The Paper's reporter Yang Qian
For the audience, Zhao Da may not be a familiar actor name, but when it comes to Wang Fatzi, Daxun, Lü Fumeng, and Feng Shigao, they must be able to jump out of an image immediately, and will be accompanied by the impression of "acting very well". In the recent drama "The Man in the Bureau", Zhao Da starred as Luo Lizhong, a publicly old and spicy agent.
In the phenomenon that the actor's role is greater than his own, Zhao Da is a typical representative of it.
Stills from "The Man in the Bureau", Zhao Da played Luo Lizhong
If you comb through the roles that Zhao Da has played in recent years, especially the episodes of the noonday sun with guaranteed quality, he can be called a golden supporting role, but for the "golden supporting role" topic that the reporter was ready to talk about, he "ran into a wall" here in Zhao Da.
Zhao Da believes that he is actually a "big actor" type, which is not suitable for supporting roles, and it is easy to grab the scene next to the protagonist, so that the audience can focus on him, but "one mountain does not allow two tigers", which loses the role of the supporting role itself. As for what is a "big actor", Zhao Da gave an example, "Jiang Wen teacher Chen Daoming, the aura of these people pokes at that, that is, the male protagonist, may be done as soon as he debuts, and like Teacher Lin Yongjian, who was just a supporting role at the beginning, and slowly has the opportunity to give them a chance to play a role in a play, they will never play a supporting role again, and sooner or later one day they will stand in the position where they should stand." The implication is very clear.
When he was studying in the play, teachers and classmates joked that Zhao Da had a face that was late in life. This year, Zhao Da is just 40 years old.
Zhao Da, who was born in 1980, just turned 40 this year.
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Zhao Da's confidence and the self-perception of the "big actor" are not without reason. Because of his talent and strong ability, he was sent to the Shanghai Theater Academy. In 1998, the art exam was in early March, and he had already received an acceptance letter for the play around March 20. In fact, he not only had the guarantee of going to the play, but also chose to go to the chinese play. Among his classmates in the same class, there are Tong Dawei, Ren Chong and others.
Before entering the play, Zhao Da's life was a "nother person's child" who continued to shine. Since he was a child, he liked to sing and dance, and the word literary pacesetter was not enough for him. Parents like to let Zhao Da perform programs at family gatherings and friends, but most of the children's childhood shadows are Zhao Da's enjoyment moments, sometimes parents forget about this stubble, Zhao Da will hint, "Is it time for everyone to watch a show?" ”
As he wished, Zhao Da entered the Liaoning Provincial Art School, but he was about to experience the first blow of his life as a teenager - he could not speak Mandarin well. On the first day, the teacher made it clear that he was disgusted. In order to correct the "big ballast flavor", Zhao Da spent all his free time listening to the radio, and the results were remarkable. "Later, I played countless roles of Beijingers, and now I want to say that no one knows that I am from Shenyang. ”
Three years of art school is three years of expansion. Classmates have to play with him, the teacher takes him as a model, is guaranteed to be sent to the play, the parabola reached its peak before the university starts, "I feel that I am the pride of Shenyang, going to the theater will be the pride of the whole country, but if there is a quota, it is mine." "Ironically, after the start of school, Zhao Da was criticized by the drama teacher in all aspects." The performances that the teacher told me were all wrong, all exaggerated. I thought that when you snatched me from the Chinese opera, I didn't say that I was not good at acting, why did I become your student, I was the worst? ”
Zhao Da seems to have finished the spring, summer and autumn in the previous 18 years, starting from the play, only winter remains. Graduated, no drama. "No one cares for me, no one knows who I am." Zhao Da joked, that kind of mood is the same as the lyrics "This city is so empty / This memory is so fierce / This street is full of traffic / Who can I hug".
Stills from "Qing Ping Le", Zhao Da played the Eighth Prince
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After graduation, Zhao Da entered the drama center to act in dramas. Acting in drama for two years, in 2004, he followed the drama troupe to Beijing to perform Lao She's "Zheng Hong Flag", and after the performance, the old senior Jiao Huang encouraged him to stay in Beijing and break in. Zhao Da was not willing to stay in the drama center and officially became a north drifter.
"I lived in a bathhouse in Beijing for half a year, but I didn't feel bitter at that time." Living in a bathhouse is cheap and not guilty, and it is better to be a good villain than to nest in the basement of the north drift. Three people in the family want to eat, his parents are in his hometown, Zhao Da is in Beijing, and the family has not opposed his decision, and the family income is enough.
Coincidentally, at that time, Tong Dawei's TV series "Jade Guanyin" was already on fire, and it was also in Beijing. His parents were worried about Zhao Da's depression and persuaded him to send a message to his old classmate Tong Dawei and ask for a chance. Zhao Da did not send this text message in the end. "Every day I dream that Dawei can help me and take me to a play, but I have never mentioned it to Dawei, and I can't say it."
