Friends who have had internship experience in law firms know that the salaries of trainee lawyers are generally very low (except for some red circle firms, of course). Teaching lawyers naturally have their own set of sayings: trainee lawyers basically do not understand anything, and the most important thing in the profession of being a lawyer is experience, teaching lawyers to say that they are recruiting assistants, in fact, recruiting apprentices, to teach them how to do it by hand, so that confiscating tuition fees is good, how can it be given a high salary.
Therefore, under the impetus of this idea, there are really lawyers who openly recruit intern lawyers and require intern lawyers to pay tuition fees, and the cost is still quite large, 300,000 yuan in two years.
At this price, to be honest, young lawyers who have just obtained a license can earn 300,000 yuan in the first two years, right? Does this still call a trainee lawyer to take such a high tuition fee? It is estimated that few people who want to learn can afford to learn it.
Moreover, this open recruitment is not only this Changsha lawyer He, but also this Yi lawyer, coincidentally the two are still the same law firm.
When these two news first came out, most of the people's reaction was ridicule, thinking that these people wanted money crazy, and even intern lawyers wanted to harvest, hire others to work, don't give money, even if they had to pay tuition, and treat others as fools, right?
In fact, if you think about this problem carefully, you will find that the training lawyer can indeed use two different models: one is the traditional model, that is, to establish an employment relationship with the intern lawyer, let the intern lawyer help him do things, and give a certain salary; the other model, nominally recruiting intern lawyers as assistants, but not to establish labor relations, but to train intern lawyers, in this case, the teaching lawyers are charged training fees, that is, many people complain, intern lawyers go to the law firm to intern, not only no salary , but also pay a fee.
However, from the perspective of the traditional internship mode, the intern lawyer is indeed working for the boss, although many things the intern lawyer can not do alone, such as separate court, separate meeting, etc., but some daily work, such as writing documents, copying and printing, daily finishing, running errands some things can still be done, can save a lot of time for the lawyer to teach in tedious things.
But precisely because most of the trainee lawyers share some trivial work, many intern lawyers will complain that they can't learn anything core, their "master" is unwilling to impart experience, and they have to explore everything by themselves, feeling that they are a miscellaneous person.
Therefore, in this tradition seems to be the "master with the apprentice" model, because the "master" will see the "apprentice" as doing miscellaneous work for himself, he also pays a part of the remuneration, as long as the apprentice can do some marginal things well, save his own time, but will not pass on his actual combat experience to the "apprentice".
And the "apprentice" will feel that he takes such a meager salary, does some trivial things all day long, and also has to face the various bad emotions of the "master", swallowing his anger, but he wants to learn more practical experience, successfully get a lawyer's certificate, and he can face the problem alone in the future, otherwise he will go directly to the company to do business with a much higher salary.
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Therefore, the "master" will not sincerely teach the "apprentice", and the "apprentice" will not be loyal to help the "master", each with a ghost fetus, resulting in this "master-apprentice" relationship is often very tense. More precisely, in fact, it is not a mentor-apprentice relationship in the traditional sense, but this line is indeed very special, without learning practical experience, no matter how solid the theory is, it is not good to do the work of lawyers. Unlike ordinary company employees who enter the company, they can basically get started when they enter, even if they need training, it is only ten days and half a month.
The lawyer's profession involves the vital interests of each party and is of great significance. If you have no practical experience and cannot pass the assessment, you will not be able to obtain a lawyer's certificate, and even if you are fortunate enough to get a certificate, you will not be able to face litigation practice.
Therefore, many trainee lawyers really rely on luck, meet a lawyer who is willing to share his experience, through his own efforts, he can indeed learn a lot of things; if he encounters the kind of lawyer who only treats himself as a miscellaneous, it is also very unlucky to prevent himself from teaching lawyers like thieves.
Therefore, some lawyers also see this, and many trainee lawyers do not complain that the traditional "master with apprentice" model cannot learn things? Well, if you want to learn practical experience, learn dry goods, and don't want to do chores all the time, then pay tuition, turn your internship into training, and turn labor relations into teacher-student relations.
Of course, the lawyer who dares to recruit in this way must have a certain reputation, which is equivalent to his own brand, and it is worth it to make others believe that it is worth paying so much tuition, and he can learn practical experience from him. Therefore, it may be obvious to recruit assistants and sign labor contracts, in order to meet the needs of internship assessment, but behind the scenes, it should be signed a training agreement, stipulating the content, method and expected effect of training. To be stricter, there should also be a liability for breach of contract.
It should be strictly distinguished from the traditional labor relationship, people have paid so much tuition, surely they can't let others be like traditional trainee lawyers, only help themselves to do things, right?
There are some lawyers who deliberately confuse the concept of two different relationships, and their reason is that even if the trainee lawyer is doing errands, he is also training, and he can learn experience.
Indeed, there is some truth to this statement. But since you buy out other people's time to save your own time, so that you can free up more time to do more important and profitable things, you always have to compensate for other people's time, right? Sending others to help themselves save their own time and spending their own time training others are two different concepts, right?
One of the most obvious distinctions is that if you exchange other people's time for your own time, the lawyer should pay for other people's time; if others pay for the time of teaching lawyers, then the lawyers must take out their own time to teach the practical experience of trainee lawyers to achieve the purpose of real training.
Always can not be both of the benefits are occupied by the teaching lawyer, both want to charge other people's tuition, but also want to take other people's time for their own time, deliberately mixed with two different internship models, such a teaching lawyer, will definitely be blamed by the public.
In fact, some experienced lawyers, changing the traditional internship model, using the method of charging fees, so that intern lawyers who need and afford to really learn practical experience faster and more efficiently, is not a good internship model.
The reason why lawyers have to go through more than a year of arduous internship and pass the internship assessment is so that the intern lawyers can learn some practical experience, be able to handle the case independently after obtaining the lawyer's certificate, and truly help the parties. Many lawyers will have the anxiety of being afraid that they will not be able to do the work of lawyers alone, and in reality, there are indeed many trainee lawyers who have a disagreement with the lawyers who teach them, believing that they cannot learn the real experience, resulting in their own transfer to the office, several twists and turns, or the assessment cannot pass, and the internship period is extended.
In the face of these situations, there will always be some people who hope that the lawyers with teaching can really help themselves, not only learn experience, but also successfully pass the examination. Some of the teaching lawyers do have the ability to marketize the internship model, and it is not impossible to buy a house and take what the seller needs. Just like many lawyers will sell their experience as courseware, after all, in the era of knowledge payment, these phenomena are normal.