The dispute between Guo Degang and Jiang Kun has always been a topic of discussion that everyone is keen to discuss.
Since Mr. Guo became popular in 2006 and Teacher Jiang put forward the "anti-three customs", time has flown by, and it has been 16 years.
What is right and what is wrong is still inconclusive.
Is It unfair for Mr. Ma Weidu's evaluation to be clearly biased in favor of Lao Guo?
Mr. Ma
In one episode, Mr. Ma talked about the origins of crosstalk, saying that it originated in Beijing Tianqiao and Tianjin Sanwu, which is said to be a place where serious people don't go.
There are many complicated reasons for the low status of Pear Garden, and it is also the helplessness of that era, and the same is true for cross-talk, in fact, there is no difference between asking for food.
Lao Zu was "poor and not afraid" Zhu Shaowen was still divided into "Qingmen" and "Hunmen" at that time, and he did not know who rushed to the set, selling thirteen incense, selling consumable medicine, selling singing, and thinking that it was the original ecology of cross-talk.
Masters multiplied
If you have to put him above the clouds, this kind of thing must be unsatisfactory.
Mr. Chang Lian'an, after founding the Qiming Tea Society, cross-talk can be regarded as entering the theater, and the cross-talk reform group in the 1950s can be regarded as a rebirth of cross-talk.
But the reform of cross-talk itself is imperfect, on the one hand, the root of this art is street art, and on the other hand, it is for the needs of cultural propaganda to make it cater to the trend.
There's a very embarrassing thing that comes out of this.
If you are fully committed to tradition, it is a matter of route; If you completely abandon tradition, you become an immature and unattractive form of performance.
Qiming Tea House
Therefore, this faction represented by Mr. Jiang is often linked to official propaganda.
Before the 1980s, this style of performance was naturally no problem, but with the reform and opening up and the improvement of the audience's appreciation level, it was naturally not enough to meet the three stages.
Cross-talk is a language art, but also a satirical art, how to understand together?
Personally, I think it is nothing more than raising the bar to scold the street and saying strange things, mixing mouths and pretending to make a cough, using this contrast or acupuncture to make mistakes, or exposing ugliness, this grassroots art is a way for ordinary people to vent the blocks in their chests.
Jiang Kun Tang Jiezhong
The Republic of China can satirize the former Qing Dynasty ("The Dream of the Western Expedition" was born out of the poor and not afraid of "Victory Map" at the end of the Qing Dynasty), or it can satirize the warlords ("Han Qingtian", Liu Baorui, 1937, "Guan Gong Zhan Qin Qiongyao", Zhang Jieyao 20s and 30s, the specific year is unknown)
It is also possible to satirize the Japanese (Liu Baorui in "Fighting Law", Chang Baokun in "Tooth Powder Bag"). In this historical context, there is naturally nothing wrong with cross-talk as a street culture and satirizing society, but it has nothing to do with Ya.
Further, even the traditional passages of "Bell Notation", "Four Pipes and Four Jurisdictions", "Five Lines of Poetry", and "Eight Cat Diagrams" have nothing to do with elegance when deeply investigated.
Tokuunsha
In the new era, the praise type of cross-talk began to emerge, taking Mr. Ma Ji as an example, "Looking for An Uncle", "The New Peach Blossom Origin", "Mountaineering Hero Praise", "Ode to Friendship" and other cross-talk with the characteristics of the times, which are not widely circulated, and from the perspective of artistic ideological stage presentation, it is not possible to talk about how elegant.
For example, the Beijing Rhyme Drum and the Suzhou Pingtan have all sung the poetry of great people, and the literature and artistry of the eight model plays are also unique, but cross-talk is limited by the art form, and it is impossible to say every word and sentence like poetry and song.
Therefore, in Mr. Ma's view, cross-talk itself is a popular art, and it has never had anything to do with elegance.
Peking opera can be sunny and white, symphony can be high and low, but you can't ask the four kings of Teresa Teng to open their mouths and shut up is an aria, nor can you ask Jay Chou to take the guitar and sing poetry...
