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Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

author:The Paper

The Paper's reporter Yang Qian

When "Rebel" was played, Zhang Zixian, the actor who played Wang Shi'an, received many private messages from Weibo. A large part of it questions: "Are you the honest Lin Yuming in "Ordinary Glory"? "Lin Yuming, how did you get bad?" "Can't believe you also played the Tardigrade in Animal Control?" ......

Some people sent private messages and went back to see "Ordinary Glory", or Zhang Zixian's cameo films "Beneficiary" and "Big Winner", and even looked for his earliest film and television role, playing a pawn in the TV series "Divine Judgment Di Renjie". After someone read it, he sent him a private message, saying that he couldn't believe that it was all played by the same person.

These reactions mean that after seeing the "Fish King" Wang Shi'an, in addition to the name of the character, many people have paid attention to remember that his own name is Zhang Zixian.

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

"Rebels" plays gifs made by the platform iQiyi

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When receiving the script of "Rebel", a colleague persuaded Zhang Zixian that Wang Shi'an was not a good person, too annoying, had a heavy heart, was the initiator of many bad things, and it was easy to be scolded after acting, and advised him to consider carefully. Zhang Zixian did not believe in this set, "What is pleasing and annoying, if you want to define it this way, in fact, you can find anyone to act." ”

Finding anyone to act is the last thing Zhang Zixian allows. He is not from the acting department of the class, and his "simple" understanding of what an actor should do is, "If I play a role, and everyone says who can act after watching it, I will be uncomfortable, so I am delayed here for four or five months, why should I?" ”

After reading the script of "Rebel", Zhang Zixian has concluded, "This will be a character that impresses the audience." ”

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

Stills from "Rebel", Zhang Zixian as Wang Shi'an

Wang Shi'an's brilliance is largely inseparable from Zhang Zixian's selfish performance of this character. The general image and function of Wang Shi'an in this story is to be a sleek snobber, a rudder who sees the wind and a fierce heart, which is used to promote the persecution of the male protagonist to despair of the Kuomintang, thus completing the change of faith. But Zhang Zixian did not want Wang Shi'an to simply complete the functionality of the role.

"At first, he was still clever, left and right, but the more he went, I saw many aspects of him, helpless or good, and went with the flow, including his desolation in the end. Everyone looks like a big bad guy, but I want to give him a little more three-dimensional life. He should be a very simple person in essence, including the calculations in the later stages, which he had to do, and the general environment prompted him to have an instinct to protect himself. In fact, he didn't make any particularly firm choices, he just did those things to survive and make his life better. In fact, he was quite passive, in the later stages, he repeatedly made mistakes, showing a sense of panic, when he reached this stage of life, all he did was 'I don't wear a gang for this matter, I will be finished if I wear help', it is not them who shoot them, it is no one else who has defected to the Japanese, it is himself. I don't even think he realizes he's going to end up like that. ”

Zhang Zixian's biggest selfishness for this role is to "perform a complex life experience", "although it is a bad person, I hope to arouse even a slight desire for the audience to protect him." "For a traditional spy drama, it is a great challenge for the audience to have a desire to protect the villain.

Zhang Zixian carefully and sentence by sentence analyzed and studied Wang Shi'an's various stages, thinking about the changes in each stage, "I have been pondering, from the deputy station manager to the acting station manager to the station manager, and then to the back of Lin Nansheng's return, he and Chen Moqun to cooperate in the middle, if you deliberately change a face, it is not real, very labeled, which point reflects the 'change'? In fact, they all use some small movements, the tone of speech, and the tone. These are not designs for this character, I myself do not want to design, I reject design, as long as the character's mental journey is analyzed carefully, there will be a lot of natural action during the shooting process, so more vivid. ”

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

During the broadcast of "Rebel", "Fish King" contributed many workplace forms

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Most people who have seen Zhang Zixian's play think he has a "sense of relaxation". For the actor, the sense of relaxation is precious and rare, even a talent, once nervous in front of the camera, it will make the audience feel contrived and deformed, and each role of Zhang Zixian makes people feel that he has become that person freely, whether it is a working worker, a bank president or a Republic of China agent.

"I thought later, maybe I looked like the audience felt relaxed, but it wasn't, I was nervous." Zhang Zixian said.

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

Stills from "Ordinary Glory"

When he played "Ordinary Glory", he was nervous almost from beginning to end, and he was always in a state of insecurity and cramping. He believes that if he does not find a feeling, he will not be confident, leading to nervousness, fortunately, lin Yuming's character itself has similar personality traits.

