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Lu Peng is a well-known "ghost professional" and has appeared in more than 30 film and television masterpieces, including "Bright Sword", "Operation Sharp Arrow", "Blood in the Mountains and Forests", "On the Songhua River", "Arrow on the String", "Saber", "Decisive Battle Swallow Gate", "Pistol Team" and so on. Together with Wang Kan, Ma Weijun and Yang Qingwen, he is known as the "Four Devil Professional Households".
Not only that, Lu Peng is not only a famous actor, but also a typical "scholar", with a master's degree in Nortel acting and a doctorate from Beijing Normal University. In 2008, when he was at the peak of his career, he chose to join the Shanghai Film Academy of Shanghai University as a faculty member. This career change transformed him from being a teacher to an actor and then back to education, and all his efforts were for his family.
In September 2005, a war drama called "Bright Sword" was broadcast in prime time on CCTV General Channel, with an average rating of 1.123%. This drama is starring Li Youbin, He Zhengjun, Tong Lei, Zhang Guangbei, etc., and Lu Peng has also attracted much attention as a supporting role.
In "Bright Sword", Lu Peng plays the role of a Japanese officer named "Yamamoto Kazuki". His burly figure and grim expression impressed the audience, and it is worth mentioning that his Japanese lines were all done by himself, without being dubbed by voice actors. This play not only changed Lu Peng's fate, but also marked the beginning of his acting career.
Lu Peng was born on July 2, 1968 in Xuzhou City, Jiangsu Province, to ordinary parents. After graduating from high school in 1986, he was admitted to the College of Literature of Jiangsu Normal University (formerly known as Xuzhou Normal University) with excellent grades. Lu Peng is 1.85 meters tall, burly and mighty in appearance, and has a serious face, giving people a slight sense of intimidation.
In college, Lu Peng became a goalkeeper for the school's soccer team, wearing blonde streamer hair and showing professional and dashing movements when saving the ball on the field. At the school celebration cup football match, many girls stood on the sidelines and shouted Lu Peng's name. However, in fact, Lu Peng did not play football when he was a child, and one of his characteristics is that he is good at imitation. His movements of running and saving balls on green pitches were modeled after European football stars.
Lu Peng is full of competitive consciousness and eager to show himself, and this personality trait is very suitable for the career of an actor. After graduating from university in 1990, Lu Peng was assigned to the Chinese Department of Xuzhou Institute of Education as a teacher. This period was relatively quiet for Lu Peng, who successfully completed the task of getting married and having children.
However, in 1997, Lu Peng was sent by the unit to Nanjing Normal University for further study, once, the famous reportage writer Ke Yan came to the school to give a report, students can write a note to ask questions, but Lu Peng did not want to do so, he stood up and asked Ke Yan directly. Hundreds of people's eyes were focused on Lu Peng, but he acted calmly and confidently interacted with Ke Yan.
At that time, the person in charge of the Nanguo Drama Club of Nanjing Normal University was on the field, and he took a fancy to Lu Peng's tenacious psychological quality and took the initiative to invite him to join the drama rehearsal of the Nanguo Drama Club. Lu Peng is full of curiosity and actively accepts the challenge, although he has not acted in a play before.
In the Nanguo Drama Club, Lu Peng participated in the dramas "Happy Yellow Handkerchief" and "Forever Guitar". This experience of acting in dramas not only made Lu Peng discover the potential of his acting industry, but also helped him open the door to enter the film and television industry.
In 1999, Lu Peng returned to work at Xuzhou Institute of Education, and at the same time had the dream of becoming an actor. That year, he applied for the Beijing Film Academy as a graduate student in the acting department, and although he knew that he might not pass the exam, he took the exam purely to understand the procedure of the exam.
After the cultural course of the initial examination and the subsequent re-examination, interview and performance session, Lu Peng knew the whole process of Nortel's graduate student admission. Two years later, Lu Peng studied hard in his spare time, applied for the Beijing Film Academy acting department graduate school again, and was finally admitted with the first place.
At that time, Lu Peng was 34 years old, already married, and he was re-admitted for a graduate degree, and the effort and hardship behind this decision are indescribable.
During his graduate studies at Nortel, Lu Peng sent resumes everywhere, but he was never successful.
