People magazine loves Guo Degang and interviewed him again in 2017, this time, Guo Degang still talks about the past, does not shy away, talks about the past, talks about peers, and talks about those apprentices who have left.
Do not dare to plunder the beauty of people, this text is actually "People" Ms. Xie Mengyao's text modified on the basis of the text, thank you again. The images used are from Yin Xiyuan and Wang Pan.
Guo Degang has always said that he is a traditional person, a folk cross-talk idle artist. The reason for the tradition lies in attaching importance to the rules, and respecting the rules, and in the form of the ancient class society, the traditional art of cross-talk is awakened and revitalized in the present.
His tradition is also reflected in the fact that he attaches great importance to the traditional form of master-apprentice transmission, but he does not stick to the traditional dead rules, but combines the form of contemporary cultural media companies to modify some traditional bad habits, so that the traditional rules can be suitable for modern communication habits, and will not fall into the whirlpool of public opinion. For example, when he and Yu Qian, Li Jing, Gao Feng, and other worshippers Jin Wensheng, they prostrated their heads, but when he accepted the disciple, he canceled the kneeling and only asked the disciple to bow and thank him.
You can find a lot of old traditions in Guo Degang, and you can also find some contemporary new things, he is such a contradictory person: the people who love him love to death, and the people who hate him want to kill him. Whether you love or hate depends on where you stand and on your attitude towards traditional culture.
But if you want to correctly understand Guo Degang, you must look at his offstage life outside of his stage performance, because only in this way can you understand a complete Guo Degang and say the reasons why you love and hate. Guo Degang on the stage is seen a lot, brazen, wanton, devoted, and obedient; but is Guo Degang on the stage also like this? Through the description of the "People" reporter, you will find that Guo Degang in life is soft and soft: easy-going and polite to strangers.
1. Apprentice - Child apprentice
As long as this topic is brought up, it will always be unusually heavy, and even some people are reluctant to mention it in front of Guo Degang, because it will inevitably involve some past, involve some injuries, and involve some life-and-death struggles; in the hearts of Guo Degang and "Tightrope", there is a list of "traitors": the former apprentices finally became talented under the teacher's painstaking teaching, but in the blink of an eye, they betrayed the teacher and hurt the teacher. Guo Degang seems reluctant to call them "traitors," preferring to use the word "outcasts" to address these people.
For a poor boy from a poor rural area, growing up to be a "horn" in the cross-talk gate is a long, difficult and cruel process. Because Guo Degang came this way, he had a pain in his skin and a profound experience; it was precisely because he had experienced such pain that he had a deeper affection for those disciples who followed him in the mud, most of whom were from poor backgrounds, Zhao Yunxia was once a bather, and Kong Yunlong and Yue Yunpeng were the doormen and delivery staff of the Sea Bowl Noodle Restaurant.
Of course, the apprentices after 2006 are slightly different, because at this time, the Deyun Society is already a little famous, and if you want to become a student of the Deyun Social Science Class, you must take the exam; since there is an exam, you have to face fierce competition.
Dai Jiu'an, the second batch of students in the "Nine Character Section", recalled that when the 2010 enrollment was held, there were more than 200 people who took the exam, and these more than 200 people were selected from thousands of applicants, and only more than 60 people could stay after passing the exam. These more than 60 people are taught in classes, once a week, and eliminated every month. "The first time there were more than 60, the second time more than 50, the third time more than 40." The elimination system is somewhat cruel, and the attrition continues to occur, "there are fewer and fewer people, so the third and fourth batches are recruited, so many people are replenished, and they are re-divided." ”
Guo Degang's apprentices in 2002 were all taught by hand, but after 2006, with the expansion of the enrollment scale of Deyun Society, these newly recruited students did not live at home, and Guo Degang no longer taught by hand, but Deyun Society arranged the best actors to lead the class; for example, GaoFeng had teaching tasks every week, basically 19 classes per week; Luan Yunping would also take classes, and Dai Jiuan would follow Luan Yunping to learn. What kind of relationship is there between the trainees and the Deyun Society at this time? At this time, the relationship between the two is relatively loose, the trainees are not the people of the Deyun Society, the Deyun Society does not care about eating and living, nor does it charge tuition, the only money collected is more than 1,000 yuan of material fees, printed with "Reporting the Name of the Dish", "Qua Residence" and other basic mouths. Dai Jiuan said: "It is a few pieces of A4 paper, not to ask for money for money, but to encourage you, you pay some money, you yourself will be concerned." ”
Many trainees come from other places, "I really came here by train, went to the last two hours, took the train back to the northeast, and took the train back to Henan." "If you are willing to survive in Beijing, rent your own house, find a job, and go to the Tianqiao Theater at night to listen to life." After listening to the work, to help the theater clean, this is another time to test human nature, some people are discouraged because they are lazy, and some people are discouraged because they only actively work when the teacher appears. It is customary to help the theater clean, mainly to examine a person's character, Yue Yunpeng, Yan Hexiang and others have cleaned the theater. If you're lazy, I'm sorry, go.
In 2006, the first batch of students in the open enrollment of deyun society, by this time Guo Degang had become famous. Yan Hexiang and Liu Hechun were the first batch of students, the difference is that Yan Hexiang is a Beijinger and does not have to take a train to run back and forth; Liu Hechun was studying at a university in Shandong at the time, and he felt that it was too difficult to run at both ends, so he simply did not return to Shandong much, so he found a security job in Beijing. Later, he also worked part-time as a night room attendant and a telecom toll collector. In order to collect the telephone bill, he ran a lot of places, "the most tired is to collect the telephone bill, the farthest to Shunyi, a day, give a bus card to go there, charge a phone bill of one or two hundred yuan and come back; run everywhere." ”
Accommodation was also not easy, going around. Initially lived in a relative's house, then lived in a security dormitory, and then rented a basement for 400 yuan a month. "Then I ran out of money, and I don't know how to get by." The master said to come to the garden, and saved the people with one word. Moving to the Tianqiao Theater, eating and living, is equivalent to the waiter, see the sky fixed down to work, and give 500 yuan a month to live. "It seems that it is also a happy thing to be able to live in the garden."
