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Survey of the sample of "self-raising and self-construction" in the community (3)丨"Owner's contribution" and "unity of opinions" have become practical difficulties

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Poster News reporters Wang Xiaoyin and Liu Jingyi report from Hangzhou, Zhejiang

  Recently, the residents of Zhegong New Village, located in Gongshu District, Hangzhou, have attracted widespread attention from all walks of life. Founded in 1983, Zhegong New Village has many potential safety hazards due to its high age and old houses. After nearly ten years of coordination and preparation, in 2023, 548 residents in the community will raise 470 million yuan to promote the transformation and upgrading of the community, becoming the first self-raised community in Hangzhou to be demolished and built.

  At the Zhejiang level, there are greater actions. The Zhejiang Provincial Department of Housing and Urban-Rural Development, the Zhejiang Provincial Development and Reform Commission and the Zhejiang Provincial Department of Natural Resources recently jointly issued the "Guiding Opinions on Steadily Promoting the Pilot Work of Independent Renewal of Old Urban Communities (Trial)" (hereinafter referred to as the "Guiding Opinions"), actively exploring the transformation of old urban communities combined with demolition and renovation in the way of independent renewal by owners, and will be officially piloted from May 1 this year.

  As soon as the "Guiding Opinions" were issued, it became a hot topic among residents of many old communities in Hangzhou. Does the community meet the conditions for self-renewal? What are the pros and cons of "self-raising and self-building"? Who will be the leader of the community owners?...... Many communities have posted intent questionnaires and set up group chats to explore the possibility of self-renewal in the community.

  From April 19th to 21st, the poster news reporter visited Caihe New Village, Cuiyuan New Village District 2 and Buildings 4-7 of Cuiyuan North District 2 in Hangzhou, and interviewed residents of the community on "self-raising and self-construction". Judging from the interviews, the issue of funds is the focus of residents' concern, and the lack of consensus has become the main reason why it is difficult to continue the application. Some residents believe that "self-raising and self-construction" can completely solve the old problem of the community and want to actively promote it; some residents believe that "self-raising and self-construction" is difficult to operate in practice, and there is almost no possibility of landing.

  Communities that are conducting intent surveys: Funding is both a concern and a challenge

  On the afternoon of April 19, the poster news reporter came to the Caihe New Village community, which was in the stage of investigating the intention of the owners. Located in Shangcheng District, Caihe New Village was built in the 80s of the last century, with a total of 31 residential buildings in the community, 7 floors high, one ladder and four households, with a superior geographical location. Shell housing shows that the reference house price of the community in March this year was 44,631 yuan / square meter.

  The reporter noticed that on the doors of many residential buildings in the community, the "self-raising and self-building" proposal and public opinion survey form have been posted, and the proposal is signed by "enthusiastic owners of Caihe New Village", and the date of payment is April 16. The proposal said that the community was built early, and simple environmental renovation and upgrading and maintenance and reinforcement can no longer fundamentally solve the problem of dilapidated and old, let alone meet the yearning for a better life of "living in a livable place". At present, the poll group 1 of the community has reached 500 people, and the poll group 2 has more than 200 people as of the afternoon of April 19.

  A student playing in the community told reporters that he had heard his parents talk about "self-financing and self-construction", and his parents said that they could consider it, and they also wanted to live in a new house.

  Aunt Zhang, who lives on the first floor, objected to the content of the proposal: "It's better not to demolish it, I'm too old to toss and can't move." ”

  Aunt Zhang told reporters that she used to live on the 5th floor of a community built in the 90s, and it was very inconvenient to go in and out when she was old, and then moved into Caihe New Village. At present, Aunt Zhang and her wife live on the first floor, with an area of more than 40 square meters.

  In addition to not wanting to move around anymore, Aunt Zhang also said that she can't come up with so much money at the moment. According to the case of Zhegong New Village, the area of the suite will not be reduced after the reconstruction, and the original area will be charged 1,350 yuan/square meter of renovation cost, and the expansion area will be settled according to the market price, and each household needs to pay more than 100 yuan out of pocket.

Survey of the sample of "self-raising and self-construction" in the community (3)丨"Owner's contribution" and "unity of opinions" have become practical difficulties

Caihe New Village

  While talking to Aunt Zhang, Ms. Li, who lives on the 3rd floor of the building next door, passed by and joined in the exchange. At the beginning, Ms. Li said that her attitude was to "follow the crowd", and those who agreed with it would agree, and those who opposed it would oppose it.

  "I moved in after getting married in eight years, living in our house until now our house is leaking, the walls are black, the community has painted the walls of the building twice, but it has not been able to solve the fundamental problem of the old house, if you say to take out two or three hundred thousand to update it, I agree with both hands and feet, if you take out at least 1 million yuan, who is willing? I don't want to, no money. Ms. Li said.

  Ms. Li said that she has friends in the Zhalongkou community has two sets of about 30 square meters of houses, I heard a friend said that if the "self-raising and self-building" needs to pay about 2 million yuan, and most of the old residents in the Caihe New Village community are ordinary retired workers, their monthly pension is about 4,000 yuan, which is already a good level among the neighbors.

  Regarding the case of Zhegong New Village, Ms. Li said that most of the residents of Zhegong New Village are retired teachers and staff, and the economic conditions are better, and the number of buildings in the community is small, so there is not much reference value for Caihe New Village.

  "Now it's a mess, everyone wants a poll, I added the poll group, the majority of the group now disagrees, more than 1,000 households in our community, it is estimated that the young, the back buys, and the children who study here will agree, and we elderly people will keep hundreds of thousands of dollars for the elderly, and we can't agree. Ms. Li said.

