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Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

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"Military Secondary Plane" author: Military Wu Mushroom

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

As a heavy gamer, Junwu has played countless games. Playing a few games in your leisure time is also the main entertainment method of military mushrooms. As a senior military fan, among the various types of games, military mushrooms are undoubtedly most interested in military games of various themes.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

To be honest, among so many games that Junwu Mushroom has played, there are very few that can really make people sink down to feel the charm of the game, and many games are "eaten" by me after only playing for a few hours.

So, in the eyes of military mushrooms, what conditions should a truly fun war game meet?

First of all, as a military-themed game, it is most important to give players a unique sense of immersion on the battlefield. In order to reflect the cruelty of the real battlefield, the hardcore realistic gameplay section is very important. As for those games of young ladies everywhere, two-dimensional skin, military mushrooms although also... Not interested, but certainly not appropriate in a military game.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

▲ This is a "World War II-themed" game

Secondly, as a military fan, Junwu Mushroom pays great attention to the various weapons and equipment in the game. There was once such a World War II-themed shooting game that claimed to be "completely restored to history", in which the German army actually had a Japanese "crooked handle" machine gun, and the Japanese army was a German MG42, STG-44 and P08 pistol. Such a game, even if it is cool to play, it is definitely on the "blacklist" here in military mushrooms.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

▲ Anti-Japanese dramas dare not shoot like this

In fact, there are not few such games on the market, but most of them are niche in the niche, not that these games are not fun, but the threshold for getting started is too high and the learning difficulty is too great. If you want to seriously learn the game mechanism and practice the operation, you need a lot of time, and playing a game is the same as going to work, but you lose the original meaning of game leisure.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

▲ Some games are more tiring to play than going to work

Finally, some games do not want to give players a good game experience, but are full of money, so that players keep charging money to become stronger, crushing players who do not charge money or even charge less. Military mushrooms are not against paying for games, after all, game companies also want to make money, but they can't be too bottomless. Junwu Mushroom has many friends, and it is charged five or six figures, or even seven figures, in one game, and there is no end. Limited by wallets, such games have always been respected.

But today, Junwu Mushroom wants to bring you good news: a long-awaited hardcore war shooter "Conscription" will soon be launched in China!

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

The game "From the Army" into China is War Entertainment, a name that many people may not have heard of, but if you talk about the company's predecessor Skynet, I believe everyone is already very familiar. Since the beginning of "World of Tanks" that year, they have been insisting on doing the hardcore military game category, which has brought countless memories to our military fans. And Wang Leilei, chairman and CEO of War Interactive Entertainment, sold 7 million Type 59 tanks in "World of Tanks" that year, and was also jokingly called China's largest "virtual arms dealer".

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

Wang Leilei is an old friend of our military martial arts, and I believe that many netizens, especially the old players of "World of Tanks", are already familiar with him. The background of a military family not only made him a military fan like everyone, but also had a huge impact on his personality style and life experience.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

▲ Mr. Wang accepted our interview at the gym he usually goes to

Like his game career, Wang Leilei's life is also very "hardcore". Although he is fifty years old, he still insists on exercising, active in the gym, and maintains a strong physique. Locomotives, skydiving... These activities are often seen as the madness of teenagers, and they are also Wang Leilei's way of relieving work pressure and relaxing himself. Of course, he often sits in front of the computer and experiences his own games with ordinary players.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

However, with the separation of "war trilogy" such as "World of Tanks", the air net seems to gradually begin to fade out of the field of vision of military fans, and few people have heard of what else they do. Until now, War Interactive Entertainment has led "From the Army" to return to everyone's vision.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

I believe that many people are very curious: what happened to the air network in the past, today's war and mutual entertainment, and the familiar "two thunders"? What's next? Today, we were fortunate enough to find Wang Leilei and asked him a few questions that military fans were curious about.

Q: Military mushroom A: Wang Leilei

Q: Why has War Interactive Entertainment been making military-themed games?