It is much better to live in the theater than in the basement, but it is not comfortable, and the place to sleep is not fixed. Sometimes I would make a quilt roll on the backstage floor, and the next morning I would roll it up and find a place where no one would put the quilt rolls down; one year, the Deyun Society made a lot of mooncakes, piled them on the second floor of the theater, and at night she laid out the boxes as beds.
In deyun society, there is a rule, skilled and performed more than 30 cross-talk, only qualified to lead the performance, generally it takes two or three years; only if you are skilled in more than 50 cross-talk, you have the opportunity to take the stage; generally students rarely have the opportunity to take the stage, even if there is no stage (that is, performance fee). This is not a new rule created by Guo Degang, but follows the old tradition of the cross-talk class: three years of apprenticeship and two years of service, artificially lengthening and denying the road of accelerated learning, which is also a kind of tempering and choice. Opportunities are reserved only for those who persevere to the end; those who persist to the end often have extraordinary perseverance and qualities. In Guo Degang's view, quality is more important than talent.
According to the traditional rules, after holding the ceremony of knowing, it is considered a strict sense of worship; but the trainees who pass the inspection can obtain the stage name given by Guo Degang, and they can be called Guo Degang Master. New students who have just arrived will not be able to give words, but can only call Guo Degang "Teacher Guo". Since Guo Degang became famous in 2005, there have been many affairs, so whether it is a student or an apprentice, it is not easy to see the "Teacher Guo" side. According to the rules of the cross-talk industry, the three festivals and two birthdays are to meet the master and the master, so Guo Degang's birthday party is an opportunity to meet "Teacher Guo", but the number of places is limited, not all apprentices and students can rush to anyone can go. Also, to participate in Master's birthday party, you must give gifts to Master, the value of the gift is not important, the key is to show the intention.
As for the seats of the disciples, they are arranged according to the order in which they are given. A few days after the "Crane Character Section" began, Guo Degang gave this group of students a stage name; Liu Hechun ranked first, because of his down-to-earth diligence and outstanding business, he won Guo Degang's approval. But he was not the first among these students to give a word, the first to give a word was Guo Heming.
Guo Heming is a retired soldier who speaks urns and urns, obsessed with storytelling, and plays the three strings very well, and even Mr. Zhang Wenshun, the elder of the Deyun Society, also attaches great importance to him. Liu Hechun recalled: "Master said to call him Guo Heming, (Master) was the first to give him this word, so he was in front of us." In 2006, Guo Degang took Mr. Jin Wensheng to Beijing and arranged for Guo Heming to take care of him for half a year; this is a beautiful difference and a heavy responsibility.
More than two years have passed since the disciple who was given a name out of the ordinary has bid farewell to the Deyun Society; it seems to be a peaceful breakup from the outside world, which is completely different from the resentment caused by Cao and He's two apprentices leaving the Deyun Society. In an interview with Guo Heming in People magazine at the end of August 2016, he said that he was still grateful for the master-apprentice relationship, "Which father is the master's father?" Now good multimedia does not pay attention to this, write a single person that 'Fu', modify the car, blindly write. I was his apprentice, and that was my father. ”
Unexpectedly, a few days after interviewing Guo Heming, the family tree of the Deyun Society was released, mentioning that Guo Heming only had a short sentence, and the audience was shocked: "The means of deceiving the teacher and destroying the ancestors are despicable, and the division is eliminated." ”
In the past two years, some things have happened to the apprentices of the Deyun Society: Liu Hechun has ended his one-year monastic life and returned to the Deyun Society; Zhao Yunxia, who had defected to Yunxuan two years ago, has returned and publicly reprimanded his partner Dai Jiu'an, who went with him, as a "traitor who stole information"...
Photo by Yin Xiyuan
genealogy
Guo Degang has said why the family tree is published, that is, like a certificate, to determine certain things. Kong Yunlong said that Master Guo Degang first thought about making a family tree when he was just enrolling students in the Crane Character Department, "It's quite complicated, not that it's not that you can take a piece of paper and publish a booklet." To investigate. "Xiangsheng attaches importance to generations and inheritance, Xihemen and Kuaishumen are in the qu art system, each has its own branches, there is an intersection between the three, if you want to repair the family tree must not be sloppy; many things in the circle, only the circle knows, "You have to write blindly, when people scold the street, you give people the ancestors to others." This led to an extension of the preparation period; Guo Degang took advantage of the opportunity to perform in various places to collect relevant information. For example, in 2012, when Guo Degang went to the United States to perform, he paid a special visit to Wu Zhaonan, a Taiwanese cross-talk master who lives in Los Angeles; the old man is nearly ninety years old, is Hou Baolin's apprentice, and is Guo Degang's uncle in his generation. Kong Yunlong said, "Go to their house and listen to the old man talk about these things." What you listened to (before), and what the old gentleman preached, did not match the symbols. Master went outside to ask, and after asking, he went to communicate with Them. Gao Feng took notes and handed them to Liu Heying. Liu Heying went to typeset and stored this thing in the database. So many years a little bit of collection. ”
This collection is ten years of hard work. Some things that seem simple, the reality is very complicated. For example, if you trace back to the roots, Zheng Hao's generation is one generation higher than Guo Degang's, but the two are called peers to the outside world; this is because Zheng Hao is from the northeast side, and his master entered the customs in the early years, when xiangsheng was lined with mountains, considering the relationship with his peers, Zheng Hao's master demoted himself to a generation. Kong Yunlong explained: "Because your generation is too big, this is not a particularly faceless thing, then there is no way, the artist mixed food, after going there you are still the eldest generation, people will definitely not agree." "Although these traces can be followed and clarified, they still can't rush to write into the family tree, and they must also say hello to the human family." There is a Deyun Society branch in Harbin, and when Guo Degang went to the performance, he found Zheng Hao's master to explain the situation. Kong Yunlong said, "We are just like this, and the descending generation may not be mentioned, but don't be picky." ”
There is also a special situation, that is, someone brings an art caster, which involves "jumping the door", which is a taboo in the cross-talk circle, which also needs to be notified with the previous master, and can only be approved.
