This article is from a recent student forum user: Reid7c
Thank you all for sharing your valuable experience for the forum
Bless every one of you who can receive the offer of your choice
Autumn moves are nearing the end, looking back at the experience of the past two years, there are still quite a lot of feelings. From the first internship to the final choice of Huawei Finance in the face of three major manufacturers, maintaining the record of 0 failures in interviews, at each critical point in time, I was glad to have made a decision to be true to my ideas.
I voted once in the forum, and I really appreciate everyone's ideas and suggestions, and I think about it a lot. From the first internship to the present, I have also met many small partners in the forum, and some have become very good friends.
This time, I sorted out some of the feelings of the master's stage, gave back to the forum, and hoped that everyone's life and work would go smoothly and smoothly.
Personal background: 211 books, 985 masters, MPAcc major
Internship experience: Accenture, Deloitte, Huawei Finance
Certificate of Skills: CPA Professional Pass, CET6 550, CET4 622
Qiu Zhao received offers: Huawei Finance, Tencent Finance, Procter & Gamble FA, OPPO Finance, deloitte audit
Ultimate destination: Huawei Finance
The table of contents of this article is as follows:
First, the development path
Second, why choose Dachang Finance instead of Party B (consulting, auditing)
3. Why choose Huawei Finance?
4. CPA Examination Recommendations
5. 0 Failed interview experience is attached
6. Job Search Q&A
In September 2018, I asked about the graduation destination of some seniors and made a schedule, mainly including the internship experience I need to save for the next two years, the necessary ranking grades and the certificates I have obtained.
In October, I was inspired to read Jin Xinsong's Weibo and wrote a list of companies I wanted to join in the future, at that time I was not sure of my favorite direction, and only wrote it with the good of "secular meaning", which included Accenture, the Big Four, Huawei, Tencent, Ali, and Procter & Gamble.
Looking back at this list now, except that Ali did not have an interview, everyone else had an internship or autumn offer.
I went to Accenture for 5 months as an intern in December 2018, which was the starting point of my resume, when it was a complete blank slate, and I met a particularly interesting boss who helped me build a logical framework.
Throughout the internship, the boss would ask me what I thought of the project and inform me of the role of the matter in the whole project every time I assigned it, forcing me to constantly think about where my work came from, who was responsible for it, and what business processes would be supported in the future. During my internship, I also clearly showed a preference for financial projects, was good at drawing tables and analyzing data, and had weak ability to design pages (wryly). Originally planned to intern at AC for 8-9 months, but because the Financial Elite Challenge entered the regional competition, it was impossible to coordinate the time and gave up.
Maybe there is really a relationship with Huawei, at the end of March 2019, I inadvertently pulled up a team to participate in the ninth Huawei Finance Elite Challenge, which was indeed my first contact with corporate finance, the first time I participated in the business competition, the first time I had enthusiasm for a company, the first time I showed some talents, and the dream of the right time directly laid the foundation for me to finally choose Huawei Finance.
The early stage of financial selection was relatively smooth, the intramural champion was an excellent individual, and the regional champion was an excellent individual, but the finals was not coordinated because the time was not well coordinated, and the ranking was not high.
This autumn recruitment, the interviewer asked me to give an example of a more difficult moment in life, I said this, I remember the interviewer laughing and saying "this doesn't seem to be convincing, just didn't get the championship", not so, the biggest impact of this matter on me is to let me reflect on whether I can complete the task in a high-intensity, high-pressure work environment, whether I can lead the team to victory, whether I have leadership.
Fortunately, the opportunity to prove my leadership soon came, and Huawei Finance HR contacted me and hoped that I would be the chairman of the Huawei Finance Club in our school. At that time, I thought about it for a long time, did not do student work, did not lead the team for a long time, and it was good to try.
Because the club is expected to occupy more time, in order to ensure that it does not affect the autumn recruitment, I have made 2 plans for myself, one is that I must take the CPA that year, and the other is to have 2 guaranteed internships - one is the winter vacation internship of 19 years, and the other is a summer internship of 20 years, so that my autumn recruitment can focus on better enterprises, will not be particularly passive, and finally it is implemented in this way. Before the winter vacation, I got offers from Deloitte Audit and Deloitte Consulting, and because the former had a definite opportunity to turn positive, I chose Deloitte Audit, which is also a control over life planning.
After completing some of the club's work during the 20-year epidemic, I got Tencent and Meituan's early approval of summer offers in April, when I was going to go to Tencent, but when I heard that Huawei would open summer internships in June, I waited and waited, and then participated in the interview, made the first key choice in 2020, and went to Huawei for internship. During the internship in July and August, he completed Deloitte's early par and got the first guarantee offer. In Huawei, he made a regular defense and won a second guarantee offer.
