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Interview | Chen Minghao, who can't be caught

Qianjiang Evening News Hourly News Reporter Ma Li Correspondent He Xiaoting Guo Nan

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At 11 o'clock that night, coming out of the backstage of the Hangzhou Grand Theater, Chen Minghao felt like a chair.

It was the evening of November 2018, and the tour of "TeaHouse" directed by Meng Jinghui ended in Hangzhou.

He walked out the door and a car was parked outside—click—got in the car—and loaded it into the car. Really, you are no different from a chair, so you load it on the car and transport it to Hengdian.

He was transported to Hengdian to shoot "Restart the Extreme Sea Listening to Thunder". In 2017, "Sand Sea" started, he made his first relationship with Wang Fatzi, and also released the first single "Wang Fatzi". A year later, shortly after the broadcast of "Sand Sea", "Notes on the Tomb Robber" was restarted, and he once again became Wang Fatzi in "Restarting the Extreme Sea Listening to Thunder".

Interview | Chen Minghao, who can't be caught

Stills from "The Teahouse"

No, no, no. The chair in the car thought, this is not ok.

As the car drove along, he saw a lamb restaurant on the side of the road, and the lights were still on.

Hungry, eat.

At three or four o'clock in the morning, the chair arrived in Hengdian, and it was five months after one shot.

For drama worker Chen Minghao, filming film and television dramas is such a state. It does not belong to itself, but it is a kind of stability, chair-like stability.

On January 22, 2020, he returned to Hangzhou, and the dog brother named Laifu, who loved the little duck and longed for a distant place, returned. The first version of "Opinions on the Life of Two Dogs" returned to Hangzhou - 17 years ago, he and Liu Xiaoye played Laifu and Wangcai, who were the initiators and premieres of this work. For 17 years, this pair of dog brothers and dog brothers had few opportunities to "go to the city" at the same time. Especially the dog brother Chen Minghao.

- Thank you all for coming to the Hangzhou Grand Theatre on this wet night to see our performance.

- This is my home.

- It's rare that the two of us play together, two actors, two rising stars.

The two wore masks and opened the scene improvised, returning to the familiar smell.

In the first performance, he sang "Flower Room Girl" in the play and changed the words: I am going back to my theater, I can't do without my little duck, I can't do without my ideals.

At the end of the curtain, Liu Xiaoye wanted to hand him the flowers sent by the audience, but he did not answer, hid on the side of the stage, leaving the visual center, only Liu Xiaoye stood in the light, and the audience who was slowly dispersing, Amway he was about to record "Drama New Life" in Wuzhen.

"Love drama, love uncle three, love imagination." Chen Minghao thanked the audience.

Finally, the chair returned to another state, probably just legs, backrests, countless incomplete parts, but that was himself.

Interview | Chen Minghao, who can't be caught

The original version of "Opinions on the Life of Two Dogs" Chen Minghao and Liu Xiaoye

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In the news, Chen Minghao acted from the age of 30 to the age of 41. Many people watch the original "Two Dogs" again, and it has been more than a decade.

They will still be amused by them – news headlines still like to use "**laughs and **applause' to describe the phenomenon and vitality of this work. The old audience was drowned in the audience, no longer picking up every laugh point, but they could tell which ones were me and which were me more than a decade ago.

Some people said that they were glad to see two old dogs at the age of 40.

"You've been for more than ten years, and how many things have to happen to everyone in more than ten years." Chen Minghao looked at me.

On the message board in the hall of the Hangzhou Grand Theatre, the keyword that appears the most is not Laifu, but Fat Ye.

Interview | Chen Minghao, who can't be caught

Hangzhou Grand Theatre Hall Message Board

Over the years, Chen Minghao's frequency of appearing in film and television dramas has increased. First starred in "Sand Sea" and "Restart the Extreme Sea Listening to Thunder", last year, partners Zhou Dongyu and Liu Haoran cooperated in the movie "Moses on the Plain", and then cooperated with Sun Li in "Ideal City", during which he also made cameo appearances in the movie "Everything About My Mother" starring Xu Fan and Zhang Jingyi. But the one who gained the most fans was the role of Wang Fatzi.

Interview | Chen Minghao, who can't be caught

At 4:40 p.m., in the theater hall, a girl was carrying a flower basket, and there were ten of them.

Are you a fan of Chen Minghao?

yes.

811 fans?

Her T-shirt has 811 printed on it.

No, it's his birthday.

At the Premiere In Hangzhou, the Third Uncle of the Southern Sect was also in the audience.

"He said it was fine, he said half an hour is not enough, how can you still be so for two hours... He was going to tell me to eat at the end, but later said, let's not eat, have a good rest. He thought it would be nice if I could walk back haha. ”

Interview | Chen Minghao, who can't be caught

Hangzhou performance, the third uncle of the southern party sent a flower basket

On this day, another drama was performed in Hangzhou.