Bottom line: All caution, all authenticity, is all about respecting tradition. Of course, since the cross-talk industry is a tradition, there are naturally many rules: sons cannot worship their fathers as teachers; backstage is strictly forbidden for outsiders to enter, and family members are no exception; they must wear white socks on stage; they cannot bring wine (drinking) to the stage; they must greet each other first when watching peer performances; they must pay attention to generational divisions, and the elderly and young are orderly...
Since the Deyun Society attaches great importance to tradition, these rules are clearly hung in the background, and whoever violates the rules will be punished. Kong Yunlong once led a team to perform in other places, and when he ate, the master and disciple of the 19-character section sat down first without waiting for the brother to enter the seat, and there was a lack of etiquette when speaking; Kong Yunlong said: "After returning to Beijing, I got him a youth team and left, and I didn't understand the rules at all." Since 2004, the Deyun Society has erected the tablet of the grandmaster Dongfang Shuo in the backstage of the Tianqiao Headquarters, and once the youth team took the turn to perform on the Tianqiao, and did not change the gongguo before the shrine in time, Guo Degang ordered the deduction of Guo Qilin's on-the-spot performance fee.
Even at the Spring Festival Gala, Guo Degang insisted on wearing a coat according to tradition, and the stage table was embroidered with silver dragons with white handkerchiefs, fans and waking wood. No matter how many new jokes and plots are added to the old live renovation strips, they are also titled with the name of the traditional strips and follow their framework. Xiangsheng four homework said to learn to sing, "sing" a lot of singing Peking Opera, commentary, zizi, is not singing songs, is singing the ancient Taiping lyrics, but singing this, and easy to cold, but he always sings a paragraph when performing; the things of the ancestors can not be lost.
Genealogy, which is also the most important part of tradition, naturally must also be followed according to tradition. Therefore, after ten years of preparation, on the occasion of the 20th anniversary of the Deyun Society, it was finally open to the public; the significance of the public family tree was to inform the world of personnel rewards and punishments. Of course, the public is not very concerned about the intricate lineage, and they are most concerned about the evaluation of different characters, especially those who have left the Deyun Society.
The family tree shows that five people were expelled from the door wall, except for the familiar Cao and He people, Guo Heming and the other three people were all surprised; of course, dai Jiu'an was not mentioned in the family tree, because he had not yet known, and he was not yet an apprentice of the Eight Classics of Zheng'er). The treatment of the two people who returned before and after the foot was different: Zhao Yunxia was picked up and viewed, and Liu Hechun was still at the forefront of the Crane Character Section; because the reasons for the two people's departure were different, Liu Hechun was ordained in Tibet in 2015 due to personal emotional entanglement, which did not constitute a big mistake, and immediately went to the master's house after returning to Beijing to thank him, Guo Degang immediately decided that in a few weeks, the commercial performance of the Beizhan Theater, together with his partner Yu Qian and his apprentice, said a paragraph of "Pickpocketing Horse Coat"; Zhao Yunxia was seduced into running to Tingyunxuan, "a few in and a few outs quite a lot".
In Guo Degang's thought, all this is basically in accordance with traditional rules, which is actually a moral allegory. The "perfidious" will eventually be condemned and nailed to the pillar of shame; the "lost and returned" will be treated with leniency. At the same time, the genealogy is not set in stone; that is, the existing assessment can change at any time according to the individual's consistent performance.
Of course, everything is not perfect, some things can be said and can be told to the world, and some things can only be vague, can not be said, can not be mentioned. For example, Zhang Dewu and Xie Tianshun are not in the family tree, but these two were once important actors in the Deyun Society, Zhang Dewu has passed away, and Xie Tianshun is recuperating from illness, which does not constitute a reason for omission. Of course, it may be to show solemnity, in order to reflect the tradition, the family tree is arranged in traditional vertical print, and the result is full of a large number of typos caused by the conversion of traditional and simple. But these doubts are not enough to challenge the authority of the family tree, and what really set off a monstrous wave was Cao Jinjian's subsequent 6,000-word long article, tearing guo Degang and counting Guo Degang's seven deadly sins; this was the first time that Cao Jin had listed a large number of details after leaving the Deyun Society.
