Why do Indians work so hard to be accepted and recognized by the West?

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Things were different before.

My generation (70s) didn't just see China get stronger. We also saw big changes in how people thought. When I was young, many friends only had good things to say about other countries while attributing domestic shortcomings to inherent flaws of our nation. They wanted to leave China and go to rich countries. Many people felt this way.

But things changed after the year 2k. As "Made in China" products became increasingly sophisticated, and some Western countries didn't like that. They said bad things about China. This made most young educated Chinese people stop wanting to be like the West. Now, young people in China feel good about our country. They control the news and information. The older people who liked the West are fading away.

It wasn't the same before. Our generation (the 70s) has witnessed not only China becoming stronger, but also a dramatic change in people's mindsets. When I was younger, many of my friends would only say good things about other countries, but blame the inherent defects of our nation for the shortcomings at home. They want to go to developed countries outside of China. Many people hold this view.

But this changed after 2000. As "Made in China" products become more and more complex, some Western countries are not happy with them. They make irresponsible remarks about China. This makes most well-educated young Chinese no longer want to be like the West. Now, young Chinese are proud of their country. They receive news and information from within the country. And those who once aspired to the West of the older generation are gradually decreasing.

Santosh Kumar

Only some Indians. Generalizing Indians is very hard because they are extremely diverse group of people unlike Chinese people — to be sure Chinese are diverse but not as much as Indians. So the argument is not correct in general.

The urban Indian with some education in English is the group that is most likely to espouse the West. This is because they aspire to be in the West and they like to be part of western success story. Many of them want to emigrate and settle in the West.

Chinese have options — their own country is very advanced now and on track to become a developed nation. Urban Indians do not have that luxury or choice. Some people would like to brand it as “slave mentality” etc. but honestly what is wrong in aspiring a good life ? What is wrong in seeking acceptance from people who you admire? Admiration and slavish admiration are different things. But whatever it is Indians need to stop the brain drain and capital migration to the west.

Only some Indians are like this. It's hard to generalize about Indians because they're a very diverse group, unlike the Chinese – of course, the Chinese are diverse, but not as diverse as the Indians. So your statement is generally incorrect.

Indian city dwellers with some English education are the most likely group to support the West. Because they aspire to live in the West, they like to be the parties to the success stories of the West. Many of them dream of emigrating to settle in Western countries.

On the contrary, the Chinese have a choice – their own country is now very developed and is gradually developing into a developed country. Indian city dwellers do not have such luck or choice. Some people will label it as a "slave mentality" etc., but honestly, is there anything wrong with pursuing a good life? Is there anything wrong with asking for approval from someone you admire? Worship and blind worship are two different things. But in any case, Indians must stop the brain drain and the migration of capital to the West.

DSP Bhurelal

Almost all of Indians keep their Indian names and their birth religion where ever they might live whereas most of the Chinese are quick to adopt an abrahamic name. India will be the last country standing against Abrahamism.

Almost all Indians kept their Indian names and religions in their settlements, but most Chinese soon took on Abrahamic names. India would be the last country to oppose Abrahamism.

Kandasamy Balasubramaniam

India and China were once GREAT CIVILIZATIONS

India under the Mauryas and Guptas had a Golden Era while Chinese had their own Golden Ages under various Dynasties

Like all great Civilizations decline - India and China also declined rapidly from the 1800s or so

Like Sumeria, Assyria, Uruk, Ancient Egypt, Ancient Greece, Rome etc

All Great Civilizations decline

Both India and China were great civilizations

India was in a golden age under the Mauryan and Gupta dynasties, and China had its own golden ages under different dynasties.

Just as all great civilizations decline, India and China also declined rapidly from around the 19th century.

Like Sumer, Assyria, Uruk, Ancient Egypt, Ancient Greece, Rome, and many more.

All great civilizations decline

India was annexed and enslaved by Invaders last being the Britishers but also by Dutch, French and Portuguese while China had their Spheres of Influence

India was annexed and enslaved by invaders, and in addition to the British in modern times, it was also enslaved by the Dutch, French, and Portuguese, while China had its own sphere of influence

These people rose and began to take pride in a Nation and were united by hard work

They believed themselves equal to both the Soviets and the US and decided to take whatever they could from both these Global Giants but ultimately for the benefit of China & it's people

This Chinese Nationalism slowly eradicated the Subservient Slave Mentality that had exsted in the Chinese in the 1800s and 1850s upto the 1900s. It's why many Taiwanese still have this slavish mentality to the West.

These people stood up and began to be proud of their country and united by their hard work.

They considered themselves no worse than the Soviet Union and the United States, and were determined to get everything possible from these two global powers, with the ultimate goal of satisfying the interests of China and the Chinese people.

This nationalism in China has slowly eradicated the servile mentality that existed in the Chinese in the 19th century, the 50s and the early 20th century. This is the reason why many Taiwanese in China still have this servile mentality towards the West.

They were poor but they were Chinese first

This Nationalism was always there

Even when they went to the US, they were always Chinese at heart. They learnt, imbibed but ultimately they were Chinese

As China grew richer, they began to leave in lesser numbers and stay back home and become less dependent on the West

Today they deem themselves competitors of the West

They will be equals but never subservient to the West

They used to be very poor, but they were first and foremost Chinese

This nationalism has always existed

Even if they go to the United States, they are still Chinese at heart. They learn, they absorb, but in the end they are still Chinese

Now that China is getting richer, fewer and fewer people are leaving China, they are willing to stay at home, and they are becoming less and less dependent on the West

Today, they see themselves as competitors to the West

They will be adversaries, but will never be subservient to the West

India had no such movement

India copied the Western Democracy and ensured that the voice of the real people - the millions of common men were simply never heard

Instead a few politicians took over and ruled over common man like the Britishers

Thus the SUBSERVIENCE just kept on exsting and growing

There is no such movement in India

India has copied the Western cooking system, but the voices of the Indian people – the voices of millions of ordinary Indians – are not listened to at all

On the contrary, some politicians, like the British, have taken over and ruled ordinary Indians

The flattery of Indians continues to grow day by day

The servant or slave like obsession with the West and hanging for Western praise and approval and cheering

The Indian mentality is ready to be treated as a servant albeit highly paid

Unless we have our own revolution in India, like the Chinese Civil War - we will always be this way under our Gutter system

They are obsessed with the Western world like servants or slaves, always craving praise and recognition from the West

Although the salary is not low, Indians are willing to be treated like servants at heart

Unless we make a revolution in India, like the Chinese Civil War, we will never be able to change

Flyhi Gao

Things were different before.

My generation (70s) didn't just see China get stronger. We also saw big changes in how people thought. When I was young, many friends only had good things to say about other countries while attributing domestic shortcomings to inherent flaws of our nation. They wanted to leave China and go to rich countries. Many people felt this way.

It wasn't like this before.

Our generation (the 70s) has not only witnessed China's growing strength. We've also seen a huge change in the way people think. When I was younger, many of my friends only spoke good things about other countries and blamed China's inherent shortcomings for their domestic shortcomings. They want to leave China and settle in rich countries. Many people feel this way.

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But things changed after the year 2k. As "Made in China" products became increasingly sophisticated, and some Western countries didn't like that. They said bad things about China. This made most young educated Chinese people stop wanting to be like the West. Now, young people in China feel good about our country. They control the news and information. The older people who liked the West are fading away.

But after 2000, things changed. "Made in China" products are becoming more and more refined, and some Western countries do not like this. They speak ill of China. So most educated young Chinese don't want to be like the West anymore. Now, China's young people are proud of our country. They control the news and information. Those older people who like the West are slowly disappearing.