A: Like "World of Tanks", some other games, now backwards to look back, in fact, blind cats touch dead rats. We did some god and ghost games, like Kung Fu World, and we didn't succeed. Then I found an online novel called "Evil Magic Rules", and the game made was 80,000 online on the first day, and it was estimated to be cut in half by noon the next day.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

When he was depressed, a few plainly dressed Russians, Wargaming, came to ask for directions. At that time, I had never been to China, so I knew that there were many game users in China. After looking at their early work ("World of Tanks"), I think it's okay, then sign it, anyway, the agency fee is cheap, at that time personal interests and company business were not related.

At that time, the other party actually found many companies, all saying that your game was too niche, and when it was finally negotiated, it was like a dream. At that time, they could no longer pay their salaries, and they asked me if they could give them a sum of money to pay their salaries first, and I said that there was no problem, everyone was friends. I didn't expect that after the test, it was quite popular, so I kept doing it.

Q: What is the difference between Warfire Entertainment and other game companies?

A: Our company is really different from other game companies. Many game companies care about what to pay, retention rate, this and that, I don't understand. What we want is that the buttons on this military uniform are different from those of 41 and 44, and German tanks and Soviet tanks, when they are launched, because the purity of that oil is not the same, and the color of the smoke is different. One is black smoke and the other is gray smoke.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

We try to show everyone the most real side of the war under the condition of complying with relevant regulations, which is also an education for users. That is, when you combine interests, hobbies, and beliefs with what you are doing, this is your own little universe. The game we want to make is to express our understanding of the game, and let users recognize us, and make money by the way.

Moreover, as long as our game is still in the user, it can almost return the book, we will never turn it off, and we will not stop serving if the earth does not explode. Including some other types of games, Guild Wars 2 we have been working on it for 10 years, and we actually lost a lot of money at that time, we used the least number of people to maintain this game update, and now it seems to be bigger. It's about sticking and sticking to your users.

Q: How do you think of others calling yourself "Erlei" and asking "medical expenses"?

A: My philosophy with the player is that the more he scolds us, the more he loves us. Because he scolded us, it shows that he cares about this game. So I never refused to scold, but I was afraid that he would leave without a word. You take care of me as "Erlei", ask me if I am better, I said it is not good, spread, and give some medical expenses! In the past, some game players, like "Battlefield 5" ah, COD users used to spray me and play.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

Actually, I'm not pretending to be anything, I also enjoy interacting with my fans, users. It's important because I enjoy talking to them. I'm not a discipline, I have to interact with them in order to do business, I have to take money from their pockets, it's not like that. Have you read a sentence about the press conference, love to play and roll, right? Scold is scolding, it doesn't matter. I felt that I am happy, you are happy, and the most important thing is that everyone is happy together. You scold inside, you shout, you call, and it's also a pleasure for you to be able to relax and help you, right?

Q: Without World of Tanks, how did Airnet's game business survive?

A: The game "Conscription" is equivalent to a new battle of nirvana for us. "World of Tanks" is equivalent to an emotional thing of one's own, which was taken away by others "bang" and empty in the heart. I remember the day my colleagues and I, snowing, sitting in front of this gym: Let's do something? What else do we have? There is also a game called Guild Wars 2, and another game called "Armored Wars", these two "classic cars" I drove out for him, and that's it.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

After the night of the Spring Festival, I used to sometimes go to see the anchors of Douyu and Huya, broadcast tanks, give them gifts, encourage them, and drain the flow. Now it's not your own game, what are you giving a gift for? Others think a lot, and they are embarrassed to enter the live broadcast room. As a result, in the "Guild Wars 2" live broadcast room, others know my number, hey he said you are coming, said this is a good game, we have been playing this game. It's that as long as you don't shut down, we've been playing. I was, I cried that night and I had to get the game done. Therefore, as long as you persist in everything, you will definitely be able to succeed, and I am afraid that you will not insist.

Q: How does Wang always view the game industry?

