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Interview 丨 Shi Baiyu: The one who weeps bitterly

author:The Paper

The Paper's reporter Yang Qian

"Actors Please Take Place 2" conference was noisy at the end, the surrounding staff was still busy, actor Shi Baiyu sat down in the preparation room, his eyes were calm and focused, so that the people on the other side ignored the noisy environment and entered his aura.

On the stage of the first performance of the show, Shi Baiyu was classified as an S-level actor (the highest level of market value), chose the script of "Young You", and partnered with Ren Min, who was also S-grade, to play Xiao Bei and Chen Nian in the police station pretending not to know each other. As soon as the clip was played, it was inevitable to notice that Shi Baiyu's Taiwanese accent was slightly awkward, but after a few minutes, he could selectively ignore this defect, and despite the difference in appearance, Shi Baiyu performed Xiao Bei's stubbornness and compassion, especially when he shouted at Chen Nian, "Roll!" Shi's appearance was completely unable to connect him with Mo Junjie in "Want to See You".

Due to being rated S, Shi Baiyu had the right to choose the script first, and almost did not see other roles, he chose Xiao bei. In fact, he did not think too much about the so-called risk of comparison, and the basic principle set for himself was "choose one who is more capable of his own ability", in this principle, Xiao Bei was the first choice, "When I was in "Young You", I especially liked Yi Qianxi's performance, and I felt that he could just awaken the more rebellious side of my heart. ”

Interview 丨 Shi Baiyu: The one who weeps bitterly

"Actors Please Seat 2" poster

Crashed for 21 days

"Rebellion" used to be a word that did not belong to Shi Baiyu.

At the beginning of June 2016, on the day of the final exam of the first year of Fu Jen University in Taipei, most of the students went to Internet cafes and ktv to celebrate the official start of the summer vacation, while Shi Baiyu, a student who likes basketball in the Department of Chemistry, could only silently go home to pack his bags and go to Beijing to start filming for the first time in his life. Previously, he signed up for the "Ilin Bright Star" competition model group held by Taiwan's Yilin Entertainment Company, and after being selected, he was considered more suitable to go to the acting group, which was the first acting job he was assigned.

Crashed. After 21 days in Beijing, Shi Baiyu collapsed for 21 days. The actors around him are all from the Chinese opera Nortel, about the same age, but Shi Baiyu is obviously lonely. "Anyway, when you look at it, you know that you are out of place, not that the state cannot be found, but that you don't know what the state is." During the day on the shooting scene, he didn't know if he was doing it right or not, whether it was good or not, the director only said" can be better, and then there is another one." "No one told Shi Baiyu, who was acting for the first time, how to be better. I cried when I went back to my hotel room at night, "I cried for 21 nights. "After crying, I thought, don't shoot, don't go tomorrow." The next morning he resisted getting up, resisted going out, but the production team would come knocking on the door and knocking until he got up, "I was woken up by knocking on the door every day." Maybe it was a grievance, I felt that I should go singing and playing games after the final exam. ”

It was a time that impressed him greatly. "The title of my article will not be 'Shi Baiyu's ups and downs' haha." He couldn't help but laugh at himself, "You see that I am happy now, in fact, maybe I will cry when I go home at night..."

It's not that I haven't thought about quitting, but "even if I thought about it (rebellious exit or outburst), I would feel like I had a pair of eyes staring at me in the dark." The eyes may be the company, or the field staff, or they may come from Shi Baiyu's heart. Even now he still thinks about quitting every day. After a few seconds of silence, Shi Baiyu spoke again, "But the soldiers will come to cover the water." That's life, right? ”

Interview 丨 Shi Baiyu: The one who weeps bitterly

"Want to See You" tidbits, Xu Guanghan, Ke Jiayi, Shi Baiyu

"Nothing in life is not painful"

Talking about life at the age of 24 is a bit anxious, but it is true that from a young age, Shi Baiyu is accustomed to the emotion of patience. He was born in Taiwan in 1996, his family works in the hospital, even if he is busy, he will take good care of him, go to private school, his parents have been driving, Shi Baiyu has never taken public transportation alone during his study, he is protected by his family, and he is the only son in the family, which is inevitably expected. In his memory, he did not even participate in the school club activities, every day after school was picked up, he went straight back to his room, do not talk to his parents more about the school and his life, "I will feel that they also have the pressure of their work, they come back to see my face is not very good, will be extra worried, for them is a greater burden, so I will feel better than to bear it alone." 」 ”