However, shortly after the start of "Bright Sword" in 2004, an assistant director saw Lu Peng's resume and invited him to audition. The competitors include multiple actors, including one from Japan.
The main characters in the play, such as Li Youbin, Zhang Guangbei, etc., are all over 1.80 meters tall, so the director requires that the anti-No. 1 actors who play opposite them must also be burly and tall.
Lu Peng is 1.85 meters tall, has a serious expression, and speaks Japanese fluently. In the end, he stood out from the competition with his excellent figure, appearance and temperament, and became the best choice for "Kazuki Yamamoto" in "Bright Sword".
In 2005, after "Bright Sword" was a hit, Lu Peng never expected that this drama would achieve such a huge impact. So far, the show has been replayed more than 3,000 times on major TV stations across the country.
"Bright Sword" changed Lu Peng's fate, so that after that, he no longer needed to go to the crew to submit his resume, but many crews took the initiative to come to him and ask him to star. Because his role in the play "Yamamoto Kazuki" is very classic, directors have asked him to star in various anti-Japanese war dramas and play the image of a Japanese officer. The Japanese officers Lu Peng played in these plays include "Takeshi Yano" ("The Great Knife Cuts Off the Devil's Head"), "Itagaki Seiro" ("Early Spring in the Grassland"), "Kurokita" ("Merit"), "Yamada" ("Saber"), "Takahashi" ("Nakatenkata Hanging Sword") and other characters.
During his teaching at Jiangsu Normal University, Lu Peng also continued to film TV series, including "Blue Blindness", "Operation Sharp Arrow", "Decisive Battle Swallow Gate", "Arrow on the String", "War Soul", "Golden Force", "Pistol Team", "Operation Sharp Arrow", "Lure Wolf", "Rescue Mr. Wu" and many other works.
The film and television industry is highly competitive, and the roles of Japanese officers are usually played by several actors such as Lu Peng, Ma Weijun, and Wang Kan in turn. Some actors may be jealous and will talk or create rumors behind their backs, but Lu Peng is never disturbed by this.
Sometimes when filming in the crew, some people will make Lu Peng difficult, and even laugh at him, accusing him of having a high income in teaching, why should he come to the crew to film.
However, Lu Peng always responded to them with a nonchalant attitude, pointing out that his teaching and performance complemented each other. He believes that his performance is meant to teach better, and his teaching provides a more enriching experience for his performance.
Since most of the characters played were Japanese military officers, Lu Peng faced high demands, worried that too similar between the characters might make the audience feel repetitive and bored. Therefore, whenever he gets a new script, he carefully studies the characters and tries to find the uniqueness of the characters to ensure that each character has its own characteristics.
When filming the TV series "On the Songhua River", Lu Peng's role was very cruel, and even scared some young actors in the crew, making it difficult for them to enter the play. After the filming, he took the initiative to comfort the little actors, buy them snacks, and care about their emotional state.
Many extras have been tortured by him in the play with Lu Peng, and some have even been killed by him in the play, so they may think that Lu Peng is also difficult to get along with in life. However, Lu Peng always actively communicates with these extras, allowing them to gradually understand his true character. These actors may initially harbor a deep hatred for him, but as soon as the camera is finished, they can't wait to take pictures with Lu Peng.
Although Lu Peng behaves low-key in public, he was married before he was 30 years old and had a son with his wife. At the beginning, he embarked on the road of acting, also in order to earn more money and provide better living conditions for his wife and children.
Lu Peng has experienced many difficulties, especially when he was admitted to the Beijing Film Academy as a graduate student, his wife cut back on food and clothing and bought nutrition to support his studies. Although his wife is not a film and television practitioner, she still firmly supports Lu Peng and sends him living expenses.
From 2002 to 2011, Lu Peng was on the move, separated from his family. The wife has been silently suffering from the pain of separation, but she has never complained. In 2011, Lu Peng returned to teach at Jiangsu Normal University, also to spend more time with his wife and children. Despite the limited time Lu Peng has between home and work, he always tries his best to take care of his family, cook, clean up, and accompany his wife back to her mother's house.
The wife is well aware of her husband's hard work, and their marriage is her greatest luck and happiness. In his wife's opinion, marrying Lu Peng is her blessing.
