The speeding of the Great Wall, what is the matter with BYD?
Produced by Tiger Sniff Automobile Group
Author: Li Wenbo
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If there is a car now, in actual driving, it burns 18 liters of fuel per 100 kilometers, guess what displacement this car is?
If nothing else, it should be a 12-cylinder 6.0T turbo. The worst thing is that it has to be a six-cylinder 3.0T high power, which really can't be smaller.
So, what if the answer is: four-cylinder 1.5T turbocharging.
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I believe that everyone's first reaction when they hear the answer "four-cylinder 1.5T" is probably the same as me: outrageous.
Let's do a kindergarten-level arithmetic problem: according to the price of No. 92 gasoline at 7.88 yuan/liter, 18 oils per 100 kilometers means that an average of 1.4 yuan will be spent on one kilometer. If you drive 50 kilometers a day, the cost of light fuel will be 70 yuan.
Although this is not enough for a light lunch in Shanghai, it is enough to cover the food expenses of most families of three in China for a day.
Wait, is such an expensive price still the "almost negligible" cost of using a car that everyone is talking about in the current era of "accelerating the global transition to sustainable energy"?
Definitely not.
But the magic of reality lies in the fact that recently, when a "car critic" conducted the so-called "fuel consumption measurement" of the BYD Formula Leopard 5, this new energy vehicle that will roll off the assembly line in 2023 drove a fuel consumption of 18 or 19 per 100 kilometers that is quite rare for old fuel vehicles with large displacement.
Directly let BYD, the world's most radical car company in the field of new energy, turn around.
Anyone who knows a little about BYD knows that you can complain about BYD's design, quality, workmanship, noise, car machine, production capacity and many other things, but you can't complain about BYD two things:
The first is price.
The second is fuel consumption.
When things go wrong, there must be demons. Now, let's start today's academic discussion of "Where Did My Gasoline Go?"
Double C certification?
According to the public information restoration, this matter is roughly like this:
A car reviewer (real name: Yao Weiqiang), who is known as "Daqin Army Shaanxi Tuan" on Douyin, posted a video of his own actual road test of the BYD Formula Leopard Leopard 5, and the results show that the fuel consumption of the Leopard 5 is as high as 18 to 19 liters per 100 kilometers at high speeds. This measured data is far from the official feed fuel consumption of 7.8 liters per 100 kilometers given by the equation leopard.
Soon, Equation Leopard issued an official statement saying: In response to the police's request for evidence in the case of "2023.11.28 Yao is suspected of driving a motor vehicle speeding", the relevant vehicle operation data was obtained. The data shows that there were a large number of abnormal driving behaviors of the vehicle on that day, mainly the following points:
1. During the whole high-speed driving process, there are 3 periods of time when the speed exceeds 180 km/h, and 6 periods of time when the speed exceeds 170 km/h;
2. In the whole high-speed driving process, the speed of 120-140 km/h accounts for more than 37%, the speed of 140-160 km/h accounts for more than 46%, and the speed exceeds 160 km/h accounts for more than 4%;
3. Abnormal stopping times are found on some sections of the expressway.
A little calculation shows that the test has a ratio of 37%+46%+4%=87%, which is in the overspeed range. Only 13% were driven within the speed limit of 120 km/h.
Even at 132 km/h, the maximum speed limit with no points or fines, it is at least more than half of the time in the speed range. In addition, the speed limit on some sections is up to 100 km/h.
At the same time, according to the speed curve published by Formula Leopard, this car not only surpasses ordinary people in speed at high speeds. In terms of driving technology, it is by no means an idle person, often with one foot of the accelerator to the end, one foot of the brake to the end, ordinary people drive a lifetime of car, will not have the limit of operation.
However, when you know Yao Weiqiang's identity as the "Dean of the Tank Desert Academy, a hard-core off-road brand under Great Wall Motors", you will feel that these previous operations can only be regarded as daily life for the "Yao team".
After seeing the speed curve, many existing and potential users of Equation Leopard expressed their gratitude to the "Yao team" for testing the performance of the Leopard 5 under extreme working conditions at their own expense.
You must know that a hard-core off-road vehicle with a weight of nearly three tons and a square box shape can neither stall nor roll over when the air conditioning is 30 °C, carrying 3 people, opening the window, and most of the time the speed exceeds 140 km / h, which is a realm that many more expensive foreign cars cannot reach.
It should be said that the Leopard 5 is the first BYD model to have passed the "double C certification", that is, the official C certification of the national mandatory safety and the civil C certification of Great Wall Motors.
Aside from this group of "thank you crowds" with great wisdom and big patterns, the focus of the vast majority of ordinary people is focused on the "Yao team" suspected of dangerous driving and "malicious smearing of BYD".
However, things have "reversed" again: on December 4, the "Yao team" released a video saying that it had taken the initiative to contact the local traffic management department, and the traffic management department criticized and educated him for driving from Weinan to Wuhai on November 28, and made a criticism and education for the speed limit of 80 and the actual speed of 103 at the Wuhai South Ring of National Highway 110, and made a decision to deal with 200 yuan and 3 points.
