Earlier, we at PConline have successively analyzed in detail for ordinary office users, creative workers and gamers, how to buy thin and light laptops, workstations and gaming laptops in Intel and AMD platforms, and who has the advantage in the case of roughly the same price. In addition to these three types of users, there is also a category of notebook users that is easy to ignore but a large number of groups - enterprise users, of course, we will not forget friends with this part of the needs, at the end of 2023, PConline will continue to provide purchase suggestions for this part of the users, this article will be in line with the application of the actual office scene, a detailed analysis of the business notebook under the enterprise procurement, Intel Core platform and AMD Ryzen platform, who is the more suitable one? Specifically, the two processors used for comparison tests are the 13th Gen Core i5-1350P from Intel and the Ryzen 7-PRO 7840U from AMD.
1. The difference between commercial models and ordinary consumer products
Let's first briefly introduce the difference between commercial models and ordinary consumer products, so that you can understand the difference between these two products. Although commercial models and ordinary consumer-grade thin and light laptops look similar in terms of shape and hardware configuration, there are actually big differences in design concepts.
Generally speaking, commercial models will be more low-key and pragmatic in appearance, and will be slightly better overall in scalability, typing experience, and interface, but the most important gap between the two is the two major aspects of after-sales and enterprise-level functions. It is more secure, and provides control and protection of computers at the hardware and software level, which can prevent data leaks or more comprehensive remote management, etc. (for enterprise-level related features, this article will also be mentioned in the section after the performance test).
Second, the model selection
In terms of model selection, this time we finally finalized the EliteBook 840 G10 (Core version) and EliteBook 845 G10 (Ryzen version) from HP's commercial family EliteBook 800 series, the two models belong to the same model, "840" and "845" Just to distinguish the processors, the two are equipped with Intel's 13th Gen Core i5-1350P, which supports the Intel vPro platform, and the AMD Ryzen R7-PRO 7840U, which supports the AMD PRO platform. The specific configuration of the two of them is as follows:
The HP EliteBook 840 G10 and 845 G10 belong to the HP EliteBook 800 series, which is HP's mid-to-high-end business notebook.
The keyboard and touchpad are excellent for typing, and the rebound is crisp and fast, making this set of keyboards and touchpads definitely one of the best in a Windows laptop for business professionals who need to type a lot.
Vignette: After determining that we want to carry out this test project, we did make a difficulty in choosing the model, the main reason is that although notebooks equipped with AMD Ryzen processors in the consumer market are quite common, in the commercial field, it is a little difficult to find a product with both Intel Core Edition and AMD Ryzen Edition under the same model.
For example, in the JD store, if you search for the EliteBook 845 G10, you can only find a keyboard film or screen protector
AMD Ryzen processors are not widely used in commercial laptops, commercial models are still dominated by Intel Core processors, and enterprise users pay more attention to stability, universality and controllability brought by the Intel vPro platform, in this regard, AMD Ryzen has not been recognized by business owners and the IT departments of many companies.
3. Interface and wireless network card, two configuration points that commercial users should pay more attention to
In addition to the difference in processors, we can also see that two products of the same model have some other configuration points due to different platforms, before talking about the CPU, we will mainly talk about two aspects that are strongly related to commercial users.
Wireless network card
The Core Edition comes with a wireless adapter for Intel's own Intel AX211.
The Ryzen version is equipped with an MT7922 wireless network card, which is jointly launched by AMD and MediaTek, codenamed RZ616.
There is no big difference between the two in terms of specifications, both support Wi-Fi6, Wi-Fi 6E, 160MHz frequency band, 2x2 antenna, Bluetooth 5.3, but at present, it is generally believed on the network that Intel's own wireless network card will be better than other wireless network card providers in terms of stability.
In the early days of Wi-Fi6, Intel's wireless network card supply is stable, and the number of machines installed on the implementation is huge, so the driver of Intel's wireless network card is more mature than that of other manufacturers, and with its own core processor, it will be better in terms of adaptability, whether it is a notebook or a desktop, Intel's AX200/AX201/AX210/AX211 and other models of wireless network cards are definitely star-level benchmark products.
AMD chose to cooperate with MediaTek to jointly launch a wireless network card, their first generation Wi-Fi 6 wireless network card MTK 7921 is RZ608 in terms of speed, frequency band, Bluetooth and other aspects of the specifications are not very satisfactory, MT7922 is RZ616 is the second generation of Wi-Fi 6 wireless network card they launched, making up for the shortcomings of the first generation.
