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Dialogue | Moses on the Plains: The Poetic Romance of Ordinary People

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The Paper's reporter Gao Dan intern Li Bowei

Recently, Shuang Xuetao's novel collection "Moses on the Plain" was republished and held a press conference, which was hosted by Shi Hang and attended by Ge Fei, Li Xueqin, and Shuang Xuetao as guests.

Dialogue | Moses on the Plains: The Poetic Romance of Ordinary People

The scene of the event

"Moses on the Plain" is the representative work of novelist Shuang Xuetao, including ten very stylish short and medium stories, the most classic of the same name, outlining a cold and profound picture of the north at the end of the last century.

Actor Wang Luodan commented on the collection: "There are many shocking details and unexpected reversals in the novel of Moses on the Plains, and the most interesting thing is that the protagonist of each story will appear in another story, and the story and the story are intertwined with each other, as if opening up the omniscient perspective. In the author's cold and tense text, we seem to be able to experience the calm and calm in the hearts of the characters, and we can also feel the extraordinary behind the simple things, in the almost calm storm, everyone is banished by fate, going around and returning to the plain, which is both an understanding of the world and an inner forgiveness. ”

Dialogue | Moses on the Plains: The Poetic Romance of Ordinary People

Moses on the Plains

See the legend in the ordinary

Sharing the opening scene of the salon, Shi Hang talked about the topic of smoking cessation that several guests talked about during dinner, and thus led to the fate of many people in "Moses on the Plain" who were tossed around because of a cigarette box. Shi Hang said: "Xuetao often locks on something in the human world that we ignore, and from there experiences that a small look is a cigarette box, and the big look is the human world, it is the plain, it is Moses, it is the Red Sea, it is the exile, it is all this. So one of the advantages of Xuetao is that it is always locally sourced, but it is always meteorological and has its own universe. ”

Shuang Xuetao incorporated many details of life in the northeast at the end of the last century into his own story, touching many people's imagination and memory of the northeast. When it comes to local materials, he said that it is precisely such a small thing as a cigarette box that has left a deep memory of his childhood and wants to write it in a novel. "When my father was a child, he fanned cigarette boxes to each other and folded cigarette boxes, so when I was a child, I found that my father had a military shoulder (shoulder pocket) with the words 'Serving the People', which was full of cigarette boxes, some of which had quotations on them, and some of the cigarette boxes had portraits of people on them, which were very exquisitely painted, and they were stacked one by one. Later I started looking and found more in the cupboard. I was very impressed with the cigarette box when I was a child, and the cigarette box was sandwiched in the Sherlock Holmes Detective Collection, one by one, in the satchel pocket. So when I grew up writing Moses on the Plains, I wanted to write about these cigarette packs. But this cigarette box is written in a more literary way, and in the novel she is a woman who draws a cigarette box. Shuang Xuetao said.

Li Xueqin, who was also born in the northeast, also has a deep feeling for the northeast described in Shuang Xuetao. "I read this collection of stories in the United States in 2017. My feeling was, I had to go home. Li Xueqin said that at that time, he often discussed the places in the book with her boyfriend, "Except for the literature major, it was like a map to me." My brother was older than me, and I followed the book to find the memory that was almost over when I was born, because no one could tell me about it. So my memory of the Northeast began with my brother. But there are many people who always think that I am also very good at writing this memory, and I always discuss with me, I will say no, I can't talk about this paragraph, I recommend you to read Shuang Xuetao's book."

"After Shenyang was written by Shuang Xuetao, it was another world map and a literary map." Shi Hang commented, "I also wrote a collection of short stories called "Wild Animals in Changchun", because I am a Changchun native. When we fanatically repeatedly recommend this place name, we actually try to prove that this place name is not a place name. It is both here and there, it is my life, it is the center of my circle, it is the hometown of any one of you, it is any point in the circle, and the thing connected to the narrative is this radius, so everyone's memory is completely different. ”

Speaking of locality, Ge Fei said that not one person has locality, it is enough to have international and universal. But the Northeast story does have a very good locality, and you can feel the uniqueness of Shuang Xuetao. "This place, this geography, itself is very tense, this sense of power is very strong. And more importantly, you have to have a different perspective before you can discover something else in this locality. After you get used to it, these deliberate things, sharp things will not come out, and sharp things must be compared with another scene to show up. "So Xuetao is not only in Moses on the Plain, but also in other works, his interests are multifaceted, and this vision is also very broad, which is particularly important." ”

In addition, Ge Fei also shared his experience of "the feeling of flying at the end" when reading Shuang Xuetao's novel. "If the novel is completely a real-life imitation or record, the novel has no value. There must be some kind of reflection on life, hoping to take the reader to a special place, no matter how he flies, he will definitely have an idea of his. "So it's very clear in Moses on the Plains that this novel, the reason why I put it in the students' classroom discussions, because it's really very important, and the issues involved, including rhetoric, including literary writing, have a lot of topics worth discussing." ”

The difficult trek of a literary journey

When it comes to the experience of engaging in the profession of writer, Ge Fei and Shuang Xuetao's description and opinion are very consistent. Ge Fei said: "The writer's experience is very rich, if I choose a word to say this experience, the most pleasant time must be when the brain is burning, burning very fully, you feel that the brain is hot, that feeling is no game or other happiness in life can be compared, the feeling of brain burning is very beautiful, it is also very charming." ”

Shuang Xuetao said that he could live this life by doing other work, but he was lucky to be a writer. "The greatest luck is to enjoy, of course, there are many times of pain, but enjoy things, just like what Teacher Ge Fei said about self-immolation."

When it comes to fiction creation and misunderstanding, Ge Fei pointed out that people who write novels don't just want to write a good story. "When my father was alive, because he could read braiser, he always thought that the works written by his son seemed to be famous, and he was very proud, and he went back and tried everything he could to read them, and then he had a heart attack, because he couldn't read it, and the book was very difficult. Later, I tried desperately to persuade him, I said that you must not read my books, I will buy you Jin Yong. ”

Shuang Xuetao also agrees with this statement. "I used to be very difficult to read ugly books, because I always felt that books, especially novels, should be wonderful, or it had to make me read, I had a hard time putting up with the boring parts of novels, but recently I can endure, especially some long novels, it is very organic part, that long, boring part is part of it, you can't always pursue wonderful." 」 He said, "I have seen some things about Kafka before, but now I see that it has changed a lot, that I am not the same writer in my heart, that I am certainly feeling better and stronger than I did before, and that my understanding of fiction is gradually changing." ”

"Because as a reader, this perception happens a lot." Ge fei explains, "I have often broadened my original thinking lately, and it is Balzac who has made me change some of my original judgments. I find that we have completely misunderstood this man in a big way, balzac sometimes very instigated, and the reason why he instigates you is unbearable, and the reason why it is unbearable is not that people write badly, but that we are young and ignorant. Recently, when I re-read Balzac's instigations, you found that those instigations were very wonderful, such as the fact that I recently recommended to Ah Yi one of his works, "The Tale of the Donkey Skin", and the discussion in the "Donkey Skin" was wonderful, and it had a very broad vision. So read Balzac, you will slowly understand why he became a great writer who is highly regarded and looked up to, and you can't easily ignore him. ”

Editor-in-Charge: Liang Jia

Proofreader: Shi Gong

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