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Cupy: My music has always served experienced listeners

author:Southern Metropolis Daily

"I think a musician in the contemporary era to constantly tear off their own labels, we should subvert what we have not done, so that its presentation is more and more inclusive", this is Chubby's musical attitude, he himself is very clear, the outside world speaks of him, usually use "ethereal", "psychedelic", "minimalist" labels, or "high cold", "alienated", "mysterious" and other words, but Chubby said that these are not produced by themselves.

Cupy: My music has always served experienced listeners

The agile "Zhengzheng", to the "Big Release" that won the industry award, to the "Middle Departure" that highlighted the vocals, Qiu Bi has his own way of maintaining freshness, using his own state to iterate and update, "Qiu Bi is synonymous with the ultimate creativity", this is his self-determination, he has a set of self-consistent logical system, not silent, entering his system can still be the head of the Tao.

On May 18, Cupy's latest tour "Intoxicated." Narcissus is about to arrive at Guangzhou's "Central Station", which will be a different cross-border comprehensive presentation, rich and three-dimensional, visual gorgeous, beautiful music, even the smell is chic, in an interview with the tune, Cupy said: "Costumes, lighting are part of the music, you have to walk like your music, you have to breathe like your music, you have to look like your music." ”

Written by: Old Ding

The sexiness of power

"Big Release" is The First Album Launched by Chubby after joining the Rolling Stone Electric Sound, which won many professional awards, And Cupy frankly said: "Because "Big Release" is very gorgeous, resulting in a bunch of music critics and listeners who feel that I can't make an album beyond this concept and this theme, and I feel that we can't grasp a more accurate theme than this." ”

The new album "Middle Departure", released at the end of last year, still maintains the high standard of Chubby's usual, the sound is more popular and pleasant, and the concept of the album is still avant-garde. Cupy said that "The Great Release" is about time, and the theme of "Middle Departure" is power.

Cupy: My music has always served experienced listeners

"Neutral" itself is also a game concept, in a 5v5 game, the person who can affect the final victory or defeat is the god teammate who can kill ten times in a row. In Cupy's view, the game's dominance may not be the same.

If one of their teammates is going to leave the game, the remaining four people will inevitably ask this person to accompany them to finish the game, and this "middle-leaver" is the dominant point of power. Therefore, "Middle Departure" is actually talking about the theme of supreme power, "the operation of power is sometimes dangerous, coercive, and it is a sexier theme than "Big Release", and in today's era when everyone is fighting for power, then we will talk about power."

Cupy said that in the "Middle Departure" album, everyone in every song is about power, whether it is "Night Hall" or "Si Yu", is a very domineering character, "that kind of strength is not that I have three Rolls-Royces, or I have three mansions, that strength is that I don't have to move in the night hall, but he is the hegemonic point." 」

Cupy: My music has always served experienced listeners

In order to really understand "Middle Departure", Qiu Bi said that it takes a certain amount of experience to feel that "Middle Departure" is really a very on-time word, "Recently many people have launched game-related concept albums, such as Chen Grain has "Play", Lin Yilian has "0", in fact, these are a synonym for the digital world, but they are talking about 'in', then I think Qiu Bi is 'out' to resist this 'in', 1:100 this practice, we believe this is the highest realm, the highest way to play a kind of creativity. ”

Stereoscopic sound field

If you listen carefully to "Middle Separation", you can enjoy the stereoscopic sound of sound flowing in the skull. Ring arrangements have always been a good play for Chubby, and now many people use mobile devices to listen to music, so When Chubby first made music, he tended to serve people who listened to songs with headphones.

"We think that more than half of the people who listen to our music use Apple mobile phones, then the existing headphones he has at hand may be Apple's little white, so when we do the Sound check at the end of the album, with this as the highest standard to design, you will have a very fun, very dazzling experience, get the most Top listening." 」

Cupy: My music has always served experienced listeners

On the album, Cupy invites italian electronic poet Alfa Hydri to write the preface to "Middle Departure", which is the result of the mutual appreciation of the two people and their communication on the Internet. Cupy said that he rarely worked with strangers because the cost of communication was too high, but knowing that Alfa Hydri was the one who listened to Björk, the other party felt that he and Bjork had something about the connet, and "Middle Departure" needed a domineering opening, and Alfa Hydri was very suitable.

