My "artillery" brother in Jilin Province
Jilin friend "artillery", self-introduction of the origin of the net name: I am a soldier, impatient, straight to the point, so I call myself "artillery". I laughed when I heard it, and I felt that I had made up my mind about this friend, and I was willing to make such a friend, not complicated, not tired.
The "Artillery" brothers and I met, which originated from a blog post of mine, analyzing the stone carvings of Qingyun Jindai Moya in the Xiaoyang Korean Nationality Township of Meihekou City, and according to the inscription "Dajin Taizu Dabao Liao Army Resting on Jieshan Mountain" and deciphering the Jurchen text content, it is presumed that this mountain is Jieshan Mountain, and the ancient city not far below the mountain may be the festival city of the Goguryeo period, that is, the Zhaoshan City of the Liaojin Period. The two of us discussed the matter many times over the past year or so, and we often argued. However, the overall goal is the same, but there are also some details that need to be further considered from time to time. To be honest, I like to think about the problem repeatedly in this way, and every time a new question is asked, it can make me re-examine the matter again, because some issues are destined to be examined for a long time, and many judgments need time to be polished and cleansed.
Tonight I read the poem "One Hundred and Forty-Six Of the Occasional Picks" issued by the circle of friends of the "Artillery":
Liaojin battlefield, no mountain appearance.
Although Le Shi was there, the Jie Dynasty had nothing to do.
After reading it, I felt that the "artillery" brothers had a new doubt, so I said to the post: "The stone of Jieshan mountain is carved in Yan, and the historical materials of the classics are again." Different readers in ancient and modern times will interpret differently and draw different conclusions with different personal experiences. Everyone sees benevolence, the wise see wisdom; the benevolent leshan, the wise enjoy the water. I know that he has recently gained some experience with the name of the river in the Huifa River Basin, and he is very happy, so he is called a "wise man" and also to enliven the atmosphere.
After a while, the "artilleryman" replied: "Just by relying on the phrase 'The Great Jin Taizu Great Breaking the Liao Army rested on the Jieshan Mountain', it is impossible to confirm the location of the standing stone, that is, the Jieshan Mountain." ”
What my friend said is not without reason, but there is no more truth to it. If the current stone carvings are not enough to explain the problem, how else can they be proved? I often cite the example of Kaiyuan "Xianzhou Ancient City": everyone says that Kaiyuan Old Town is "Xianzhou Ancient City", how to prove it, who has dug out stone tablets or green bricks from the ground, engraved with the words "Here Xianzhou", if not, how to identify it as Xianzhou? Whenever I say this, no one has ever given me a single example to reply to me. In fact, I know that there is indeed more than one stele inscribed with the word "Xianping", but no one knows or grinds it at present. If someone learns of this and replies to me, I can ask again: Why do you think that this "Xianping" is "Xianzhou"? I'm afraid it will be a few years before someone asks this question, answers this way, and asks again. I'm sure no one asked. I also have a friend in Jilin who said: "HuanglongFu is our Nong'an, and it has never been in other places, because Nong'an has a tower as evidence." The two of them turned and said: The person riding the white horse is not necessarily the prince, but also the Tang monk.
There is also the ancient city of Kaiyuan Xianzhou of Liaota
In the face of the suspicion of the "artillery" friend, I felt that he felt that the reason for designating it as a "jieshan mountain" was not sufficient enough, "the evidence was insufficient", so I also hoped to be sufficient and dispel his doubts, and I also gained true knowledge, so I replied: "Then look for it on the surrounding townships and mountains elsewhere, and it is best to find it." ”
Some issues need to be repeatedly examined and deliberated, and they also need to be viewed by various aspects, including scholars from other places. Just like the earliest "Qinghegou District Committee" problem in northern Liaoning, when I read the historical materials of northern Liaoning, I found that the Manchurian province appointed "Jiang Shan (that is, Chen Desen's pseudonym)" to carry out the work, and some historical materials say that "Jiang Shan and Chen Desen" were sent, and some historical materials only mentioned one of the two people, "Jiang Shan" or "Chen Desen". Although I understand and tend to "two people are the same person", tonight in the Fushun history group, I found an article that also said that "Jiang Shan and Chen Desen" were sent, so I carefully and weakly asked: "Jiang Shan and Chen Desen, are they two people or the same person?" A friend sent an article instead of answering, and I saw that the article was written as "Comrade Chen De (Sen)"; another friend replied: "It should be the same person." I added: "There are two kinds of statements in different sources, which have always been quite confusing. Thanks for the answer! In fact, this issue is also related to the Meihekou, just as it is related to Kaiyuan and Qingyuan.
I was very happy to hear fushun's friend's reply, and I was even happier to see the "artillery" friend's thinking, because it could prompt me to think more deeply about these questions. I very much hope that the "artillery" brothers will have more obvious and conclusive evidence, so that this problem can be concluded as soon as possible, and I hope that the problems examined by the friends of Meihe will have greater results, whether it is to empirically prove the correctness of my views or to hammer the bias of my views, in short, it is good to be able to grow and improve my understanding, especially if "let me be ready-made" Why not enjoy it. I am not an "expert scholar" and "an authoritative person", I do not like to "shoot people" or "shoot to death", for all the efforts of Meihe friends, I want to be able to help, and I am even more happy to see it. And at present, I have passed the stage of "argument for the sake of argument", and I have already opened the mode of "arguing for objective historical facts", and there will no longer be the phenomenon of "red face", "blowing beard and staring", "slapping the table and arguing", and apologize for having done so. Play for fun. Joked, it's better to work together.
Just as he was about to put his pen down, the "artillery" brother replied: "Most likely it has been submerged in the reservoir." I felt that even if there was a reservoir, a mountain of friends might be exposed to the reservoir, so I encouraged: "There is nothing difficult in the world, but I am afraid of people with hearts." If you are careful, you will always find clues. "Good luck to the "Artillery" brothers! I also wish you all the good luck of the Meihe River!
Liu Xingye on November 8, 2021