On the surface, this is "obvious" different from the data of the "Yao team" exceeding 180 km/h in the three time periods officially announced by Formula Leopard. However, in fact, the local traffic management department only dealt with the speeding behavior of the "Yao team" on the national highway within the jurisdiction, and did not give any decision on his speeding behavior on the highway outside the jurisdiction, and the two should not be confused and should not be confused.
In fact, if "Team Yao" wants to prove his innocence, it couldn't be simpler, as long as he releases the full video of his driving behavior on the highway stored in the Leopard 5 dashcam. If the speed curve announced by the equation leopard does not conform to the facts, the "Yao team" can immediately sue.
As of December 6, no second traffic management department has given a decision on the behavior of the "Yao team".
Hardcore are all oil tigers?
While we are looking at developments, we should also focus on one of the more meaningful technical discussions, which is:
When will the stereotype of "hard-core off-road vehicles be oil tigers" that has existed in the automotive industry for too many years will be broken?
In many people's cognition, let alone "hardcore", just seeing the word "off-road vehicle" can instantly think of the embarrassment when they were emptied of their wallets at the gas station after buying a car.
It makes sense. I casually looked for the long-term fuel consumption data of several hardcore off-road vehicles on the bear fuel consumption, and found that these cars with the label of "the strongest all-terrain monster on the surface" are also "monster-level" in terms of gold-swallowing ability:
Jeep imported Grand Cherokee, 5.7L 326 horsepower V8 engine, fuel consumption range per 100 kilometers: 14.38 ~ 19.62 liters;
Beijing BJ 80, 3.0T 280hp V6 engine, fuel consumption range per 100 km: 12.55 ~ 17.85 liters;
Volkswagen Touareg, 4.2L 350hp V8 engine, fuel consumption range per 100 km: 13.98 ~ 18.67 liters;
Toyota Prado, 4.0L 243 hp V6 engine, fuel consumption range per 100 km: 12.33 ~ 16.41 liters;
Land Rover Defender, 3.0T 400hp L6 engine, fuel consumption range per 100 km: 11.92 ~ 15.72 liters;
However, when electric energy began to take over the power control of hard-core off-road vehicles, the fuel consumption of the previous "monster level" not only loosened, but also began to become a "little sheep" trend.
For example, the Jeep Wrangler has a fuel consumption of 9.4 liters per 100 kilometers for the fuel version, and only 4.7 liters for 100 kilometers in the plug-in hybrid version in a live state, and the fuel economy of the plug-in hybrid version is significantly higher than that of the fuel model. The protagonist of this incident, Leopard Leopard 5, is also a typical case. As an off-road vehicle with a comprehensive system power of 687 horsepower, the official fuel consumption is only 7.8 liters per 100 kilometers, and the result of the winter test is 7.41 liters per 100 kilometers.
In the new energy era, the ability of hard-core off-road vehicles is still a "tiger", but not an "oil tiger". In addition to significantly reducing fuel consumption, the entry of electric energy also strengthens the three shortcomings of pure fuel hard-core off-road vehicles:
First of all, there is the center of gravity. The weight of the battery pack itself is not light (the 17-degree ternary lithium battery used in the Wrangler plug-in hybrid version weighs nearly 85 kg), plus the motor, the overall layout is at the rear of the vehicle, and the engine located in the front of the vehicle wrestles with each other, so that the weight of the whole vehicle is balanced before and after, and the center of gravity is in a low position. The engine of a pure fuel hardcore off-road vehicle is located at the front, which can easily cause the center of gravity to be too far forward, increasing the chance of rollover.
Secondly, there is the torque output. We know that the engine of a pure fuel hard-core off-road vehicle must be within a specific speed range in order to output peak torque. But the motor is different, in a very low speed range, it can output all the torque, and the response speed is extremely fast, there is no need to "wait" at all, the car has already dug itself out of the pit.
Finally, it is more reassuring than pure electric off-road vehicles. The off-road road conditions are complex, with large ups and downs, many ramps, and most of them are in barren mountains and mountains, inaccessible, once there is no electricity, it is difficult for pure electric vehicles to move an inch. The plug-in off-road vehicle can be fueled and electric, which basically eliminates the range anxiety when off-road. In addition, due to the extra battery, new energy off-road vehicles are generally equipped with external discharge functions, which can supply power to external electronic equipment (lighting, heating, cooking, mosquito repellent, etc.), which is more in line with the needs of "off-road" scenarios.
Privacy, which pot is not opened and which pot is not mentioned?
In the Leopard 5 incident, in addition to speeding and fuel consumption, there is another term that is frequently mentioned by everyone: privacy.
Many people believe that Equation Leopard directly announced the operation data of this car without the consent of the owner, so that the owner almost ran naked in front of the people of the country, which was very insecure.
In fact, as long as you carefully look at this set of operating data, you will find that Equation Leopard only publishes the speed and time, and desensitizes sensitive information, such as frame number, geographical location, full name of the owner, etc.
Moreover, at the beginning of the statement, Equation Leopard stated his attitude: he only consulted user data in response to the police's request for evidence in the case of "2023.11.28 Yao is suspected of driving a motor vehicle for speeding".