When preparing for the role of Wang Shi'an, Zhang Zixian was even so stressed that he hallucinated, "I especially want to memorize it (the lines), I think I want to have this superpower." Finally, he couldn't hold back, he called his friend and actor Dai Lele, "Sister, how to get this, the words are very much, especially awkward, I want to start shooting before getting it all done, I am ready to buy supplements on the Internet, can those nutritional products that supplement the brain work." ”

Zhang Zixian's pressure does not come entirely from the inability to memorize the lines, what he said about "getting him all right" means that the performance and emotions of the characters when they say the lines are all well thought out, "Remembering the lines is part of our work, and I also know how to say them fluently, but this is just saying the lines of the characters." The character of Wang Shi'an has his rhythm and tone, and I think this is what I want to do. When we were young, we were optimistic about many TV dramas, but it was like reading texts aloud, and I thought that was not acting, it was poetry recitation, it was memorizing texts. If that's the case, I'll lose interest, I'll get bored easily, then I'll hate myself. ”

This pressure made Zhang Zixian depressed for a while, "It's really annoying, isn't filming for fun?" That's not going to be happy. ”

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

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Zhang Zixian is not from a science class, and after studying art for several years, he feels that being an actor is more suitable for him. Although I have not dreamed of stardom since childhood, being an actor involves aesthetics and is more about freedom.

"I think if you're lucky enough to be an actor, it's not repetitive what you do every day. If the work is repeated two or three times, four or five times, I will be lost. If Zhang Zixian himself is allowed to live the commuting life of Lin Yuming or Wang Shi'an, he thinks that he will "go crazy", and the final result is to sell the leader boss, "otherwise how boring."

But he has not studied acting, nor does he know the "people in the circle", in addition to running the group, he can only think of a roundabout method, first in the circle to do behind-the-scenes, advertising, production, at least touched. He wants to be perfect, and the commercials are good, but he is not very happy, after all, he wants to be an actor.

Some people in the industry told him that you have not studied acting, and you are not handsome, don't toss it, what should you do as soon as possible, and work steadily. Zhang Zixian thought that these words were meaningless, and did not have to care, "If you want to say that I can't do it, then what if I look like this?" What if I like acting? If you can't solve it, don't tell me about it. Otherwise you tell me how to do it, I have to thank you, you say I can't do it, and I can't come up with a solution, can you manage me to like it? ”

Zhang Zixian denied from the root that his experience was a counterattack story of "bittersweet", "Everyone said that I was still quite miserable, in fact, no, I have always been very beautiful, I have been very happy, and it is very smooth, from 2010 to 2015 I played every day, I did nothing, and later I contacted the big director, I found that I was quite happy to play with them, and they also liked me." ”

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

In Ning Hao's short film "Bayir's Spring Festival", Zhang Zixian plays a father who takes his son for the New Year after divorce.

In that period of life of a nobody, Zhang Zixian's mentality was quite interesting. He was rarely anxious, playing games, basketball, racing, watching movies and reading books without drama, and he felt that he had never panicked, in case he had not acted in a play, what to do about it.

"You have to say that every day you play you are not panicked, I am really not panicked, I have always believed from beginning to end, I can definitely shoot a good scene, definitely did not run." 」 I made some bad films before, I gave them good things, they don't approve, now I turn back and look at it, compared to the good works I think are good, I feel that I am no problem, the concept of aesthetics is no problem. So you say I'm anxious about something, I'm wandering around, it's not worth it. ”

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

Played Zhong Zhenjiang in "The Beneficiary"

Zhang Zixian draws from elementary school and is more sensitive to beauty, "When I was a child, I was a particularly smelly and beautiful child, I knew what was good to look at and what was not good, whether it made you happy or made you cry, as long as you acted well, there was always a part that could impress you." ”

He trusts his judgment, and some of the teams he finds him will "draw a line with them" if they have a bad aesthetic and don't listen to his advice, so he refuses many opportunities.

"It was a little annoying because I couldn't make a good scene, but I think people are looking for you to shoot a scene." But I don't go to the bad scenes, I can't shoot them. I don't want that opportunity, I don't go earn that money because then I'm not comfortable. You have to be happy to shoot a scene, you have to be comfortable. ”

【Dialogue】

I think Wang Shi'an is a person who works

The Paper: I saw that you posted another picture on Weibo in the four groups of WeChat groups in the previous "Ordinary Glory" drama, do you feel that you are on fire?