But in the juvenile period with the most obvious personality diversity, Shi Baiyu's patience did not escape the malice of his peers, and he once admitted in the program that he was bullied at school, and the process was tragic. In order not to worry his parents, he could only "hide in the quilt and cry at night." This part of the experience had a great impact on Shi Baiyu, until he was admitted to college, played basketball, and found a way to get along with the world around him, and the shadow gradually disappeared.

Interview 丨 Shi Baiyu: The one who weeps bitterly

Shi Baiyu confessed in "Actors Please Take Place 2" that he was bullied when he was a student.

Even if he is hurt, he is not willing to give others the slightest burden and negative energy, and Shi Baiyu cannot summarize what the specific source of this personality is. "There are too many factors that form, school education, family education, and the people around you, will affect a lifetime." Some of my classmates just encountered things and began to learn bad fights, and I may have gone to another life. And after the formation of personality, it is not that there is no chance to rebel, "Who doesn't want to have a good relationship? I've thought about eloping, but I'm not in a state that I'm going to let myself be like that. ”

A sentence said by Ke Jiayi is very useful to Shi Baiyu, "She said that being an actor is a happy thing, and you can vent well in different roles." "If there are 100 things in life, Shi Baiyu in reality may only be able to do 3 things, and the other 97 things, when acting, he has enough reasons to complete."

"You don't want to cry in real life, but because of a character, you can cry for a whole play, which is a rare thing." 」

Under the calm expression, Shi Baiyu did not hide pessimism, "Modern people are too depressed. I don't know how everyone is, but I'm depressed. ”

In some of the answers, paired with Shi Baiyu's calm and deep voice, it shows a sense of hopelessness. For example, "Maybe 10 years later, you see me digging a road on the side of the road, and you may not be able to do a takeaway brother." For another example, he has the habit of storing chicken soup for the soul in the memo of his mobile phone, and jokes with colleagues that it is convenient to accompany selfies at any time, but the tone is a kind of helplessness that "even if you know that it is chicken soup, you need them to cheer yourself up".

Of course, I am happier at work than when I was in school, because "I can finally decide half of my life", although the other half still belongs to the work team. Even though acting is a conduit for Shi Baiyu and can bring rebellious happiness that is not in reality, he still mentions the existence of pain, "There must still be pain, such as no time to rest." For example, he was initially sensitive and concerned about other people's opinions, and finally was asked to uninstall some platform software, not allowing him to look again.

After a pause, Shi Baiyu still rose to the dimension of "life", "In fact, there is nothing in life that is not painful, eating is very happy, and it is painful when you have to pay." Unless you die, the pain doesn't go away. ”

Interview 丨 Shi Baiyu: The one who weeps bitterly

Shi Baiyu in the rehearsal of "Actors Please Take Place 2".

"Mo Junjie can understand me"

Without "Want to See You", Shi Baiyu probably wouldn't have experienced the pain of not resting so quickly. In the play, the male number two Mo Junjie, played by him, is introverted and sensitive, and has only one friend, Li Ziwei, who has had a bad hearing since childhood, and is involved in the murder case of Xiao Chinese New Year's Eve because he likes Chen Yunru (Huang Yuxuan). Mo Junjie faces the choice of friendship and love in the play, including the choice of good and evil, and there are many moments of inner struggle. In this four-person story, Shi Baiyu interprets Mo Junjie, which has a unique charm different from Li Ziwei, accurate and moving.

"Mo Junjie wants to bear everything with a smile and swallow it into his heart." After the episode was broadcast, Shi Baiyu answered many questions about Mo Junjie, is it like this? How much is it like? He sorted out a conclusion: "If Mo Junjie really existed, I would be very good friends with him, and maybe even brothers." He can understand me, just as Mo Junjie can understand Chen Yunru. But are you saying how much I really resemble him? Not necessarily. Unlike that, Mo Junjie is not really pessimistic in his heart, which is partly the reason why Shi Baiyu prefers Xiao Bei, "He can do whatever he wants, he must maintain himself in an offensive state, and he can be very impulsive." Once Chen Nian was not by his side, it didn't matter if he could leave this world well, he was a very pessimistic person. ”

Interview 丨 Shi Baiyu: The one who weeps bitterly

Shi Baiyu played Mo Junjie in "Want to See You".