Entering the autumn move, I refused Tencent once in the summer, but the big factory was still very responsible to fish me up again and face the whole process, which is really very grateful to Tencent's hr, which shows that the big factory is very inclusive, and finally I got Tencent's autumn offer, and also got the financial line offer of Procter & Gamble and oppo.
This experience is generally for everyone's reference, early planning, it will be better to have a stronger control over your life, but the control is mainly reflected in your view of opportunities. Each opportunity is only once, this time is this time, and the next time is completely different, some opportunities are destined to make you fail, some opportunities seem to be difficult to survive, the clear practice is to keep gambling in the right direction, the time that belongs to you will eventually come.
Second, why don't I go to Party B, mainly focusing on big factory finance?
Compared with the interview, the most troubling thing for me from September to October is the choice of offer, first comparing the big factory finance and the B industry.
Party B is generally divided into two categories - auditing and consulting, are training fresh graduates' logical ability, the project system landing, the project team personnel flow speed is very fast, interpersonal communication is relatively simple, the structure is relatively flat, the initial income level is relatively low, but after 3-5 years of job hopping choice opportunities become more, I often joke that it is more like convertible bonds, I can have another opportunity to choose when job hopping.
So why did I choose to focus on big factory finance in the autumn recruitment?
First, the height of Party B's choice has decreased after 3-5 years, and Party A's financial job-hopping ability has become stronger year by year. This point is very good to explain, look at the direction of the more excellent talents to know the reason, where the talent is dense, where the ability to jump jobs in the future will be stronger;
Second, very clear about their own direction, the financial development of the factory is the goal of career development, there is no need to curve to save the country, and the probability of Party B jumping out and entering the factory is constantly compressing, it is likely that it will not be able to save the country at all;
Third, the quality of Party B's project is declining, more like from 60 points to 80 points, pay attention to risk avoidance, 100w money to avoid the risk of 100w, and Party A's finance gradually evolved into internal consulting, from 80 points to 95 points, endless value creation (of course, linked to the bonus package), more interesting and more fulfilling.
Fourth, I want to know the nature of business. This sounds very false, but in fact, when I was doing financial picking, I found myself with this impulse, it turned out that when I stood with the business, I could really solve the problem for them, and really understand the essence of business through data. For example, today we sell base stations to company A, if this is a loss contract, the money may not be recovered, from the perspective of consulting to avoid risks, we may not do it, after all, the consultation phase of a period of money, who can give you 5-10 years of long-term risks. But when I am the company's finance, lead to cash principles, analyze customer pain points, stand in the customer's point of view to think about how to solve the difficulties, rather than just care about their own bonuses and performance this quarter, maybe this period is a loss, but to alleviate the customer's financial difficulties, the future we can achieve a win-win situation.
I don't want to make the so-called "right" business decisions that most people think are" right, often worldly correct, and ignore the fact that all decisions have a price, so is there a price to choose a big factory?
Yes, but I can afford it.
3. Why did I choose Huawei Finance?
I have launched a vote on the Internet before, Huawei Finance vs Tencent Finance VS Procter & Gamble FA, the results of each website are very close, Tencent Finance accounts for 50%, Huawei and Procter & Gamble 25% each, dumbfounded.
I consulted some students who made choices, and everyone has a very similar concept: Procter & Gamble is very Balanced, good rotation system and humanized care; Tencent Finance's overtime situation is not particularly much, although it is not professional, but the Internet is always dripping God; Huawei Finance's overtime intensity is large, and the professionalism is strong;
Everyone says that basically rely on simple intuition hahahahaha, and choosing what suits you is the most courageous.
Why Huawei?
First, there is a lot of money. Quoting a classmate, if the big factory talks about feelings and does not talk about money, it is playing a hooligan. You can see the report on the offershow, but the salary is only the median and does not reflect the whole picture. Compared with the industry, Huawei's salary given to me is 1.5 times that of the other company, which is indeed very competitive.
Listening to the big guy, Huawei Finance gave the school recruitment SP offer this year up to 40w+. In terms of year-end awards, Huawei will give a 2-month guarantee year-end bonus (consulting with seniors, generally can be given more than 4 months), this base will be a more important source of income for new employees in three years. Since Huawei will allocate shares to employees with excellent performance, in the long run, the income from stock dividends will account for half of the revenue, and the income after the rights issue will also rise by a large margin.