Cao Jin's actions surprised everyone, including his eldest apprentice, Liu Lianxi, who had been kept in the dark. Even the "internal adultery incident" between Zhao Yunxia and Dai Jiu'an in July did not make Cao Jin say anything, in fact, everyone knows that behind the contradiction between Zhao Yunxia and Dai Jiu'an, in fact, the accusation is to take in Zhao Yunxuan and Dai; this is the Xiangsheng Class that Cao Jin founded a year before leaving the Deyun Society, which undoubtedly puts Cao Jin in a moral disadvantage - following the master to learn skills, and turning back to grab business with the master. Dai Jiu'an later said to "People": "It is I who smears, and it is Cao Yunjin who influences Cao Yunjin. Kill two birds with one stone. ”
What makes everyone feel incredible is that after the "internal rape incident" was exposed, it was reversed and then reversed: Dai Jiuan secretly recorded a telephone conversation with Zhao Yunxia, and chose to make it public when public opinion was unfavorable to him, indicating that Zhao had framed himself after collecting 20,000 yuan from Deyun Society. Zhao later argued to "People" that the phone was only to appease Dai Jiu'an, and he could not imagine that he had fallen into the "trap", but he admitted that the so-called "internal treachery theory" was "the same as the burden of creating cross-talk, which comes from life and is higher than life." Fortunately, this storm passed quickly and did not have much impact on the Deyun Society, after all, neither of them was a big name in the cross-talk industry. Dai Jiuan also sighed: "There is no right to speak, people speak softly." At that time, Dai had persuaded Cao Jin to come out and respond, but Dai refused: "I didn't say anything about me, but I mainly talked about you." Dai was rather helpless.
Guo Degang's publication of the family tree completely angered Cao Jin, and in his opinion, this time, unlike the past insinuations, was an unbearable serious accusation: "The two people who once used the cloud character stage name deceived the heavens and destroyed the ancestors and rebelled against human morality, betrayed the teacher in times of difficulties, and slandered the intention of being vicious, as if this incorruptibility and shame were heinous, and for the sake of police service, they took back their stage names and expelled them from the division." This passage nailed him directly to the moral column of shame, making it impossible for him to look up.
On November 4, 2006, during a performance at The Deyun Society in Beijing, Guo Degang (second from right) and Yu Qian (first from left) cross-phrase Wang Pan in the background
On November 3, 2006, backstage of the Beijing Deyun Society performance, He Yunwei (left) changed the long shirt of Guo Degang between performances and Wang Pan was photographed
Big Parents
Cao Jin's 6,000-length essay on tearing up Guo Degang is roughly divided into four aspects: recalling the art of worshiping teachers, withdrawing from the CCTV competition, filming and scoring, and Guo Degang's scolding war with others; restoring the "betrayal" incident of that year; releasing Guo Degang's black material; and explaining the origin of the word "cloud". For learning art from teachers, Cao Jin said that he paid tuition fees and suffered all kinds of unfair treatment when learning art. For this section of learning art, Zhang Yunlei added another side of this story in an interview with "People": In 2001, Wang Hui's cousin Zhang Yunlei was 9 years old, and he came to Guo Degang's home to learn art with Guo Degang. This is an old-fashioned cultivation method, the apprentice grew up eating and living under the same roof as the master, and is a disciple. Later, Guo Degang's family had several such apprentices, so that in the next few years, several children of about the same size got up early in the morning and followed Master to the river to shout, "After coming back, light a cigarette for him, brew the tea, and then he will sit on the sofa" and tell several children about work. Of course, there are other chores, such as Guo Degang's preference for burning incense at home, and the work of lighting incense is generally given to the youngest apprentice. Zhang Yunlei has fully adapted to and integrated into this old-school style, and has left traces: "People after 90 go out to drink drinks, I will always carry a tea jar, tea does not leave my hand." ”
In fact, at that time, Guo Degang had not yet gained a foothold in Beijing, and it was difficult for him to make a living, plus the living expenses of these apprentices, which was not economically cost-effective. So much so that Wang Hui sold his XiaLi car to fund Guo Degang; in 2003, Guo Degang went to Anhui to participate in a program displayed in the window in order to survive, and for 4,000 yuan, he stayed in the window for a full 48 hours. Guo Degang said to "People": "It is because I love crosstalk too much. So what do you say? You have to make him admit it and learn. Guo Degang believes that only this method can teach true cross-talk artists. Or, it can also be said that he has a long-term vision, he wants to cultivate his future Deyun Society team and cultivate his own intimate people.
In addition to practicing their voices every day, these disciples recite and recite large passages of the mouth. Of course, each disciple has a focus, Zhang Yunlei specializes in Taiping lyrics, Guo Degang records each singing lyric in a repeater, and the apprentices imitate it. In fact, Zhang Yunlei quickly made great progress in small tunes and minor tunes, so that when later students learned Taiping lyrics, they basically listened to his tapes. Naturally, when these disciples were also naughty, Kong Yunlong and burnt cakes caused a lot of trouble; Zhang Yunlei had also been beaten by Guo Degang. Kong Yunlong said that he had not seen master hit other apprentices when he was angry, but when he was joking, he would punch his legs, "Come on a marijuana thunderbolt." Be very hard, and don't hide. "This is what we saw with our own eyes. Because it is a relative, there are reasons for this. "But for these children, the most terrible time is not when Master does it, but when Master ignores people, and that silence will create a special sense of oppression that makes you feel very afraid; this is probably Guo Degang's method: majesty." Many years later, Guo Qilin said that in the face of his father, he was always involuntarily afraid and sweated.