The highest record is that there is no work for a whole year. "There is a university opposite the house I rented, and I run on the track every day and have a student card in the canteen in the school. When I ran bare-chested, I thought that zhang Yimou might come to me the next second. ”
After three years of drifting north, Zhao Da met Li Chen and Kong Sheng. I thought that spring was coming again, director Kong Sheng liked Zhao Da and wanted to give him a chance, but as a newcomer, there were not many scenes at the beginning, the TV series was filmed for three months, and Zhao Da only needed to go to the set once every 5 days. Zhao Da was embarrassed in his heart, he closed his eyes and acted better than others in those scenes, why not reuse him. In addition to the day he went to the set, he broke the can for the remaining 4 days, always drank with friends, and his weight rose steadily, and the direct consequence was that Zhao Da missed "Life and Death Line".
When this drama chose the role of "Four Winds", Kong Sheng thought of Zhao Da at the beginning. "At that time, I was still eating hot pot and drinking beer, and I sent the photo over, and people looked fat and fat, forget it." Two new actors were found, one of which was Yang Shuo, and Yang Shuo became. Every time Li Chen sees me, he says who do you blame? Just blame yourself. Zhao Da later made a cameo appearance in "Life and Death Line". He still regrets his actions when he was young and ignorant, "When you complain that others don't give you a chance, you first look in the mirror to see what you look like." ”
Decadence continued into 2014. In the middle of some years, Zhao Da acted in four or five war dramas, and by the end of 2014, because of the attitude and emotional stimulation of some people around him, he felt that he could not go on like this. "I suddenly felt that I couldn't fight the devils anymore, there were too many anti-war scenes, people's hearts became very complicated, and there was no need for makeup, every day I took plasma to my face and took a gun to the battlefield, money was earned, so what was the use?" That's not the life I want. ”
He began to quit drinking, exercising, and increasing the number of movies he watched. Once again, in the eyes of the audience, it is Wang Fatzi in "The Spirit of the Ghost Blowing Lanterns". Originally, when casting, Kong Sheng thought that Zhao Da was still quite fat and felt suitable, but when they met, they found that Zhao Da had lost a lot of weight. In order not to miss the opportunity, Zhao Da gained about 40 pounds a month.
Screenshot of "The Spirit of the Ghost Blowing Lantern" screenshot, Zhao Da plays Wang Kaixuan
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Self-discipline and positive life, Zhao Da's biggest feeling is that there are more job opportunities and many more friends in the circle.
In 2019, "The Pentium Era" was launched, in which Zhao Da played Feng Shigao, and the other two protagonists were Tong Dawei and Jiang Xin, and he and these two were old acquaintances who had not been seen for many years. Since graduation, he and Tong Dawei have almost broken off close contacts, and Jiang Xin, who always played together, can imagine after the broadcast of "Zhen Huan's Biography" in 2011, "People are busy and can't see, and they are not embarrassed to bother people." On the day of the start-up ceremony, Zhao Da was at the scene and the two said, "Finally cooperation." He believed that they could hear the meaning of the words.
Deng Chao, who went to college in the same year as Zhao Da and chose to escort the Chinese drama, met with Zhao Da when preparing for the "Galaxy Tuition Class". At first sight, the two found that the experience was exactly the same, but they changed their hometown. "I joked that I was going to go to the Chinese opera, and I probably played both of our roles, and it was none of your business." Zhao Da felt that he and Deng Chao had a "heroic and heroic feeling of pity for each other".
Zhao Da happily told reporters that after these impressive supporting roles, this year he has begun to receive many male number one scripts, different types.
Stills from "The Running Age", Zhao Da played Feng Shigao
【Dialogue】
The Paper: Is it because I have a spy dream, so I took over the role of Luo Lizhong?
Zhao Da: I have to be honest, I didn't particularly want to play the role of the villain, a little selfish, afraid that the audience could not accept it, the original role was relatively positive. And the villain roles are usually not the male number one, I am afraid of being stereotyped, the most wonderful character on the main line, you may not be able to play. Now why do I dare to challenge it? Because the positive role has been successful, challenging the villain is actually a performance of acting.
From the actor's point of view, the villain role may be a little more layered, so this is to help the actor. The director said again, he wrote his own script, as if the character in his mind was me.
Screenshot of "Man in the Bureau", zhang yishan and Zhao Da's opponent play
The Paper: In addition to the villain, where is the freshness and breakthrough for you?
Zhao Da: It is because the director trusts me, and I dare to have some bold attempts on this character. Actor acting, if I do it lightly, the audience will not pick out the big problem, and will also feel that this actor is very city-oriented. But what I got was not such a role, what I got was a character image that wanted to be released, to be public, or even a little crazy, this kind of character is easy to explode, and the audience will think that the actor is too greasy, too disgusting. And most of the so-called spy drama villains we see are scheming and sophisticated, but the director just happened to write Luo Lizhong is not like this, Luo likes to do it himself, not low-key at all. This gives me a lot of challenges and space.
Probably after using two or three scenes, I basically found the tone, and then gradually entered a better situation, and I was not afraid to grind with the director over and over again, because the scene with Ilsan was the most, and he also accompanied me little by little. After this play, every day I did not dare to slack off at all, and every word and every micro-expression had to be carefully considered. This character, you could say neurotic, he was smiling one second ago, the next second he's going to be angry. This degree is a daily homework, and you can't make the audience feel that you are deliberately looking for rhythm and showing your acting skills.