In addition, it is necessary to mention the operating temperature, which is clearly marked on Intel's official website, and the working temperature of AX211 is 0~80°C, which is higher than the 0~70°C of many other wireless network cards. In the small internal space of the notebook, the CPU, SSD, memory and other heat sources are relatively close together, and the components will be affected by each other, and business users generally use the notebook under high load for a long time and in various environments, and the Intel wireless network card can provide better stability in some cases with a higher operating temperature range of 10°C.
When I first got the two test machines, activating the Core version of the system was relatively smooth, but the Ryzen version was stuck on the wireless network connection, as shown in the figure below, the progress bar kept reading when connecting to the wireless network... The connection is completed after two reboots.
Ryzen Edition connects to Wi-Fi when activating the system
After the unlimited bar, it shows that there is no network connection and cannot proceed to the next step
Of course, this may just be a system bug, or it may be extremely accidental.
interface
The two models are the same in terms of the shape and number of interfaces, but the two Type-C ports of the Core model are Thunderbolt 4 ports.
The top is the i5-1350P version, and the bottom is the R7-PRO 7840U version
Thunderbolt 4 is Intel's own standard, so the core processor natively supports the Thunderbolt 4 standard, and we may often see many models equipped with a "USB 4 interface", which is actually a standard launched by the USB-IF organization after Intel donated the Thunderbolt standard to the USB-IF organization. Thunderbolt 4 has a very comprehensive function, which can be understood as "full blood from the factory", such as video output, 40Gbps bandwidth, power supply, etc.;USB 4Although it also supports all the functions of Thunderbolt 4 in name, it needs to be adapted by the laptop manufacturer, how many functions can be performed, shrinking or not, it depends on the conscience of the laptop manufacturer, and compared with the core processor that natively supports the Thunderbolt interface, this will inevitably bring an increase in cost.
Therefore, if you are more concerned about the scalability of the interface when buying a laptop, you should pay more attention to it, many manufacturers will not mark out which functions are supported by the USB 4 interface in their products, and if you see the Thunderbolt 4 interface in the Intel Core platform, then you can rest assured, because it must be "full-featured".
4. CPU introduction and performance tuning
The CPU on the Core version is Intel Core i5-1350P, Intel vPro platform, and the CPU on the Ryzen version is AMD Ryzen R7-PRO 7840U, AMD PRO platform.
The i5-1350P belongs to the P28 series of Intel's 13th Gen Core Raptor Lake, which is built by Intel 7 process, with 4 high-performance P-cores, 8 high-performance E-cores, 16 threads, P-core max turbo frequency of 4.7GHz, E-core max turbo frequency of 3.5GHz, 12MB Intel Smart cache, TDP of 28W, configurable power consumption range of 20W~64W.
The i5-1350P integrates an 80Eu Intel Iris Xe GPU with a maximum frequency of 1.5GHz. Compared with the more common i5-1350P models on mobile terminals, the i5-1350P is widely used in commercial products, and the core scale is the same as that of the i5-1350P, but the frequency of the P-core and E-core is 0.1GHz higher, and the core frequency is 0.05GHz higher.
AMD Ryzen R7-PRO 7840U is a Zen4 architecture, using TSMC 4nm FinFET process, with 8 cores and 16 threads, a maximum turbo frequency of 5.1GHz, L2 cache 8MB + L3 cache 16MB, TDP 28W, and configurable power consumption range of 15W~30W.
The R7-PRO 7840U integrates an AMD Radeon 780M GPU, 12Cu specification, and a frequency of 2700MHz.
The R7-PRO 7840U is a processor of the AMD PRO platform, and its core performance, specifications, and parameters are the same as those of the R7 7840U, which is commonly found in consumer notebooks.
Let's take a look at the performance of the two models under different processors. For businessmen, the quietness and system stability of the fan are the primary considerations, so the performance tuning is generally more conservative.
CPU single bake test was performed using the high-load Stress FPU mode in AIDA 64.
The i5-1350P can reach 60W in the first 15 seconds or so of the start of the test, and then drop back to 28W, and after 15 minutes of baking, the power consumption stabilizes at 28W, the P core frequency is 2.5GHz, the E core frequency is 2.0GHz, and the temperature is 73 degrees.
The R7-PRO 7840U can reach 30W after the start of the test, then drop back to 24W, and after 15 minutes of baking, the power consumption stabilizes at 24W, the core frequency is 2.8GHz, and the temperature is 80 degrees.
Although it is the same model, the performance release of different processors is significantly different.
Intel Core i5-1350P with a larger thermal power configurable range (20W~64W), can reach 60W high power consumption at the beginning of the test, gradually decrease after 15 seconds, and finally stabilize at 28W power consumption, while R7-PRO 7840U is limited by only 30W configurable maximum power consumption, so its performance release capacity is only 30W at most, and the short-term performance burst ability is far less than that of Intel i5-1350P. PDF, open web pages, etc., better instantaneous performance calls will improve the user's daily use experience even more, so in this regard, the performance of the Core version will theoretically be better.
