After losing to Oman in the round of 12, the national enough to bid farewell to the Qatar World Cup with 1 win, 3 draws and 6 losses. The program invited Pan Weili, Chen Yong, Feng Zhen, Bai Guohua and other famous football journalists and fan representative Cheng Shixuan to discuss the performance of the national football team in this World Preliminary Tournament and look forward to the prospects of the national football team in the next World Preliminary Tournament.
In the round of 12, are you satisfied with the performance of the national football team?
Speaking about this topic, Cheng Shixuan first said, "I can't see the feeling of the future. The national football team lost to Oman, is to lose in the present, U23 lost to the United Arab Emirates, is to lose to the future. Bai Guohua has a different view, "Chinese football is very poor, not bad enough to see the future, not particularly tragic time, because I think 20 years in the industry, worse environment we have also seen." Chen Yong also said, "There is nothing surprising about the result, there is no anger, despair, I just feel very helpless." ”
When talking about the mental state of the national football team, Bai Guohua pointed out, "This is a false proposition, and we always talk about what fighting spirit and spiritual outlook, as if we can't find a reason, we can only find this kind of reason." Isn't it spelled against Vietnam? Losing to Vietnam is a very special state, after changing the coach, it is a typical unsuitable way of playing, it is an accident. ”
"I know very well that players, coaches, are football practitioners, and losing will affect their interests and is their job."
Pan Weili also said, "The players are very clear. Only when the national team plays a good game can the vital interests be guaranteed. You want people to support you and settle the club's unpaid wages, as long as you win in the national team. Every game is a tough one, but sometimes it's just not enough. ”
Chen Yong also pointed out, "Simply talking about fighting spirit and hard work, this has an impact on football, but how big it is, it is difficult to say." Fighting spirit, is very comprehensive, including, spirit, the biggest problem is the first game to beat the confidence out, 10 games, the first game after 30 minutes, confidence is gone. It's very painful, they definitely don't want to lose, they really have no confidence in themselves, no smiles, no communication, very numb facial expressions. Very tired, tired of not resting all year, and tired caused by the public opinion environment. ”
"After every game, there's always one or two players being brought out, discussed, criticised, and that's a lot of torture for them. The biggest psychological problem of the national team is that one is no self-confidence, and the other is psychological exhaustion. A thing that has no fun and you want him to play well is a fantasy. No faith, no fun. ”
Is there any progress or change in the change of national football coach?
Chen Yong first pointed out, "I think first of all, I have always recognized Li Tie's coaching ability, but he finally left class and coaching results have nothing to do with it, including speech and other behaviors." At that time, the change of coach was a change in the artificial state, and all parties were not prepared. Li Tie was appointed by the Football Association, and Li Xiaopeng was appointed by the General Administration of Sports, and even the decision-making body is different. There must be a problem. ”
"(Li Xiaopeng's coaching) is not satisfactory, I believe that after losing to Oman, after one draw and three losses, most public opinion surveys will not support Li Xiaopeng." I think the most embarrassing problem is that the Chinese coaches who have summed up the past 20 years are basically foreign coaches and local coaches, who have always attacked each other, and the foreign coaches must have less control over the team, and finally a scolding. The tushuai is a little worse in tactics, and in the end it is also a scolding. The most tragic thing is that Lippi resigned twice, both resigned in anger, both were dissatisfied with the team, and even when Lippi could not control the team, it was not so meaningful to change the coach. There will be no substantial changes. The coaches of the national football team are the same, the first year played very well, the second year was average, the third year was very bad, and I don't know when I will get out of this cycle. ”
Feng Zhen pointed out, "I think Li Tie and Li Xiaopeng, there is nothing to talk about, he is not a suitable candidate himself, find an obedient manager, and finish these four games." At present, the local manager, no one can handle this relationship. I have always opposed the Tu Shuai leading the team to play qualifiers, Li Tie did not grasp the good measure, poked the media honeycomb. The foreign marshal will handle it better. I am very opposed to the selection of the local coach, I still think that the foreign coach will play in the Asian Cup. ”
Bai Guohua revealed the details of the preparations for the national football team's world qualifiers, "Since the end of the last qualifier, in fact, our entire relevant departments have done a lot of things, all for the Chinese team to rush into the World Cup. Continue to let Lippi come back, originally it was impossible to return to China, why can I enter the palace twice? It is the relevant parties who believe that only Lippi can complete this task. The impact of the Qatar World Cup, originally Lippi led the team, as well as Alain, Gaulat, Teixeira, the lineup was originally very strong. If it is such a team, the difficulty of impact is much less, and there is a chance to impact the World Cup. ”
Lippi's resignation is an occasional thing, but it is also inevitable that the Chinese Football Association will change, Lippi resigned, resulting in naturalized players being unable to use." The previous three cores were Lippi, Evergrande and the former president of the Football Association, and the current president of the Football Association is not as enthusiastic as his predecessor. ”
Fengzhen gave Li Tie a score of 70 points, and Li Xiaopeng rated 60 points, "The coaching environment is quite bad, Li Xiaopeng has no need to score, he just smoothly transitions to write about it, there is no highlight, 60 points." At least there are other levels of accidents that happen when the team successfully completes the game. ”
In the battle of Feng Gong, did Gong Hanlin wake up the national football team?
