The feud between Ma Ji and Hou Baolin, especially whether Ma Ji has beaten Hou Baolin, has always been one of the most interesting topics in the cross-talk industry. However, there are more and more versions of the rumor, including the Guo Degang version, the Ma Dong version and the Wang Yang version.
Guo Degang's account is that he and his master Hou Yaowen had asked for verification in person, but Hou Yaowen denied it. On the one hand, although Hou Yaowen is Hou Baolin's son, he will not tell his son everything, especially those things that are not very honorable; on the other hand, even if Hou Yaowen knows something, he will not tell Guo Degang without reservation, after all, his perspective of considering the problem is different from ordinary people, and the answer he told Guo Degang may not be the truth, but it must be an answer that is beneficial to everyone.
Guo Degang once shared the stage with Ma Dong in the two programs of "Serving People with Virtue" and "Strange Story", and both talked about this topic, and the meaning expressed by the two is the same. Ma Dong's version is not explained: without too much explanation, it is two words "no". Like Guo Degang's statement, there is no factual basis and the credibility is too low.
Wang Yang provided another statement when he was live on the short video platform some time ago, saying that he mentioned this matter when he was drinking with the old man at the home of Gan Dad Yu Shiyou, and the old man was gritting his teeth and beating his chest in resentment, and the meaning of the words was already very obvious.
Wang Yang also mentioned that when Hou Baolin was hospitalized in his later years, he once took care of him in front of the hospital bed and specifically asked about this matter, and Mr. Hou Baolin did not say it directly, but said: "Man, the chest is to be supported by tempering!" The answer is self-explanatory.
In addition, there are rumors that other people have also asked Hou Baolin about this question, and Mr. Hou did not answer positively, saying, "Don't ask this, some of the apprentices in the old society beat the master." Judging from the logical relationship of this sentence, the answer is obviously hit.
It is difficult to say exactly which person is telling the truth; however, today I also found a new source, which is a video of Ma Ji's interview with Lu Yuyou before his death, in which he specifically talks about the issue of his feud with Master Hou Baolin.
In an interview, Ma Ji said that after the movement began that year, master Hou Baolin was labeled a "reactionary artistic authority" and himself was also designated a "revisionist." You can only sweep toilets and paint placards in Beijing.
Ma Ji believes that there were bad people who stirred up dissension back and forth at that time, causing a lot of misunderstandings between master and disciple.
At that time, Ma Ji, Tang Jiezhong and Zhao Lianjia formed a "reactionary clique." Zhao Lianjia is a bad element, Tang Jiezhong is a military master, and Ma Ji is a revisionist.
Once, the congress criticized Hou Baolin, saying that he had created "It Is Difficult to Walk at Every Inch" for Chiang Kai-shek and asked him to explain the problem. Mr. Hou lowered his head to the microphone and said, "That show was not written by me, it was written by Ma Ji." Then Ma Ji was dragged to power, one after another, one after another, saying that he was wearing the cloak of a party member to shout for Chiang Kai-shek.
After approving it, let Ma Ji roll down and continue to approve Hou Baolin. Another reactionary work mentioning him is Western Music, where naturalistic techniques are used to promote the art of bourgeois erosion. Hou Baolin also said, "That show was not written by me, it was written by Ma Ji." And so on and on, four times in total...
So did Ma Ji ever beat Hou Baolin? Ma Ji said: "I think without these, there is no life; without these misunderstandings, without scolding, without rumors, there is no way to move forward, anyone is." ”
Although Ma Ji did not answer positively, the meaning expressed between his words was obviously to admit that he had beaten Hou Baolin.
After a decade of unrest, relations between people and people gradually returned to normal, and the same was true of the cross-talk community. In 1984, Ma Ji and others were invited to hong Kong to perform, and Hou Baolin was the artistic consultant for that performance.
In mainland censorship performances before the official performance, Ma Ji's performances were very popular. Ma Ji recalled: "At that time, Mr. Hou said: 'Ma Ji, you come here, after you come to Hong Kong, you can perform my strips.' Saying this was the first time I had given me the green light and was satisfied with me. I said, Mr. Hou, rest assured. ”
These few words of Hou Baolin seem to be plain, but for Ma Ji, it is the master who puts aside his past grievances and re-recognizes his apprentice, so it will be unforgettable for a lifetime.
Before Mr. Hou Baolin died, Ma Ji went to visit; Mr. Hou took his hand and said only one word: "Ma Ji, the improvisation of cross-talk must not be lost, it is the main skill of our cross-talk." ”
In summary, the probability that Ma Ji beat Hou Baolin is more likely to be true, and both Ma Ji's interviewed remarks and Hou Baolin's voice have confirmed the authenticity of this matter. However, the occurrence of any event cannot be separated from the background of the times; in that era, it was not strange that fathers and sons could not kill each other, and husbands and wives looked at each other, let alone between master and disciple? So it's still important to look at all this with a tolerant eye.
As for the descendants of Hou Yaowen, Ma Dong and Guo Degang, why they should vigorously deny the existence of this matter is actually easy to understand; the deceased is the greatest, not to mention the master-level figures, of course, we must create more positive images, after all, the descendants still have to continue to cool under the tree!