This article is written by PsiBlade
Source: TalkOP Seaway - One Piece Forum
This post is not so much an analysis as a question. I thought of something again, and added more to the end of the post
In fact, after this statement came out, I was quite confused, because I remember that there was a setting that knew the name of the fruit after eating the demon fruit, so what is the use of the world government to rename the fruit.
Then, in order to be more rigorous, I turned over various wikis and did not find which episode this setting appeared in, or even mentioned this, and finally I saw it by chance from the mouth of Rob Lucci in episode 385:
After hearing about the ability, you can know the name of the fruit. - One Piece, Dongli Edition, Vol. 40, Episode 385
Such an important setting, in order to be more rigorous, I went to find the original text of the Japanese and American versions of the manga, as follows:
In summary, the meaning is almost to know the name of the fruit based on the acquired ability (I don't know Japanese, and I use several translation software to compare).
So the strange point is that if the fruit is eaten by a human (conscious creature), what kind of name makes the user mistakenly think that it is the current ability and not the original ability? If it is "eaten" by something unconscious, is the name used to deceive the world, or is it to deceive the devil fruit itself?
From the perspective of the recently appeared abilities, first exclude the common and ancient animal families, then there are the following characters:
Superman Department:
- Luffy – Rubber fruit
- Robin – Flowers and fruits
- Luo – The fruit of surgery
- Kidd – Magnetic Fruit
- Hawkins – Straw Fruit
- DJ sound - sound fruit
- Kinemon - Clothing fruit
- Kanshiro – Pen Fruit
- Big Mama – Soul Fruit
- Charlotte's special son - licking the fruit
- Ayu – Dumpling fruit
- Patience – Ripe fruit
- Leizang - Rolling fruit
Department of Nature:
- Karib – Zeze Fruit
- Blackbeard – Dark Fruit
Animal lineage (esper species):
- Kaido and Momosuke - Fish Fruit Green Dragon
- Marco – Bird Bird Fruit Immortal Bird
- Black Charcoal Great Snake - Snake Snake Fruit Yagi Great Snake
- Cow Ghost Pill - Everyone Fruit Great Sangha
- Yamato - InuYasha Fruit Oguchi Makoto
According to the current role of the scene is still quite a lot, there may be only rubber, surgery, magnetic magnetism, fish and fish these fruits, barely speaking there are flowers, and then barely a little pen pen. At present, the above fruits are clearly awakened by surgery and magnetic magnetism.
In fact, when I read the intelligence, I thought, how can this be deceived, people have the ability to eat the fruit, and what name they call cannot change the scope of their ability.
But thinking about it in turn, the only possibility that can be conceived of in the humble opinion of the individual is that the name given by the world government to this fruit is the ability to narrow the scope under the original name ability, implying that the ability can explore within this range.
Fruits of surgery:
So thinking about it can only be the fruit of surgery, because its use method is a bit too specific, Corazon's words directly framed Luo's learning and use direction, and want to play the "surgical" ability to a very high threshold. In the information currently available, only the name of this fruit refers to a "crooked road".
From the perspective of ability, it feels more like the fruit of some kind of space, and when the Kingdom of Peace comes out with a light moon, this is not impossible to expose a Trakon.
However, Luo also has skills such as electric shock pacing and gamma knife, which seems to have nothing to do with space skills; at the same time, the government's attitude towards Luo is also quite strange, and after his own value of 5 billion, he has become the Seven Martial Seas, which is to see him go further and further in the development of fruits to be assured? Or that no one has awakened for hundreds of years anyway, and Luo Awakening is definitely a small probability event.
But selfishly, the supernova trio Rilo has too many scenes, and the label is too important, and I would prefer to give Kidd a point.
Moreover, it is not 100% confirmed that the fruit of the operation has been renamed, and there is a 60% chance of it.
Rubber fruit:
Personally, I strongly disagree with the idea that the fruit that has been given a different name is the rubber fruit. From the current point of view, although I think that there is a high probability of awakening to Kaido's battle, but at present in the comic or in a smaller scope of discussion: in the perspective of the five old stars, Luffy has no signs of fruit awakening; in the past, CP9 is not necessarily a special trip to escort this fruit, and the red hair is not necessarily to grab this fruit; to the comic, it is also very unromantic to suddenly turn the protagonist's very ordinary fruit into a super big BUG; from the setting, man-made products such as biscuits and rice sticks can become demon fruits. It is not against the setting that the semi-natural product of rubber becomes a demon fruit, and the Giants have not explicitly shown characteristics such as anti-electric shock, anti-dun attack, and weak slash.
Summary: 1% probability, even if it is a high probability of bad chess, but also have to make up a bunch of bugs.
Magnetic Fruit:
After thinking about it for half a day, I didn't think about what this thing is not called a magnetic fruit. But the current pen and ink for Kidd is really quite small compared to Luo, this configuration is really not low from the early stage, in the Chambord Island employment agency door against the Navy miscellaneous soldiers when still standing C position, and straw hat like two supernovae on the ship, the bounty is higher than Luffy. (However, I also tend to think that Oda did not portray Luffy as a top student of the same period, so that everyone can see that there are people outside the sky and the sky outside the sky))
Judging from Kira's plot, there may be a drama. At that time, in the employment agency, he also witnessed Luffy playing Draco, and Reilly appeared. Now look at Luo, with the fruits of 5 billion worth, when he was in the Seven Wu Seas, he allied with Luffy to push Joker, and he was also a bunch of buffs such as the D family. At present, Kidd basically does not use much ink, only that in the new world, the former four emperors are alive and well.
