Hao Lei was drunk: Because, my father and my mother, that cruelty you can't imagine, really, you ask me casually.
Xu Zhiyuan interrupted: We are almost enough, enough.
Hao Lei insisted: I want to say some details, Lao Xu
Xu Zhiyuan responded with a smile: We talk privately.
Scrolling out of the subtitles, the 8th issue of "Thirteen Invitations" ended here, leaving a huge gap.
It's a lot of excitement, but it's known that there won't be another episode.
"Thirteen Invitations" is a talk show that I have always liked to chase, in the 8th episode of the fifth season, Xu Zhiyuan talked to Hao Lei, and this episode was praised by many netizens as an episode of Fengshen.
In the end, Hao Lei should have drunk some wine, let go of a lot of precautions, and the two chatted very well, so I wanted to talk more about the pain in my heart.
So, with the classic dialogue above.
This classic dialogue can be seen in Xu Zhiyuan's persistence in doing the media, and there must also be a bottom line when it comes to it.
If it is other media people, when they hear that the guests want to say more unknown details, it is estimated that they are ecstatic, because they can satisfy the audience's voyeuristic desires, but Xu Zhiyuan replied to the first sentence: We are almost enough, enough.
Xu Zhiyuan was a little too "uninteresting", Hao Lei wanted to say, but he did not let the other party say.
Hao Lei met a confidant, so directly said I want to say some details.
Xu Zhiyuan's response this time was very simple: We talked privately.
At this time, Hao Lei is very emotional, soft and fragile, but Xu Zhiyuan is very gentle at this time, protecting the privacy of the other party.
Someone in the barrage responded: Xu Zhiyuan's literacy came out, awesome!
However, such a comment could not be satisfactory, and I always wanted to find a very literary and even very literary word to express praise to Xu Zhiyuan.
Until he saw such a big truth: he knew that it was dangerous for his private life to be exposed to the camera, and he protected her when she decided to hurt herself.
01
The first time I knew Xu Zhiyuan's name was because of the magazine "One Way Street", which was later renamed "Single Reading".
In this magazine, you can feel the thinking about the present, the past and the future, but with Xu Zhiyuan into the video era "Thirteen Invitations".
But that feeling remains the same: deep, complex, and multi-layered, always exploring people or things with curiosity.
Xu Zhiyuan said: It seems that there is a glass door in the middle of us, I tried to push it, and then I did not push it open.
Of course, there's a more important sentence that follows: "Then I found out I didn't have to push it away." ”
This is also the characteristic of Xu Zhiyuan's interview, which may be related to the original intention of the intellectuals he has always adhered to.
There are some things he wants to know, to get answers from the interviewer, and if he really doesn't get it, it doesn't hurt, it doesn't hinder his curiosity, then don't explore it.
Therefore, compared with those exquisite interview programs, this kind of arbitrariness and no standard makes many viewers a little unaccustomed, but it is expensive in the truth.
Everything is constantly exploring, so often when a topic does not work, there are cold or embarrassing moments in the interview process.
I like this program, after all, sometimes there is no need to be too deliberate, otherwise the traces are too heavy, and it will not reach the spirit of true exploration.
Then it becomes a kind of superficial entertainment program, and there is less of the original intention of the real program: to see the world with prejudice.
Through the interview outline, to understand a person step by step, you can fully understand the bias, and if you can't reach the resonance with the interviewee, you will be less deep and superficial.
This time interview with Hao Lei is the same, only to be able to see that he is not familiar with Hao Lei, when everyone privately talked about the discussion, did not know that Hao Lei sang.
However, this issue of the interview is still a bit interesting, it can be seen that Xu Zhiyuan met an opponent, he did not ask much questions, but was asked a lot.
With the frequent exchanges, from the ideological level, Hao Lei's ideological precipitation has made many netizens look sideways.
When Hao Lei asked Xu Zhiyuan what pain was, Xu Zhiyuan paused for a moment and did not explain well.
Finally he said that he himself did not have much pain to speak of.
Xu Zhiyuan explained it this way: Although I always say that I am looking for profoundness, I still live on the surface of life.
