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Northeastern University or Northwestern University, which one would you choose?

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In the Q&A area of the platform, some netizens raised questions: This year, my niece is in her third year of high school and is ready to take the university entrance examination, her academic performance is okay, ranking in the top 10 in the class, and her target universities are Northeastern University and Northwest University, choose one of the two. Don't know which university is better?

Northeastern University and Northwest University, judging from the name, are only one word apart, but the level of education is different. Northeastern University is a 985 university and Northwestern University is a 211 university. Northeastern University is ranked 38th and Northwestern University is ranked 65th, while Northeastern University is ranked 29th and Northwestern University is ranked 64th in the Alumni Association.

From this point of view, Northeastern University is undoubtedly much stronger than Northwestern University, but for your niece, is Northeastern University the best choice for her? It's like finding a random candidate and asking him to choose between Tsinghua University and a three-book university, if you don't need to take the college entrance examination results, you will definitely choose Tsinghua University. To put it simply, candidates who apply for the examination should not only look at the level of the university, but also see whether their college entrance examination results can match them.

Next, let's take a look at these two universities that look like brothers.

Northeastern University or Northwestern University, which one would you choose?
Northeastern University or Northwestern University, which one would you choose?

First impressions of Northeastern University and Northwestern University

When we apply for the university, we should have a general understanding of the relevant situation of the university, of course, it will be better if we have a more comprehensive understanding, but due to many factors, it is impossible for us to know a university well, even for the professors of the university, it is difficult to fully understand the school.

Location: Northeastern University is not located in Heilongjiang, the northeastern part of the mainland, but in Liaoning Province, the southernmost province of the three eastern provinces. In fact, in my opinion, Liaoning Province is not the real meaning of the Northeast, the latitude range of this province is about the same as the northern part of Hebei Province, and the geographical location is not remote. Northwest University is also not located in Xinjiang, the northwesternmost part of the mainland, but in Shaanxi Province, a province in the central region. One is in Shenyang and the other is in Xi'an, both of which are provincial capitals with similar development platforms, Northeastern University ≈ Northwest University.

Master's and doctoral points: We must look at this, because the number of master's and doctoral programs in a university is related to the strength of the university's faculty, and it is also related to the level of the research guarantee rate. Northeastern University has 38 master's programs and 24 doctoral programs, while Northwest University has 37 master's programs and 23 doctoral programs. The number of master's and doctoral programs at the two universities is very close, with Northeastern University ≈ Northwestern University.

Northeastern University or Northwestern University, which one would you choose?
Northeastern University or Northwestern University, which one would you choose?

Development history: When it comes to Northeastern University, many people think that Zhang Xueliang is its first president, and the school also advertises it as such. But if you take a closer look at the history of Northeastern University, you will find that Zhang Xueliang has no relationship with the current Northeastern University. Because the Northeastern University where Zhang Xueliang worked had already fallen apart in the smoke and artillery fire of history, the current Northeastern University was re-established later, but the name of Northeastern University was retained. The reason why Zhang Xueliang has no dime relationship with the current Northeastern University means that there is still a half-dime relationship. Because the current Northeastern University was formerly known as Northeast Institute of Technology, and the predecessor of Northeast Institute of Technology was Shenyang Institute of Technology, which was established on the basis of the School of Engineering and the School of Science (partially) of Northeastern University.

The history of Northwestern University is relatively pure, and the name Northwestern University was given as early as 1912. It has gone through the development period of National Northwest University, National Xi'an Provisional University, National Northwest Associated University, National Northwest University, Northwest University, etc. Speaking of which, I am reminded of an online anchor who once said that any university that used to have the word "national" can be called a historical university.

Discipline construction: Northeastern University has two double first-class disciplines, namely metallurgical engineering and control science and engineering, and Northwest University has two double first-class disciplines, namely geology and archaeology. Northeastern University has 7 national key disciplines (Materials Science and Engineering, Metallurgical Engineering, Control Science and Engineering, Philosophy, Mechanical Engineering, Computer Science and Technology, Mining Engineering), and Northwest University has 5 national key disciplines (Geology, Theoretical Economics, History, Biology, Geological Resources and Geological Engineering, History of Science and Technology). Northeastern University ≈ Northwestern University.

Northeastern University or Northwestern University, which one would you choose?
Northeastern University or Northwestern University, which one would you choose?

Professional development: In the professional ranking given by the alumni association, Northeastern University's metallurgical engineering and automation are all 7-level★ majors (world-renowned high-level, China's top majors), and there are 6 6-level★ majors (world-class and China's top majors): Mining Engineering, Mineral Processing Engineering, Software Engineering, Materials Science and Engineering, Mechanical Engineering, Computer Science and Technology.

Archaeology and geology at Northwest University are both★ 7-level majors (world-renowned high-level and China's top majors), and there are 2 6-level★ majors (world-level and China's top majors): materials chemistry and resource exploration engineering. Northeastern University > Northwestern University.

Employment quality: This is an evaluation index that candidates and parents are most concerned about. Let's take the employment situation of the recent Class of 2022 graduates as an example.

The graduation destination implementation rate of undergraduate graduates is 88.0% at Northeastern University and 74.98% at Northwest University. Among them, 47.6% of students chose to continue their studies at Northeastern University and 42.62% from Northwest University, and 40.4% from Northeastern University and 33.3% from Northwest University chose direct employment. In this bureau, Northeastern University > Northwestern University.

Northeastern University or Northwestern University, which one would you choose?
Northeastern University or Northwestern University, which one would you choose?

