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In 2018, a TV show called "Cross Talk with Newcomers" became popular, not because the show itself was so innovative, but because of a special pair of contestants - two doctoral couples from Shanghai Jiao Tong University, they came to the stage with their self-created "formula cross talk", and they were full of confidence as soon as they came up, as if the championship had been in the bag.
Unexpectedly, their innovative attempts were not only not recognized, but were mercilessly eliminated by the famous cross talk actor Guo Degang.
This is good, Mr. Doctor directly "opened the microphone" on the spot, and said to Guo Degang: "Today you ignore me, tomorrow I will make you unclimbable!" This matter exploded on the Internet.
As the incident became bigger and bigger, the doctor of Jiaotong University finally apologized to everyone on the Internet, but he was not completely convinced, explaining that he was "crazy" because the program team did not inform Guo Degang in advance that he was a judge, and also revealed that his cross talk creativity was affirmed by another cross talk celebrity, Jiang Kun, who was unwilling to be eliminated, so he made a bold statement, saying that he would go to the Spring Festival Gala for 20 consecutive years, so everyone could see his strength.
However, some netizens don't buy it, thinking that this doctor is using Guo Degang's fame to hype himself, it has been so long, and he keeps taking it out to fry cold rice, and his motives are suspicious.
Later, Guo Degang officially responded to this matter for the first time in front of the media.
He confessed that he really couldn't understand the "formula cross talk" of the doctoral couple, and he couldn't even understand the books they sent, and jokingly asked: "Is it possible for anyone to come and play, and to become a role without some basic skills?" Guo Degang emphasized that respecting traditional art is fundamental, and the cross talk world cannot be turned into a place where anyone can fool around.
As soon as these words came out, they won the approval of many netizens, and everyone felt that Guo Degang was right, and the set of doctors of Jiaotong University was indeed not enough to promote the level.
01 Li Hongye and his wife: Cross-border cross talk from Xueba
Li Hongye, a native of Tianjin, was deeply influenced by his father, and since he was a child, he showed the excellent characteristics of "other people's children", and his academic performance has always been among the best, and he was finally admitted to Shanghai Jiao Tong University as he wished.
And this university has become a key juncture in his life.
Li Hongye has had a strong interest in the art of cross talk since he was a child, and whenever he encounters a book or performance related to cross talk, he will always stop and enjoy it.
After learning that the university had a cross talk club, he did not hesitate to join it.
With the sensitivity and talent of a scholar, Li Hongye's comprehension in the field of cross talk is also rapid.
Soon after joining the club, he successfully ran for the president of the school's cross talk association, and devoted most of his spare time to it.
During this period, he met Zheng Yu, a younger sister who also loves cross talk, and the two had similar interests and eventually became a couple.
At the school celebration party, Li Hongye and basketball superstar Yao Ming shared the stage and performed a cross talk sketch created by him, which was a great success, and Yao Ming also highly affirmed his cross talk talent.
Despite this, Li Hongye did not regard cross talk as the direction of his career development at that time, until the encouragement of a classmate ignited his enthusiasm for the cross talk career.
After graduation, Li Hongye co-founded a cross talk company with his wife Zheng Yu and put forward the controversial concept of "formula cross talk".
In 2018, they were invited to participate in the program "Cross Talk with Newcomers", and the judge was Guo Degang, a leader in the cross talk industry.
On the stage for the first time, Li Hongye and his wife seemed quite conceited, not only giving away their three cross talk books, but also hinting that Guo Degang might find it difficult to understand the content.
When Guo Degang said that he didn't know much about the two, Li Hongye showed surprise and dissatisfaction, and even provoked Guo Degang with words like "You ask Yu Qian to know me".
Guo Degang responded in a humorous way, implying that Yu Qian knew such a person as a pure blind job.
Although Li Hongye and his wife lack respect for Guo Degang in words and deeds, the cross talk stage speaks with works after all.
They brought the original cross talk "Romantic Couple", hoping to show the charm of "formula cross talk".
The performance process was a big disappointment, not only did there be no laughter, the plot was stiff, and even the burden was extremely embarrassing, and the audience and backstage players reacted coldly.
According to the judges, their works are like machines, lacking emotional investment and character substitution, and cannot touch people's hearts.
Faced with such a performance, Li Hongye and his wife were finally eliminated.
In the face of failure, instead of reflecting on his own problems, Li Hongye pointed the finger at Guo Degang, thinking that the other party was deliberately embarrassed, and even said that he "regretted coming to Guo Degang's team".
Guo Degang responded calmly, pointing out that the success of cross talk lies in whether it can attract the audience to pay to watch, criticizing Li Hongye for being too superstitious about "formula cross talk" and ignoring the importance of emotion in cross talk performances.
Li Hongye also put down cruel words before leaving, threatening to have a chance to replace Guo Degang in the future.
After the show was broadcast, Li Hongye and his wife quickly became popular on the Internet because of their arrogant attitude and poor performance in the show, but this popularity was dominated by negative images and was called "black and red" by netizens.