Stills from "The Man in the Bureau"
The Paper: Do you usually go to see everyone's feedback when you usually act?
Zhao Da: I watched the barrage. I will look at it several times online and then look for problems, this regret is remembered, and the next role will have less regrets. I am exactly 40 years old this year, and I have also been on the stage for many years, step by step from a small role to play, acting until now, almost all people in the circle have taken a good script, will think of Zhao Da. In fact, the reason is very simple, I am not beautiful, just that, this actor can act.
The Paper: Up to now, I have played a lot of roles in the past two years, which makes everyone feel very memorable, but the audience still can't remember your name, and the first reaction is this role, will you mind this?
Zhao Da: I used to mind when I was young, and at that time there were not many opportunities in itself, and after playing the last one, people only remembered the name of the role. But now I don't mind where I am, and my life has changed.
After playing Wang Fatzi, my mentality is that I have already played the protagonist of the noonday sun, so will I be the protagonist everywhere after that? However, there are any possibilities. For example, "I am Yu Huanshui", from the perspective of the market, people may think that Guo Jingfei is more suitable, let me play a role like Lu Fumeng, there are not many scenes, the volume is not large, put aside my original mentality, I will not act.
But it turns out that the mentality is right, and all the choices are right. I didn't sleep for a few days to finish acting in Lü Fumeng, I am now shooting "Innocence and Love", people have watched my Lü Fumeng so little drama, they came to ask me to play the protagonist of this play, the producer said that after watching "I am Yu Huanshui", the director thinks that you are this role, and you don't have to change your style.
Everything we do now is useful for the future.
Stills of "I Am Yu Huanshui", Zhao Da played Lu Fumeng
The Paper: When did this mentality start to change?
Zhao Da: In fact, since 2017, there has been a little fame in the circle, you have played the protagonist of the noonday sun, where to play a supporting role, people will look up to you. It turns out that I have not played the main role, driving Santana all year round, you have not driven a Mercedes, do you know the difference between Mercedes and Santana? After driving a Mercedes-Benz, even if you share a bicycle and ride on the road, people will not look down on you. This is the biggest benefit that "Wang Fat Zi" has brought me.
In fact, the audience can remember Zhao Da, or Zhao Da's role, I have no way to decide. First, I didn't come out with a blockbuster drama. Second, I also don't have too much variety show output, such as "Sound Immersion", "The Birth of an Actor", such (variety shows) are easy for the audience to remember. I'm an actor who lets them get to know me slowly from a role.
I have been recognized by the people in the circle, this is what I care about the most, if the producers and peers in the circle do not know who I am, these 40 years will be in vain. People are doing it, and the sky is watching. You act in a high-profile manner, you are a low-key person, you can't run in this life, you can always eat this bowl of rice.
To this day, I have almost no trouble, and my agent will often tell me which team and which producer want to work with me. So the only thing I can do now is to play every role I choose. I don't have to sell myself in the past, can you give me a chance to shoot, I am now past this stage.
The Paper: When you just received a lot of scripts, did you adapt?
Zhao Da: Of course, I can adapt, because I have been silent for too many years, and I long to have a full workload every day. Now the standard for picking a play is to pick a good team, a good opponent. Some time ago, Wang Kai's play was called "Fox Hunting", when we were filming "Big River", I told Wang Kai after reading the script, this director is good, we are chatting about it, and within a few days Director Liu Xin looked for me to shoot a play.
In other words, now looking for my plays, are very good projects, some particularly large projects, I can only play the anti-one or male number two, because the male number one to the platform to recognize the actor, the actor with the largest traffic, I have no way. But in addition to this role, I pick other roles at random. Maybe the audience doesn't know that filming is not like a weekly variety show, you can see me every week, and someone has filmed for two years before meeting with everyone.
Stills of "Big Rivers and Big Rivers 2", Zhao Da played Xun Jianxiang
The Paper: Where do you think your talent for acting comes from?
Zhao Da: Feelings are very rich, a very emotional person. To do our business, we must first have super sensitivity, like children, so why do we always say that children act, adults can't act, that is, he still retains that innocent thing, and adults sometimes get stuck by some rules. But I think that a larger proportion of people's lives is opportunity, 30% talent, 60% is opportunity, that 10% is diligence and hard work, hard work is the least important, there are too many people who work hard.
The Paper: Who is the actor who inspired you the most?
Cho Da: Hwang Jeong-min (Note: Korean actor, representative works of "Agent", "International Market", "Cry"). He is a big actor in my heart, I have all the things in him, I think I should be Huang Zhengmin of China, and his understanding of acting is the state of my understanding. I knew I was going to be China's Huang Zhengmin.
The Paper: Recommend one of the best movies you've seen recently?
Zhao Da: "You are my destiny."
Editor-in-charge: Cheng Yu
Proofreader: Yan Zhang