Shi Baiyu admitted that if he had the opportunity to act in a big work in the future, he would still want to choose the two roles of XiaoBei and Dongjiu (from the movie "My First-Class Brother") who performed two stage performances before "Actors Please Take Place 2". In addition, his interest in costume dramas, "the theme of costumes is another cultural background, you need to understand the habits and traditional culture of people in that era, it should be a very good new experience." Soon after becoming an actor, he did not have more specific criteria for the role he would choose in the future, but he "only did what he liked, because what kind of feelings he could bring to the audience and how he felt was the most important."

Ke Jiayi once wrote to Shi Baiyu on Instagram: "Don't clasp your hands, let go of your hands at the right time, and see what life will naturally float into your hands." Perhaps for Shi Baiyu now, this "chicken soup for the soul" can be recalled several times.

Interview 丨 Shi Baiyu: The one who weeps bitterly

Shi Baiyu, Xu Guanghan, Ke Jiayi

【Dialogue】

Trust your opponents, communicate, listen

The Paper: Why do you think you are qualified for the role of Xiaobei?

Shi Baiyu: It's not that I am competent, I like it more, and I want to challenge and try. Whether it is competent or not depends, of course, on the acceptance of the directors and the audience. But I'm very happy, it's really cool to play the bad guy... I remember that at that time, Brother Peng invited us to the front of the stage, because at that time, both Ren Min and ren were still in the atmosphere.

The Paper: In the process of acting, what are the difficulties to overcome?

Shi Baiyu: In fact, the first few times it is more difficult is the camera position, because it is between the middle of drama and film and television, it is possible that you are in this state, but the camera position cannot be brought, then you must readjust.

At the scene, the acting teacher asked our first sentence, do you want to go according to the original script? We thought that there was only one scene, and we had to show the whole story, including the structure of the script, which was really difficult. Before the performance, we didn't do anything, and the acting teacher let the two of us face each other for 15 minutes, watching each other chat in a corner, and we kept grinding with each other. In fact, what the original script is, I really don't remember clearly, our rehearsal and performance are completely different, the lines of each rehearsal are different, and it seems that the whole thing has changed later, she uses her way to act, I use my way to act, and I believe in each other. But the last time I performed, I still remember. It's a wonderful feeling.

Interview 丨 Shi Baiyu: The one who weeps bitterly

Shi Baiyu and Ren Min are in rehearsal.

The Paper: Do you like this kind of improvisation of believing in each other?

Shi Baiyu: Yes, I don't think you can cut too many details, you can't rehearse all the time, because in the end, there is actually no soul. Maybe I don't have so much experience, and I need to trust my opponents, communicate and listen. I prefer this way, and it just so happens that Ren Min is also helping me, constantly guiding the empathy of the two people.

The Paper: Since you started in the industry, have you thought of acting like this?

Shi Baiyu: This is just my current performance direction, in fact, I am constantly looking for direction, which way, I will choose to continue to go. There is no right or wrong in the performance, some people feel that they are going to shed tears at that second, have a established state of crying, a state of happiness, but everyone understands the method differently.

In fact, I didn't necessarily think so in the early days, and I don't know if it will change again. But at least I've performed twice so far, and I've had some audience recognition, and I like the direction I'm going in now.

The Paper: After the recording of "Actors Please Seat 2" for a while, has your view of performance changed?

Shi Baiyu: Yes. I think the word "empathy", although the directors have always spoken, but how to do it is really difficult, the directors have said a sentence, to the effect that "tears are not valuable", or "too many tears are not valuable". Because I myself am in that zero-sum state, I cry very miserably, cry like a child, otherwise I don't cry very much.

I thought about it for a long time when the director said it, because I think if you are really emotional, you will cry if you want to cry, and you can talk about it if you want to talk, but the directors may feel that at some points, you shed a little tear, or you smile, the audience's feelings will be very different, and it may be a matter of skill. This may be the difference between the director and the actor's perspective.