As of 2023, Lu Peng is 55 years old, and the number of dramas has decreased. In recent years, due to the backlog of anti-Japanese war dramas, the number of TV series he participated in has decreased. However, he remains active, and in April 2023, the movie "Jungle of Secret Wars" starring him has completed post-production and is about to meet the audience. This movie marks Lu Peng's return to the screen, which I believe will bring surprises to the audience.
Actors with their own "president" temperament, I only serve these 5! Not very handsome, but the aura is too strong
In the entertainment industry, beautiful men and women emerge one after another, however, the real temperament is not easy to obtain from youth and beauty. This quality usually takes the baptism of time and the experience of life to manifest, but some people seem to be born with this unique temperament.
In the film, we often see characters such as "rich and handsome" or "overbearing president", but having this aura is not just handsome, the key is that the actor must truly restore this rich and powerful atmosphere.
Many actors like to play such roles, both handsome and wealthy, but not everyone can successfully show this temperament. Some actors may just make love and coax girlfriends in the role, which seems a little unnatural.
There are also some actors who are famous for playing "Gao Fu Handsome", but if they blindly follow this style, it may cause audience aesthetic fatigue and even affect their careers. This may be because they did not plan their acting careers reasonably, resulting in a gradual reduction in scenes.
Next, we will list some actors with their own "overbearing president" temperament. Although they may not have the appearance of Xiao Xianrou, the "domineering president" aura they come with is something that others cannot imitate.
Wang Yaoqing once broke the news that it was not that he was unwilling to try other types of roles, but that he had been invited to play similar roles, which made him feel quite strange.
Therefore, we often see him on TV playing roles that are basically wealthy people. Although he may not be the star of a certain show, whenever he appears, it is as if the richest character in the entire show appears.
When he first met him, he had always played the role of a domineering president. Although there may not be much attention at first, it is more obvious to repeatedly play this type of role in many dramas, such as "Entrepreneurial Era", "My True Friend", and "Happier Next Stop".
Wang Yaoqing's appearance does not have much brilliance, he has a relatively ordinary face, thick and thick eyebrows, standard facial features, not too big eyes, but exudes an indescribable "nobility".
In addition to this kind of luxury, he gives people the feeling of returning from studying abroad and inheriting the family business, or the feeling of starting a business for many years and experiencing the battlefield. Sometimes he seems very sophisticated, sometimes he is full of fortitude and shows manhood.
Some netizens even humorously said that they can accept Wang Yaoqing's cheating, but they can't accept him becoming poor, because even if he is lost one day, people still believe that he has the ability to make a comeback and be different.
Slowly, his style was defined as a very strong business atmosphere such as "overbearing president", and it was not until he participated in variety shows that everyone realized that he had another side.
Outside the play, he is very humorous and funny, and from time to time he will come up with some humorous ideas that make people laugh. This kind of maturity and humor is hard not to dislike.
Tan Kai's height reached 180 centimeters, and compared with Wang Yaoqing, he showed a completely different image. Although his appearance is also not stunning, his facial features are very three-dimensional, giving people a feeling of a tough guy, born with the momentum of the return of the king.
Unlike Wang Yaoqing, Tan Kai looks more like a rich generation, like a wealthy person who started from nothing and struggled to achieve success along the way.
It is very appropriate to describe Tan Kai with "domineering" and "tough", and his appearance is very in line with the aesthetic standards of traditional men. His nose is high and straight, and his lips are slightly thick, giving a strong masculine taste.
He is very suitable for the role of president, tall, masculine and steady. He not only has the temperament of a president, but also has a unique majesty of the return of a king.
In the TV series "Myth", Tan Kai played the role of Xiang Yu. He fully demonstrated Xiang Yu's masculinity, as well as the first brave domineering performance in ancient and modern times. He used his unique understanding to deduce the image of "Xiang Yu, the Overlord of Western Chu".
Especially in the Wujiang self-killing scene in the play, he vividly interpreted what is the "enemy of ten thousand people", and profoundly showed Xiang Yu's domineering spirit through the classic roar "Today, although I die, I am still the overlord of Western Chu". This scene shocked and impressed the audience, and it is no exaggeration to say that he can be called the best Xiang Yu actor.
Unlike the president role played by other actors, Zhang Chenguang's appearance naturally exudes a rich temperament. In fact, he never seems to have played a role in poverty, and even if he plays the leader of a village, it feels like he is worth hundreds of millions.