Of course, another important consideration in choosing Huawei is to send abroad. If new employees are sent to hardship areas when they are hired, it is not difficult for the annual salary to exceed 80w to 100w (base +bonus + home allowance + hardship allowance, etc.), which can be completely benchmarked against the top international investment banks. In addition, the small environment of expatriates is very good, and the accommodation is solved, so the base in the salary structure is just the entry. The above data can also be cross-compared from other answers of Zhihu.
Second, from April 2019 to the present, I have a very in-depth understanding of the organizational structure and promotion path of Huawei Finance, and I am relatively accustomed to the corporate culture. From what I know, as long as there is ability and ability, the company will pour more resources.
I personally do not like the system of management trainees, as far as I know, most of the management training projects will have an embarrassing period at the beginning, maybe the first two years after the rotation of 4 positions can only understand the skin, each department will not treat you as their own, it is difficult to have decision-making power.
We should have confidence in the big factory HR, they can have the ability to put you in the right position to exercise you, if this confidence is not there, or the organization is not even sure how to use people, then is this place really suitable for long-term development?
Third, Huawei has given me a lot of opportunities and choices, and the career fault tolerance rate will be greater.
Even if I don't feel like my current position and career group doing it, I can have the opportunity to change to another direction.
At the signing stage, HR and I communicated the preferences of the position, as long as you put forward reasonable needs, the basics that can be coordinated will help you coordinate. After joining, Huawei has a transfer system (this point is also said by many people who know that the answers are also said), the performance is OK, the interview situation is OK, the other party's position wants you, and the original position must not stop you for any reason, which is very cool, much more useful than management trainees.
Of course, the premise is that there are enough positions to choose from in the financial field, and when interviewing oppo, the interviewer also said that they did not have the position I wanted to give me, which is equivalent to Huawei Finance before the IFS reform, so my appeal they can't give, and it is recommended that I grow with the whole system.
Finally, Huawei attaches more importance to finance than any enterprise, as long as the financial risk of any project is not controlled, it is impossible for finance and economics not to sign, and the financial decision-making power is very large, so the more responsibilities we bear, the higher the refinement of our technology. During my internship, I once slapped the table with the business, had heated discussions with Mentor, and was in charge of an important project... This story is a bit long, and you can talk about it again next time you have a chance.
Of course, as I said to Tencent HR and P&G's predecessors, on a certain day in my life, it may be a day of expatriate assignment, it may be an early morning after some overnight, I may regret making this decision. There are many choices that will eventually happen only one, and any choice will have its costs, so we will always fantasize that the other choice is our golden age.
So for me today, at this moment, to have insight into my heart, to be faithful to my ideals, and then to enjoy the empowerment of water storage itself, continuous improvement is an eternal and unchangeable truth, and to gamble in the right direction until it is proved that this choice is correct.
Do you really need to examine?
Be wary of the anxiety of proof
Let's start with the most basic question – why do you examine?
(1) Will you really be engaged in related work in the future?
(2) Can the current dilemma be solved by CPA?
Then consider the possible costs of the examination:
(1) Do not have enough time to intern and understand other industries;
(2) The ranking has declined, and the class has not listened carefully to brush the questions;
(3) The September sprint did not deliver the autumn move in time, and regretted missing the big factory;
There are now many educational institutions that sell anxiety, so that everyone goes to the examination, and the judiciary and CPA candidates suffer from it. I personally don't like this argument very much, except for the audit professional certificate is a must, other majors can have no CPA, and it will not be a factor in determining whether you pass the interview or not.
If you ask the students who have asked the autumn recruitment, they will find that those who pass the CPA will say that it is useless, and those who have not passed will say that this certificate is very important, why?
Compared with the ability to communicate, communicate, etc., CPA and academic qualifications will be more intuitive in the resume, so many students who have not passed the interview will attribute the reason to certificates and academic qualifications, which is actually very, very superficial, and it is also very unfavorable to progress.
CPA must not be a badass, at most it can add to your icing on the cake, and even when you can't answer your professional knowledge, it will become a negative stereotype that you are a nerd.
So why did I investigate? I was very sure that I would enter the company in the future, and I was particularly interested in the standards at that time, and I hated that my resume had shortcomings, so I went to the test.
If you think well, this certificate is worth your time and energy to prepare, you can refer to these tips, compared to brushing the online course, after listening to the class review and summary is the most important.
Fifth, behind the failure of interview 0
I watched DoctorX before and set a small goal - the interview will never fail.
My interviews never fail because I firmly believe that as long as there is an HC, even if there is only one, it will definitely belong to me.