"There's a star, isn't there?" He said.

On the day of the performance, "Drama New Life" was broadcasting. In the play, two dogs come to town, and Rifle improvises—

Have you ever participated in a variety show?

I'm participating now. Wangcai asked: Do you participate in variety shows?

Don't go, don't go.

We asked about the show, "Let's not talk about this, it's on the air." ”

But speaking of the Wuzhen Theater Festival, which was suspended last year, "I feel that my heart has no place to go, empty, because in the second half of every year, you seem to know that you should go there, drink some wine, and talk to friends." ”

In April 2018, "Opinions on the Life of Two Dogs" ushered in 2,000 commemorative performances, and Chen Minghao also returned. That day, he touched his heart and said that he was very nervous, the pants that should not have fallen were ready to fall at any time, the wheat that should not have fallen fell countless times, he got off the audience three times, sprinkled water three times, sang three or four songs, slapped countless slaps, fanned until he was tired, someone must think he was crazy, even if he was an actor, this is too crazy.

However, people are waiting for Chen Minghao's madness, waiting for him to play this time, waiting for his overwhelm, waiting for him to "self-destruct", fragmented, how comfortable and how to come, just like watching him invite friends to eat hot pot and chat on the stage of "Karaoke Pig", in Wuzhen from midnight to early morning "From Early Morning to Midnight", people say that this play is too bad, but I like it. Some people say that "Tea House" has only been truly completed since Chen Minghao became the protagonist.

Just like this evening dressing room, 50 minutes, his language state can not form a "normal" manuscript, no "story", no purpose, his thoughts are floating, like feathers in the air, you go to grasp, the air flow in the air, it is off topic.

So, don't try to catch Chen Minghao.

【Dialogue】

Qianjiang Evening News: Many people are rushing to the original version, especially Chen Minghao's return to play Laifu, before watching "Two Dogs" again. For example, it's been about ten years since I last watched it. After 14 years, what kind of existence is this work for you?

Chen Minghao: As an actor, there is such a play of his own, which must be very special. This play is equivalent to self-arrangement, beyond the most basic creative rules of the actor, and at that time it was a very bold, quite disregarded, quite mixed up an unconventional creation.

I think everything is determined by will. At that time, there was a very strong willingness - as an actor, without any text and anything else, including without the support of the director, the actor himself used his body, through his experience, a long period of experience, and did not know when to perform, to create - there was no such thing as wanting to perform, we lined up, slowly gathered these energies together, and then found director Meng Jinghui, saying that we are going to arrange such a play, you have to help us get it. We were two weak actors at that time, (Meng Jinghui) studio helped us get this play, realized our dream, the dream was done for more than ten years, it was also quite magical, very wonderful.

Including you telling me, you have been ten years, you think about it, how many things have to go through in this decade, in fact, we are all the same, we are together in time, with more than ten years of life, or physical, mental growth.

Interview | Chen Minghao, who can't be caught

The original version of "Opinions on the Life of Two Dogs" is Liu Xiaoye and Chen Minghao

Qianjiang Evening News: Needless to say, what is the growth of the mind?

Chen Minghao: It must be more determined, maybe more relaxed. Calm, because the heart is more numbered - this life is like this, the relationship between drama and you, is to live a life, is to accompany you until old age. At that time, there was still a force, that force was very sharp, it could cut through a lot of things, but you weren't sure what it was, what it meant to you, it was just that the body had this energy that it didn't control, you couldn't control it. You don't have to use it here anyway, you have to use it there. If you use it somewhere else, you might still be causing trouble, right?

Qianjiang Evening News: This work should be regarded as a starting point for the two of you to create.

Chen Minghao: I didn't think about it, just saying that Xiao Ye and I have known each other for a long time. When I was in school, in the same grade, he was in the directing department and I was in the acting department. He was an actor in their class, he was acting in tandem, too busy to come, after acting in this play to play the next one, I said why? He said that because of acting, he did not need to change props, and later found that changing clothes was more troublesome than changing props.

We didn't have a lot of exchanges in school, he just graduated, he came to our college to rehearse a play, began to establish this exchange, and then another play directed by Meng Jinghui, the bottom of the drink and chat, talk about performance, stage, life and so on. I said, you're quite talented, he said, you're also quite talented, I said let's just get it together, line up something. At that time, unlike now, no one looked for us to shoot movies and television, that time was less, in fact, it was better than now, and there were fewer actors, right? If you want to make a movie, you go and get close to someone, you may really have this opportunity. But the brain didn't think about it, it wanted to do something it wanted to do, it wanted to do something fun, it was interesting.

Qianjiang Evening News: In the past, you made less film and television, but there were more in the past two years, why?