To sum up, Li Hongye and his wife crossed the cross talk from Xueba, although they put forward the innovative concept of "formula cross talk", but they failed to win recognition in practice, especially in the confrontation with Guo Degang, they were criticized for their arrogant attitude and mediocre works, and finally became popular but became "black and red".
Their experiences remind us that no matter what field you are in, respecting your peers, dedicating yourself to your work, and being humble are the keys to success.
02 Dr. Li Hongye and his wife's words and deeds were reversed with "no one in their eyes".
The heated discussion caused by Dr. Li Hongye and his wife because of "formula cross talk", whether it is for or against, has undoubtedly brought them unprecedented high exposure.
Just when they were immersed in the joy of growing fame, the scene of "no one in sight" in the past in the program "I'm a Comedy Maniac" was dug up, which once again caused an uproar in public opinion.
On the show, Li Hongye appeared with his wife, and in the face of the judges' questions from Miao Fu, he did not answer directly, but took the opportunity to show off the three books he had written, and offered to "lend" them to the judges to read.
Especially when Miao Fu mentioned one of them, Li Hongye "generously" said that he would give him the one he wrote during his master's degree, because "I guess you can still understand it".
As soon as this remark came out, netizens interpreted it as Li Hongye being satirizing Miao Fu's low cultural level.
In the face of Li Hongye's "provocation", Miao Fu did not show weakness.
He admits that he doesn't study much formulas, but as a Ph.D. in Chinese language and literature, his cultural heritage is beyond doubt.
In order to prove himself, Miao Fu improvised a "penetration" on the spot, integrating his cross talk experience and theory, and effectively countering Li Hongye's one-sided view of the relationship between academic qualifications and cross talk ability, which won wide appreciation from the audience.
On the other hand, Li Hongye was violently attacked by netizens for his slightly contemptuous words of "I guess you can still understand", and his image suffered a heavy blow.
This incident is yet another reminder that while academic qualifications are important, respect for others, humility and solid professional skills are the true measures of a person's worth.
Dr. Li Hongye and his wife still need more cultivation and precipitation on the road of cross talk, in order to win real respect and recognition.
03 Li Hongye's road to "formula cross talk".
Before Li Hongye confronted Guo Degang and caused a storm of public opinion, he actually quietly did a big thing.
Just a month before he appeared on the stage of "Cross Talk with Newcomers", he broke into the scene of "Entrepreneurial Heroes" with his "New Cross Talk" project.
The couple first performed a cross talk, and then promoted their "cross talk formula", in fact, their little abacus in their hearts is very clear - they hope to sell 10% of the company's equity in exchange for 2 million investment funds.
Fortunately, their novel concept really won the favor of investors and successfully got an investment of 2 million, which undoubtedly gave Li Hongye a shot in the arm and burst with self-confidence.
But confidence alone is not enough, you have to strike while the iron is hot and quickly increase your popularity.
So, a month later, on the stage of "Cross Talk with Newcomers", the scene of "positive rigidity" with Guo Degang was staged.
On the stage, Li Hongye seemed full of confidence and looked determined to win, while Guo Degang, who has always been eloquent, seemed to be conceding a little bit intentionally or unintentionally, perhaps, Lao Guo was already aware of Li Hongye's intentions.
Guo Degang bluntly said that the real success is to be able to perform on stage, so that the audience is willing to pay for tickets, that is the success of cross talk.
When Li Hongye heard this, he immediately climbed up the pole and said that as long as there is investment, he can hold a special session immediately.
Guo Degang shook his head directly, saying that he didn't dare to take this risk, what if he lost it?
This back and forth is actually the real "trick" of the two.
Although the "Doctor and Wife" failed to win the competition, they became "popular" because of it, and this is probably the effect that Li Hongye wants to achieve.
In any case, with the help of this turmoil, he gained popularity and successfully made himself famous, and Li Hongye's goal was achieved.
04 Li Hongye challenged traditional cross talk, but Jiang Kun supported it but was counterattacked
Soon after releasing the cruel words, Li Hongye appeared on the stage of "China Cross Talk Sketch Competition".
Although his performance has not improved significantly from before, Jiang Kun has given a positive assessment of him and his "formula cross talk", believing that it is a new exploration worthy of praise, in stark contrast to Guo Degang's negative attitude.
While praising Li Hongye, Jiang Kun also aroused doubts from the outside world, because he had supported Miao Fu, Jin Yan, Ma Chunran and others who had conflicts with Guo Degang in the past, so that some people thought that his support for Li Hongye was intentionally aimed at Guo Degang.
Especially when it comes to the inheritance and development of cross talk, Jiang Kun still lent a helping hand to Li Hongye and his formula cross talk, and the relationship between the two quickly warmed up, and it seems that they are close.
In the eyes of most people, Jiang Kun's approval of Li Hongye's formula cross talk seems to be in order to contradict Guo Degang, after all, the recognition of formula cross talk in the industry is not high.