Ma Yu
Therefore, from the perspective of art categories and artistic bloodlines, cross-talk is just popular culture, street culture, and common people's culture, putting aside artistic attributes, blindly talking about what is elegant and vulgar, purely ripping off calves.
Listening to your cross-talk is more tiring than working in the iron field, and you still ask me for money? Aren't you poor and crazy? You don't want money? You don't want money, and I won't look for that foreign guilt!
But this simple truth, "artists" do not seem to understand very well, they are afraid that they will only say "why not eat meat", there was an old saying before:
"The tea soup of Guanglu Temple, the swords and guns of the Arsenal, the articles of the Hanlin Temple..."
Personally, it seems that there is another meaning:
"The pen and ink of the Book Association, the desk of the Writers Association, the face of the Zuo Association, the poetry of the Qu Association..."
That year
The mention of Guo Degang on the Internet is nothing more than the set of three customs, and the brainless sunspots are eager to climb out of the end of the network line one by one, beat their chests, and speak righteously!
Kuroko is nothing more than taking "ethical" and "and fart" to find fault. But the traditional small section of Ma Pai's "Touch Shabu" plays the "pee fart" terrier.
At that time, the third grandfather and old ancestor also joked about the horse widow, but the art of the Horse School has a long history, can you say that the horse school cross-talk art is vulgar?
Jiang Kun is also old
At that time, Mr. Chang Lian'an Qiming Tea House was known as a civilized cross-talk, and there was also a content of ethics in the stage performance. Teacher Jiang has also performed programs.
The same is true of Guo Degang's art, when he once laughed on the stage, deyun society excavated and sorted out the traditional small sections, cross talk, stand-up, Taiping lyrics, and more than 600 small plays (of course, this sentence also attracted a scolding).
Here is a simple to do an inaccurate statistics, on a website, Lao Guo's audio is a lot, to the album "Deyun Shexiang Complete Collection" for example, there are a total of 720 sounds under this album;
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For example, "Guo Degang's 21 Years of Cross-Talk Selection", there are 148 voices under this album;
The two albums alone have 868 sounds, and there are also 434 works in half, considering the repeated cross-talk segments. Each work is calculated according to 30 minutes, and there are more than 200 hours.
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Look at the love of "Pit King Driving", the first season of 58 issues, according to the four seasons, a season of 50 issues, a total of 200 issues, each period of time according to 1 hour, there are more than 200 hours.
The above is only the most rough way to calculate, after all, I am an audience, not an archaeologist, but also to do a mathematical model analysis.
According to the above rough data, Guo Degang's works are listened to for an hour a day, and there is still wealth in a year, and such content output is unprecedented.
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Mr. Guo's early years on the radio, small theater some stand-up, cross-talk drama, Peking Opera is not counted.
Relatively well-known "Ji Gong Biography", "Ugly Lady" is not among them, and there are some passages that the disciples often say but mr. almost does not touch, such as "Anti-Seven Mouths", "Turning Over four generations" and so on.
Old Guo
Mr. Ma believes that Guo Degang is already the top position in the content output of cross-talk circles. The most prolific in the book critic circle, he personally admires Mr. Shan Tianfang, although there are a lot of stylized things in Shan Lao.
According to the above inaccurate data, such a volume of works, such a content output, is it all "ethical" and "and"?
Or is it because Guo Degang said too much, or did those artists who would mix salaries say too little in their lifetime?
Teacher Jiang famous quote
Guo Degang's personality has never caused any scandals that are not visible; Guo Degang's art, singing and playing are all accumulated over the years;
Guo Degang's kindness, all kinds of good deeds on the Internet a search.
Rao is so, but there is always no shortage of people who close their eyes and are blind, deaf, black and white, and deer as horses.
So many of Guo Degang's advantages, completely missed, stared at a sentence and a half of ethics and made a big fuss.
As the saying goes: see the light is bright, see the dark is dark.
Mr. Ma finally said that people who stare at ethical and pee every day have no good in their hearts.
Mr. Ma language