Chen Minghao: I haven't made a film or television drama for up to 10 years. Because you don't have time to do anything else because you do this thing (drama), right? Isn't that what people do? There is so much time, plus it is quite lazy, or want to rest, rest in order to empty themselves, in order to have a very real motivation to create, rather than saying that you have to rehearse a play, you have to go to a play.

But when I say that kind of rest, I mean that you do something based on your feelings, read a book, stay, and do something that you don't usually dare to think about when you don't have time. For example, if you think about something strange and suddenly find that something has nothing to do with your drama, such as science, a phenomenon, you have to think about it, you have to spend some time.

For example, the stars. Yes, there are some that suddenly attract you, you are too busy to pay attention, you think the stars are the stars, the moon is the moon, in fact it will make you think of yourself. When you feel lonely, the moon gives you a different feeling, and you will think of many of your own states, some problems, these problems may not be solved, but you have to know.

Qianjiang Evening News: What kind of problems do you think you have?

Chen Minghao: People have problems.

Reporter: What is your problem?

Chen Minghao: What the hell are you doing? Who are you? Why are you doing this? Do you really like it? Do you like it or need it? There are many such problems, and I think people don't think about these things for no reason, but it must be in a special situation to feel themselves. You see? Did you watch it yesterday?

Qianjiang Evening News: I think you are more free on the stage than before, many people are waiting for Chen Minghao's "disorder", how do you see your state on the stage?

Chen Minghao: Haha asked again, where can I see my state on the stage. From the beginning, I didn't feel like acting like anything was a goal for me, I just found a sense of stage.

I have to be comfortable on this stage, I am comfortable, I can bring together the energy of these literatures, the energy of the director, including the dance, the lighting, the music, and the energy of the opponent actors, and then share it with the audience, in order to gather this thing, boo, compress it into a bullet, and then hit it.

Of course this is the wish. The stage is actually very dangerous, just like in your life, you get up in the morning to go to work, or to meet a friend, you may feel that you are not in a good state, which is normal.

I think the only thing I can do is to accept these impermanences in the face of it. The body is an actor's tool, and it often jokes with you, sometimes not entirely at your disposal. The drama actor is not so simple, relatively complex, he does not practice for a few hours a day, he has to have muscle memory or something. We always feel that these things of life, or rather, these things that you unconsciously capture, may also be very important. If you do this, you can't do that.

Qianjiang Evening News: Over the years, in addition to actors, I have also done directing, just like you said at the end of the curtain that day: love imagination. Imagination is a particularly important thing for you, and it is not something that can be grasped, how do you see your imagination.

Chen Minghao: It is a reaction. There is a thing that restricts you, limits your body, your freedom, sometimes you have no way, you can't reach it, you can only rely on flying thinking, to go to that unknown place.

This may have something to do with the fact that when I was a child, my family was more strict with me. My parents didn't do this either, they were both science and engineering, more rigorous, dogmatic, and depressing. So that would be watching cartoons and enjoyed it for me. For example, watching "Tom and Jerry" or something, it is particularly comfortable.

Sometimes before going to bed, the curtains are closed, a little moonlight shines in, lying down, there will be a lot of strange ideas in my head, at that time, I think, I can still think, quite talented, whenever this time, I fall asleep peacefully.

Interview | Chen Minghao, who can't be caught

Qianjiang Evening News: For example, works like "From Early Morning to Midnight" are liked by people who like it, and people who hate it are very annoying. In the creation, is it also the state you just said?

Chen Minghao: Quite willful. Thinking of something has to be like that. But if you feel that you can't walk, you will resolutely stop.

But my initial feeling should be quite accurate - no, not accurate, I can't say accurately, otherwise this thing will become very technical again. It should be said that my initial feeling is very important, very important, even if it may become something else, but it also grows.

The script of "From Early Morning to Midnight", which I liked when I was in college, tried to rehearse several times, but did not. At that time, I wanted to play that role, lined up in Wuzhen, the courage was getting bigger and bigger, and I was getting more and more familiar with Wuzhen, I said no, I had to line up a horizontal. What is horizontal? I said I had to act for one night.

I can't say why, anyway, I think so, I don't know what it is, I don't know what it is arranged, and I don't know who to cooperate with. If I have that feeling psychologically, the feeling is particularly strong, I dare to get it, nothing else counts, you really found me a bunch of money, I don't dare to line up, what if the row is smashed?

Qianjiang Evening News: So during this time, I don't know if anyone has come to ask you, why don't you go to variety shows more? On the stage that day, you yourself improvised a bit.

Chen Minghao: (Laughs) Because Xiao Ye is here, if he is not there, I don't know if he will say it. I'm not a particular person on a show, and variety shows aren't that good for me.

