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Pinnacle Showdown: Li Zhen and Socrates Who lived more unfortunately, died more unjustly and more tragically?

author:Ancient history is evergreen

The misfortunes of these two people when they were alive really had a fight:

Socrates is infinitely wise and knowledgeable, but even though the moon in foreign countries is now rounder than in China, the foreign literati at that time were as poor as the pen holders in china's self-media today.

Socrates could not earn money outside, so he had to be scolded by his wife when he returned home; Socrates was a person who was used to being scolded by his wife, and his ability to resist scolding was particularly strong.

Pinnacle Showdown: Li Zhen and Socrates Who lived more unfortunately, died more unjustly and more tragically?

His wife scolded him and trembled with anger; but he was like no one else, unscathed.

The more the wife scolded, the less angry he became, the more angry the wife became, and the more angry she became, she turned around and scooped out a bucket of water from the urn and poured it on Socrates, but Socrates was still not angry, and calmly and slowly said to his wife:

If you hit such a big thunder, I knew it would rain.

Socrates' wife was angry for no reason. Socrates would only talk to people about philosophy and wisdom, but he could not exchange it for a penny. In order to make a living, the wife had to get up early every day and go to the farmer's market to sell olives.

At the age of 12, Li Yan wrote "On the Old Farmer and the Old Garden", which greatly ridiculed Confucius's remarks that farmers were "little people" and caused a sensation in the township; later he was promoted, served as a prefect, and finally became a monk.

Today we say that he was a great thinker, a great writer, and a great master of the Taizhou school; but in his early years he made a living by teaching; our country has always had the saying of nine Confucians and ten beggars, that is, the teaching smith is a stinky old nine, only a little stronger than the ten-rate beggars.

Pinnacle Showdown: Li Zhen and Socrates Who lived more unfortunately, died more unjustly and more tragically?

Li Zhen has a wife, four sons, and three daughters that he needs to support, and relying on his little income is simply a drop in the bucket.

Li Yan himself once said that he had starved to death for seven days in a row without hitting his teeth and almost starving to death; and his four sons and two daughters all starved to death!

When Li Yan's grandfather died, he had no money to bury him, not only that, but his great-grandfather's coffin had been parked for 50 years and had not been buried! Friends pooled some money, and finally buried the ancestors.

It was the first round, and the two were materially tied. Let's look at the aspects of spiritual life:

When Li Zhen lived in the trivial, rigid, rigid, and repressive Cheng Zhu Lixue dominating the world, a little human being would feel bound, suffocated, and suffocated, not to mention Li Zhenya, who had less uninhibited ambitions.

Li Yan's lectures are different from other teachers, who require students to behave in a disciplined manner, not to speak in class, and to raise their hands and throw their hands;

Li Zhen let the students release their nature, lively tigers, jump and jump and fight, talk loudly, and read books to shake the sky;

Other teachers always give lectures with a straight face, shaking their heads, either "Guan Guan Ju Dove, in the River Continent", or Shi Yunzi;

Li Yan often gave children riddles to tease them. Once Li Zhen came up with such a riddle: "Emperor Lao Tzu went to steal cattle, Manchu Dynasty Wenwu became a thief; the father-in-law took the hand of his daughter-in-law, and the child broke Laozi's head." ”

Pinnacle Showdown: Li Zhen and Socrates Who lived more unfortunately, died more unjustly and more tragically?

The children guess left and right, you guess me, you guess me, you can't guess anything.

Li Yan smiled and told them the answer: "'Emperor Lao Tzu went to steal cattle' is Junbu Jun; 'Manchu Dynasty Wenwu was a thief' is a subject who is not a subject; 'Father-in-law holding his daughter-in-law's hand' is a father and not a father; 'a child breaking Laozi's head' is a son without a son." ”

In the era when Socrates lived, the teachers in Greece were basically learned by wise men, and they taught their students knowledge at a tuition fee.

Socrates did not belong to the school of the wise, and Socrates taught others without charging any cents. Sometimes his free education has aroused the disgust of the hard-educated.