In 2006, Guo Degang rented a compound covering an area of four or five acres in Daxing, built his own house, and most of the apprentices who started early lived here with him, including Kong Yunlong, Yue Yunpeng, Burnt Cake, Du Helai, Ma Heqi, etc., who managed to eat and live. Guo Degang seemed to like the lively feeling of having apprentices at home, but he was also a quiet person; so the apprentices played in the basement billiard hall, and Guo Degang read in the study on the second floor. Of course, Guo Degang also had troublesome times; one day after getting up, everyone found that the white ball was missing. Zhao Yunxia said, "Master hid it, everyone knows it, and they didn't dare to ask, so you should pay attention to it, and it will be a while." Although Guo Degang later relocated several times, and most of the apprentices also found their own shelter, several of them have been living at home, eating at least seven or eight mouths a day. At this time, Wang Hui was always taking care of everyone, and the apprentices naturally had to help, cleaning up, burning fires and feeding the dogs; until Wang Hui was pregnant with Guo Fenyang, the family only hired a nanny. Zhao Yunxia lived in master's house for 6 years, until he got married, he moved away; when the master cooked every day, he laid down his hands, there was a small box in the kitchen, the master put the money in it, bought vegetables and used it, never had to report the account. Zhao Yunxia has fully integrated into the Guo family, and he recalled to "People" with a smile: "Guo Qilin went to the toilet, and the old one sat and sat for half an hour. Later, we used to say that when I was young, don't lose your anus when you are a teenager. However, these six years of living at home did not allow Zhao Yunxia to firmly follow Guo Degang's ideas, he still left several times, but later came back, it is estimated that Guo Degang accepted Zhao Yunxia again and again, but also related to his six years of living at home.
If the apprentices who are in the field do not go home during the Spring Festival, they generally follow the master for the New Year, the banquet is like running water, which can be opened from morning to late at night; people come one by one, some people come and go, some people come and go, some people do not leave when they come, stay in Guo Degang's house, anyway, the guest rooms are always ready for bunk beds. Among these apprentices, the ones who help the master to work in the kitchen are generally Zhao Yunxia and Li Hebiao, Zhao Yunxia and noodles, and Li Hebiao stir-frying, and these three people soak in the kitchen almost all day. Zhao Yunxia said: "When it comes to the New Year, it will be fatal, we will stand for more than ten hours a day at a station." At ten o'clock in the morning, we would get up and fry and cut it, and we could not finish the bell until the end of the night, and after the people were gone, we brushed the dishes, which was the end of the matter. ”
Guo Degang's life is to perform, teach apprentices, read books, and most of the others are taken care of by Wang Hui, the teacher's wife; Wang Hui likes to be with his apprentices, sometimes he will take a group of people out to sing, and sometimes he will take a video camera to shoot sketches and play, which Guo Degang never participates in. Which of the group of apprentices is Wang Hui's favorite? Kong Yunlong! Kong Yunlong said, "Master Niang treats me like a son and loves to chat with me. She always got angry at me and scolded me when she scolded me, but she was very kind to me. I wanted to eat fish, so my wife made me fish. I was in a car accident, and the needles in my mouth were sewn, and the teacher and mother made me egg soup all the time. In fact, Wang Hui always took Kong Yunlong shopping, of course, carrying a bag must be Kong Yunlong. It is this kind of family-like affection that makes Kong Yunlong in Guo Degang's family like he is in his own home, and he has no money to ask for his master, as little as three or four thousand, as much as twenty or thirty thousand, "1,000 yuan is worth the wrong thing to ask for." As for what time to pay back, or not yet, it doesn't matter. Of course, not all apprentices have this privilege, and only these extremely close resident apprentices have super high treatment. An apprentice who had already left the Deyun Society said, "These brothers and sisters of the master are unashamedly asking my master to borrow money, why are you on what?" People have money from others, so why lend it to you? "It's hated.
For apprentices, Guo Degang often said that this was a son, which made many listeners resist; like Zhao Yunxia, Li Hebiao, etc., were born in the 70s, only a few years younger than Guo Degang, it seems inappropriate to call him a son; but for these apprentices, he is indeed the big patriarch who takes care of everyone's food and clothing, beyond the general sense of the master's duties. Even, in the early days, he followed the apprentices around him to get married, and Guo Degang would arrange the wedding. These have gone beyond the rules of crosstalk. Guo Degang said: "It is not easy for children. Can't you be nicer to him? Almost every one of them I managed in this way, took his parents over, let the children be beautiful, and advised them to live a good life. "What did Guo Degang do?" From wedding photos to rings, from household appliances, sheets and quilt covers to wedding banquets, from wedding cars to makeup artists, he is responsible for everything he can be responsible for. Li Yunjie recalled the wedding in 2008: "When I got married, He Yunwei and Cao Yunjin presided over the marriage, Teacher Yu Qian testified to the marriage, and Master stood on the stage with my daughter-in-law and his parents on behalf of my parents. Li Yunjie's father died early, his mother was paralyzed, and Guo Degang took care of everything like his father. After the birth of Li Yunjie's son, Guo Degang gave him a gold bar; Li Yunjie's mother died, and Guo Degang and all the members of the Deyun Society came to worship, a pair of actors and a large flower basket, and the courtyard could not be placed. Younger brother Li Hedong lacked discipline and was stubborn and aggressive, and Guo Degang came up with an idea: "Call me Daddy Gan, go to the Deyun Society to learn cross-talk, I look at him, save yourself the need to go out and fight." "Li Hedong is just a social youth, and he was accepted to see if he could serve his mother who was paralyzed in bed for ten years." In 2007, Yue Yunpeng's mother had to do heart bypass surgery, Guo Degang contacted the hospital not to say, but also invested more than 100,000 yuan; the Yue family wanted to build a house, and Guo Degang also paid for it. Zhao Yunxia said that Master had said to him many times, "I will take care of you for the rest of your life." However, Zhao Yunxia ran away from the Deyun Society, because he quarreled with Shi Niang: in Chinese New Year's Eve 2013, Zhao Yunxia and his wife divorced, and Shi Niang couldn't see it, so she reprimanded: "Just married, how do you say leave." Therefore, an angry Zhao Yunxia drove away; later he admitted that he was an, but he was also aggrieved: Some things are only understood by the parties in their hearts, and they are not clearly explained.