The three books published by Li Hongye - "Campus Cross Talk", "The Finite Element of Cross Talk", and "Logical Funny Record" did not have much impact on the market, and many people were puzzled by this, and they didn't understand why the highly educated Li Hongye would choose the road of cross talk.
According to Li Hongye's own statement, he was able to write 4 cross talks at the age of 11, and at the age of 17, he started campus cross talk in college, implying that he was a genius in the cross talk industry.
He regards himself as a maxima, and Jiang Kun is undoubtedly his Bole.
Subsequently, Li Hongye attended the congress of the Shanghai Music Association as a member, which meant that Jiang Kun officially recognized the formula cross talk and decided to give Li Hongye support.
In a short period of time, Li Hongye successfully stepped into the mainstream cross talk world.
Feeling the love of the "cross talk master" Jiang Kun, Li Hongye worked harder to promote his "formula cross talk".
More and more people came to Li Hongye's theater to see the charm of "formula cross talk"; some parents even sent their children here, hoping that the children could quickly master the knowledge of cross talk.
With the increase in popularity, Li Hongye has also made a lot of money.
Driven by interests, Li Hongye's mentality and behavior have changed.
In order to pave the way for his own new language cross talk, he openly belittled stand-up comedy in public; when clarifying that he did not worship Jiang Kun as a teacher, he compared Jiang Kun to a "trash can" in his words, which made Jiang Kun, who had been optimistic and promoted him, very hurt.
Since then, Li Hongye has once again fallen into an isolated and helpless situation in the cross talk world, but he has not flinched because of this, and continues to grope his way forward on the road of cross talk.
05 Controversy, porcelain encounters and self-help from failure
Guo Degang once succinctly pointed out that one of the criteria for testing the success of cross talk actors is whether they can successfully hold a cross talk special.
In this regard, Li Hongye and his wife decided to give it a go and chose to hold their own cross talk special on Guo Degang's former stage.
The reality poured cold water on them: there were only a handful of audiences present, the performance effect was unsatisfactory, and there was even an embarrassing situation of ticket refunds halfway, and the bleak scene was enough to explain everything.
Faced with the recession of the cross talk career and the pressure of the life of a family of four, Li Hongye and his wife did not choose to remain silent, but found another way and pointed the finger at Guo Degang again.
They frequently made remarks against Guo Degang on online platforms, and even made a series of video collections around Guo Degang, and did not forget to bring Guo Degang and his Deyun Club during the live broadcast, and sometimes ridiculed them.
This behavior made netizens gradually see through their intentions - using Guo Degang's popularity as a means to attract attention, in an attempt to increase their exposure.
Guo Degang once reminded that it is difficult to have good results by relying on grandstanding, and real success comes from real talent and real learning.
After Li Hongye and his wife gained a certain amount of attention with the help of the "black and red" strategy, they tried to release a clarification video, claiming that the conflict in the previous show was only the effect of the program, and even justified that their cross talk works were popular on the spot, but they were mistaken by post-editing.
They tried to win sympathy as victims, but netizens didn't buy it, pointing out that they confused the difference between "laughter" and "ridicule", pointing out that their cross talk was not really recognized.
What's even more eye-catching is that Li Hongye once publicly stated after the elimination that his formula cross talk and Guo Degang's traditional cross talk are two levels of art, and even satirized that listeners who like Guo Degang's cross talk have low taste, and those who can appreciate their formula cross talk are people with noble taste.
This kind of remarks undoubtedly angered the audience, making people question when cross talk was also divided into three, six, nine and so on, does it mean that people who do not have a certain level of education are not qualified to appreciate cross talk?
It was these inappropriate remarks and failed public relations tactics that made Li Hongye and his wife the object of ridicule.
They tried to find excuses for their failures, but these excuses were too harsh, not only did not win sympathy, but only intensified public disgust, dooming them to be isolated on the road to cross talk.
06 Li Hongye resisted pressure and finally faded out of sight
When Guo Degang heard about Li Hongye's various operations, he not only did not move, but humorously said: "As long as you scold me for making his performance sell ten more tickets, it can be regarded as a good deed." There was a prickly tone in the remarks, and it sounded sarcastic.
When Li Hongye heard this, he seemed to be enraged, not only did he make content specifically for Guo Degang on the short video platform, but also made disrespectful remarks about this senior during the live broadcast.
This series of behaviors made netizens unbearable, and many people expressed dissatisfaction with Li Hongye, and some fans also lost their fans because of this.
Time came to 2021, and Li Hongye and his wife appeared in the variety show "Uncle Four Flavors" after being quiet for a period of time.
At this time, Li Hongye, although he lost his earlier arrogance, the stubbornness in his bones has not changed, and he still firmly believes that his "formula cross talk" is the best.
After the show was broadcast, he once again became a hot topic of discussion, but this time he did not choose to fight back, but concentrated on cross talk.
It's a pity that the reality doesn't buy it, his live broadcast audience is getting smaller and smaller, and not many people have watched the published jokes.
may have suffered too many setbacks, starting from September 2023, Li Hongye will no longer update the information on social platforms, and slowly, he will fade out of public view like this, as if he has disappeared.