Qianjiang Evening News: What did you do last year?

Chen Minghao: I didn't do anything, I earned some money and went to filming. I made the TV series "Ideal City" in Shanghai, and there are two small movies, and I haven't done anything that I created myself. These are other people's businesses, they are helping others.

Interview | Chen Minghao, who can't be caught

Qianjiang Evening News: You have cooperated with the three uncles of the Southern Sect for two editions of "Restart", and many people like your fat man and gain a lot of fans. What is the difference between you who shoot TV series and stage?

Chen Minghao: TV dramas and stages are completely different. From a performance point of view, one is live. Let's not say that the scale of the performance is big or small, the performance of the stage, this matter has nothing to do with others, the performance is the ultimate explanation of the actor.

No matter what you do in film and television, the decision is not in your final finished product and presentation, you are just a material, and finally you are still directing. The director does not cut, give you how to cut, your words can still be matched, when you speak is not empty shot shake away or something, you this shot to pick up, including your emotions, this is not the actor can decide, the role of the performance is not the same. Plus the environment in which you created. So, that side (film and television) may be more important to me.

After performing "Tea House" in Hangzhou, I was transported to Hengdian and filmed for 5 months. It's not the same as the show. You're tired, you adjust during the day and lie at home. And here, after returning from the shooting, I fainted on the bed, and someone knocked on the door and then filmed again. After being transported away, there was no rest for half a year, it was that state, occasionally resting for a day or two. You think, there are still so many scenes that have not been filmed. Sometimes, a notice is often issued saying that tomorrow weyah will be hung, and one day will be hung. As soon as I listened, I had a fear of heights, and I was afraid again.

Qianjiang Evening News: Talking about "Tea House", whether in China or abroad, this is a controversial work.

Chen Minghao: In Avignon, I can still feel the enthusiasm of the audience, this is the first time that Chinese drama has appeared in the in unit, I think it may be the concept of Chinese drama - although we can't represent the state of all Chinese drama, it is a very strong voice. We are still very confident about this.

The play was performed 10 times on the stage of Avignon. Their theater was short at the time, I remember whether it was 20 centimeters short or how much, the scene could not be put in, could not be turned, and then they picked the top.

We ("The Tea House") have come to what position, we don't know, anyway, we gathered a lot of energy, together to do a lot of thinking and trying, presented, we ourselves are quite satisfied anyway, on their own this point is not ambiguous.

Qianjiang Evening News: What was the reaction of the local audience to this Chinese work?

Chen Minghao: There are a lot of things, and they may not be able to say it very clearly, but they can feel this kind of strength, the force that comes to them, they may not be able to see it very well, and there are many people in the domestic audience who can't understand it, and they are the same, but they feel that it is not important.

He felt that the understanding of that meaning was not as important as the infection he had received from the spiritual level, which made him think that there might be another dimension to life. What these people have experienced, they have such strength, and this collision has occurred on the scene, which makes them think of a lot of their own things, life and future. I feel that no matter where I am, a lot of theatrical creations I am doing now and in the future, this is what I focus on and I think is important.

Interview | Chen Minghao, who can't be caught

"The Tea House" ends, Meng Jinghui and Chen Minghao

Qianjiang Evening News: You have cooperated with director Meng Jinghui since you graduated, and until now, what is the most profound influence of Director Meng on you, or the collision between the two of you.

Chen Minghao: Yes, [he] is definitely irreplaceable, and then it is continuous fermentation.

Aesthetically, the attitude towards drama, when encountering difficulties, be a little firmer. Sometimes people will definitely have some doubts, such as he is a director, I am a bystander or an actor, and he must hold on when things happen, no matter what way. At this time, I will believe in him, and I must believe in him.

So, when I was a director, I had to set up the field. I know that sometimes there may be some psychological problems, and you have to carry it and give faith to all the people, these people who come for you. You will find that, suddenly, this is actually part of the creation, a process, or a director he must have.

Is it ability? Or, is it a responsibility? Very good. So there is no pleasure of being a director, doing too many things, foreign directors are not so tired, I think Chinese directors are so tired, everything has to be managed, who has a bad relationship, to maintain; sometimes the meal is not good, I said, can you be happy eating this? Improvement Improvement. I paid for it myself. I think everything has to be managed.

In fact, I have no ambitions until now, in directing. I still have a lot of pursuit in acting. But I always forgot, well the scar forgot the pain - suddenly there was a thought, eh, how to have an idea, do it, just do it. After doing it - why is it so annoying, what did you think at the time, will it be bad to rest at home? Every time.

Qianjiang Evening News: There are a lot of uneasy and questioning things in you, and now I seem to feel more determined.

Chen Minghao: There will definitely be uneasiness and doubt in the firmness. Beauty without pain and tears, not true beauty.

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