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

Screenshot of Zhang Zixian's WeChat

Zhang Zixian: No. We usually talk there all the time. I thought it was a good play, and they didn't come to congratulate me, so I thought about making a joke with them.

The Paper: Did Zhao Youting and Bai Jingting watch "Rebels"? What do you think of it?

Zhang Zixian: They said they all watched it, and said that like (Wang) Zhiwen, Zhu Yilong, and Wang Yang, they all acted very well, but they didn't mention me, hahahaha.

The Paper: Do you think "I finally let a lot of people know" or is it quite normal?

Zhang Zixian: In fact, many people have always known me, but I don't know what my name is, this time it is indeed a very good thing for me, at least in the future, I like the drama, I like the role, there are more opportunities, the director and the creator should have more confidence in me, I can go to participate in more of the work I like.

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

Stills from Rebel

The Paper: You think the characters are three-dimensional, so how do you analyze and think about the characters?

Zhang Zixian: Every time I look at the complete book, I will imagine this character as a child, and I will start to think about it from the time the character is a child.

For example, if you find that there is not, when we go to school, the tube is elementary school, junior high school, high school, the kind of special noise in the class, the kind of pick-up, the troublemaker, sometimes a little angry, but you have to admit that maybe this kind of person has a certain charm of him, since some people hate him, there must be someone who likes him, otherwise why does he repeat the annoying point as always.

That is to say, if you can roughly know what this person was like when he was a child, you will give this person a different side of personality, he is a more cunning person, is a more sinister person, or a more honest person, when he deals with a thing, he will not be cunning and sinister every time, calculating, he will not always use these thoughts, he will definitely bring out other experiences in the process of growing up, mentality, personality.

I never thought of a character as single, one-sided, that kind of character in a cartoon, cat and mouse, Donald Duck Mickey Mouse.

I think Wang Shi'an is a person who works in a down-to-earth manner, and he does not have too many extravagant expectations for what he believes in, those authorities, so he will bully him and take him for granted. I feel that he may also be an honest man when he was in Whampoa, obedient, and even a little only promise, maybe when he was young, the family conditions should be good, at that time there was no worry about food and clothing, and he did not experience the destruction of society.

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

The Paper: That is to say, you made a lot of preparations before shooting, and completed a relatively large psychological path analysis.

Zhang Zixian: Basically, this is the case, otherwise I would have panicked when I played every character, and I couldn't find that point, it was terrible. I don't know how to use those technical tricks, I don't know what kind of school I am, and we haven't learned the system anyway, so I can only use my own way.

The Paper: You wouldn't design the details to say you should turn your head around at this time, or you should look at him, right?

Zhang Zixian: Yes, no, then it is not instinctive, not vivid, at least you can't impress the opponent, this scene is very missing, and it does not impress the audience when it is presented. I didn't believe it myself.

I experience it more. I hope that every character I present, he can talk to this text with this character in this script, I hope to have more intersection with everyone.

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

Wang Shi'an's expression analysis chart made by netizens

"Ordinary Glory" seems to be going to work, but I use it as a jianghu, three people are proud of each other, and one is lost. And "Rebels" is a spy war, but in fact, I have always used it as a work performance. I think if you are in a spy war, if you are head-to-head, eyebrows are coming and going, and you are always there to sneak around with that energy, you really don't have to. Therefore, Wang Shi'an also deserted, spitting, drinking some wine, bragging or something, but the unit where he worked was sometimes a bit fatal.

Just like it may seem to the outside world that we actors are mysterious, but you want to say that we usually work, where is it so mysterious, is it not a neurosis?

The Paper: Do you think acting should still try to make the audience feel real and intimate, rather than doing theatrical design?

Zhang Zixian: Everyone has the most comfortable acting method suitable for themselves, from where to start, it is very rare that I am a person with better luck, these works, these teams, are the kind of actors who have others in their eyes, and the working state is also a mind for the good of this work.

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

The Paper: You have involved a lot of confrontations with Wang Zhiwen, Zhu Yilong and Wang Yang, and have you had any impressive discussions in the process of acting?

Zhang Zixian: Actually, we have discussed a lot. Because it is necessary to be efficient on the set, the time is relatively tight, and the day is hot, but everyone in private, especially in the early stage, will bluntly say their ideas about the film as a whole, including their own characters, their views on each other's characters, and the help is quite large. The day is very good to talk about in front, and it will be a little more flowing when it turns.

