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Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

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Sir, who couldn't stay idle, was attracted by a Weibo that "did things".

#Park Chan-wook says Chongqing forest is overrate#.

Is there anything to show off about loneliness

The shot of grabbing a towel or soap is speechless

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad
Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

△ Source: Weibo @ watching movies

It's not Weibo itself that's making trouble.

And in the comment section, it simply exploded.

"Don't face, sunglasses are what you can evaluate?"

"Wong Kar-wai is overrated, then Park Chan-wook is garbage."

"If you rub your tail in Cannes, you will fly into the sky, and Korean movies are really not wrong."

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

Let's not say that this film review was produced in 2016.

It's now.

This reaction also shocked Sir.

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

△ Ang Lee evaluates Bergman's work

One director's evaluation of another director and his work should have been quite wonderful.

It's not as brainless as the rice ring.

It's the real right lord who comes down, and the big guys are light.

Coupled with the crazy standing of movie fans, passers-by put their beaks one or two, combined with current events in film history, it can be called sword and sword shadow, deafening and timeless.

Enough to be the best material to understand the director.

Sir was too late to copy the notes, why did he complain?

Oh.

Perhaps everyone has forgotten the high-level mouth cannon battle after another.

That is the opposite of our current silence, another world of public opinion.

Come on, come on.

The road ahead is congested.

Remember to line up, please check your tickets in order and enter in order.

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

01

Right things are not right people

In the Spring Festival this year, there was a small episode.

One day, the Douban of Xin Yukun, the director of "Heart Labyrinth" and "Bursting Silent", suddenly updated such a dynamic:

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

The evaluation is "Four Seas", Han Han's new film.

Originally, Sir didn't think there was anything, and the score of "Four Seas" already said it all, but look carefully, and the message below was immediately reminded:

Peers...

It seems to mean that among peers, don't criticize, even if you think the work is really bad.

Sure enough, it didn't take long.

Xin Yukun deleted the short comment and called his stolen account in the circle of friends, ending the episode in a strange way.

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

However, can peers really only praise each other and not criticize?

Of course it shouldn't be.

You may remember the camaraderie between directors, but at the same time, direct or indirect expressions of dissatisfaction are just as precious.

Jia Zhangke.

I used to be polite when commenting on the predecessors of the fifth generation of directors.

Talking about Chen Kaige's masterpiece "Overlord Farewell Ji":

He (Chen Kaige) is basically commercialized, and what he is doing now, like "Farewell to the Overlord", the mode of popular melodrama, can only be said to be a commercial film with a certain humanistic color at best.

Jia Zhangke's movie handbook "Jia Xiang"

Speaking of Zhang Yimou's "Ten Faces Ambush":

China's big-name directors simply don't have the talent to make commercial films.
Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

Tan Jiaming.

As Wong Kar Wai's mentor, he cut many films such as "A Fei's True Story".

But talking about "In the Mood for Love", he said:

So hollow... In slow motion, wriggling around in a kaft, but I wasn't convinced that the feelings of these two people would touch me.

"Wong Kar-wai's World of Pictures"

Even talked about Lou Ye's masterpiece "Spring Breeze Drunken Night":

The whole film seems a little deliberate both in terms of photography and editing, with some jumps and even very casual, the director's posture is too obvious, and the precipitation of emotions is not as good as "Summer Palace".

1805 Movie Network - Tan Jiaming interview

Old accounts?

There are also good shows on the new.

Below is the Douban Diss stage for director Xie Fei.

Not to mention those bad films.

Let's just say Zhang Yimou's "On the Cliff".

Douban 7.6 did not stop his disappointment.

"The failure to process and control such a weak play negates the efforts of the actors and audiovisual production."

Your uncle is still your uncle, and cultural people complain that it is indeed different.

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

This is still uncoordinated.

What about the collaborations?

"Evil Does Not Suppress Justice".

Director Jiang Wen, the two collaborated on "Benming Year" in 1990, which is also one of Xie Lao's masterpieces so far.

