - they are coming to Tutu soon -

There is no analysis of objective facts, no materialist dialectic from the development of the environment, and no more rigorous academic, positional, or even political facts to analyze. This kind of network "gouging the ancestral grave" way to extend the problem, to deduce the position, and then to criticize the way, there are not many creators in China who are innocent.

Zhang Yimou, Chen Kaige and Mo Yan are all river martyrs, and most Hong Kong and Taiwan cultural creators have problems.

Cao Dun's latest work is the costume blockbuster "Heroes of Dunhuang", the former "Kyushu Sea Muyun" to replace China, and the later TV series "Guangzhou Thirteen Lines" blatantly tampered with history, whitewashed the big comprador Wu Dunyuan, and openly opposed the revolution? Is there a problem with Cao Dun's revolutionary stance (TV series are not broadcast)

By the way, Ma Boyong, the original author of "The Twelve Hours of Chang'an" and "Heroes of Dunhuang", is a Manchu bannerman from Inner Mongolia.

When the Mongolian casting director broadcasts his remarks, his resume also includes "God of War", "Wolf Totem", "The General is on top", "Imperial Industry", "Kublai Khan", "Sea Shepherd", "Ethereal Record" and so on, so there is no problem with the director of these works?

He broke out during the filming of Tsui Hark's "Condor", so is there a problem with Tsui Hark? Some people may say that Ma Boyong, Tsui Hark and others do not have such remarks, and "every time you prostitute there is your boy."

There is no problem with "Fengsheng", but there is a problem with Wuershan and others? But this problem is quite "gray"

Wu Jing's status in domestic entertainment does not need to be mentioned, but he is a Manchu, and he also made this remark about "nationalism": "Our Eight Flags disciples were bullied to the end, and without the Great Qing Kingdom, there would be no old Beijing" and so on. Is there a problem with Wu Jing (in fact, some people have also found and scolded, mainly "Wolf Warrior 2" and "Breaking the Ball" are too hard).

According to the current public opinion environment, some people must say that it is useless for you to take Wu Jing out to block the gun, and finally talk about my point of view.

I personally feel that Manchuria, Mongolia, Xinjiang and Tibet in China are due to historical and regional reasons, like Outer Mongolia over there, these peoples with glorious history, under the influence of modern national concepts, as well as the previous policies of the mainland. All this leads them to have some kind of expression of similarities and differences between us and in the nation, history and modernity.

This expression is very similar to when we talk about the pride of the Han and Tang Dynasties, and how glorious the Mongol Empire was.

We talked about Huo Qubing's pride in "sealing the wolf Juxu", and he heard the uncomfortable reply, 'Do you remember the fourth rank man'. Similar to what exiled Lingnan Cantonese people laughed at on the Internet before, and where to hit the north it turned out to be my ancestors (but these regions have much less sense of nationality and history).

It is not surprising that Tibet is full of Mongolia for various reasons in modern times, and they have this view.

Wuershan and other Mongols released an album "Yellow Cauldron", as well as a "nomadic project" initiated by him and some Mongols. The "yellow peril" has two meanings in history, one is the fear that the Mongol Empire gave Europeans around the world, and the other is the extreme nationalism of 19th-century Europe that promoted the yellow race as a threat to whites.

Are Urshan and others fascinated (or self-deprecating) by the splendor of the Mongol Empire, or are they standing in the West and following the mockery of themselves and their Chinese? Its content is also Mongolian music, you have to understand it as national division, can it also be understood as a counterattack to the Western Yellow Peril theory?

In the nomadic project, the twin Jin Burensaiyin and the anthropologist U Erang Baolige went further.

The former's "Mongol Imperial legacy has a grander inclusive character than China's", apparently referring to the historical imperial splendor, rather than Outer Mongolia (which they saw as the tolerance of most of the world), and the latter wrote three books, "Mongolian Nationalism and Its Mixture" and "Mongols on the Fringes of China: History and the Politics of National Unity" and "Cooperative Nationalism: The Politics of Friendship in China's Mongolian Frontier."

I haven't read the book yet, judging from the introduction, the first one is obviously a question of "identity and historical identity".

The second book has entered some serious discussions in modern times.

The third book already addresses some fundamental issues (views and conclusions have not been read in the book).

But I searched and found that these are all public news, resumes. If you really follow this set of netizens, then Inner Mongolia University for Nationalities, Nanjing University Xueheng College, including the "Nomad Project" other Mongolian members Wuershan's wife, hanggai band, Jiubao band, artist Qinga also have problems?

Qinga is an associate professor and master tutor at the School of Fine Arts of Minzu University of China.

Regarding the discussion behind "Fengshen ", some can be scolded, and some still need to be cautious

All in all, because this group of people in history has different views from us, I definitely disagree with this view, but I also do not agree with netizens directly wearing hats to force people to that step. Some people tend to be more serious soft blocked, such as the actor Bason of "Genghis Khan", some have this tendency but have not seen the current work and behavior.

(If from the perspective of the Chinese film and television industry, it is doing something similar to Wu Jing)

For example, Wuershan's "Fengsheng" really wants to scold the so-called entrainment, and I think only "Mongolian" and mixed-race actors are the most obvious (engaging in circleization). Other things that serve the Tao, using similar cultural elements to catch the wind and engage in stance criticism, these are jokes in my opinion.

Finally, they seek to express the similarities and differences of projection, which is originally gray and not very suitable for discussion in the context of larger policy frameworks. Especially the "binary opposition" environment under the rapid spread of the Internet era. Not many netizens will check the identities of these people, what writings they have, and what views they express.

Netizens even Westernized and domestic costume film and television dramas in previous years, which can only be ignored for a few years.

At the beginning of this movie, some people also scolded actors of other nationalities and nationalities for too much, and then Westernized and replaced Hua with Wa, and did not restore the history and mythology of Shang and Zhou. But the quality of the film's release is excellent, and there is nothing to say about the counterattack at the box office. In the end, the box office is still up, the old boy floated to say the tendency, and the Internet era instantly amplified, putting this "gray spot" on the table.

You say that there are problems and problems, you say that it is different from us and different, but you said that with the cultural elements of "Fengshen "to jump to that step, I can only say that this extreme is not desirable.

At present, the official still chooses to stand on the platform after the revelation, and they are promoting the film to be released around the world. What conspiracy theories do you want to extend to those I don't object to, anyway, nothing on the Internet can rise to "destroy the country and destroy the species", and it is about to collapse.

Most of me disagree, let alone check the resume of this movie and this group of people, don't push it to the extreme.