Although Zhang Chenguang is now over sixty years old, he was a handsome young student when he was young, and when he performed a scene with the heroine, he still exuded the feeling of an idol drama.
As he grew older, Zhang Chenguang gradually became plump, but he still had the temperament of a rich man, which also made him understand that it was not appropriate to act in a youth love drama again.
Subsequently, a director discovered the "rich" characteristics of Zhang Chenguang, and since 2007, Zhang Chenguang has begun to play the role of rich father and rich man. Although his role is relatively single, his acting skills are excellent, and his rich father is both flesh and blood, solemn and serious, sometimes amiable, and widely loved by the audience.
Although Zhang Chenguang is very rich in the play, in real life, he is very frugal. In one program, teacher Ni Ping once revealed that she would rather go to a roadside stall to eat than eat at Zhang Chenguang's home.
Another time, Zhang Chenguang opened his wardrobe, took out a piece of clothing and said: "This was bought to me by my wife 35 years ago, I have always treasured it, although it is already a little out of fit, I am still reluctant to throw it away." ”
Although Zhang Chenguang is very frugal in life, he is very generous to his wife. When he pursued his wife, he spent four full years and did not hesitate to spend money for her, giving her 99 roses every year. In the end, her was impressed by his sincerity, and she promised to marry him.
Zhang Chenguang's wife was knowledgeable and supported him silently. Zhang Chenguang also trusted her very much and handed over all the money he earned to her to take care of. Whether in the play or in life, Zhang Chenguang is a good man.
Although Zhu Yongteng's name may not be so well-known, once you see his photos, everyone should be able to recognize him because he is a veteran actor.
The word "good and evil" can be used to describe him because he sometimes plays a decent role and sometimes a villain, and he is able to successfully make the audience remember him in whatever style.
Although he may not have the characteristics of the protagonist's face, in the play, he usually plays villains, sometimes "Sven scum", sometimes "hidden knives in laughter", these traits will annoy the audience, and perhaps for this reason, directors usually choose him to play villains.
Although he mainly played villains in TV series, he also played positive roles, such as "business elite" or rich people.
In the TV series "Perfect Relationship", Zhu Yongteng played the role of a domineering president, but this time the president is different from the past.
When faced with layoffs, instead of rejecting employees with cold words, he told everyone at the last minute that the company was facing great difficulties to minimize the harm to employees. In the face of the rapid development of the company, he is full of ambition and fighting spirit.
No one is perfect, not even overbearing presidents. Not every overbearing president is a bad person, and not every one is a good person. Zhu Yongteng's Tang Zheng is not a bad guy, he is ambitious and domineering, but at the same time gentle, focusing on feelings and righteousness. This excellent acting skills make him enough to touch the hearts of the audience, if not the protagonist.
Zhong Hanliang initially became popular quickly with costume films, and later moved to the mainland to appear in many TV series, including "Against the Water and Cold", "The Secret History of Kangxi", "The Four Famous Hunters Back to Beijing", "Tianya Ming Yue Dao" and many other costume films. Among them, the role of Gu Xichao he played in "The Bright Moon Knife of the World" made him one of the "Four Beauty of the World", and also became a male god in ancient costume in the minds of many audiences.
Not only in costume dramas, Zhong Hanliang's domineering president role in idol dramas is also very popular, such as Lu Licheng in "The Most Beautiful Time" and He Yichen in "Why Sheng Xiao Mo". These characters make people trapped in it.
Zhong Hanliang's image of "overlord" is not limited to modern TV series, he has also successfully dabbled in different themes such as ancient costumes and warlords of the Republic of China, such as Murong Sishao in "Too late to say I love you", which is still well received today.
Despite being nearly fifty years old, his collaboration with Tan Songyun, who is more than a decade younger than him, in "Brocade Like Jade" was also well received. Zhong Hanliang's delicate facial features, mighty face and tall figure make him the perfect choice for playing the role of "overbearing president".
The five stars mentioned above not only have their own rich temperament, but also have their acting skills online and maintain excellent figures in all aspects. They are comfortable playing the role of "overbearing president". Although there are many young fresh meat that looks very handsome, it always lacks some sense of maturity and stability.
The 7 male stars who have played Lv Bu, the first few have their own merits, and the last one is to be funny?