Teacher Wang Zhiwen's help to each of our actors is particularly great, his position, business, is the eternal god, we really can't reach it, only worship him, but he is carefully caring for each of us, with the heart, including will give us some business experience, the understanding of the characters on the script, to help us better enter the state.

Each genre film has its own kind of energy, teacher Wang Zhiwen will help us find that momentum faster, because to be honest, everyone has not filmed this kind of spy war, I have friends watching this film, can see that teacher Wang Zhiwen looked at your eyes, as if to say that you are not bad, and progress, very pleased look.

In addition, there are a few scenes that Wang Yang helped me think, he would tell me, you may be better this way, he said that I think it is indeed better.

In fact, let all the characters around you be wonderful, and your own characters can shine.

The Surging News: The role of Wang Shi'an belongs to the war era, it is difficult to experience substitution in a simple way, what do you think is the most difficult point in playing him?

Zhang Zixian: The most difficult point is that I may have mixed some selfishness, Wang Shi'an is bad, but I hope to perform him as a three-dimensional, complex life experience.

Other technical problems, the tone of speech, you use the world at that time to ask for this character at this time, maybe the imagination in other people's minds is like that, you think in vain, because it is impossible to meet all the ideas of other people. No matter what, he is an ordinary person, but his growth environment, living environment, and his circle are different from modern people. You can only try to do it in such a series, everyone can believe that there was such a person who should live in the environment of the play before, he is real.

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

The Paper: Is there any on-site impromptu play?

Zhang Zixian: This involves another difficulty, this (Taiwan) word is many and awkward, like this type of film, if you play too much, it may affect the overall situation. People have spent several years writing a script for you, people come and go back and forth to ponder the logic and atmosphere, you have to play for people... Don't change the script very well, but you can add some character details, such as scheduling, some small actions and the like.

I think the first purpose is that you have to complete the main character growth, the character arc, and his highlight moments. After completing the functionality, let's talk about whether you can make yourself more exciting. I think the most important function of the actor himself is to complete things other than the script, the text is the text, and the text is enriched by the actor.

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

Zhang Zixian plays the emergency director in "Beijing Good People" in "My Hometown and Me" (middle)

If you want to be an actor, you can be an actor in a down-to-earth manner

The Paper: What is the source of your view of acting?

Zhang Zixian: I think interest is very important to me, I don't know what acting is, I don't know how to use methods and techniques, but if I can arouse my interest in story characters, I will spend more time thinking about it.

The Paper: So what is your interest in acting? For example, want to be another person and experience a variety of different lives?

Zhang Zixian: This is a very mysterious thing, I thought about it before, and then I felt that it was not. I may have presented the character's life, but when it came time, it was only a few months of mine. I'm a very lazy person, and I can't have my passion for anything for a long time, but this acting thing, at least you let me play one role today, and play another role after a while, you can maintain my enthusiasm.

The Paper: Acting is the job that keeps you passionate about life to the greatest extent possible.

Zhang Zixian: I think so. When I was young, I should have thought about this, when I was young, I always took the clothes of adults to wear, wore sunglasses or something, and there was a very tone, and then sprayed some hairspray. Maybe at that time, I still wanted others to pay attention to me.

But it's not a show. We are okay to chat across China Mobile, I am not particularly comfortable meeting, I can't say too many words when I see people. Especially if I really can't do it, I want to eat with a table of people, I also sit for a while and leave, it's quite uncomfortable, but it's really uncomfortable for me to sit.

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

The Paper: Do you like to analyze the personality of yourself or other people in your life?

Zhang Zixian: That's not true, the old one has become a voyeuristic. You may say that you observe life, but I think observing life is a very stupid thing. Observe life, then how do you, every day on the street, catch strange-looking people to see and follow? Who has any different personality traits to observe all the time, and then uses his behavior and demeanor into the play? I don't think that's quite right.

I understand the observation of life, maybe when you work, when you live, you will have a string stretched, not that I carry a bag, today to observe life, or I have to stand on the road, I think, this is every moment to exist in the subconscious mind, you think this person is interesting, you have to be able to capture the most vivid and true side of his truth. Absorbing more of this will help you deduce a real person that everyone believes in.

Before I also analyzed my own such ideas, there are some scenes that my role is not heavy, but the director also thinks that I act well, but where it seems to be a little strange, in the end is good or not, everyone is not clear.