Bai Guohua analyzed the battle of Feng Gong in detail, "There is no need to take sides at all, Gong Hanlin has no problem, in fact, he represents the impression of the average fan on football, playing poorly, with a high salary, playing like this, why take so much money." ”
"The second point is that Feng Xiaoting wrote an article, which I think admires him, and still speaks out in this situation. In fact, most players are reluctant to speak and are reluctant to reveal their thoughts. Whether your idea is reasonable or not, basically in this public opinion is unbalanced, 99 people are cursing you, Xiao Feng's courage is commendable. ”
"It's like a stage play, the actors are the players, and there are directors and investors behind them. Often it will focus on the director and actors, which is a very tragic thing, not a very new thing, every three to five there will be celebrities outside the circle, that is, stepping into the pit. Thanks to the Internet age, it seems that a little thing, many people pay attention to, in fact, there is no big difference. ”
"The last point is to wake up Chinese football, if it is really a wake-up call, it is really thankful, the merit is immeasurable." This is a problem accumulated in 20 or 30 years, and it cannot be solved by a scolding war. In fact, China is very confident, do he dare to say corrupt officials, do he dare to say tax evasion and tax evasion, only Chinese football dares to say. ”
Feng Zhen pointed out. "A bit boring. It was a ball blind who said something in an inappropriate situation. Reflecting the real public opinion environment faced by Chinese football, it has never been so nakedly displayed. ”
"You can really feel what a humble environment Chinese football is in, sticking to the ground. I don't think it will wake up football, players and Chinese football are two environments, and Chinese football practitioners are more trembling in this environment. ”
"Like Fan Zhiyi said, engaging in football or being scolded, why am I? It's a very humble mindset. Players will be more ashamed, they will fight harder, but players are not the decisive factor at all, and even if they work 120% hard, they can't change the outcome. The public opinion storm caused by Gong Hanlin has hurt Chinese football. He will mislead the Chinese public about football, which is an established fact. ”
Chen Yong said, "It's not a scar, it's actually a wound in a good place." There are three absurdities, the cause is completely out of touch with reality, Gong Hanlin is a ball blind, he did not realize at all, ordinary players, more than 80% of the people are owed wages, many people eat the cost of their parents, many people do not pay the mortgage. Only a small percentage of people are vested interests, and most are internationals. Ordinary players really live a miserable life, which is the reality of Chinese football. He took the words of passers-by and spoke, which would have been wrong. Most of what he represents is the cognition of passers-by, and on the platform dominated by fans, everyone understands each other, not so professional, and the overall understanding is relatively well understood. But if you switch to an algorithm-based platform, they don't know that at all. Even if you see it, you will not believe it, or pretend not to see it, just to scold, the overall public opinion environment is very bad, but this is the general trend, it is unstoppable. ”
Everything Feng Xiaoting said was very real. Fan Zhiyi said it very truthfully, but no one paid attention. Indeed, there is a situation where there is traffic, which leads to the further expansion of the dispute. Understandable, the age of traffic? This is the second absurdity. ”
"The third absurdity is that Chinese football obviously needs to think very comprehensively and carefully. However, there is no room for rational thinking now, you only have to support one side, if he thinks rationally, he will be scolded by both sides, or no one will pay attention. ”
Bai Guohua said, "This is a very boring thing. Genuine sea cucumbers are better than fake drugs endorsed by others. It is very normal to have endorsements, this public opinion environment, you lose, even breathing is wrong, let alone eating sea cucumbers. ”
"In the most critical quarter-final of the Asian Youth Championship, against Uzbekistan, entered the penalty shootout, Wu Xi missed the penalty and missed the World Youth Championship. From this point of view, he has long been a sinner in Chinese football, put it in quotation marks. You play long enough to get into the national team, and there are always black spots. There are more competitions to participate in, and naturally some scenes will be infinitely magnified. Wu Xi, personal strength, in their group of players together, is definitely outstanding. Of course, Wu Xi's performance this year did not meet the expectations of many fans, and it was very mediocre. This is very normal, Wu Xi is already 32 or 33 years old, so in an abnormal environment, the feeling of being locked in a cage for a whole year, the position is not good, and the state of performance can also be understood. What is even more tragic is that there are few national youth players close to Wu Xi, and it is estimated that he will play for several years. ”