The Paper: What do you mean by this, in fact, you don't have a conclusion?

Shi Baiyu: Not yet. Like the last time I performed, there was an actor who played the brother of a brother who really couldn't help it, really wanted to cry, you said how to endure, because the emotions really arrived. But the directors will (ask you to control), and it's really hard. Maybe this is the way the director gives us a higher level of acting, so that we have more levels, how to deal with different levels of feelings, so far I have not been able to solve this "problem".

One of the biggest differences between the class performance and the non-class class is that the class will have a template, of course, the template must have something worth learning, but after learning it, it will be the best state to re-achieve the balance (template and self).

Interview 丨 Shi Baiyu: The one who weeps bitterly

Stills from "I Want to See You"

A good performance can convey the belief to everyone's heart

The Paper: When you first acted, did you think so much?

Shi Baiyu: Not really. But when listening to the directors' comments, I will think a lot, if I am acting in my current way, I will still cry out directly, is it to change the state to interpret the role. It is okay for me to learn at this stage that the director conveys the knowledge points, but it is difficult to suddenly improve in a short period of time. A lot of actors have made a few scenes, and they may feel a little bit of progress, and we are just a scene here.

The Paper: Do you trust your own feelings more or the feelings of others?

Shi Baiyu: Of course, it is your own feelings, but you must receive professional guidance. Like I just said, whether too many tears are worthless, this is a question I have never thought about, of course, I will still use my own feelings to perform, but a little bit of integration of the director's way, maybe it will be better for me.

The Paper: What do you think is a good performance at this stage?

Shi Baiyu: The belief that I want to convey can really be conveyed to everyone's heart, maybe after 5 or 10 years, everyone will remember such a thing, such a person.

Because when I see some of the more literary films, I see some more realistic themes, these people may not appear in the eyes of the public so often, but you can feel the story behind them, or the social issues they want to discuss. This is not an easy thing to do, and there may be a small group of people who are working hard for it. I think this is probably a direction I'll like.

The Paper: What are the films that have had a greater impact on you before you enter the industry?

Shi Baiyu: Handsome... Oh well asked about the film. In fact, when I first started to contact filming performances, I must want to be handsome, I want to be able to show my charm, and I have also had this stage, such as wanting to play basketball, wanting to use the things I like in performances, and there is such a handsome side for the audience to see. But when you slowly start to contact niche movies, or watch some niche films again, you start to have a different perspective, and you will stand on their (the main creator of niche films) and think for them, they are working hard for this matter. However, my relatively larger direction must still be "I just want to be handsome, I just want to charm others" (a serious book to charm everyone's look).

The Paper: ... So which niche movie influenced you?

Shi Baiyu: Each stage is different, and the more important thing is "The Juvenile Murder Incident on Muling Street".

(The silent staff next to it couldn't help but interject: This movie is not called a niche, but the age is different, and it is more inclined to be called a literary film.) )

Shi Baiyu: You asked the young people now, there should not be many people watching, this is called a niche. For example, some movies that have recently been broadcast in the Light Point Huashan Cinema (Taipei's Light Point Huashan Cinema, operated by the "Taiwan Film Culture Association" led by director Hou Hsiao-hsien, officially opened in November 2012 and often hold theme film festivals), because some films will not be on the big screen. I mean niche because they care about special or social themes, or because they shoot in a style that is less popular.

(Shi Baiyu and the staff struggled for three minutes about how to define a "niche movie"...) )

The Paper: Not from a science class, what was the main source of your ideas in the early days of your performance?

Shi Baiyu: A lot of movies. At least one movie a day, if it's a drama, two or three episodes. I have also taken some classes, but I am still looking for a more suitable way for myself, and I think watching movies is the most basic and easiest way to learn.

The Paper: After entering this industry, will the focus of watching movies be different?

Shi Baiyu: Obviously different. In the past, watching a film was just to see which place was funny, it was the feeling of watching a cool film, and now I want to think about acting and repeat some fragments at a certain point, in fact, I can't put myself into it to watch it. At one stage, I especially liked to watch certain segments of the performance repeatedly, like the recent Lee Joon Ki's "The Flower of Evil", and there were too many fragments to ponder, especially the monologue section. But this led to me not finishing the chase, and it was not necessarily a good thing.