The Paper: In the history of the verifiable, you just started playing the pawn in "Divine Judgment Di Renjie", which is an ordinary starting point for everyone to remember that non-science class people want to be actors, that is, the crew runs the dragon set. But in fact, once most of the dragon runners start doing group performances, it is difficult to go up. Why are you able to go all the way from a group show to a cameo, to a supporting role, or even a protagonist?

Zhang Zixian: First of all, I am a very lucky person, I have been painting since I was a child, so at least I have aesthetic judgment on one thing, whether I like acting or being a big star, I don't agree with what some people do.

I had played those marginal roles before, and at the time I thought it must be unsuitable, because the requirements of the creative team, the concept between the performers, and the quality of the works presented were all things. But I didn't know anyone at that time, and no one let you put on a play because of your aesthetic, that was a joke. I think it would be quite missing if I didn't have that experience.

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

Played the policeman Lao Yao in "The Big Winner"

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

"The Wandering Earth", as astronaut Huang Guosheng (middle)

The Paper: When you started playing from a marginal role, you didn't have a little fear and panic? Just in case just like that year after year has passed.

Zhang Zixian: I sometimes panic about what it is, that is, I may not have enough time to play, and I will soon be filming. I think filming is a thing I want to do in the future, there is a stage that must be done, other aspects of thinking is useless, not to escape, no money can earn money to go, we can not delay the quality of life.

I firmly believe that I should do this, we are not talking about doing it blindly, but also to see if there is any market vacancy.

When I couldn't be an actor before, I felt that things related to this industry, I saw if there was a chance. But I didn't do it bitterly, and I did it when I had fun. Later, I felt that if I wanted to be an actor so much, I would be an actor and not do anything else.

The Paper: I think you almost didn't doubt yourself, didn't any professionals hit you?

Zhang Zixian: Yes, before others said that you can't act, you don't have toss yourself, what to do in a down-to-earth manner, some well-known actors have also said so. I'm very happy, because I've seen them act, and it's the reverse proof, and I'm okay. Anyone can say it, but whoever says it and how you listen to it.

In 2008, I also filmed "Mei Lanfang" with Director Sun Honglei and Chen Kaige, they all said that I was good, just a few of you said I was not good, who is not good in the end?

The Paper: Their praise for you gives you a lot of confidence.

Zhang Zixian: At least I can feel that you are seriously thinking about your performance space, giving the character something other than functionality, without affecting other people, others can see.

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

The Paper: You're not afraid you won't have a chance? So many students graduate from acting every year.

Zhang Zixian: I think there is a good opportunity and a bad opportunity, you first determine what is a good opportunity, a bad opportunity is not worth lingering on, you can't take care of every opportunity.

You do your job well and think clearly about what you want to look at in the moment. If there is no good opportunity, I don't want to just grab the opportunity to go, I think a person will always have a good opportunity.

Although I have not been in contact with people in the industry before, the people around me are very good people in various industries, I have not suffered any crimes, I am very lucky, those big brothers and predecessors, are going all out to help me, sometimes I can't make a judgment, there will really be someone to help me make a judgment.

As an actor, try to be simple, there are many things you can't understand, always thinking about why others can do that I can't, then why don't you say what he has experienced, you two exchange bodies, you may not be able to carry it down.

Before everyone said what small fresh meat, traffic artists are not good, but let you a day in addition to filming, but also let you do 8 things, can you do it? You say you can do it because you make a lot of money. That also allows you to maintain your appearance, lose weight, can not eat delicious food, can you dry it? You can say yes, I'll have money after five or six months. Tell you again, sleep is not solid, the average day sleep three or four hours a day, can you carry it down? You have to stay in perfect shape. It's hard, isn't it?

I think everyone, he can get better and better, must have a certain outstanding quality.

Interview | "Touching the Fish King" Zhang Zixian: Nervous, I am really nervous

In "Samurai Shodown", he played the wizard Yan Yanle in Pingjing City

The Paper: What are your criteria for a good script?

Zhang Zixian: I think that to impress people, it is not pretentious. If there is a standard - in the text stage, you will unconsciously pay attention to the fate of all the characters. It doesn't matter, but it's more important how the person got after that, and I think such a script is good.

The Paper: What's your favorite movie you've seen in recent times?

Zhang Zixian: What I often look at is "Don't Come to Me Again When You're Divorced" (a family ethics film directed by Wang Rui and starring Zhang Yan, Li Baotian, and Gaike). I feel that the play is very solid and can make the audience resonate.

Editor-in-Charge: Zhang Zhe

Proofreader: Zhang Liangliang

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