  A resident told reporters that he bought a house in Caihe New Village in recent years for his grandson to go to school, and when he bought it, it was at the most expensive time, requiring more than 50,000 yuan per square meter. "As a school district, the price of housing in Caihe New Village is more expensive than other old communities, and if the expansion is calculated according to the market price, then I can say that 100% of the independent renewal in our community cannot be done. The resident said.

  Communities that have basically concluded the intention survey: It is difficult to unify the opinions of residents

  Located in Buildings 4-7 of Cuiyuan North District 2, Xihu District, Hangzhou, it is the fastest community to submit an application for independent renewal after the issuance of the "Guiding Opinions". The community was built in the 90s of the last century, on the afternoon of April 19, the reporter visited and found that Cuiyuan North District 2 is more like an independent area opposite to the road across the road from Cuiyuan New Village, there are only four buildings in the community, 7 floors high, the distance between the buildings and rooms is small, there is almost no greening, there are more potholes on the ground, the old reform is underway, and the overall living environment is inferior to the second district of Cuiyuan New Village and Caihe New Village.

Survey of the sample of "self-raising and self-construction" in the community (3)丨"Owner's contribution" and "unity of opinions" have become practical difficulties
Survey of the sample of "self-raising and self-construction" in the community (3)丨"Owner's contribution" and "unity of opinions" have become practical difficulties

Buildings 4-7 in the second district of Cuiyuan North

  The reporter randomly consulted more than a dozen residents in the community on "self-raising and self-building", two residents said they were tenants, seven residents said they were not clear about the relevant policies or it was inconvenient to disclose their intentions, and one resident said that he agreed to update himself and had signed the application. Some residents told reporters that at present, the vast majority of residents in the community have agreed to carry out "self-raising and self-construction", but there are still a small number of residents who do not agree or cannot be contacted, resulting in the application cannot continue to advance, and there is no result at present, and it is in a stalemate stage.

  Across the road, the self-updating public opinion survey in District 2 of Cuiyuan New Village was also rejected due to disagreement. Cuiyuan New Village District 2 was built in the 80s of the last century, there are 36 buildings in the community, 6 floors high, shell housing shows that the reference house price in March this year is 35,200 yuan / square meter.

  On the square in the community, a number of residents told reporters that the community had conducted a poll on its own initiative and had not heard anything so far.

  Aunt Wang, who has lived in District 2 of Cuiyuan New Village for more than 30 years, and a family of five living in a house of more than 50 square meters on the first floor, told reporters that she did not agree to update independently. "The policy is good, but my conditions are not enough, if there are conditions, it must be updated, most of our community are ordinary workers, and if we have to come up with more than one million yuan for 'self-raising and self-building', then I can't get it." Aunt Wang said.

  The owner's new plan: new underground parking spaces to obtain income and subsidize above-ground buildings

  On the afternoon of April 21, the poster news reporter came to Caihe New Village again. The reporter noticed that the group chat QR code on the "self-raising and self-building" proposal mentioned above showed that the QR code sharer could not join because the QR code sharer had left the group chat, and the number of group chats dropped from more than 200 people on the 19th to 185. At the same time, a new proposal appeared on the gate of some units of Caihe New Village, which stated that it intends to support the policy of "independent renewal of old communities", and advocated that the owners of the community jointly support and strive to be the first batch of pilot communities.

Survey of the sample of "self-raising and self-construction" in the community (3)丨"Owner's contribution" and "unity of opinions" have become practical difficulties

The proposal posted in Caihe New Village

  Subsequently, the reporter contacted Mr. Xu, the poster of the proposal. Mr. Xu said that because the community has been built for a long time, the supporting facilities have been aging, even if there have been many small-scale renovations, it has always had certain limitations, and the introduction of the new policy means that the community is expected to be completely upgraded, if the transformation can be successful, it is likely to be a win-win situation.

  "I have a plan to realize the free replacement of the old house except for the expansion part, because the community is located in the city center, the surrounding parking is inconvenient, and the price of parking spaces is very high, so a large number of new underground parking spaces can be set up when rebuilding the community, and the proceeds from the sale of parking spaces can be used to make up for the construction cost of the above-ground part. This can achieve a win-win situation for the country, society and individuals. Mr. Xu said that there are two main groups in the community - one is older, the economic situation is often not very good, their biggest pain point is the current inconvenience of going up and down the stairs, the biggest worry is whether the economic conditions can afford the reconstruction;

  Mr. Xu believes that his plan is relatively fair and reasonable, which can enable the two groups to solve their biggest pain points at the same time, and at the same time eliminate their biggest concerns, so as to achieve the greatest balance in their core interests.

  Mr. Xu said that the plan has just taken shape. As of the evening of the 21st, there were 21 people in the group chat set up by Mr. Xu, and some residents said in the group that the area should be distributed to the residents according to the actual building ratio, and some residents said that after looking at other group chats, the problems were focused on the focus of those who were willing but did not have money.

  It is understood that the "Guiding Opinions" will be implemented on May 1, 2024, and it is necessary to adhere to the principle of "government guidance, owner subjects, adapting measures to local conditions, categorical guidance, ensuring safety, optimizing processes, voluntary declaration, and pilot first".

  The pilot work of independent renewal of Zhegong New Village has received widespread attention, but there are still too many unknowns about whether other old communities can follow its path for "self-raising and self-construction".