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Tan Ran Min and Li Zicheng: They are both rebels, so why are their evaluations polarized?

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About Ran Min and Li Zicheng, the specific I will not recount, Li Zicheng's story in China is called a popular population, Ran Min, although not as famous as Li Zicheng, but the blessing of the network, under the vigorous publicity of some people, Ran Min is also a famous historical figure, but unfortunately, it is notorious.

I personally think that the people who can click into this article I think you should all have more or less understanding of Ran Min, of course, if you still don't understand me, let me simply make an introduction: Ran Min was the founding emperor of Ran Wei during the Five Hu and Sixteen Kingdoms period, his original name was Shi Min, he was the adopted grandson of the Later Zhao Emperor Shi Hu, after Shi Hu died, he supported Shi Jian, and then slaughtered the Qi people and the Shi clan, and was later captured and killed in the battle with Murong Ke.

Tan Ran Min and Li Zicheng: They are both rebels, so why are their evaluations polarized?

Hit the beard.

In the network history circle for a long time, in fact, there are some feelings, people will always have a more supportive view, even if they open their mouths objectively, shut their mouths equally, how many classics are quoted, it is just to make you obediently shut up and listen to them. So no one has ever been able to look at history objectively, people are from their own point of view, but this often appears a very ridiculous phenomenon, that is, the evaluation of the same thing, or the evaluation of the same kind of thing, will be different environments and different contexts, there will be wonderful distortions, Ran Min and Li Zicheng are two very good examples.

Tan Ran Min and Li Zicheng: They are both rebels, so why are their evaluations polarized?

Hu people.

What makes Ran Min famous? Slaughter the Karma! That "kill more than 100,000 people" is really refreshing, the Internet emperors and nationalists are quite respectful of this person, people do not care to have to put on an objective hat for themselves, people will clearly say ran Min's good words, but the so-called "ordinary people" are not necessarily, borrowing a comment on Zhihu (of course, it is someone else's comment area) said, "You can see it, one by one every day the national heroes recreate Huaxia to him, normal people will be disgusted." ”

Tan Ran Min and Li Zicheng: They are both rebels, so why are their evaluations polarized?

The sealing wall of the Northern Wei Imperial Tomb (Northern Wei Jingling).

In fact, to give an example, you will understand, for example, you love to eat meat, pork and mutton can be, and then your father and your mother make pork and mutton for you every day, then even if you eat for two months a month, you are at most tired, it is absolutely impossible to shoot the case, and say to the second elder, "Are you annoying?" Give me this kind of food every day! Of course, in reality, I am unlikely to be tired, and it is even more impossible to say such words, even if I eat meat for several years, even if I am tired, I will definitely express it in a more peaceful way, such as "I think today's rapeseed is very delicious." ”

Tan Ran Min and Li Zicheng: They are both rebels, so why are their evaluations polarized?

Samurai stone statue raw.

If you are really angry with your parents because of eating meat, it can only mean that you don't like to eat meat, or that you hate pork and lamb, and your final extreme emotional outburst is an accumulation process, but if I like to eat pork and lamb, or I don't hate pork and lamb, in the end my appeal will definitely be expressed in a more peaceful way.

Tan Ran Min and Li Zicheng: They are both rebels, so why are their evaluations polarized?

Jin samurai.

This is also the truth for Ran Min's evaluation, if you don't hate this person, or think that his behavior of killing Hu is reasonable, you absolutely (or low probability) will not be because of the propaganda of the imperial han, and you will not hate this character, and it is impossible to say what "normal people will be disgusting", who is a normal person? Can you represent normal people? Can you represent all netizens?

Now that they have said such things, it can only show that they have a negative attitude toward Ran Min's act of killing Hu, and then they are deeply disgusted with Ran Min as a person, and it should be said that they are more "vicious killings.". But then the ridiculous thing happened.

Tan Ran Min and Li Zicheng: They are both rebels, so why are their evaluations polarized?

The elite cavalry of the late Ming Dynasty, the Dashun regime also had.

We all know that Li Zicheng was the leader of the rebel army at the end of the Ming Dynasty, and before 1645, the rebel army that rebelled against the tyranny of the Ming Dynasty killed an unknown number of Zhu Ming royal families, taking Shanxi as an example: Han Wenquan, an official of Taiyuan in Dashun, "captured more than 400 people in the Jin Dynasty, sent them to Xi'an, and killed them." Chen Yongfu of Taiyuan (a general of the Ming Dynasty, who had participated in the battle to guard Kaifeng) "feared that the emperor would change people, searched behind closed doors, got more than a thousand people, killed Haiziyan, and annihilated sheep and dolphins" Jiang Lang, who later surrendered to the Qing Dynasty, said: "The surname of the Emperor of Yun, about a thousand and more, the thieves live in six days, and the slaughter will be over." He also searched for Tianxing, Zhang Tianlin, and Bai Ji, and searched for a few days. And there are very few people in Surju Prefecture who are hiding in the countryside and escaping. ”

Tan Ran Min and Li Zicheng: They are both rebels, so why are their evaluations polarized?

Old Zhu.

What a terrible massacre! The massacre of the Ming Dynasty imperial family in Shanxi can be completely compared with ran Min Tuhu, but at this time, those so-called normal people are not normal, and I have seen many similar remarks, in general, in the taste of a judge: "They have eaten 300 years of hardcore crops, and now it is time to pay off the debts to the toiling masses who have been oppressed by them." Not to mention that this kind of hunting down and killing the Zhu royal family certainly had a certain civilian retaliatory nature in the early stages, but by 1643, 1644, when the Dashun regime at least appeared to be about to unify the north, why could this kind of behavior not be regarded as Li Zicheng's efforts to consolidate imperial power? And the local hunting and killing of the Zhu surname also has a kind of witch hunting nature at this time.

Tan Ran Min and Li Zicheng: They are both rebels, so why are their evaluations polarized?

Lee Zi-cheng

See? Why can they condemn Ran Min tuhu and accuse it of so-called ethnic cleansing, and at the same time demean those who support Ran Min as Huang Na, and at the same time sing praises for the class revenge of the civilians at the end of the Ming Dynasty. What about a demeaned one? At this time, let's compare these two groups, the Zhu Ming royal family and the Zhuhu of the Five Hu and Sixteen Kingdoms period, first of all, must be vested interests, the second belongs to the ruling class, the only difference, that is, it must be that The Hu is a Hu person, understand?

So this creates a kind of Vlaf-esque ridiculous scene: revenge on karma, no! Revenge on the Chu royal family, OK! Our normal history buffs are amazing!

Regarding the question of Ran Min, I have written an article before, you can find it, although it cannot be said that the examination is necessarily accurate, but it can let you understand a similar.

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