For Deyun Society, which has long lived under the aura of "China's first private cross-talk group", it used to live very happily and moistly in the cross-talk industry, and suddenly one day when I looked up, I found that the wolf was coming.
This wolf is talk show, or simply the fourth season of Talk Show Convention.
No matter from the data on which platform, the popularity of "Talk Show Conference 4" is far beyond "Deyun She douxiao 2", such as the single month Baidu search index, the overall daily average value of "Talk Show Conference 4" is 16950, and the overall daily average value of "Deyun Shedou laughing society 2" is 7148.
If you use the most intuitive cumulative playback comparison, as of October 12, the cumulative playback of "Talk Show Conference 4" reached 2.55 billion, while the cumulative playback of "Deyun Dou Laughing Society 2" is 1.46 billion, which is almost not an order of magnitude.
The gap in the real-time playback data intercepted by the author at the time of the article is even greater, with "Talk Show Conference 4" reaching 6.42 million, while the real-time playback of "Deyun She douxiaosha 2" is only 1.33 million.
Put it this way, if "Talk Show Conference 4" is Lü Bu, "Deyun Dou Laughing Society 2" can probably only be Gongsun Zhan, and Gongsun Zhan may win, and the single challenge is not an opponent at all.
Of course, we also have to look at the gap between the two programs objectively, the "Deyun Society Douxiao Society" series of group roundup has never been the hottest program, and it is the norm to keep the top few on the hot list, after all, xiangsheng still belongs to a relatively niche market, and there is no such wide audience as traffic stars and mass entertainment projects.
But this time is different from the past, talk shows are also strictly speaking a niche market, and even for a long time it has been a more niche entertainment project than cross-talk, and more intuitively, in terms of performance form and performance purpose, talk shows and cross-talk have extremely similarities.
Even so, Li Shi, the creator of "Talk Show Conference 4", was Wang Zijian's younger brother in "Tonight's Post-80s Talk Show", and Wang Zijian was a cross-talk actor with a formal cross-talk master's inheritance, Master Hou Yaohua, Master Chang Baohua, And Shizu Ma Sanli, and on the basis of Wang Zijian's identity as a Ma family cross-talk descendant, it is much more authentic than Zhao Peiru's disciple Sun Guo Degang.
In addition, don't forget, Wang Zijian was Zhang Boxin's younger brother at that time, and Zhang Boxin was the younger brother of Guo Degang, the leader of the Deyun Cross-Talk Alliance, and the two became famous in the country as "I Love Guo Degang".
Just kidding, "Talk Show Conference 4" is actually the younger brother of Guo Degang's little brother as the main creator, and as a result, Guo Degang's "Deyun Dou Laughing Society 2" was completely exploded in all aspects of data.
Of course, if you analyze it objectively, the results are not surprising for the comprehensive transcendence of "Talk Show Conference 4" to "Deyun Dou Laughing Society 2".
1, the experience summary and warm-up effect of the first three seasons of "Talk Show Conference" and "Spit Conference" cannot be ignored, and relatively speaking, "Deyun Dou Laughing Society" seems to be in the exploratory stage.
2. "Talk Show Conference" is currently on the rise no matter what aspect, and has eaten a lot of incremental markets. "Deyun Dou Laughing Society" is relatively stable, most of the time eating the stock market, to put it bluntly, it is eating fans.
3, Deyun Society's cross-talk has been popular for more than ten years, new works and freshness are getting less and less, and talk shows, especially the talk show team led by Li Shi, have just embarked on the fast track of development for a few years, in other words, it is still very fresh, and new works and new paragraphs are emerging in an endless stream.
4, there is another one, perhaps the fans of Deyun Society will not admit it, but realistically speaking, "Talk Show Conference 4" is closer to the times, and the overall quality of the players is also higher. The quality of the overall players of "Deyun Dou Laughing Society 2" cannot be compared with the stand-up comedians.