As a result, in the face of acquaintances, it was not polite at all.

"Self-righteous messy logic and unrestrained gimmicks".

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

Forced Jiang Wen to be anxious, and the circle of friends replied directly:

"You have to read more books and read good books, otherwise you will not only forget to be sincere to your friends, but also how to watch movies."

At the end, it is more about the previous sentence of cultural people PK cultural people "Shun Zhu Mengqi".

Elder Xie immediately replied, "Thank you for the reminder." ”

Then he slipped away in an interview, saying that he was not very satisfied with "One Step Away".

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad
Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

And not only domestic directors.

Abroad, so did the "godfather" Coppola.

Facing last year's two hottest blockbusters: "Dune" and "007: No Time to Die".

He said:

"Pull out their similar passages and compare, and you'll find that all of them are like all cars colliding with each other.

These films have that kind of big scene, and the creators have to make it if they want to prove that the budget is on it.

This is the status quo of so-called 'good' films and 'talented' filmmakers. ”

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad
Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

What about the others?

Takeshi Kitano complained about Hayao Miyazaki:

I hate animation, and Miyazaki is the one I hate the most, but as long as animation makes money, I am very much in favor of its value.
Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

Orson Welles spits on Woody Allen:

"He has a kind of 'Chaplin disease', it makes me uncomfortable to see, he is arrogant, and people with a timid personality are actually like that, his arrogance can be called boundless..."

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

Woody Allen: I also list "Citizen Kane" as one of my favorites

That's right.

If you look here, you may also find out.

The film industry has a chain of contempt.

The old look down on the new, and the representative ones look down on the rubbing.

The author's film looks down on fake literature and art, literature and art looks down on commerce, and commercial looks down on popcorn.

Xu Zheng once came to such a sentence.

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

Said very wronged.

But it can probably be represented by the following two figures.

Commercial film director.

Make money, commercial films, not chilling

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

Director of literary films.

Shabby!

It's chilling!

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad
Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

There are also "personal grievances".

For example, when Liu Weiqiang's "Building the Army" was released in 2017, it was frantically dissed by the famous director Ye Daying.

Who is Ye Daying?

Director of Guo Keyu's "Red Cherry", Leslie Cheung's "Red Lovers" and other films, grandson of Ye Ting.

Such an identity couldn't help but post several Weibo when he saw Ou Hao playing the youth version of Ye Ting:

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

And how did director Liu Weiqiang respond?

Fluttering words.

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

The careful thinking outside these words can only be felt by the two parties.

But anyway.

Before rising to the level of personality, these directors are only fighting against the work itself.

It's just that once you kill the red eye.

Then it becomes wrong to people.

02

It's not right for people

Which one is stronger in the film industry?

Please listen to the question:

Also a ceiling-level figure in European film history, what is Bergman's assessment of Godard?

A. I'm cute to death "Exhausted", this little brother really has two brushes

B. One of the few rings kings in the industry who can compete with me

C. Stupidity

Unfortunately, the answer is C.

Interestingly, when Godard was a film critic, he once praised his predecessor Bergman for his "camera's ability to grasp the second existence in the fleeting, deepen it, and give it eternal value."

And Bergman?

"I never got anything from Godard's films."

"They feel deliberate, hypothetical, lifeless. From the film itself, it is extremely boring and boring.

Godard is an annoying fool. ”

Bergman looked down on Godard, but favored Tarkovsky at the same time.

Good one step on one and hold one.

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

Of course, Bergman's poisonous tongue is not aimed at a specific person.

For example, his assessment of Antonioni is:

"Antonioni used to go his own way. But now he is out of breath - suffocated by his own tediousness. ”

For Orson Welles:

"In my opinion he is a liar, empty and uninteresting";

"His film is dead, 'Citizen Kane' is loved by thousands of film critics, and it can be at the top of every vote, but in my opinion, it is boring, and the most important thing is that the performance of the actors in it has no bright spots to speak of, and it is ridiculous that this film can still be respected today."

In a nutshell.