Throughout the autumn recruitment process, I saw that many people said that they were interviewed by the KPI, and I did not agree with this point of view, no one is the interviewer's KPI. Interview is a two-way street, when the company chooses you, you also have to choose the company, if you think so at the beginning, it is easy to become a self-moved performing personality, but also to find yourself an infinite number of external excuses, honesty with yourself is the source of perseverance.
Tencent I have met twice, each time is five rounds, group, business, manager, HR and case, basically covered the structured, professional and situational questions.
Among them, if you comb through your own character biography with procter & Gamble eight questions, it is absolutely impossible to hang up on this link of any company, and everything you do at each time has a reasonable motivation and positive impact. At that time, I wrote a short biography of nearly 30,000 words, constantly polished, and continued to train throughout the interview session, and quickly reviewed at the end of each interview to modify the content of the small biography.
The professional side is specifically referred to Huawei's extremely professional interview, there is a certificate that can hardly solve any problem, the main thing is to have an in-depth understanding of the three criteria of IFRS9, 15, and 16, and must combine the case, form their own ideas, and find a way to output during the interview process. Thanks to Huawei, because I have prepared for Huawei's interview, other professional questions are basically sent to the points.
The situational questions are the best part of my face P&G, probably because there are more consulting cases, and the way the boss trained me at that time was to deconstruct the big problems into small problems, crazy assumptions that I was not afraid of challenge, and basically be able to wrap all the ideas. If you want to understand, in fact, I have written a post in the BBS column of Procter & Gamble, you can take a look.
Of course, before you meet a particularly important enterprise, you can train yourself before the general enterprise interview, or find friends to train yourself, so that you will not be particularly nervous, nor will you be desperate.
Sixth, the clichéd fragments of thoughts
After the end of the Huawei financial internship, HR sent an email to each of our interns, hoping that we would have a feedback on the internship project, and we had to complain about it, Huawei is too much to like to communicate, and the internship for two months a week a meal really can't be carried. Huawei Finance asked us to fill out the most satisfactory link (or the most favorite/most attractive link) during the whole internship period, and what I wrote about was the work itself. So when I finally made the decision, I still returned to the work itself.
The most asked questions about my decision are these:
Q1: Did you make Huawei your life goal from the beginning?
A1: Really not, I just want to get stronger, including but not limited to professional technology, mentality, leadership, communication skills, etc., but I and Huawei do have a bit of a fate, unlike me and Goose really work hard and have no fate, missed 2 times...
Q2: Have you ever considered the life of balancing?
A2: I really thought about it, but in the end I wanted to grow fast, and it was definitely a lot of sacrifice to grow fast. I watched DoctorX before, and the protagonist said "don't do anything that doesn't require a doctor's license", which is very dragging, but she has nothing to say professionally. I hope that I can also be professional and can do things that others can't do in the most difficult positions.
Q3: Do you have feelings for Huawei?
A3: If there is a point in time for feelings, it is really twice. I was full of respect for Mr. Ren, and I watched his face-to-face interview in January 2019, with a profound view and a broad heart, and I also turned the ticket circle at that time. Before the defense of the financial pick school competition, I saw a propaganda of Huawei Finance, which had a sentence that said "we are waiting for you in Huawei B1", I don't know why, I think I can definitely enter the finals, I will definitely go to B1 to see. Really standing in front of B1 is quite emotional, if this moment is considered a sentiment, hahahahaha.
However, I have always thought that I am cautious in my decision-making, not out of emotion. I have considered all the risk points raised by my parents, male tickets and classmates, to put it bluntly, I just want to hone my skills, I want to touch the ceiling of finance, this process is certainly not smooth, I am ready.
Q4: Have you ever wondered how long you will be doing at Huawei?
A4: I thought about it, but it didn't work. I have now also made a 3-5 year short-term plan and an 8-10 year long-term plan for myself, although I have control over life, but I can't have the illusion of control, it is impossible for everything to develop according to what I want, and I can only guarantee the most basic problems. I will explore whether Huawei is suitable for me, whether I can find the answer in Huawei, find it and continue to do it, if you can't find it, it is normal, don't give yourself any restraints. True freedom is the option to give up at any time, of course, provided that you become the greatest capital.
Q5: Advice for students?
A5: I think autumn tricks are just a very small mound in life, and don't give too much meaning to the past. If life is seen as a return, the final foothold of ups and downs is a combination of ability and ambition. Therefore, if you don't find a satisfactory job, go to the social recruitment requirements of the place you want to go, and exercise yourself in the next 5 years; on the contrary, you must also keep a clear head, keep improving, and work hard to support what you have. Finally, let's quote from a novel - a life of consistent effort and no slackness. The small accumulation of each day determines the final result, and this is the answer. I hope that when there are problems in life, we can all be his opponents.
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