5. In 2005, In addition to being appreciated by cross-talk enthusiasts, Guo Degang's cross-talk was also sought after by urban white-collar workers, college students and cultural elites, and now urban white-collar workers, college students and cultural elites are obviously more interested in talk shows.
As a result, there are some voices on the Internet that "Deyun Society was defeated by talk shows" and "cross-talk obsolescence and decline".
In this regard, Guo Degang, the class leader of the Deyun Society, seemed somewhat anxious when interviewed by reporters.
The Yangcheng Evening News reporter asked Guo Degang to talk about the topic of "cross-talk being snatched up by talk shows", Guo Degang said a lot, and there are probably three points in summary:
1, talk shows are not new, as early as 100 years ago existed in crosstalk, saying that stand-up comedy "Journey to the West" and "Three Kingdoms" will have 20 minutes of preparation before, such as "Today the audience is coming a lot, I like you... What fun things I met on the way here today, how are our children?" and so on, this prelude (the audience called gossip) is a talk show.
2, it may be said that the friends of the talk show are not willing to get too close to crosstalk, so they separate out a "song genre".
3, whoever has a good life, I am happy, but if from an artistic point of view, I can only say that this form existed 100 years ago, and so on, I also wish the talk show better and better.
I believe that readers who are familiar with Guo Degang can see from Guo Degang's interview that Lao Guo may indeed be a little anxious, saying that he is not "envious and jealous of jealousy and hatred" for talk shows, but it is also true that some mouths are unguarded and even steal concepts. If you are joking, Lao Guo has some Q spirit this time: although I can't beat you, you are my son.
The author does not agree too much with Guo Degang's statement.
First of all, the performance form of stand-up comedy is indeed somewhat similar to stand-up comedy, but people really do not develop from stand-up comedy, China's talk show performance is actually an imported product, but this form of performance in foreign countries is not called talk show, but stand-up comedy.
Guo Degang can't say that talk shows originated from cross talk because the form of stand-up comedy is like stand-up comedy, just like a sketch looks like a cross talk drama, but in fact, people are born from film and television school training classes.
In the same way, the cross-talk of the Deyun Society is sometimes very similar to the two-person rotation of Xiao Shenyang and Song Xiaobao, but can you say that the cross-talk of the Deyun Society originated from the two-person rotation?
Besides, Guo Degang said that the gossip before the commentary and stand-up comedy is not inherent in the industry, you see Yuan Kuocheng and Liu Baorui which of them has ripped the idle for 20 minutes.
Secondly, the relationship between the development of China's talk show and cross-talk is really not big, in addition to Wang Zijian's origins, the reason why talk shows can quickly absorb powder and quickly become popular is actually related to two factors.
One is the fragmented, segmented network atmosphere, this atmosphere also affected the cross-talk, Guo Degang's cross-talk use of a lot of network segments to enrich the content, but the paragraph to carry forward is a talk show, like Li Tian himself is from the network of dan hands.
The second is works and talents, saying that there are many people who talk about talk shows, why so many people who said talk shows before were not red, but "Talk Show Conference" is red, the fundamental reason is that "Talk Show Conference" has a group of excellent players and excellent works.
The reason why Guo Degang became popular in 2005 was not because his name was Guo Degang, nor because he was Hou Yaowen's apprentice, but because he had a batch of excellent cross-talk works.
Now Guo Degang has made his apprentices popular through various channels and methods, but the number of excellent cross-talk works of these apprentices is not proportional to their fame and traffic at all, so many people in the Nede Cloud Society, including Guo Degang, are actually eating the old book, the popularity and traffic accumulated before eating.
At the same time, the popularity of "Talk Show Conference" is not because of the fame of some people, but because this show has many very good works, without good works, ordinary audiences will not chase a few half-baked young people silly music.
In the final analysis, the key factor that determines whether a performance and program is popular or not is not only the star, but also the king of good works.