Therefore, the order of development of the whole thing is: Yao posted a video→ netizens found that Yao was speeding→ netizens reported a large number of @traffic police in the comment area→ traffic police asked for equation leopard data.
Instead of Yao sending a video→ Equation Leopard took the initiative to adjust the data→ Equation Leopard reported to the traffic police.
The following three cases of real infringement of user privacy are typical:
The first one is from Tesla, the United States, which is in the limelight.
In April, nine Tesla employees who have left the company revealed that between 2019 and 2022, Tesla employees privately shared a large number of sensitive images and videos recorded by the owner's car camera in the internal chat system, some of which were extremely invasive to user privacy. For example, a man approached a vehicle naked, and a Tesla car drove at high speed in a residential area and hit a child riding a bicycle.
Even, even the Lotus sports car in the private garage of the boss Musk was photographed by the camera of his own car.
In 2022, a Gaohe car owner found himself in the vehicle's built-in dashcam interface, by clicking on the "car launch WIFI" function icon, you can see the list of owners of the same model nationwide. Click on the name of any car owner, and after a short load buffer, the image of the other car owner's dash cam will be projected onto their own car. The information such as the avatar, nickname and distance of other car owners is clear at a glance, without any desensitization, and when the vehicle is powered off, the camera still works, providing real-time images of networking.
The third is from China's Weima, which has been cooled down.
In 2021, WM Motor released the "China New Energy Vehicle Owner Guide", which analyzes big data such as driving behavior, intelligent experience preferences and user image characteristics to show the image of WM car owners across the country. The granularity of the data is breathtaking, and a few excerpts are readily available: 57% of car owners in Shanghai turn on the fragrance system every day, with an average use time of nearly 1 hour, 97.35% of car owners in Beijing install an electric heating system, 67.2% of car owners in Heilongjiang choose a red appearance, 58.1% of car owners in Hebei Province drive alone, and 56.8% of car owners in Sichuan Province have a co-pilot.
Regarding the privacy of new energy vehicles, the General Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine of the People's Republic of China and the Standardization Administration of the People's Republic of China have stipulated in the national standard GB/T 32960.1-2016 "Technical Specifications for Remote Service and Management System for Electric Vehicles" issued in 2016:
Car companies will first send dynamic information such as vehicle status, charging status, and system operation status of new energy vehicles to the enterprise platform, and then upload the enterprise platform to the public platform established by the government or designated institutions, so that the government can directly supervise the status of the end product.
Car companies upload real-time vehicle data, drive motor data, fuel cell data, engine data, vehicle location data, extreme value data, alarm data and other information of new energy vehicles (communication protocol and data format: GB/T 32960.3-2016). If it is a private car, there is no need to upload the vehicle location data to avoid violating the privacy of the car owner.
Such a demand for data is an acceptable range for most new energy vehicle users.
Moreover, every car company in the world, without exception, will conduct research on the desensitized user behavior data, otherwise the improvement and improvement of follow-up products will be in the air.
Because we all know that without data sharing, there can be no economic activities that can be coordinated.
As F.A. Hayek said, "The first problem of the economy and society is the use of the information scattered in the hands of individuals." This is because the knowledge we need in a decision-making scenario never exists in a holistic way, but is scattered in the hands of different individuals in an incomplete and often contradictory way. ”
And, based on a large number of research findings, there is a perplexing "slap in the face" phenomenon among users around the world:
The privacy paradox.
That is, no matter what country or cultural environment, everyone will verbally say that they care very much about privacy. But in practice, with only a small financial compensation, many people will be more than happy to share their personal information.
A study conducted in the United States found that a small slice of pizza was enough for most people who participated in the experiment to voluntarily provide their own email addresses and those of their friends.
The "Data and Privacy in the Digital Age" report shows how Chinese users approach privacy: 75% of the time users choose to authorize information when asked for data. And most of them don't regret their choice.
Since I don't regret authorizing and sharing the data, why did the car company publish the desensitized data according to the requirements of the public security organs, and suddenly remembered this and rushed to jump out to maintain the "right to privacy" that had been actively transferred a long time ago?
That's not that.
Write at the end
After the Equation Leopard 5 incident, Li Yunfei, general manager of BYD Group's brand and public relations department, made an impassioned statement on social media: In many scenarios, BYD's technology and products are often disgusted and targeted by all kinds of tricks, and all kinds of bad behaviors are too numerous to mention.
He believes that Chinese car companies should not roll down the lower limit, but should roll technology, products, and services. The war of words will neither help the industry nor benefit itself.
Coincidentally, last month, Wei Jianjun, chairman of Great Wall Motors, also criticized the current chaos in the automotive industry at the "2023 World Internet Conference Wuzhen Coffee Club Car Night Talk":
The Internet water army is very bottomless and very dirty, and there are many cars with rhythm. Our friends have indeed mastered the logic of Internet communication, and they are indeed a step ahead of us, what Audi buys his power, Toyota buys his technology, how much investment, etc.
Listen, listen, the two bigwigs are telling us with practical actions that many aspects of Chinese cars are not "together". But in the matter of the "water army", they have been "together" for a long time.
Otherwise, how can you say exactly the same thing?