A: I think making games, like being a person, is doing word of mouth. Jianghu has the reputation of rivers and lakes, and games have the reputation of games. You are good to the player, and he will understand after a long time. What do you say about military games, it's really niche, but you have this craftsmanship, and they follow you all the way.

Just like World of Tanks, I have a lot of motorcycle friends who are World of Tanks players, and they also ride motorcycles with me and skydive, and they have a deep relationship. Especially this game has been more than ten years, some of my motorcycle friends and umbrella friends feel that they can't play when they are old, and the game his son played his trumpet and passed on the lineage. There was a kid from '98 who said my dad was a World of Tanks player, and I had to take a picture with you and send it to my dad! His dad, who is 74 years old, can also have this empathy.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

I have a Mo friend who is also 95, his father is a year younger than me, and he calls me Brother Lei. When "From the Army" was released, he said to me, do you mind if I give you a flag? They were racing in Xinjiang, and they waved the flag at that cross-country place, and I said Chengcheng. The children who parachuted, too, jumped from the plane with the "victory in the army", and that's it, they did it themselves.

Q: What does Mr. Wang think of the group of military fans?

A: Like the military, that is, you can decompress like all other sports, but there is a higher level, by liking the military, build your own sense of justice. There may be people who study military affairs and learn Sun Tzu's art of war, just to crooked ways, or simply a tool for him to decompress. But I believe that military fans have a stronger sense of justice than ordinary people. You see military history, the power of heroes, examples, this sense of justice of military fans. What military fans like is a kind of tenacity, but going up is a sense of social responsibility and a sense of justice.

Military fans have no bad eyes, because he is better educated, he understands history, just like me and motorcycle friends, umbrella friends, it is very simple, everyone does not talk to you about business for a hobby. Just like you always say, military fans are lonely, and one and a half of these 10 people are military fans, right, wearing camouflage to the train station, people still think that you are a migrant worker, he also needs to have an atmosphere.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

▲ Mr. Wang participated in the activities of military organizations

Another characteristic that military fans may have is that we don't talk about it. It's like World of Tanks, how the players scolded and talked nonsense at that time, that is, others said that we would never refute it, which may also be a characteristic of military fans. I don't want to move my mouth with you, or I will move my fists. At that time, I also talked to 360, I will not do anything for you, I will not put up any obstacles. If it rains, the mother will marry, let him go.

Q: Why did you choose "Joining the Army"?

A: What about the game "Conscription", because we respect the product, right, this I always think, no matter what kind of business, the product is king. When we did the Internet, we called content king, just as you value this depth of the article, the quality of the article.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

Since War Thunder, we've been talking to Gaijin, and he's more worried about our relationship with Wargaming, and he said will he hide me? I said no, he didn't believe me. Actually, I definitely don't hide it, I'm fair. Later, they followed Tencent, but now they have stopped serving. Later, I talked to us about "Joining the Army", and I said that you can watch that "World of Tanks" is gone, and you don't have to worry about these things. They said okay, then I'll work with you.

Including the one called "Genesis Chariot", the perfect operation can not continue, but also let us help the operation. Even said that the movie, called "Panfilov 28 Warriors", he asked me if I want to release it? I said I don't have indicators, imported films must have indicators.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

The quality of our "Army", anyway, I think it is good, this Gaijin company is also serious about making games, not to say that just for the sake of the money of the two dates, to lose this concept.

In fact, from the perspective of entrepreneurs, I often talk to these friends, hey game to make money, do games. Then the one paid the tuition, oh this market is not profitable, there is a policy, then go, let's do WEB 3.0, pay the tuition again. He goes into a pit, you pay tuition, you will always have more experience than the person who does not pay tuition, you should continue to pay tuition in one place. There are many people in small Japan who cook rice and grow apples for a lifetime, you don't keep picking and choosing, you will always pay tuition fees, and this life will be over. First of all, I love it, I like it, I have a common language with everyone, and the things I make are different from others, because they are emotional.

Q: Why is Russia able to make this game?