Looking at the nature of graduates' employment, Northeastern University's undergraduate graduates mainly go to enterprises (43.5% of private enterprises, 40.1% of state-owned enterprises, and 8.3% of foreign-funded enterprises), while Northwest University's undergraduate graduates also mainly go to enterprises (34.64% of private enterprises, 26% of state-owned enterprises, and 5.95% of foreign-funded enterprises). The geographical flow of graduates is highly matched with the geographical location of the university, with Northeastern University mainly flowing to Liaoning Province and Northwest University mainly flowing to Shaanxi Province.

The guaranteed research rate of 2023 undergraduate graduates is about 21% for Northeastern University and about 18% for Northwest University.

Judging from the above overall situation, Northeastern University still has obvious advantages over Northwest University.

Next, let's compare the attractiveness of the two universities to candidates.

Northeastern University or Northwestern University, which one would you choose?
Northeastern University or Northwestern University, which one would you choose?

Analysis of the admission cut-off scores of the two universities

I'm from Shandong, so let's take Shandong Province as a sample province. Shandong Province is the second batch of provinces to implement the new college entrance examination, starting from the 2017 high school students, the "3+3" college entrance examination has been implemented, and the 2020 graduates are the graduates of the first new college entrance examination. The difference between "3+3" and "3+1+2" is that the former removes the barriers of arts and sciences, while the latter divides candidates into physics and history, which is a broad line of arts and sciences. Therefore, if we analyze the admission data of Shandong Province, you will find that the majors of liberal arts and science are mixed.

1. Admission data analysis of Northeastern University

Enrollment plan: 213 people

Enrollment majors: 21

Admission data: The top 10 majors with the highest enthusiasm of candidates in Shandong Province are computer science (computer science and technology, Internet of things engineering) 634 points, artificial intelligence 629 points, electronic information (electronic information engineering, communication engineering) 628 points, robotics engineering 627 points, computer (software engineering, information security, digital media technology) 627 points, automation (automation, electrical engineering and automation, measurement and control technology and instruments, electronic science and technology, industrial intelligence) 626 points, 621 points in Intelligent Manufacturing Engineering, 620 points in Mathematics (Mathematics and Applied Mathematics, Information and Computing Science), 619 points in Intelligent Medical Engineering, and 616 points in Applied Physics.

After calculation, the average minimum score of these 10 majors in the province is 624.7 points, which is 104.7 points higher than the special recruitment line (520 points) of Shandong Province in the current year, and the average minimum admission rank in the province is 11633.1.

The six majors with less enthusiasm for candidates in Shandong Province are materials (materials science and engineering, materials forming and control engineering, materials physics) with 609 points, economic management experimental class (business administration, marketing, accounting, industrial engineering, information management and information systems, international economics and trade, finance, economics) with 609 points, chemistry (chemistry, applied chemistry) with 609 points, intelligent mining engineering with 605 points, and architecture (architecture, urban and rural planning) with 603 points. 588 points in Foreign Chinese Literature and Literature.

After calculation, the average minimum score of the 21 majors offered by Northeastern University in Shandong Province is 615.7 points, which is 95.7 points beyond the special admission line (520 points), and the average minimum admission rank in the province is 15928.5.

Northeastern University or Northwestern University, which one would you choose?
Northeastern University or Northwestern University, which one would you choose?

2. Admission data analysis of Northwestern University

Enrollment plan: 103 people

Enrollment majors: 27

Admission data: The top 11 majors with the highest enthusiasm of candidates in Shandong Province are also the majors with the lowest score of 605 points or more in the province, which are 623 points in stomatology, 618 points in computer science, 617 points in archaeology, 616 points in law, 616 points in economics, 615 points in electronic information, 613 points in history, 612 points in mathematics, 609 points in physics, 605 points in chemistry, and 605 points in chemistry (national training base for top-notch students in basic disciplines).

After calculation, the average minimum score in the province for these 10 majors is 613.5 points, 93.5 points beyond the special recruitment line (520 points), and the average minimum admission rank in the province is 16541.

The minimum admission score of the province is less than 600 points: 599 points in geographical science, 599 points in geology, 598 points in chemical engineering and pharmacy, 598 points in process equipment and control engineering, 597 points in philosophy, 596 points in food science and engineering, 595 points in library, information and archives management, 593 points in geology, 590 points in management science and engineering, 590 points in foreign Chinese literature, and 583 points in electronic information science and technology (Sino-foreign cooperative education).

After calculation, the average minimum score of the 27 majors offered by Northwest University in Shandong Province is 603.5 points, which is 83.5 points beyond the special recruitment line (520 points), and the average minimum admission rank in the province is 22413.9.

Northeastern University or Northwestern University, which one would you choose?
Northeastern University or Northwestern University, which one would you choose?

Mr. Matsuko has something to say

From the perspective of the admission score line, Northeastern University is about 12 points higher than Northwest University, reflecting the difference between 985 and 211. However, this does not mean that you must choose Northeastern University. With the same college entrance examination score, if you apply for Northeastern University, you need to see if the major you can apply for is the major you like, or the major with good employment prospects.

If you can apply for the popular majors of Northeastern University, you must choose Northeastern University, there is no controversy about this, after all, the platform of 985 is higher than the platform of 211. If you can't apply for the popular majors of Northeastern University, but can apply for the popular majors of Northwest University, then choose Northwest University, and you can't apply for an unpopular major for the gimmick of 985, which will make your future very embarrassing.

Therefore, which university to apply for, you need to comprehensively consider your future career planning, hobbies, college entrance examination results and other factors.