Guo Degang is so traditional and so benevolent; naturally, when an apprentice gets married and has children, the right to name the child is taken over by Guo Degang. The child's big name Guo Degang will make a list, about 10, can be selected, the small name Guo Degang directly has the final say: Luan Yunping's daughter is called "big pot", Li Yunjie's son is called "big plate", Yue Yunpeng's daughter is called "big bowl", all belong to the kitchen guys, according to this, Guo Degang should be "big pot", a series.
Even if there is privacy between the real father and son, there seems to be no privacy between Guo Degang and the apprentice. Sun Yue said: "Catch who flips through whose mobile phone." What is the password? Where did this photo come from? Who? Fault, but gossip. It seems that this is the model of Guo Degang and his apprentices getting along, being frank and frank.
On January 9, 2010, backstage at the Shanghai Grand Stage, Guo Degang filmed a photo of Wang Pan between performances
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Many people compare Zhao Benshan and Guo Degang, saying that in Quyijianghu, the Benshan Group and the Deyun Society are two big mountains, and these two people have many apprentices, and they can be regarded as grandmaster-level figures. However, in Guo Degang's view, he and Zhao Benshan have great differences, for example, in terms of receiving apprentices, there is a big difference: Zhao Benshan's apprentices are either the famous two-person theater "tai pillar" or a potential newcomer who is alive and well; and Guo Degang's apprentices, most of them are a blank piece of paper when they start, and then they are taught by Guo Degang and a few senior people from deyun Society, and occasionally there are very few people with art teachers, who are also unknown people. This is the deyun society's apprenticeship: do not look at the appearance, education and figure, only to see whether you like crosstalk, how your character is, how your work on the stage is. As for whether he won the prize in the cross-talk competition, he did not mention it. In this way, it takes a lot of effort to cultivate a person like a blank piece of paper into a "horn child". This is precisely why Guo Degang was bitter about those "traitors": originally you were nothing, I trained you into a horn, and you in turn bit me. Is this a replica of the story of the modern farmer and the snake?
Of course, "traitors" are a minority after all, most of the apprentices know gratitude, and it is precisely because of this that everyone is very sensitive to the word "traitor", and this topic is also a forbidden area for interviews. Zhang Yunlei did not mention Cao Jin's name, and even if others mentioned it, they only used "Cao" and "He" to refer to it, Kong Yunlong did chat about Cao Jin, and the accompanying Deyun Society staff immediately requested not to write these stories into the report; Guo Degang's agent Wang Hai directly crossed out all the relevant questions in the interview outline submitted in advance.
Guo Degang talked about an unfulfilled wish many years ago, an unfinished script, "Ji Xiaotang Catching Demons". "It wasn't written in 2005, it should have been written in 1999," he said. When I was most unsatisfactory, I wrote a screenwriter for someone, and I wrote such a scene. "This play is about a small person who has gone through the fall and is pushed to the position of a god and catches a demon for the world. He said to People, "That could be myself." For this unsuccessful wish, he decided to continue to write, make a web series season by season, and let his son star. But everyone doubted whether the script, which had been written for many years and less than 10 episodes, could be picked up again, after all, Guo Degang's commercial performances were getting higher and higher, and he also hosted so many variety shows. What is Guo Degang's purpose in mentioning this? He should have a realistic reference: a small person who breaks through the boundary. After all, Guo Degang is not from a cross-talk family, he is just the son of a film policeman and a primary school teacher, he was once an outsider, and he has no connections and resources in the cross-talk industry; now these achievements have been bought by him through hard work, all the sufferings he has suffered, and all the sins of his disciples have suffered. In the words of Guo Degang: Some people have always wanted to kill me. He entered the capital three times, and only the last time he gathered his scattered non-governmental colleagues, including Zhang Wenshun and Li Jing, to establish the Beijing Cross-Talk Conference, which was renamed Deyun Society in 2003; after 10 years of tribulations, it did not improve in 2005; of course, in 2004, Hou Yaowenli excluded him from the public and accepted him as an apprentice, and he had a lot of praise, all of which were superimposed together to achieve today's Guo Degang. Even so, he said that he would always be a folk cross-talk artist, a folk idle artist. He defines himself as a "small person": a small person in the "I" character series who is lazy and slippery but not inherently bad, a small person in "On the Current Situation of Fifty Years of Crosstalk" who is sad about the degeneration of tradition but is not tolerated in the mainstream cross-talk industry. Some mainstream people say that he is too small, that is, he just looks at the world from the perspective of a civilian, and then moves this world into his cross-talk segment, teasing the world, and the world is buried with traces of his past.