Personally, I really hope that the fruit that vibrates the five old stars is the magnetic fruit, and I would like to see the story of Kidd and Kira. But still the question, this thing is not called magnetic fruit can be called what?
Summary: 60% probability, but it depends on what the name of the fruit that breaks through the imagination is.
Fish Fruit:
I know that many fish and fish fruits are Uranos, the reason is that a fish demon fruit can be of any use when eaten, or is it really allowed to have a fish demon fruit?
At present, there is no historical text related to Uranos encountered in the main line. If according to the previous plot speculation, along the great route, the main text is in front, the three kings are behind, it should only be a piece held by the big mother plus a piece of even flat picking, at most plus the two pieces in Kaido's hand.
If Kaido's fruit is the King of Heaven, it would be reasonable to give it a different name to hide the fact that it was an ancient weapon. However, the name is the name, the title is the title, just like Gol.D. Roger, the title is One Piece, even if he changes his title to One Piece Brother, he himself should have a name. Fish and fish fruit is the king of heaven, but also has to be a demon fruit, is the devil fruit always have a name, can not be this thing called the king of heaven fruit bar, a Chinese style species actually has the name of a Greek god, always feel strange.
Similarly, kaido and Luffy's battle does not depict awakening, and it is logically strange for the five old stars to learn this.
Probability: 10%
Zuo Wu:
It is also unlikely. This kind of storyboard switching is most likely to be pit people, what elephant ate the island fruit or the island ate the elephant fruit, the government is better to directly announce that this is an incredible elephant, directly deny the fact that this is a fruit, it is better than telling everyone that this thing is a fruit but not what you think Oh to come. And even if the Five Old Stars and the Navy are communicating, and even if it is Zuo Wu who is talking, just by virtue of its coming towards the Kingdom of Peace, there is no information to infer that Zuo Wu has awakened.
Zuo Wu has been gone since a thousand years ago, and if the Five Old Stars have awakened to this thing, it means that since the time of Roger, Zuo Wu may have "awakened" again, but in the past 20 years, the navy and the world government have zero intelligence on Zuo Wu.
Of course, the definition of "legend" may also refer to the original name of the fruit, so it may still be one of the fruits above. This is pure speculation, not responsible for guessing.
Summary: 5% probability, with the current information can not deduce this is, if it is, but also to make up a lot of settings.
Finally, the Five Old Stars say that it is to erase the real name of this fruit from history, or there may be another possibility that the world was established 800 years ago or 900 years ago by the ability of this fruit, and it is highly related to the 100 years of history that disappeared. If you guess it this way, whether it is the natural environment of the Red Earth Continent and the Great Passage, which is very unlike the natural formation, or the strange geomagnetic system of the Great Passage, it is like an artificial product, knowing that the fruit with this function exists, people will involuntarily associate the Great Passage or special history with this fruit (renaming it is also used to cover up history), so that it is still impossible to run Kidd and Rowe.
The above is basically a personal conjecture, the logic is not very rigorous, this pit is dug up and does not know the year of the monkey and the month of the horse to fill.
When I touched the fish, I thought about the fish fruit again.
The strange point is that there are precedents in Japan for calling dragons snakes (such as the Yagi Great Snake, which is actually the dragon head), and there are many examples of "dragon" cultures that compare snakes to dragons or call dragons to snakes, but Kaido's fruits are attributed to fish fruits, not snakes and snake fruits. The same is the esper lineage, and the yagi great snake fruit with the same dragon image is below the normal snake snake fruit. If I don't consider the current plot, I would now think that the name of the green dragon form fish and fish fruit is much more suspicious, of course, under the premise of not considering the reasons I questioned before or having a more reasonable explanation.
Rubber fruit, it is not impossible, but you have to add a lot of settings, and then you may make up more and more bugs.
Then I thought about the main text of history.
As one of the original Twenty Kingdoms, Alabastan retained a fairly important Pluto-related stone, while Aquaman's related stone was on the empty island, where the two decks were full of two ancient weapons. However, although Tokushima was a little smaller, he was also one of the original twenty countries, and there was not a single stone. The shadow of the Heavenly King is not seen at all now, and I suspect that there may be the piece that Ishikari picked up, the one found in a sunken underwater civilization site; the stone in The Big Mother's place is more likely to have been collected; Kaido's is also likely to have been collected, and it is also possible to record the information of the Heavenly King.
(I don't quite understand what the signpost stone in the land of Wazu is now.) Roger printed one on Big Mama, one on Fishman Island, and one on Zuo Wu, but in Mita's memories they didn't say where that piece went. And Mita and the cat and dog replied to Roger in unison that it was red, and Mita had never been to Zuo wu before, so I could only understand that there was also a piece of the Kingdom of Wano, and the point that confused me was that Miten returned to the Kingdom of Wano and did not go to find the red stone, could it be that he had memorized it? It is unlikely that they will have time to look at the main text of their conversation when they arrive in the land of Wano. There was another piece that Roger was talking about, which he roughly knew, probably referring to the one on Fishman Island. Or the other could be the one on Fishman Island that is now the land of Peace, and roger is referring to the one he probably knows is the one that is now missing, but that doesn't explain why Mita knows that the historical text of Zuo Wu is red. ）
This paragraph belongs to the gibberish after watching the confusion, in short, this post is still my first sentence, more like confusion.