When it comes to Lü Bu, the first thing that comes to mind is "the first fierce general of the Three Kingdoms", and his heroic achievements such as "Three British Battles Lü Bu" and "Halberd Shooting" have been passed down through the ages, becoming stories praising his bravery. It can be said that he was an unparalleled warrior during the Three Kingdoms period.
However, the character based on Lü Bu was nicknamed "Three Family Slaves" in "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" because of his temper problems, so people's evaluations of Lü Bu were mixed.
Despite this, for many men, Lü Bu, who has full force value, is still their hero, so the stars who played Lü Bu are also in the spotlight.
Now let's take a look at the 7 stars who have played Lv Bu and see what unique characteristics they have...
The 1994 version of "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" has always been regarded as a classic and is loved by the audience. Whether it is the choice of actors or the presentation of the plot, it is a rare masterpiece.
In this drama, actors such as "Guan Yu" played by Lu Shuming, "Zhuge Liang" played by Tang Guoqiang, and "Cao Cao" by Bao Guoan bring ancient characters to life in front of the audience, as if these characters were born to be like this.
Among them, "Lv Bu", played by teacher Zhang Guangbei, has rich scenes in the first half of the play, which leaves a deep impression on the audience. Although Zhang Guangbei's appearance is not as good as some powerful actors, he interprets Lü Bu's complex and multi-faceted characteristics with his excellent acting skills, showing his fierce, cunning and disloyal side, which deeply stimulates the audience.
It is reported that in order to better play Lv Bu, Zhang Guangbei also specially underwent muscle building training before filming, which made him not look so thin in the play.
Although Zhang Guangbei's performance is impeccable in terms of character psychology and acting skills, he fails to fully highlight Lü Bu's powerful image, which leads to his performance being somewhat inferior to other classic roles.
In any case, the 1994 version of "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" is still replayed every year, and Zhang Guangbei's performance also has its own uniqueness and is unforgettable.
In the Hong Kong entertainment industry, which was full of "fairy fights" at that time, any male star was regarded as a versatile all-round artist, and Lui Liangwei was also one of the high-profile stars. He once co-starred with Chow Yun-fat in "On the Beach", co-starred with Stephen Chow in "Gambler 2", and played the leader of the gangster who covered the sky with one hand in "Lame Hao", showing his excellent acting skills and appearance.
Therefore, when he was invited to star in Lv Bu in the TV series "Sable Cicada", this also became the focus of everyone's attention. However, although the title of the play implies that Lü Bu will be one of the important characters, due to the screenwriter's arrangement, Lü Bu does not have many scenes in the play.
Perhaps due to his brief appearance in the play, he could not fully show Lu Liangwei's outstanding acting skills, resulting in his performance appearing rushed and lacking depth. In the play, Lü Bu's weapon looks like a plastic toy, and his expression always presents a dull look, which is far from Lü Bu's original brave and cunning image, and the only impressive thing may be Lu Liangwei's appearance.
To sum up, due to some deficiencies in plot arrangement and performance, this drama did not get the ideal box office, so to this day, many people do not even remember that Lu Liangwei once played the role of Lv Bu.
Ironically, in a spoof clip in the TV series "Love Apartment", Sun Yizhou's "Lv Xiaobu" was regarded by many netizens as the real Lv Bu ceiling.
In this passage, Sun Yizhou is surrounded by special effects, dressed in pitch-black armor and holding a high-tech Fang Tian halberd, fighting fiercely against Japanese ninjas, which makes the audience enjoyable to watch.
However, unfortunately, this clip is only a few minutes, but its special effects are no less than Hollywood blockbusters, which is why Sun Yizhou's "Lv Bu" has been widely praised.
In fact, when the screenwriter designed this clip, both the styling and the makeup were imitating the image of Lv Bu in the game "Three Kingdoms Matchless".
Players who have played this game know that the tiger prison pass Lü Bu in the game has always been a nightmare for many players, and even some players will go back to challenge Lv Bu after clearing the level, but they may not be able to defeat him easily.
It is precisely because of the popularity of this game that many people subconsciously associate many historical figures with the images in the game, so Sun Yizhou's "Lv Bu" also benefits.
After the 1994 version of "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" became a classic, the subsequent 2010 version of "Three Kingdoms" was also well received.