In this world, there came Zhang Chengwu, a junior high school art teacher, who sat downstage to listen to Guo Degang and others talking about crosstalk, and the audience was less than 10, and Guo Degang hung on the stage: "No running under the stage!" There are 12 of us on stage, more than you do offstage, and you can't beat us! Zhang Chengwu was attracted, so he abandoned teaching and art, joined the Deyun Society, and also had the stage name Zhang Dewu. Later, Zhang Dewu left again, and the two sides also had an unpleasant quarrel. People who came and went were Wang Yuebo and Liu Yuan. For the public, they like the Deyun Society, and they like Guo Degang of the Deyun Society. Although there are storms around Guo Degang and Deyun society every once in a while, such as Wang Yang's lawsuit, secret oil drainage endorsements, hitting reporters, anti-three customs, etc., but that is just a small wave on the way of the big ship of Deyun Society to sail out to sea, and it has never affected the big ship of Deyun Society in the sea. There are almost no exceptions, so these pasts, including all the embarrassing and unreasonable pasts, become the material he hangs. Someone on Zhihu left a message saying: "In that year, a secret oil drain, the class owner from 315 (evening) smashed and hung to the end of the year to seal the box is not finished, the next year to open the box and do not forget this stem." Those who can be so righteous and bold to smash their own stains and smash them into innocence are estimated to be the class master. ”
After realizing financial freedom, this "little person" is keen to wear famous brands but always becomes the negative teaching material of fashion trends, is keen to look at the world with the eyes of small people in the paragraph, is keen on how to make the audience happy, he does not say those praise-type cross-talk, nor does he try those satirical cross-talk, he is looking for the happiness of small people, and there is never left the grass in his body.
Guo Degang rarely talked specifically about his enmity with his apprentice, and at most rubbed it into the paragraph, or wrote a few poems of compassion, which stimulated the effect of the same hatred and hatred in the light clouds and breeze. What are the new three fables? It was the farmer and the snake, Mr. Dongguo and the wolf, Guo Degang and his apprentices.
Some people say that this is culture, and Cao Jin says that this refers to Mulberry Acacia. For example, in 2010, Cao Jin drunkenly made a big birthday party, and when he returned to the performance later this day, Guo Degang sang "Weiyang Palace Chop Han Xin". His singing voice was like a cry, and the audience applauded, but the apprentices heard his inner pain, and the burnt cake (Zhu Yunfeng) listened to crying in the background. Later, Guo Degang wrote on Weibo: "Those dozens of singing words, the heart has been spewing blood. I never watched this video for years. Now idle, inadvertently clicked open. Look at the Australian spring rains, and listen to the sighs of the past. A long sigh. Mo Ren is overwhelmed by rain and dew and grass in summer, and Mo Yan is frost and snow and pine cypress holly. "The little people have a different kind of great indignation.
Guo Degang took the initiative to talk to the "People" reporter about the apprentice: "In fact, the children are still simple, that is, they have gone early, and the most important sentence is that you are far less powerful than you think." Zhao Yunxia came back 10 times and walked 20 times, and I allowed and accepted them. The real situation is far more bloody than you know. Referring to Guo Heming, he said: "He is the best hidden." No one knows. No one knows. A few of the disciples still left, angry and angry; the Deyun Society still had to open the door to the audience, and it had to continue to develop, and only by becoming stronger could it bridge all the rifts. Hope they come back? Guo Degang said that as long as they want to come back, they can come back at any time, at least that's what he said. But the way back is hard, almost everyone thinks so. Guo Degang told "People": "Some people can come back, and some people can't come back. "How much you love, how much you hate, love and hate are intertwined." This is true for Guo Degang, and it is also true for some "tightropes": how much they love Guo Degang, how much they hate those "enemies". Denouncing "traitors" has become an interactive fan experience, Cao Jin agent Wang Jingjing told "People" that this trend has intensified in the past two years, whenever Guo Degang has an innuendo, Cao Jin's Weibo will pour into a large number of insults, and it cannot be deleted cleanly. "I don't know if it's black powder or I don't know if it's a water army, so I scolded you with my head covered, as if all your efforts were in vain." Of course, once the emotions of the wire are stimulated, it is not only Cao Jin who is scolded, but even Cao Jin's apprentices are also scolded by the wire; Dai Jiuan is accused of being an "internal traitor" and has been seriously harassed on the Internet, and he only has to cancel the Weibo attention of many friends and partners. Dai Jiuan said: "They told my female customers directly, Dai introduced, how much is a night? People sent Me WeChat screenshots to show me, saying what is wrong with you? ”
Guo Degang always said that he would let the ex-defectors return the words to him, but no one really did so; Cao Jin said that his "cloud" character was given by his master Zhang Wenshun, and He Wei changed the word "cloud" to "沄" and later used the word "cloud". Guo Heming said: "When my parents said that I didn't recognize this child, turned my head and went out, and I didn't recognize him, then I couldn't change my name." I am really not filial piety. ”
In fact, Guo Degang has long found a way to deal with this problem: to give the stage name of the retiree to the new apprentice. Pan Yunxia left, and the word "Xia" was given to Zhao Yunxia; Liu Yuntian was gone, and the word "Tian" was given to Li Yuntian; Zhang Hewen was gone, and the word "Wen" was given to Zhang Hewen, but it was replaced by "Wen".