Although there are technological innovations and are very particular about sound effects and sound field, Chubby still tends to say that he is doing minimalist electronic music, "minimalism is that there is an angular space, you just put yourself in a space called Cupy, you can run freely in it, play freely." 」

Jobby said that the title of "partial front musician" is not refreshing, challenging and attractive to himself, "we prefer to get the mainstream music and underground music two circles of recognition and simultaneous non-recognition", Chubby said that a while ago there were watching "Instant Electric Sound", there are some very strange bands, mainstream people can not get what they are doing, this is the state of communication failure.

Cupy: My music has always served experienced listeners

"I think that in terms of Cupy, it should not be to establish their own brand by refusal, we should gradually enrich our own world by picking and inclusiveness, because once you have this attitude of so-called you are you, I am mine, itself has nothing to do with the core spirit of this music circle, as far as Bjork is concerned, she is still looking for universal value, universal beauty to implement in her music, so that independent and mainstream can find a universal entry point, I think tolerance is important, Excluding dissidents is very outdated, and this is my way of looking at how to make an album is more challenging and more difficult."

Qiu Bi said that in a universal value, can not be a state of flattery on both sides, it should be that you create your high degree of recognition in such a universal environment, as soon as you hear your hook, you know that this is your musical style, "for example, Sigur Ros, Radiohead and even Coldplay, they are gradually establishing their own music grammar, and this grammar can communicate with the secondary audience at the same time. It's a success for me."

The fusion of ways

Before going to the South by Southwest Music Festival in the United States, Cupy also filmed several MVs of "Middle Departure" in New York, he said that he was thinking about the communication between the East and the West in his own way and angle, although the electronic music he did was Western, but the learning process was very Eastern, whether it was studying drama in Japan, or in Taiwan's Excellent Divine Drum, how to effectively integrate, Cupby said, "We will not be like Wu Yifan, just go to the West to tell everyone that he is a Westerner; we will not be like Zhang Yixing, Going to the West and telling everyone that he was going to be an Oriental, we wanted to find a way to integrate. ”

Chubby said that now should not be this era of limited subjects, it should be a fusion, hybrid state, "so what we give is very simple, CI, style, smell, just like this, we rarely describe it to the outside world, Chubby is an electronic sound, but we will win awards for electronic music, but it is not the whole picture of us."

Cupy: My music has always served experienced listeners

Because of his own books and because his mother is a writer, Chubby is very particular about the expression of words. Although the divine comedy of "Learn to Cat Call" is popular all over the Internet, Cupy feels that for a literature lover, it is difficult to get resonance from it, and it is impossible to find a sense of sexiness. Cupy said that his music has always served experienced listeners, so he also hopes that experienced listeners can get the good lyrics they deserve, "the lyrics must pass some very obscure literary standards, such as when we present the lyrics of "Si Yu" or even "Casual" to an author, we will feel very ashamed." 」 But in his view, the most important thing is the accuracy and literary nature of the lyrics - to be able to communicate with literary lovers of depth.

In past performances, Cupy was reticent, and in addition to singing, he only opened his mouth to say the word "thank you" to the audience. On this tour, agent Ye Yunfu proposed to add Talking links on the spot, and Qiu Bi rarely opened a dialogue with the audience on the stage, he said that he did not preset the content of the conversation in advance, but presented it in a natural way, and more often handed the microphone to the audience under the stage, but hoped that the dialogue was meaningful.

In the eyes of the audience, such a Cupy shows the ease of "fairy under the mortal", and Chubby looks at this transformation from another dimension, he does not think that this is grounded, nor is it to be more intimate with the people, he thinks that this is from an immature concert, into a concert that meets industry standards, "I am not the kind of person who will be nervous when I speak, what I do not want is that I can't respond, because I am not the kind of person who will be a good person, we will meet the audience to ask you whether your musical inspiration comes from the original self, superordination or true self. The other person may like Cupy very much, but such a question will make me very vacuum."

In the 2019 Cupy Tour, which set the tone of "intoxication", Cupy cooperated with YSL to use fragrance to broaden the boundaries of audiences' experience in the music scene, which was also the first concert in mainland China to smell the fragrance. Cupy chose his favorite smell of black opium to sprinkle on the scene, and he laughed and said, "The central station site is so big, it may take two bottles to spray." Cupy said the smell is related to memory, and maybe one day the audience passed by the YSL store, smelled the same fragrance, and remembered the performance.

"We want to communicate with the subconscious of the audience, music is also communicating with the subconscious, we use CI, with lyrics, with color, with music to slowly hide the core spirit of Cupy in it, you feel at first glance, it is very cool and cool, but it has been buried in your subconscious, you want to listen, you want to dig more, the fragrance is the same reason." 」

Cupy: My music has always served experienced listeners

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