In addition, the temperature situation is the 24W R7-PRO 7840U is 80 degrees, the 28W i5-1350P is 73 degrees, and the i5-1350P power consumption is slightly higher but the temperature is lower, which is due to the fact that the Ryzen Zen architecture has always been affected by high thermal density, even if it is a "open cover" in mobile platforms The state CPU is also still affected by the accumulated heat, so it is even worse in terms of temperature performance, and the Core version will also be slightly better for commercial laptops that are more focused on stability and typing experience.
A little bit of memory and SSD should also be mentioned. Memory can also affect performance, especially in office applications. Both models are equipped with a single 16GB DDR5 memory (commercial models will use single-channel memory instead of dual-channel memory for various reasons such as cost, bidding needs, and future upgradeability), but the Ryzen version is 5600MHz and the Core version is 5200MHz (due to the difference in processor support for memory frequencies), so in terms of memory speed, the Core version will be slightly worse. Both products also have 512GB PCIe solid state SSDs, and as commercial laptops, both memory and SSDs are dual-slot.
i5-1350P memory frequency
Memory frequency of the R7-PRO 7840U model
5. Performance evaluation of office scenarios
Since it is a commercial model, in addition to a few "routine" benchmark tests, the performance test in this article is naturally mainly oriented to applications in office scenarios, including Office documents, web pages, image editing, video editing, etc.
Benchmark performance testing
First up are the three usual CPU performance benchmarks, CINEBENCH 2024, CPU-Z, and Geekbench 6.
IN CINEBENCH 2024:
i5-1350P单核性能102pts，多核性能532pts；
R7-PRO 7840U单核性能100pts，多核性能656pts。
i5-1350P CINEBENCH 2024
R7-PRO 7840U CINEBENCH 2024
In CPU-Z:
i5-1350P single-core performance 756.6 points, multi-core performance 6281.7 points;
R7-PRO 7840U单核性能653.5分，多核性能5632.1分。
i5-1350P CPU-Z
R7-PRO 7840U CPU-Z
In Geekbench 6:
i5-1350P single-core performance 2429 points, multi-core performance 10065 points;
R7-PRO 7840U单核性能2382分，多核性能9066分。
i5-1350P Geekbench 6
R7-PRO 7840U Geekbench 6
Passed three general performance tests, as shown in the figure below
多核性能，i5-1350P在CPU-Z与Geekbench 6中占优，而R7-PRO 7840U在CINEBENCH 2024中占优。
With single-core performance, the i5-1350P excels in all three benchmarks.
IN TERMS OF MULTI-CORE PERFORMANCE, CINEBENCH 2024 IS A TEST PROJECT THAT TESTS THE CPU'S RENDERING CAPABILITIES, AND IN THIS VERY TARGETED SINGLE TEST, THE R7-PRO 7840U HAS BETTER MULTI-CORE PERFORMANCE. In the Geekbench 6 test, the i5-1350P scored higher, indicating that the performance of the i5-1350P will be more comprehensive.
The vast majority of frequently used office applications pay more attention to single-core performance, and powerful single-core performance can provide faster task processing speed in one clock cycle, so in the case of multi-core performance redundancy, the strength of single-core performance will greatly affect the user experience at the commercial office level. Through the above tests, we can see that the single-core capability of the Core i5-1350P is stronger than that of the Ryzen R7-PRO 7840U in multiple dimensions, indicating that in the office scenario, the i5-1350P should have stronger performance and better user experience.
Basic office scenario test
The next step is to test the targeted office scenarios, starting with the basic office performance test CrossMark, which includes productivity, creativity and responsiveness. Ultimately:
i5-1350P得分1650分；
R7-PRO 7840U得分1293分。
i5-1350P CrossMark
R7-PRO 7840U CrossMark
WebXPRT4 is a performance test to test the relevant functions of the web page, including photo editing, AI photo album, stock trends, icons, encrypted notes, scanning, etc., a total of six tests, finally:
i5-1350P得分303分；
R7-PRO 7840U得分293分。
i5-1350P WebXPRT 4
R7-PRO 7840U WebXPRT 4
PCMARK10 application project test, including Word, Excel, PPT and Edge browser web page test in Office software, finally:
i5-1350P得分：13436分；
R7-PRO 7840U得分：11374分。
i5-1350P PCMARK 10 APP
R7-PRO 7840U PCMARK 10 APP
UL Procyon's Office Productivity test, which includes a four-piece set of Office software, Word, Excel, PPT and Outlook, finally:
i5-1350P得分；6546分：
R7-PRO 7840U得分：5477分。
i5-1350P UL Procyon Office Productivity
R7-PRO 7840U UL Procyon Office Productivity
As you can see in the chart below, the Core i5-1350P performed better than the R7-PRO 7840U in all four of these tests.