Guo Degang explained to "People": "If you don't do this, you don't need to occupy another word." You stir-fry, do you take me a word to do it? That must have left the word for others. ”
On February 17, 2015, Yue Yunpeng and Sun Yue recorded the preparation tape of the 2015 Spring Festival Gala of the Year of the Goat on CCTV
On May 4, 2017, Kong Yunlong performed "Deyun She Deyun Sanbao Special" at Shenyang Shengjing Grand Theatre
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In 2006, Deyun She registered as a media culture company, but it still operated according to a traditional class society model, and the paternalism flavor was very strong, which caused chaos in management: actors did not say hello to take on external work, program schedules were arranged arbitrarily, and infighting between actors led to some people running away. In the August 2010 incident, He Yunwei and Li Jing left, and then Guo Degang began to think about how to strengthen management, which led to the "signing of contracts": employees need to sign strict contracts, and external work needs to be reported and divided into Deyun Society according to 28; divided into multiple performance teams, giving the captain great authority; the establishment of management committees and art committees, in charge of personnel and stage performances. However, this management adjustment has not achieved immediate results, and the income of actors has not changed much. The opportunity to take on private work is almost gone, and most mature actors still maintain their attendance at 150 yuan for a certain period of time. An apprentice recalled: "At that time, the tianqiao (theater) could basically take 150, Sanlitun (theater) more than half, Huguang (theater) a small half, Zhang Yiyuan (theater), the whole army was destroyed." "In this case, many people are willing to perform at foreign branches, because the box office, salary is the whole, and two weeks of 500 yuan food subsidy." Although it is strictly forbidden to talk about income between actors, everyone tacitly agrees. Is that the old-fashioned rule? An apprentice said to "People": "I have seen all the old gentlemen tell me that who earns how much money backstage, everyone must know." In order to stimulate the actors to improve their artistic level personally. In the past, the performance was an hourly fee, this basket was put here, buy bamboo cards, I want to listen to three crosstalk today, buy three, want to listen to four, buy four. Dai Jiu'an said: "I took a month's salary at that time, two thousand four five, two thousand five six, not more than three thousand." Guo Heming said that from 2012 to 2013, his average monthly salary was 2800 yuan. After working in a unit for about seven or eight years and earning a minimum wage, are you willing? And you are facing a family, you are facing buying a house and a car. At one point, he found a job performing ritual in temple of heaven park to raise his income, and by the end of 2014, after much negotiation, Guo Degang allowed him to leave the Deyun Society. The book critic theater has a meager income, but by going to primary and secondary schools to open allegro classes and selling book review recordings online, Guo Heming has now bought a house in Beijing. He said, "If I'm going to be miserable, he won't hate me." ”
Has Deyun introduced professional managers? No. The chairman and general manager of the company are Mrs. Guo's wife, Wang Hui. Yue Yunpeng's agent, Guo Degang's brother-in-law Wang Junqin, said: "Teacher Guo and Mrs. Guo, both of them have been arrested in an all-round way. There are three or four executives at the bottom, and then there are ordinary people at the bottom. The main exercise of management authority is an apprentice named Liu Heying, in addition to the deputy general manager, he also serves as the manager of the legal department and the personnel department. Liu Heying now uses his real name Liu Jia to the outside world, because he has done management in the enterprise before, he is more capable, and he is slowly entrusted with reuse. Wang Junqin said: "Because we have a teacher-to-teacher relationship in this industry, so many things are not invited by a white-collar worker from outside, you can take care of it for me." Normal company you can't cross the level, but we can't do it here, we can still jump you over and go directly to Master, because he is my father, you can't stop me at all. On this point, Guo Degang's statement is that crosstalk has its own characteristics, and it is better to find a professional manager who does not understand the rules of crosstalk than to do it yourself.
The personnel system of the Deyun Society also has an extremely willful and sloppy side. In 2009, Sun Yue established an art club, which lost money and was not easy to practice. Yixin Society is a member unit of the Xiangsheng Alliance, he first performed with the Deyun Society in Zhengzhou, chatted with Guo and his wife and Yu Qian in the evening, and when it came to the difficulties of the Yixin Society, Guo Degang said: "Fat man, don't be so tossed, you will return to my Deyun Society. Sun Yue said, "Brother, I have no problem coming over, I still have more than a dozen division brothers in my hands." Guo Degang did not answer the call, and after a minute of awkward silence, Guo Degang spoke: "So, I can accept you all." On this night, the fate of all the members of the Yixin Society was determined, so Zhai Guoqiang, Liu Zhe and others joined the Deyun Society and became the main actors of the Deyun Society; now look at Guo Degang's decision at the beginning, it may be very wise, but at that time, it was not prudent.
Deyun Society is getting bigger and bigger, there are more than 400 people, how to distribute benefits, make everyone happy is a very difficult thing. Deyun Society once organized a business performance abroad, Zhao Yunxia handled the passport, Guo Degang persuaded him to give up the opportunity to Xie Jin, Zhao Yunxia agreed: "My master has to take care of it, don't obviously look like we are taking care of the apprentice." According to Wang Junqin, there are five or six old gentlemen in the Deyun Society, and now they can no longer take the stage, and Guo Degang sends each person 20,000 yuan a month because they once had a favor with the Deyun Society, and he is repaying the favor. Is there anything he can't take care of? Yes. Dai Jiu'an said, "I haven't said more than 20 words to my master in so many years. I dare to say that many of the Nine Characters Branch and the Xiao Zi Family are bitter children, but no one cares about them, they all rent houses by themselves. For the first three years, you wouldn't have to be given a dime, it had to be family support, and from a businessman's point of view, I felt like a kind of financing. ”
The scale is large, there must be corresponding commercial support; Deyun Society has 9 performance teams, more than 3,000 performances in small theaters in 2016, and 111 commercial performances with more than 5,000 people. Such a scale of performances has made Deyun Society more successful, and cross-talk has gradually been revived; New York, Paris, Melbourne, Vancouver, Sydney, Toronto and other places have left the footprints of Deyun Society.
Obviously, he is very profitable, but Guo Degang prefers to describe the Deyun Society as a relationship rather than a business. He said to "People": "I have no concept of money, so sometimes when I talk, who says that Guo Degang deducts whoever has money, I say that this is a loss of conscience, I really don't take money seriously." ”
Guo Degang has published an autobiography, "Just Lived", which can be seen as a fancy satirical Weibo collection, full of offense and offense. Guo Degang on the cover is smiling, and the words in the book are humorous, but there is an omnipresent jianghu atmosphere between the lines.