A: These Russian companies, including some other countries of the former Soviet Union, are that the culture of war is particularly embedded in their entire lives. It's hard to imagine Chinese boys and girls dating, let's go to the military museum. The girl must have said you were sick, right? You look at the museums in Russia, Kubinka, and sometimes in his museums it's where girls and boys take pictures.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

Their war culture is particularly strong, as far as you say, we are also a fighting nation, but I think it is that they have a more fighting culture. Their perception of this war, and our view of war, these are different.

Q: Did Mr. Wang have any "darkest moments" in his life?

I experienced so many things, there was a child who was skydiving before and was afraid to jump. I said why did you skydive? He said I had depression. Why? Emotionally, at work, I said this is a fart, find a book to read. Have you read that book, called "Living the Meaning of Life"? He was in Auschwitz and wrote about his painful experiences. I read the book at that time, and he said it helped a lot.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

But I thought to myself that this book helped me 100 times more than he did. Sometimes I feel that the difficulties I encounter are very bitter and tiring, but you are not comparable to the people in the concentration camps, and they are too good compared to you, there is only one slice of bread a day, do you eat it once in the morning, or do you eat it in two, right? There are too many darkest moments, just what time it is, what can educate you. From the point of view of military fans, it is the same as fighting.

Q: In addition to playing games, what other hobbies does Mr. Wang usually have?

A: I am a person with a real temperament and love to play. In fact, I am fit, because fitness can make work more efficient. The second point is that when encountering difficulties, only fitness can release this pressure, a lot of mental things, which is more effective than sleep, so that a person can withstand the blow.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

Similarly, when the drug of fitness has no use for me, then ride motocross. When it's over, it's useless to start skydiving. After I skydived, I felt that my mind had gone up to a new level. Because I have to calm down, I have to pull it away after I get entangled, because sometimes the air is unstable, my body turns, and you wrap the paracord when you open the umbrella, and the umbrella is smaller than normal.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

At this time, you have to pull to see if you can untie, and the second point, that body has to turn, a few turns in the direction of that solution. I wrapped it up 6 times and let me untie it. The coach said you are amazing, of course I am that, this is fate! The psychological quality is excellent. That is, many things you have experienced, your psychological quality will be harder.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

Let's say, for example, like eating chocolate, can make people secrete dopamine, you have experienced this heartbeat, heart rate is too fast, or after taking risks, your endorphins are produced. Endorphins are more effective than dopamine, but endorphins are not said to be produced easily.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

Including saying Douyin number, my Douyin number is made by myself, not the company number, this is my personal number. I made up the video by myself, and no one made it up for me. But when shooting, sometimes I take a selfie with INSTA360, and some of the instructors helped me shoot, or the parachute jumper, he can bring GoPro, my 200 jump does not let me bring equipment, afraid that the parachute rope will be entangled.

Q: Is the cooperation between Warfire Entertainment and Gaijin "coming big"? Are there any plans?

A: No plan, just everyone is happy, play. Everyone plays with Rego, rides motorcycles, skydives, and plays games. It's just playing, everyone has fun. If you're not happy, you can have fun playing my game, and it's important to be happy. The second point is to be able to make friends and find like-minded friends inside.

Military Wu Mushroom Interview with Lei Leige: Since ancient heroes are teenagers, good boys together "Join the Army"

As for how much money I can make, I don't really care anyway. Our game mechanics are like this, it's not that you can go in and crush others with how much money you spend, anyway, every game we have, you can't spend it if you want to, there is no place to spend money, just like that, right.

"Every boy has a gun in his heart and every man has a tank in his heart." In fact, we can see that many entrepreneurs are actually military fans, such as military enthusiasts like Mr. Wang, who have persistence, momentum, open-mindedness, and dare to fight, which are the common characteristics of many military fans and friends.

As Wang Leilei said, military fans are also lonely, everyone in life, learn to bear pressure, but also release pressure, especially when playing games, have fun, make friends, this is the most important.

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