The Paper: Will you record it after reading it?

Shi Baiyu: There will be. I used to write in a diary, about half a year ago. If you don't know what to write today, just write a sentence.

The Paper: Did habits grow up or did they?

Shi Baiyu: After work. For a while you will suddenly want to change a life form, just like you may say that I will go to bed early tomorrow and get up early, and after a week, you will feel that it is better to sleep until you wake up naturally.

The Paper: Do you feel like you want to remember your current self when you write a diary, or do you want to use it to improve your learning?

Shi Baiyu: I want to see how I change after half a year, or what I was doing during that time? Later it may be that I ran out of time and I was not motivated. I have a lot of chicken soup for the soul in the memo of my mobile phone, and whenever there is a need to post, take a selfie, and I have a good text of chicken soup for the soul. I also love to create and put two sentences together, because one sentence is plagiarism, so you have to put two sentences together, that is, "Shi Baiyu", or "quoted from Shi Baiyu" (a serious face).

Interview 丨 Shi Baiyu: The one who weeps bitterly

Actors Please Seat 2 character poster

Want to be a takeaway guy

The Paper: Did you decide to step into the industry because someone else pushed you, or did you want to say that I would be an actor?

Shi Baiyu: The plan can't keep up with the changes. If I really meet it, I will slowly accept it, and then look at whether I like it or not, what I accept at present is like. The main thing is that I feel that I can convey some beliefs, and I have always felt that beliefs are very important. Modern people think they are too depressed.

The Paper: I also feel quite depressed.

Shi Baiyu: Then let's perform together, let's go!

The Paper: ... In fact, the actor will hear many staff members praise you for being handsome, and fans will say that you are very handsome with your hair. It's also rare to hear an actor your age say it's very depressing.

Shi Baiyu: Really? I haven't been praised...

The Paper: Are your own interests in developing cosmetics and perfumes?

Shi Baiyu: It was just a dream. I may not have that time today, but if I have the opportunity, I will do it, after all, I am still studying my major.

The Paper: Now you can rebel and suddenly change your life, who do you want to change?

Shi Baiyu: Take out the little brother.

The Paper: Is it because I read that long story?

Shi Baiyu: No, now you suddenly ask me this question, I really want to do this now, I want to see how many orders I can run a day, I want to really experience it.

The Paper: Are you caring, or are you curious about their lives?

Shi Baiyu: It's not curiosity, it's just that I want to feel it. Of course, at the beginning, it is out of curiosity that you want to contact, but after contact, you may feel very disliked, and you may be moved by it. Just like intellectual disabilities, people may think that you have to care about these vulnerable groups, but after you really contact them, you will find that the people around them who should be thanked and helped the most are the relatives, friends, brothers and sisters, in fact, they are the most tired. Everyone just thinks it's painful to say that intellectual disability, you want to observe and feel it, you want to help them. But who are you actually feeling empathy for? It's actually their parents.

The Paper: If you never had the opportunity to be an actor at all, what job would you be inclined to?

Shi Baiyu: Office worker. Because I want to live a regular life, I clock in every day from nine to five, a stable life, I can have a meal with my colleagues after work, I can take two days off on holidays, and I can receive a pension after retirement. I don't have a so-called holiday now, nor do I have a so-called off-work meal.

The Paper: Do you like a stable life?

Shi Baiyu: Like, who wouldn't like it.

The Paper: In the future, if there are really many fans, will their remarks affect you when choosing the script? Or mind if you're male number one or male number two.

Shi Baiyu: Can't influence me, even if there are a lot of fans, this can be handed over to the company, I only do what I like.

The Paper: Recommend a favorite movie you've watched recently.

Shi Baiyu: I probably understood "Creed". Many people around me can't understand it and want to tell them, but they don't know how to tell it. Life is the same, in fact, it will not really understand, but probably can have some feelings, think that life is like this, but do you really understand, who knows.

Editor-in-charge: Cheng Yu

Proofreader: Yan Zhang

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