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

It's not just Bergman.

Also speaking out against Godard, there are also many people in the film industry.

Werner Herzog.

Compared to a good movie, a filmmaker like Godard is a smart fake.

Orson Welles, who had just been scolded by Bergman:

He has a huge talent as a director, but I can't think of him as a thinker, that's the difference between us – he sees himself as a thinker.

By the way.

He also despised a god in the hearts of many: Hitchcock.

I never understood why Hitchcock was so popular... "Rear Window" is a silly movie.

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

And what about Godard who liked Hitchcock?

Of course, I won't be a good old man waiting to be scolded.

He needs to take the initiative.

- Scold others before they scold me.

He spat on Spielberg.

"I don't know him personally, and I don't think his work is very good."

In other words, "limited talent, no suspense".

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

He spits on his former partner Truffaut.

Say he's a liar and doesn't understand movies:

I don't think Truffaut knows how to make movies. He only made one film that was really about him, "Four Hundred Strikes", and then stopped, and after that he was just telling stories.

Truffaut was a usurper of power, and if he could get into the Collège de France, I believe he would do a good job.

In the same way, he also looked down on Quentin.

In the face of his little fan who only promises, splitting the head is a sentence.

I think his films are terrible. So I'm not at all surprised that he chose one of my worst movies to name his company. If this is a tribute, it might as well send me some money.
Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

Good.

The baton is handed over to Quentin.

As a junior, he was repeatedly scolded by his seniors.

Godard's voice did not fall.

Nick Broomfield is here again:

"His films are like a schoolboy's fantasy of violence and sex.

Usually, Quentin Tarantino would be alone in the bedroom fighting these fantasy handguns while his mother made him a bean stew downstairs. ”

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

So do you think that the response of "elementary school chicken" Quentin is to scold back?

No.

It's anger.

For example, scolding the senior Truffaut as a "clumsy amateur"; To hell with David Lynch; Admit that he hates John Ford; To say that Kubrick is simply TMD is a hypocrite.

A foot fetish who does not quarrel is not a good director.

After the mouth cannon and then patting the beautiful woman's foot, it was simply satisfying for another day.

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad
Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad
Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

No one is not scolded.

No one does not curse.

These bigwigs in the film industry are basically in this feng shui rotation.

There are also people like European director Jacques Rivett.

Every now and then there is an indiscriminate wholesale attack.

He not only criticized Spielberg as a jerk, Kubrick as a mutant, Hou Xiaoxian and Cameron as problem teenagers, but also said that he hated Hanek, who made "Fun Games".

"Haha, Hanek and John Woo are really right, they should get married, and I will never want to see the children they give birth!"

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

△ John Woo: Don't offend, don't cue.

Of course.

I have been staying in the cocoon room full of positive energy for a long time.

Seeing these big guides scolding people as natural as speaking Mandarin, many people will feel strange, uncomfortable, shocked...

So Sir also wants to ask for everyone.

03

Is it just scolding?

Scolding so fiercely, what kind of contradiction is there really a deep hatred?

Most are the opposite.

The aforementioned Xie Fei and Jiang Wen, so yin and yang are mutually afraid, but two years later, when Xie Fei talks about Jiang Wen again, he will still say:

He is a "genius director and genius actor".

When filming "Benmei Nian", Xie Fei suggested that Jiang Wen, who loves everything, should be the director, "He is suitable." In Xie Fei's view, although several recent works directed by Jiang Wen are commercial films with market-oriented behavior, they are not as simple as his early works, but his brilliant talent is amazing.

Beijing Youth Daily

And Jiang Wen, someone once asked him the director he admired the most, and he hardly hesitated:

Xie Fei, Xie Jin.

Found it?

Sometimes, they are "self-blackening" as their own people.

Sometimes, it's just about falling in love and killing each other.

However, as viewers, while listening to the grumbling of the bigwigs, we can find their spirit of continuity with each other in many works.

Even influencing each other and achieving each other.

Or Jiang Wen.