In the battle against Saudi Arabia, the scene of Yu Dabao walking on the court has caused controversy. Feng Zhen revealed, "Yu Dabao's first reaction at that time was to strike forward, and that choice was definitely wrong at that time. Considering that he played as a defender for so many years, his mind became the mind of a defender, a protective receiver. He was already a defender, not a striker, and he made that choice at the time. ”
Chen Yong commented, "Yu Dabao, my first reaction at that time was to change any forward, it was a front insertion. If Yu Dabao had inserted himself in front of Dabao at that time and brought away some defensive players, Xu Xin and Liao Lisheng would have followed up and formed a good attack. He has not played in the forward position for a long time, as a defender, if someone in front of him has the ball, he naturally pulls away the receiver, which is a matter of habit, he has not played forward for 6 or 7 years. The idea of us and world football has long been less of an idea. The real failure, not the head coach's, is the real failure of the rhythm. All games that are lost are lost in rhythm. ”
Bai Guohua pointed out, "If it is really so easy to make money, why don't you make money?" You missed the opportunity, why don't you let your son earn it? Everyone understands that this is something you can't earn, and you simply don't have the ability to earn this money. They always think that your money is too easy to earn, so good to earn, you don't want to make progress. My question is, since it's so easy to earn, why don't you earn it? Civil servants are so difficult to test, do you still have to take the test? The biggest problem is who will make the rules, if it is the club to negotiate, then it is 600,000 is no problem, rather than letting some people pat the table to make it. ”
What should the national football team do in the future?
Chen Yong analyzed the difficult situation faced by the national football team, "Japan, South Korea, Iran, these are three first-class teams. Second-rate teams, we Chinese teams do not have the certainty of victory. Almost every West Asian team, plus Southeast Asia's Thailand, Vietnam, North Korea, so many situations, China is a second-rate team, this is still secondary. 89 age group, the last age group with more comprehensive personal ability. After this age, it is broken, and it is getting worse and worse. In the next 10 years, until the 01 age group, there will be no improvement. In the 01, 03, 05, 07 age group, there has been no competition recently, and the most critical two years have been delayed. By the 07 generation, it is impossible to reach the level of the 89 generation. ”
"We may have to count on the 09 generation, it is difficult to have an overall improvement. There may be one or two good players coming out. The big spittoon of Chinese football is hopeless, and if the league resumes, it may be better. It can support the national team and improve the development of young people. There is no hope for the national team, and the league can quickly return to normal, not home and away, but the operation of the club. ”
Feng Zhen also believes that the league is more important, "I think That Chinese football, the internal volume, the internal friction is particularly serious. I hope everything returns to normal, the league plays normally, the AFC Champions League plays normally, the salary does not have to be owed, it can be sent normally, and there are balls to play every weekend. I think the Chinese team still has room to rise. Based on this, coupled with the next expansion of the army, I am more optimistic. I have been betting on the World Cup for several years, and now I am in a state of two choices, and I have been sacrificing the league for the national team. If I'd rather choose one or the other, I'm willing to do a good job in the league. Ideally, it is all done well. ”
Bai Guohua pointed out three points: "First, after the expansion of the army, there are more opportunities. Second, Asian football, is a solidified class, from 1998 to the present so many times, come and go is so many countries, Japan, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Australia, there are two exceptions, 2002 China team, 2010 North Korea, broke out of this siege. The Chinese team has steadily entered the two rounds of 12, and the previous three have been absent, which is a step forward. The facts speak for themselves, at least guaranteeing the strength of the top 12. ”
"The third point is that in the round of 12, there will be all kinds of possibilities. Including Vietnam forcing the Japanese team, we have forced Australia and Saudi Arabia. Many people feel that losing to Vietnam is unacceptable, everyone is in the top 12 team, why do you look down on people? Why is it unacceptable? They are all teams of the same level, all teams that have been screened. We fans have a big country disease, and when it comes to football, we are a small country. ”
"But, apart from the very strong teams, everyone has almost the same chance. We have to do our own thing, otherwise everything is in vain. The first is the league, to get back to normal, especially unpaid wages. In the construction of the national team, the preparation of this cycle, the selection of more suitable head coaches, more suitable players. ”
Naturalization has failed completely, will it be carried out in the future?