In this drama, Lv Bu is played by He Rundong, an actor who vividly interprets the "role that male compatriots most longed for".
From Xiang Yu, Lv Bu, Bu Jiaoyun to Erlang Shen to Ximen Chuixue, He Rundong has received many opportunities to play these legendary roles with his handsome appearance, and each performance has won unanimous praise from the audience.
From the perspective of appearance alone, He Rundong's "Lv Bu" can be said to be the most in line with the public's aesthetics, he shows the momentum of courage and martial arts, coupled with unruly acting skills, which perfectly interprets Lv Bu's image. Especially when he rode a red rabbit horse and galloped on the battlefield to kill the enemy, people couldn't help but feel a chill.
However, the only disappointment was the director's "deliberate arrangement". Perhaps because of He Rundong's handsome appearance, the director arranged many emotional scenes, making this grand historical drama almost made into a "love drama", so Lv Bu's image received some negative evaluations.
Overall, He Rundong's appearance is still impressive, while also highlighting many of Lü Bu's merits.
In the TV series "Martial God Zhao Zilong", Lin Xinxin, Lin Yuner and Gao Yixiang and other stars starred vigorously. Although the protagonist is "Zhao Yun", the scene of "Lv Bu" is also considerable.
"Lv Bu" played by Gao Yixiang left an unusual impression on the audience. Perhaps because all the actors belong to the young school, the whole drama is shrouded in a star drama atmosphere. The costumes of the characters are no longer monotonous armor and cloth, but colorful costumes, coupled with many hot star interpretations, which makes the originally bloody story of the Three Kingdoms a little more poetic and gorgeous.
Gao Yixiang is 1.95 meters tall, perfectly showing Lü Bu's tall and mighty image, coupled with his sexy and charming beard, he won the appreciation of the audience just by his appearance.
However, despite his excellent appearance, many netizens think that "Lv Bu" played by Gao Yixiang is too greasy. If this is a shooting idol drama, the effect may be good, but it is slightly reluctant for costume dramas.
It is regrettable that Gao Yixiang died suddenly due to cardiogenic in 2019 and can no longer continue to bring more works to the audience. As one of the "Top 100 Most Handsome Faces in the World", although his acting skills and appearance are excellent, playing Lv Bu is a bit too much.
Koo Tianle is loved by the general audience for shooting various movies called "bad films to cover schools", and he is nicknamed "Principal Gu" because his good deeds are to use the income from making movies to build schools. In his works, "True Three Kingdoms Matchless" is also considered a "bad film".
Regarding this drama, the reviews on the Internet are mixed. Some people think that the special effects are exaggerated to the extreme, deviate from historical facts, and therefore give a low rating. Others believe that the show is just a tribute to the game, so the style is more biased towards the game itself than the real historical effect.
No matter how the outside world evaluates, Lv Bu, played by Gu Tianle in the play, is still very handsome. His image is the same as Lv Bu in the game "True Three Kingdoms Matchless 7", and when he wields Fang Tian's halberd, the scene instantly becomes thunderous and imposing.
No matter what the public thinks, Koo Tianle doesn't seem to care, because he has to hurry to continue his "building school" good deeds after filming "bad movies".
If the actors mentioned above can barely reflect Lv Bu's shadow, then Huang Lei's appearance is out of place.
Many people's impression of Huang Lei is stuck at the stage of "middle-aged man who is blessed", and it is difficult to imagine that he will play a role like Lv Bu.
However, in fact, Huang Lei did star...
In the TV series "Lv Bu and the Sable Cicada" directed by Chen Kaige, Huang Lei played Lv Bu, and Chen Hong's mink cicada performed a story full of love and hate.
What is criticized is the image of Huang Lei, killing Matt hairstyle with nose ring, looking like a street gangster, which is somewhat unbelievable. And Huang Lei's performance is too hard, and the deliberately exaggerated expression lacks deterrence, like a deranged person is having a crazy attack, so the show has received extremely poor reviews, and even was banned for a time because of the bloody scenes.
Later, the crew was cut and renamed "Butterfly Dance Tianya" to re-broadcast, but this did not save the series, but made Huang Lei a laughing stock for playing Lv Bu.
No matter what the image of the ancient character is, the public's impression of it is mainly understood through the actor. If the deduction is too deliberate, it is likely to backfire.
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