How did Socrates teach?

He did not have his own private school or was employed in another school.

He was always alone every day wandering around squares, shops, temples, workshops, streets, gymnasiums, and even brothels;

Whether poor, rich, old, young, craftsman, peasant, commoner, nobleman or slave, he would teach them enthusiastically, as if preaching.

Sometimes people are busy shopping for vegetables and rushing home to cook for their children, but he pulls people to talk about life, the universe, philosophy, and then asks people: "Do you know yourself?" ”

He kept nagging until he threw his old fist at him in anger, and he shut up.

In the second round, the two have their own strengths and weaknesses, and each leads the way;

Pinnacle Showdown: Li Zhen and Socrates Who lived more unfortunately, died more unjustly and more tragically?

Now let's start the third round of the showdown:

Neither of them is tolerated in the world —

At the time of Socrates, the democratic politics of Athens rose and fell, which was exacerbated by the defeat of Athens in the Peloponnesian War.

Socrates was a patriot, and he was determined to pass on civilization to every class of Athenians in order to revitalize the country.

Therefore, he wandered the streets and alleys in the dark and white, instilling knowledge, wisdom, reason, philosophy, speculation, 、、、 hoping that people would get rid of ignorance and get rid of the shackles of God.

Yet this infuriated the ruling class, which thought: First, what qualifications and powers do you have to brainwash people? Second, has the laundry detergent you use to brainwash people approved by us? Is it qualified? Does it work? Are there any side effects?

Apparently, Socrates caused great dissatisfaction among the authorities and did not allow them to be obvious.

In his later years, Li Yan became a monk. When you are a monk and you read your sutra in the temple, he is a restless monk who keeps to himself, a monk who does not obey the rules and precepts.

Li Yan talked about the Dharma, to men and women together, this is actually nothing, all sentient beings are equal, not to mention men and women;

Pinnacle Showdown: Li Zhen and Socrates Who lived more unfortunately, died more unjustly and more tragically?

Moreover, he took in many female disciples, whom he called Guanyin, and corresponded with them, interacted, discussed the Dharma, and even drank and traveled together;

You must know that the era in which he lived was a strict talk about the defense of men and women, men and women could not bear it clearly, and starvation and death were small and big things. ** Li Yan even ran to the widow's bedroom to make love...

Li Yan not only acted so "shamelessly" and misbehaved, but more importantly, he also wrote these things out and published them, that is, in that era, communication was not developed, and today, his yanwen qi poems have long occupied the front page headlines of major media.

In fact, in ancient times, those men who had three wives and four concubines and could visit the kiln at will did not care about doing that with women at all; it was just that you could do it openly, but you could not say it, let alone say it like a loudspeaker in the sky.

However, Li Yan publicized the things that others did every day without saying or tacitly announcing. How could the self-proclaimed scholars and masters tolerate him?

Round 4: All died tragically by government poisoners.

The Athenian government arrested Socrates for "disrespecting God" and "corrupting the minds of young people", and after a trial by a jury, sentenced Socrates to death.

The Ming dynasty government arrested and imprisoned Li Zhen for "daring to advocate chaos and deceive the world and slander the people", and Li Zhen thought that what awaited him was to torture and extort confessions again and again, to grab the ground, and to cut himself off.

Pinnacle Showdown: Li Zhen and Socrates Who lived more unfortunately, died more unjustly and more tragically?

Socrates' students once managed to rescue the teacher, and they bought the jailer and completely allowed the teacher to escape, but Socrates resolutely chose to die generously. It is said that Socrates drank poisoned wine in his laughter and ended his life.

Li Yan was imprisoned, and one day he snatched the jailer's razor and slashed his throat with his sword; but because the small position of the knife was not accurate, he did not immediately swallow, bleed, could not speak, and lay in prison waiting to die until two days later.

Showdown Finale: I would like to invite dear readers to be the referee - who wins and who loses, who is wronged and who is miserable? Feel free to leave a comment in the comments section!

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