In 1980, at the age of 17, Jiang Wen watched Akira Kurosawa's "Rashomon" for the first time.

He was shocked:

"I don't like it, when I watched it for a long time this broken movie, how can it be so ugly when it's so famous!"

As a result, after filming "The Devil is Coming" at the beginning of the millennium, many people said that it was like Kurosawa's style.

What black and white, the state of the peasant, the state of the devil...

Jiang Wen:

I later felt that there was some truth in what they said.

I watched "Rashomon" again, it was very good, as well as "Seven Samurai" and "Spider's Nest City". I suddenly felt that the film and I had a sense of breath, a sense of dialogue, and I knew what it was about.

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

Moka's law, honesty is not self-deceiving.

It's not just Jiang Wen.

The Light of Thailand, Apichatpang, is the same.

When I watch Taiwanese movies such as Hou Xiaoxian, Yang Dechang or Tsai Mingming

I always fall asleep

...... Years later my films also put the audience to sleep

I think movies like this have a special power

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

That's the world of movies.

It doesn't need to follow "correct" and it doesn't have to be black and white.

Take Sir himself.

When you have seen enough movies, you will even find that between the works of different filmmakers, many of them have familiar shadows at the content level.

Godard always pays tribute to his predecessor Delaiye.

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

△ "Do as you like"

Later, Wong Kar-wai learned Godard's frame skipping shots.

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

△ "Chongqing Forest"

Chen Zhengdao, the younger generation, has made many films to pay tribute to "Chongqing Forest".

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

And at the same time.

Tam Jiaming, who criticized Wong Kar-wai, even clearly typed the four characters "Tribute to Gundam (Godard)" in his TV works to express his reverence.

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

Yes.

Criticism or spit on the work itself often does not produce evil consequences, but becomes the soil that nourishes art.

But what about our reaction?

Back to the example at the beginning.

Park Chan-wook, who said he didn't like "Chongqing Forest".

Being abused by a bunch of people.

Xie Fei, who criticized Zhang Yimou and Jiang Wen.

Can also be personally attacked.

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad
Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

I have to say.

Such ideas are not only narrow, but also dull enough.

Even the greatest works have criticism.

Lao She criticized "1984".

Can you tell whose fault it is?

Criticism is not silence or extinction, it is just outside the channels of praise, providing the audience with a more personal way of thinking, allowing people to restore the ordinary feeling of facing the classics.

Even, to form comparison, competition and dynamics within the industry.

Isn't it to break the altar to disenchant it, facilitate more smooth communication and tolerance, and realize the resonance from the circle to the outside, the screen to reality, and across time and space?

As Park Chan-wook said:

This film is either directed by "masters" or "great stars of tomorrow", otherwise all of them are "masterpieces", and no matter how bad they are, they are also "works of topic"; they are "pearls", "gems", "full of charm", "real discoveries", either "praised at many film festivals" or "set off huge controversy", so "you will regret not watching it".

But after reading some of them, how do you feel now? More than half of it is a lie, or an exaggeration, right?

It's no surprise that even the most famous director can't make masterpieces continuously, and even if he wins an award at a film festival, it can't happen to be my thing.

"Park Chan-wook's Montage"

Today, if bad reviews should be killed, then praise will not live alone.

Watching movies is a private experience, and liking and disliking is an individual's right.

What's more, when you are indomitable for your love or idol, you never think that maybe this is a fairy fight in the circle, or even a sweet encounter of "no fight and no acquaintance".

Sir wanted to say.

Give the mouthpiece back to the movie, to the people who love it.

More than corrective correctness, Sir has always believed in the freedom of weeds.

Self-expression is afraid of the most not opposition, criticism, discord...

It's weak.

It's fading, it's fading.

Even if you listen carefully, you can only hear the politeness and caution of the empty sound.

There is no echo beyond the echo.

The rest of us.

There can be no silence but never-ending silence.

Wong Kar-wai's works were torn up, and they were praised and finally someone dared to tell the truth? The "chain of contempt" of domestic entertainment is really sad

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