Seeing such an explanation, does it mean that for many people, they are living on the surface of life, and as for what is in the inner layer, it seems that I don't know.
The lack of an opportunity to be pulled into the bottom of life, or something else, everything depends on the individual.
Perhaps to say this will make people feel unsound and ignorant, but for individuals, ignorance should be the background, otherwise it will become an all-knowing and all-powerful God, and the meaning of living must be considered why.
Therefore, this kind of Xu Zhiyuan is still very fond of, biased, curious, ignorant, or the momentum of always walking on the road of exploration.
02
I really know that Hao Lei is through an entertainment program "I am an actor", which has to be said to be a small irony.
During the brainstorming session of the film crew, one of them said that other female stars played everyone with their own appearance, but Hao Lei's method was to eliminate herself and play who was who, so it was reasonable not to be remembered.
Now that I think about it, it seems that this is also the case, as a moviegoer, watching movies is not countless, there are many, remember many female stars, but do not remember Hao Lei' number of people.
And this interview, but let me have a deeper feeling for Hao Lei, if you use a sentence to explain: an excellent actor with deep ideological depth and heritage.
In the show "I Am an Actor", Hao Lei can get to the point and dare to say and dare to do it, for example, in one issue, Wang Zijian acted by himself while arranging the action routes of Li Sheng and Sun Jian and guiding others how to perform, leaving others at a loss.
Hao Lei said to Wang Zijian: Everyone is not your assistant, everyone is a player.
It's just that at that time, Wang Zijian didn't realize the problem, and the result was no accident.
In "I Am an Actor", it is only the scope of work, so the cognition of Hao Lei is still superficial, thinking that her acting skills are very strong, and her personality is more straightforward, and there are no other superfluous ideas.
Her understanding still seems superficial.
This is also the charm of a talk show, if the show is good enough, it can fill the participants with the style and connotation of showing themselves.
Why some netizens say that this episode is a god, in addition to Xu Zhiyuan's rejection and protection in the last paragraph, there is also an important point that the audience is also impressed by Hao Lei's self-perception and views on people and things.
And in the conversation, the performance is also very good, unpretentious, very able to let go, of course, in the end belongs to the most open.
Of course, what is more important is to let people see that she has a feeling of equal strength in the face of Xu Zhiyuan's accumulation of knowledge.
If Hao Lei usually did not read less and did not think less about life, it is estimated that no one will believe it.
Only by reading enough books, achieving life experience, and constantly reflecting on the self, that is, Hao Lei's own awareness, can we reach a high and profound realm.
Such a realm, I am still far from reaching, can only sigh as Xu Zhiyuan still lives on the surface of life.
Of course, Xu Zhiyuan's so-called life surface is already deep enough, and most people estimate that they are floating on the surface, rather than living on the surface.
The last ten minutes of the show is high energy, it is estimated that it is rare to meet a confidant who can open his heart, Hao Lei shows his fragile side, but let people realize a new her.
When xu zhiyuan is directly called lao Xu, he actually intends to speak freely, but such an opening may be a danger to the future of the actor.
Xu Zhiyuan, who knows human nature well, will score a full score at this time, directly refuse to show in public, and it is better to communicate privately.
The cat who liked this episode very calmly watched the two talk and was silent.
If you can learn to look at it like a cat, maybe it's another kind of happiness, but in this era of habitual vocalization, the era of entertainment without a bottom line, it is too difficult.
Hao Lei said that many years ago her wish was to become a particularly good actor, and she did.
Although not a traffic star, for this entertainment industry, it seems that the topic and traffic are not on her, I believe that one day, excellent actors will eventually be the mainstream, traffic and topics are only a fork in the road of the times.
What is this opportunity? Xu Zhiyuan asked Hao Lei a good question, which is also a good question in the entertainment industry.
It's just that no one knows how long this fork in the road will last.
Watching "Thirteen Invitations" can also feel that Xu Zhiyuan is out of step with the times, always with a state of wandering, trying to pursue something that once existed, such as the universal curiosity of the 80s, what the essence of an era should be.
But it is also this kind of incompatibility that makes this show rare and valuable.