Office's office software and browsing the web should be the most frequently used application in the daily work of most workers,Many of the above tests are directly called to these applications for scoring,i5-1350P without exception in all test items compared to R7-PRO The 7840U has a higher score, and even in almost every sub-category tested, the i5-1350P is in the lead, and among the two business laptops of the same series, the Core version will obviously support the application of this kind of scenario better.
This part of the test also directly confirms the test results of the "benchmark performance test" part, the Core version with stronger single-core performance in the case of a slight disadvantage in memory frequency, can still "win", in these office applications it can achieve faster response, faster loading, subtly, improve the user's work efficiency.
Advanced office scenario test
In addition to the above basic office applications, even if they are not specialized in design/editing positions, today's migrant workers often have to face the application of picture/video editing, and this kind of application will have higher performance requirements, so we will conduct the performance test of this part of the application next.
First of all, let's take a look at the image editing test, using the Photo Editing project in UL Procyon, which calls Adobe PhotoShop and Lightroom to perform a series of image editing, and finally results in a performance score:
i5-1350P得分：4852分；
R7-PRO 7840U得分：4287分。
i5-1350P UL Procyon Photo Editing
R7-PRO 7840U UL Procyon Office Productivity
Then there's the testing of the Video Editing project in UL Procyon, which calls Adobe Premiere for a series of video editing operations that result in a performance score:
i5-1350P得分：2109分；
R7-PRO 7840U得分：1892分。
i5-1350P UL Procyon Video Editing
R7-PRO 7840U UL Procyon Video Editing
Now that we've done two BenchMark benchmarks, let's take a look at how they work in practice and see if they match the results presented by BenchMark.
Use a 10-minute 4K 60fps video to import into Premiere, first use full screen + full resolution for video playback, and enable the built-in frame loss indicator in Premiere, after the video is fully played, the frame drop indicator displays:
i5-1350P机型丢失47帧；
The R7-PRO 7840U model lost a staggering 9956 frames.
i5-1350P 4K 60fps video playback lost frames
R7-PRO 7840U 4K 60fps video playback lost frames
Video information
After that, you can export the video, preset the matching source, and bring up the console in Premiere to check the video export time:
i5-1350P export time: 630 seconds;
R7-PRO 7840U export time: 764 seconds.
i5-1350P PR导出耗时
R7-PRO 7840U PR导出耗时
Or import the same video into Adobe Media Encoder for video transcoding, targeting H.265, 1080p 60fps:
i5-1350P耗时：22分02秒；
R7-PRO 7840U耗时：24分38秒。
i5-1350P ME转码耗时
R7-PRO 7840U ME转码耗时
The tests in this section are summarized in the table below.
Using PS/LR for picture editing pays more attention to the performance of the CPU, especially the single-core performance of the CPU, in the previous benchmark performance test, we have seen that the CPU performance of i5-1350P is better than R7-PRO 7840U regardless of multi-core or single-core, in addition, many operations in PS/LR are completed in a short time, and the i5-1350P with a higher power consumption ceiling can be configured to obtain higher explosive power, so in PS/ It is only natural that LR has a better performance.
PR and ME video-related applications do not rely only on the CPU,The encoding and decoding ability in the GPU also plays a decisive factor,In this part,AMD Ryzen processorThe larger iGPU core size and higher frequency seem to be stronger,But in fact, the encoding and decoding performance is the traditional strength of Intel iGPU,And it also supports more in the video format,It can provide performance bonuses through hardware decoding,So reduce the lag in the workflow,Improve the speed of export or transcoding,Improve work efficiency,So in the PR and ME test,The comprehensive performance of the Core version is far better than that of the Ryzen version。
Especially in the video playback "dropped frames" link, although before the test can already be expected AMD Ryzen processor performance will be poor, but I also did not expect that the R7-PRO 7840U and i5-1350P can appear such an amazing gap, when editing video, the pressure caused by a 4K 60fps video can only be said to be moderate, but R7-PRO The performance of the i5-1350P is far better than that of the R7-PRO 7840U, and the time consumed by the i5-1350P is also shorter when exporting and transcoding.