Chen Yong pointed out, "There is still a systematic plan, such as Guedes, there are still good opportunities, such a young player. It will still be available in 2026. The 2026 World Cup, as well as the small motorcycle, Alain's playing style can still play a role at the age of 35 and 36. The premise is that the league is healthy and there are people willing to bring them in. In theory, it is very appropriate. The league is very unhealthy, and that's what worries people. Only by playing in China will the desire to play for the country will be strengthened, and if you return to Brazil, there is no hope. ”
Bai Guohua revealed the controversy over Li Tie's use of naturalized players, "As far as I know, Li Tie is very superstitious about naturalized players, and after Li Tie took office, he had the confidence to have naturalized players. At that time, to what extent was superstitious, he thought that naturalized players had only one leg, which was better than two-legged Chinese players. ”
"It's not just Li Tie who thinks so, the general manager of the first team also told me that he told Li Tie that Luo Guofu is more capable than Chinese players even if he stands on the field, and this recognition represents the views of Chinese front-line practitioners on the ability of naturalized players." However, when we all thought they were capable, in this qualifier, only Luo Guofu scored a goal, creating such a strong contrast. The reason is that the physical condition is very, very poor, some players told me that after playing the teaching game for 15 minutes, some players began to gasp and could not do such a high-intensity game. After the round of 12, Li Tie was very cautious, just like having a vendetta against naturalized players, which is a misunderstanding. ”
"So, it has become this matter, it seems that the misunderstanding is getting deeper and deeper, the first Li Tie does not like to use, the second is not what instructions, do not need to naturalize the players. Ability is fine, but I didn't expect them to have problems with physical fitness. This situation was not expected by Li Tie, and later slowly found a way to use naturalized players, but he left class. The child is dead and the milk is coming. ”
"Actually, whether we want to be naturalized or not, we definitely want it. Now that you've started this path, you can definitely continue. Naturalization is a very new thing for Chinese football. All kinds of mistakes, all kinds of incoherence, unclear thinking, with the first time, after paying high tuition, the next time will be better. ”
What else can we do for the national football team?
Bai Guohua first said, "Forget him, it will be better." Can't forget it, just like a play, don't have too much expectation, there may be a little surprise. Quite simply, if you like to play soccer more, it will affect the next generation. ”
Feng Zhen pointed out, "I still from the perspective of the media, I think the Chinese Football Association should be more enlightened, for various reasons, so that the national team and the media have a certain gap, I hope to solve this matter next." In the brand promotion of this topic, get more in place. I think the details make up your image. The current Chinese Football Association, in this new media era, wants to broaden this way and make progress in all aspects. As a media, everyone pays attention to the league, puts on the report of the league, and affects more children through the Chinese Super League and the Chinese First Division. ”
Chen Yong pointed out, "To the decision-makers and practitioners of Chinese football, if Chinese football wants to develop, it is necessary to abandon two hearts." The first is utilitarianism, many people attach importance to Chinese football, in order to obtain political achievements, all kinds of chaos are caused by political performance projects, constantly changing the leadership of the Football Association, changing policies, ah, behind all of them, are political performance projects, are utilitarian. ”
"The second is to try to be less selfish, and the more chinese football declines, everyone's selfishness is more and more." Including the boss, either come in a rush, or go in a hurry, including media practitioners, when there are more and more selfishness, everyone is making profits for themselves under the guise. ”
"The league has to get back to normal and the club has to get back to health. Take out the spirit of digging up abscesses, the spirit of the brave man who broke his wrist, and clean up all the clubs that owe wages, and absolutely do not allow the clubs that owe wages to exist. Only when the club recovers its health can Chinese football have hope. The club is not healthy, everything is not playing, I hope to make this decision. ”