The performance testing section is summarized
Through the "Benchmark Performance Test", "Basic Office Scenario Test", and "Advanced Office Scenario Test", we restored the application performance in multiple real-world office scenarios, including: Office, web page, image editing, video editing, video transcoding, etc.
The results are clear, and the conclusion is simple: the Intel Core Edition performs much better than the AMD Ryzen Edition in most everyday office scenarios, and from the perspective of long-term experience, we recommend the Intel Core Edition model over the AMD Ryzen Edition model.
6. Endurance test
Using a laptop for office work without power is definitely a scenario that commercial office users often face, so I also tested the battery life of the two platforms.
In PCMARK 10's modern office mode, connect to Wi-Fi and turn on the battery saving mode under Windows, the battery life of the i5-1350P is 10 hours and 31 minutes, and the battery life of the R7-PRO 7840U is 13 hours and 23 minutes.
i5-1350P PCMARK 10 Modern Office Endurance test
R7-PRO 7840U PCMARK 10 MODERN OFFICE AUTONOMY TEST
The AMD Ryzen R7-PRO 7840U has a better battery life than the i5-1350P, which can provide longer off-power operating time. At the same time, I also used HWinfo to check the power consumption of the two processors in standby, the R7-PRO 7840U CPU package power consumption is basically in the range of less than 3W in standby, while the i5-1350P CPU package power consumption in standby is around 3W, in pure standby power consumption, Intel i5-1350P is slightly higher than R7-PRO 7840U.
i5-1350P standby power consumption
R7-PRO 7840U待机功耗
To sum up, in terms of battery life, AMD Ryzen R7-PRO 7840U is superior. But from the perspective of actual use, the Core i5-1350P, which has a slightly weaker battery life, can also fully meet the 8 hours of off-power office under normal circumstances, so as for whether to choose the Core version to get a much more powerful office performance, or choose the Ryzen version with a slightly stronger battery life but no essential difference, it depends on your own needs.
7. Enterprise-level commercial management technology, Intel vPro platform and AMD PRO platform
Compared with consumer-grade notebooks, serious commercial laptops will also have some "enterprise-level commercial technologies" used in them, corresponding to Intel's vPro platform and AMD's PRO platform.
In this field, the Intel vPro platform developed earlier, has higher stability, and has more industry-related partners. Compared with the AMD PRO platform, the Intel vPro platform is more accepted by business owners and IT operation and maintenance personnel.
The Intel vPro platform has four key features: professional-grade performance, reliable stability, comprehensive remote management, and comprehensive security features.
We will mainly talk about remote management here, which is the most important and commonly used technology point for enterprises. Intel's vPro platform not only provides ordinary, KVM takeover authorization under the Windows system (at present, many software, including the well-known QQ remote management can actually accomplish this operation), but also can provide remote control independent of the operating system, for example, when the Windows system cannot be entered, the vPro platform based on hardware-level active management technology can also intervene in remote operation, repair the system, drivers, etc. This will greatly reduce the work pressure of IT operation and maintenance personnel, and will also reduce the expenditure of enterprises in IT operation and maintenance, no matter what the situation and location, only need to complete remote management through the vPro platform.
AMD PRO also has the corresponding remote management function, but due to the late start, the function support is not very comprehensive, here is the simplest example, remote management, in the Ryzen Pro 5000 series, almost nothing is supported, simple KVM control and wireless network connection remote management are not supported, and due to the current Ryzen PRO The 7030 series processor is a set of vest products of the 5000 series, and the latest Ryzen 7000 series 7030 does not support these functions, only the Zen4 architecture Ryzen PRO 7040 series processor has relatively complete support, but in terms of wireless network cards, it still only supports Qualcomm wireless network cards and MediaTek wireless network cards. On these very basic functions, the Intel vPro platform has been supported for a long time, and it has been iterated many times, and it will definitely be better in terms of stability and compatibility, which is a microcosm of the more popular than AMD PRO in the enterprise-level management platform, but with the continuous update of AMD PRO, AMD PRO can be expected in the future.
8. Write at the end
There is a big gap between the needs of commercial users and the needs of ordinary consumers, and if it rises to the enterprise level, the gap may be even greater. In this article, we used the same model and different processor platforms to test the performance of Intel's 13th Gen Core i5-1350P (vPro platform) and AMD Ryzen R7-PRO 7840U in office scenarios.
The AMD Ryzen R7-PRO 7840U is not a complete defeat, and it lasts a little longer than the Core i5-1350P in terms of battery life.
In short, I hope that through this article about Intel Core i5-1350P vs AMD Ryzen 7-PRO 7840U, users who have not paid attention to commercial notebooks can learn more about the current development of commercial computers, and I hope to help business owners make purchasing decisions for office computers.
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